GameSpot: Nintendo's problem is its all about Nostalgia

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] This. That statement was f*cking stupid and you should feel bad, Matt.HAZE-Unit

I do not feel bad, so shoot me. And no just no to both those titles mentioned.

Dude, if you want to talk about bad don't mention Super Mario RPG, that game was one of the best RPGs ever created.

It's not like this is news. Nintendo cashes in on Nostalgia - they had some awesome franchises back in the 90s; they've failed to move on. Novotine

Nintendo doesn't even know how to make games in HD yet.

[QUOTE="Novotine"]It's not like this is news. Nintendo cashes in on Nostalgia - they had some awesome franchises back in the 90s; they've failed to move on. StrongBlackVine

Nintendo doesn't even know how to make games in HD yet.

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="Novotine"]It's not like this is news. Nintendo cashes in on Nostalgia - they had some awesome franchises back in the 90s; they've failed to move on. charizard1605

Nintendo doesn't even know how to make games in HD yet.

but does it have the foliage?

[spoiler] yes, yes it does

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Nintendo doesn't even know how to make games in HD yet.

StrongBlackVine

Mature games with realistic graphics good game design >>>>>>>>> cartoons with good design

Would I rather play Mass Effect(just an example) or save the princess for the 100th time.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Nintendo doesn't even know how to make games in HD yet.

StrongBlackVine

Mature games with realistic graphics good game design >>>>>>>>> cartoons with good design

Would I rather play Mass Effect(just an example) or save the princess for the 100th time.

Do all mario games relesed have a story?? or are they liked just because of the gameplay?? im kind of interested to know about this lol

finalstar2007

Save the princess.

All this nostalgia talk is stupid. Nostalgia doesnt magically make a game. The game still needs to be a great game. Any game I have looked forward to and have hyped has been based on some sort of "nostalgia". Grand Theft Auto 5 looks amazing and I want it based off of the fact that Rockstar makes good games. Does that mean GTA5 is going to be a great game only because I liked 3, Vice City, San Andreas and IV? No! 

The same goes for a game company wanting to make a new IP. Our hype is based off of the "nostalgia" of the past games the company made.

I have never played a Zelda game and thought to myself "This game is great because I liked Ocarina of Time." If Nintendo makes a bad game, as a fan of the company I would be the first to be upset about. 

It's kind of weird for me because as a kid, i never really grew up playing mario or or zelda or metroid or whatever. Donkey kong was the only nintendo franchise i really played, and I absolutely love mario games right now. I actually feel like if i had played all these mario games before, maybe i'd actually be fatigued.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Good game design>>>>F*cking HDcharizard1605

Mature games with realistic graphics good game design >>>>>>>>> cartoons with good design

Would I rather play Mass Effect(just an example) or save the princess for the 100th time.

I just think Nintendo and its games are shit. If that is ridiculous opinion on here so be it.

Do all mario games relesed have a story?? or are they liked just because of the gameplay?? im kind of interested to know about this lol

finalstar2007

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Do all mario games relesed have a story?? or are they liked just because of the gameplay?? im kind of interested to know about this lol

Peredith

Save the princess.

Why an overweight plumber saving a princess any way. And Link saves the princess to....so lame.

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Do all mario games relesed have a story?? or are they liked just because of the gameplay?? im kind of interested to know about this lol

RyanShazam

Nintendo games are so stale they are rotten.

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Do all mario games relesed have a story?? or are they liked just because of the gameplay?? im kind of interested to know about this lol

StrongBlackVine

Nintendo games are so stale they are rotten.

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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"] It's all about the gameplay. That's why people love Mario so much. Nintendo is always coming up with new ideas that make the games feel fresh even with the save the princess story being overused. RyanShazam

Nintendo games are so stale they are rotten.

I honestly could not imagine myself getting home and sitting down to play Mario. I'm sure I will buy Nintendo systems again when I have children around 5 or 6 years old.

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Nintendo games are so stale they are rotten.

StrongBlackVine

I honestly could not imagine myself getting home and sitting down to play Mario. I'm sure I will buy Nintendo systems again when I have children around 5 or 6 years old.

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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"] I'm glad I dont have your horrible taste in games.BrunoBRS

I honestly could not imagine myself getting home and sitting down to play Mario. I'm sure I will buy Nintendo systems again when I have children around 5 or 6 years old.

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Nintendo games are so stale they are rotten.

StrongBlackVine

I honestly could not imagine myself getting home and sitting down to play Mario. I'm sure I will buy Nintendo systems again when I have children around 5 or 6 years old.

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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"] I'm glad I dont have your horrible taste in games.BrunoBRS

I honestly could not imagine myself getting home and sitting down to play Mario. I'm sure I will buy Nintendo systems again when I have children around 5 or 6 years old.

Guarantee my genes are better than yours so just drop it.

