GameSpot: Nintendo's problem is its all about Nostalgia

Gamespot.  The site with absolute zero credibility and skewed articles/reviews.  And they seem to have it in for Nintendo.

No, this is not Nintendo's problem.

Nintendo are nostalgia. All the fans of Nintendo are fans because of nostalgia and nothing more and the few new fans they made with the Wii they lost them to Kinect. I know how it feels because I already went through that phase but you guys have to realize that the Nintendo we have now is not the same Nintendo from the Snes days.  Just because you were stuck with a N64 or GC playing Ocarina of Time and Smash Bros all year long doesn't make them good consoles, is just that you had nothing else.

Objectibely speaking, every single Zelda 3D game is like playing an expansion pack of the older ones but somehow they still score triple across the board everytime! That right there is nostalgia at its finest. Mario Galaxy? Not even that good! Not only does it look downright ugly at times, the tacked-on feel of some of its controls, its utter lack of a compelling story and super easy difficulties makes this game the most overrated thing I have played in my life. Not even joking with this. Zelda TP and SS? More overrated crap. Metroid Prime Trilogy? The only good one was the first... Smash Bros? Same crap, you can't even tell them apart. Mario Kart? They are all the same since the Snes. And so on... Nintendo are nostalgia.

Gue1

Gamespot.  The site with absolute zero credibility and skewed articles/reviews.  And they seem to have it in for Nintendo.

No, this is not Nintendo's problem.

sonic_spark

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Gamespot.  The site with absolute zero credibility and skewed articles/reviews.  And they seem to have it in for Nintendo.

No, this is not Nintendo's problem.

Blabadon

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Gamespot.  The site with absolute zero credibility and skewed articles/reviews.  And they seem to have it in for Nintendo.

No, this is not Nintendo's problem.

Shinobishyguy

I don't read anything on Gamespot, but the Gamespot forums (System Wars to be precise), for a reason. They don't put out good material, but I like the people on the forums. Seriously, their output is terrible.

TilxWLOC

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

Gamespot.  The site with absolute zero credibility and skewed articles/reviews.  And they seem to have it in for Nintendo.

No, this is not Nintendo's problem.

Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] Which is why Super Mario Galaxy got a 9.5 and Game of the Year and its sequel got a 10/10. Sure, GameSpot has it in for Nintendo.Blabadon

So are those.

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] how long ago were those reviews? Yeah as of late it seems they underrate most major nintendo titles (fire emblem, luigi's mansion etc)Goyoshi12

So are those.

I don't read anything on Gamespot, but the Gamespot forums (System Wars to be precise), for a reason. They don't put out good material, but I like the people on the forums. Seriously, their output is terrible.

TilxWLOC

I 100 percent agree with this.

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[QUOTE="Blabadon"] Three years ago, by Tom McShea, who still reviews games here. Also, the Game of the Year award and the nomination that the second got was made as a staff decision, meaning that Kevin V, Petit, Watters, etc. were all part of it. Get over the Fire Emblem and LM reviews dude. They're simply a matter of opinion.Blabadon

So are those.

I'm bored.

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

So are those.

Goyoshi12

I'm bored.

Me too.

It'd be crazy for Nintendo to drop Mario, Zelda, and the other flag ship titles. What Nintendo needs to do is get serious about creating new core games and franchises. carljohnson3456

How many more cartoons can they make?

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]It'd be crazy for Nintendo to drop Mario, Zelda, and the other flag ship titles. What Nintendo needs to do is get serious about creating new core games and franchises. StrongBlackVine

How many more cartoons can they make?

Nintendo has the biggest stable of proven IPs in the world. As long as they continue to give is all new experiences, and they do, it doesn't matter what they do.charizard1605

Then why isn't the Wii U selling if it doesn't matter what they do?!:idea:

Get over the Fire Emblem and LM reviews dude. They're simply a matter of opinion.Blabadon

My point is they're consistently underrating every major 3ds exclusive. If it were just a few isolated cases I wouldn't pay it any mind, but this has been happening multiple times in a row. Hell the system's going on three years and it still hasn't gotten one AAA here.