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[QUOTE="RyanShazam"] I'm glad I dont have your horrible taste in games.RyanShazam

I honestly could not imagine myself getting home and sitting down to play Mario. I'm sure I will buy Nintendo systems again when I have children around 5 or 6 years old.

LOL the only way you will ever mate is if you hook up with that ugly rodent in your sig!

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

I honestly could not imagine myself getting home and sitting down to play Mario. I'm sure I will buy Nintendo systems again when I have children around 5 or 6 years old.

StrongBlackVine

Guarantee my genes are better than yours so just drop it.

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Do all mario games relesed have a story?? or are they liked just because of the gameplay?? im kind of interested to know about this lol

StrongBlackVine

Save the princess.

Why an overweight plumber saving a princess any way. And Link saves the princess to....so lame.

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="Peredith"]

Save the princess.

Microsoft1234

Why an overweight plumber saving a princess any way. And Link saves the princess to....so lame.

Nintendo, irrelevant since the Gamecube

Nintendo, irrelevant since the Gamecube

Quad4Life

Don't you mean since N64? ;)

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Nintendo, irrelevant since the Gamecube

nameless12345

Don't you mean since N64? ;)

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[QUOTE="Quad4Life"]

Nintendo, irrelevant since the Gamecube

Quad4Life

Don't you mean since N64? ;)

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Don't you mean since N64? ;)

nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Nintendo has the biggest stable of proven IPs in the world. As long as they continue to give is all new experiences, and they do, it doesn't matter what they do.Pikminmaniac

Ninitendo is more creative annd original with their old ips than their competition is with their new ips

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[QUOTE="Novotine"]It's not like this is news. Nintendo cashes in on Nostalgia - they had some awesome franchises back in the 90s; they've failed to move on. charizard1605

Nintendo doesn't even know how to make games in HD yet.

Still, Nintendo needs to start making use of ai and physics now. They didnt do that with the Wii, despite the Wiis CPU being the strongest compontant in it. They're going to have to move with the times and stop ignoring these things now.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Nintendo doesn't even know how to make games in HD yet.

HalcyonScarlet

Still, Nintendo needs to start making use of ai and physics now. They didnt do that with the Wii, despite the Wiis CPU being the strongest compontant in it. They're going to have to move with the times and stop ignoring these things now.

yet these games sell more then the competitions while being on only one platform.

nintendo keep doing what your good at

yet these games sell more then the competitions while being on only one platform.

nintendo keep doing what your good at

Mario1331

Yeah God forbid Nintendo try new thing...that don't involve gimmick controls

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yet these games sell more then the competitions while being on only one platform.

nintendo keep doing what your good at

StrongBlackVine

Yeah God forbid Nintendo try new thing...that don't involve gimmick controls

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Good game design>>>>F*cking HDArticuno76

Still, Nintendo needs to start making use of ai and physics now. They didnt do that with the Wii, despite the Wiis CPU being the strongest compontant in it. They're going to have to move with the times and stop ignoring these things now.

With ai, sure baby steps, in time hopefully they'll find clever ways to use it.

But i'm fairly surprised Nintendo haven't made extensive use of physics. Physics can make for some really fun and interesting gameplay in all types of games.

One of the few games that really pushed physics on the Wii was the Boom Blox series, which used every other clock cycle to calculate physics. Although I know the SMG made some use of it too.

Entries in Nintendo's core franchises are typically much different than the previous entries. The only exception I can think of to this is New Super Mario Bros. but even those games differ more than CoD and big sellers.

Edit: For awhile Mario Party was a yearly thing.

[QUOTE="Articuno76"][QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

Still, Nintendo needs to start making use of ai and physics now. They didnt do that with the Wii, despite the Wiis CPU being the strongest compontant in it. They're going to have to move with the times and stop ignoring these things now.

HalcyonScarlet

With ai, sure baby steps, in time hopefully they'll find clever ways to use it.

But i'm fairly surprised Nintendo haven't made extensive use of physics. Physics can make for some really fun and interesting gameplay in all types of games.

One of the few games that really pushed physics on the Wii was the Boom Blox series, which used every other clock cycle to calculate physics. Although I know the SMG made some use of it too.

The video hit the the nail on the head. That is one of Nintendo's biggest problems. When you have numerous Mario Parties, Fortune Street, Mario and Sonic Olympics, Mario Sluggers, Mario Tennis, Mario Soccer, Mario Kart, Super Mario Brothers 1&2, Super Mario Galaxy 1&2, Super Paper Mario, Mario vs Donkey Kong MLM, and god knows what other Mario games all coming out in the same generation it's overkill! This shows a lack of originality, creativity, and just having the stones to try something new which is embarrassing for a company whose hardware side of things can't seem to stop trying to innovate (poorly, but innovation none the less). Not even going to get into their other franchises. 

 People are really catching on to this and Nintendo is going to be hurting this console/handheld cycle. They need a rude awakening.