I'm bored.Goyoshi12

well no shit Sherlock, every review is a matter of opinion.

My point is they're consistently underrating every major 3ds exclusive. If it were just a few isolated cases I wouldn't pay it any mind, but this has been happening multiple times in a row. Hell the system's going on three years and it still hasn't gotten one AAA here.

Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]I'm bored.Blabadon

well no shit Sherlock, every review is a matter of opinion.

My point is they're consistently underrating every major 3ds exclusive. If it were just a few isolated cases I wouldn't pay it any mind, but this has been happening multiple times in a row. Hell the system's going on three years and it still hasn't gotten one AAA here.

Shinobishyguy

It'd be crazy for Nintendo to drop Mario, Zelda, and the other flag ship titles. What Nintendo needs to do is get serious about creating new core games and franchises.

carljohnson3456

I don't know, I'd imagine they'll probably start on that stuff once their on solid ground,with Xenoblade doing well and other smaller 1st party titles like Pushmo getting good reception. Maybe that with this brought to one of their marketing heads they'll start giving successful developers freedom for new IPs that they'll push. X is probably Xenoblade 2, so I'm not expecting that to be a new IP, but they seem to be pushing it at this point possibly because of how well Xenoblade did.

This is more wishful thinking than anything, but it seems like, if a developer studio does well enough they start supporting their projects more(Retro/Monolith Soft), whether that's a new IP or not is probably the latter, but like I said, a lot of attention has been going to the lack of new IPs lately it might influence them. On the other hand a lot of people want new entries, and like stated earlier in the thread you can only keep so many people happy. Who do you think would be better to please, those who want you to add on to what you'd done, or those wh complain there is nothing new?

We'll see in the future, I suppose.

well no shit Sherlock, every review is a matter of opinion.

My point is they're consistently underrating every major 3ds exclusive. If it were just a few isolated cases I wouldn't pay it any mind, but this has been happening multiple times in a row. Hell the system's going on three years and it still hasn't gotten one AAA here.

Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]So when the 3ds goes an entire generation without a single AAA here (but plenty on metacritic, other sites etc) you're not gonna notice that something is up?AznbkdX

Well I don't buy games that get 7.5's on any random site. Thats just not my style and shows how crummy they are. Those reviews bum me out too much.

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="AznbkdX"]

Well I don't buy games that get 7.5's on any random site. Thats just not my style and shows how crummy they are. Those reviews bum me out too much.

AznbkdX

Yeah even 8's are pushing it. It needs to be AAA or nothing. Its just not cool to have any differing opinions from mine otherwise I go crazy.

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Thank goodness for video reviews.

Blabadon

Yeah even 8's are pushing it. It needs to be AAA or nothing. Its just not cool to have any differing opinions from mine otherwise I go crazy.

AAA? Please. The only games I've played this generation are GTA4, MGS4, and SMG2.

As funny as this all is, sometimes their reviews are poorly done, the Pokemon B2 and W2 was a case of judging it based on past games not on its own merits.

I always use reviews when arguing with people to find a middle ground but I never buy games based on reviews, never! With demos and Youtube who needs reviews anyway? Reviews these days are so hard to trust because of bribes and because reviewers don't even use the scale of 10 the right way so we end up with a bunch of games scoring 8s, 9s and 10s everywhere. The review system for games is broken and never will be fixed because of how much importance are publishers now putting on review scores which translate to much more pressure on the reviewer.

Unless you're a casual gamer you shouldn't care about scores so much beyond some SW ownage.

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[QUOTE="Blabadon"] Thank goodness for video reviews.Blabadon

Yeah even 8's are pushing it. It needs to be AAA or nothing. Its just not cool to have any differing opinions from mine otherwise I go crazy.

That's a really nice list. Mine is full of stupidity in comparison with all these games that the reviewers are claiming barely scratch my idea of perfection. Without them I wouldn't even know what is considered good, so I guess its fine.

I expected Tom, I saw Tom. Is this McShea? It's bad that I expected him in something negative for Nintendo.

SaltyMeatballs

Skyward Swords controls don't work, it's an impossible game.

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[QUOTE="AznbkdX"]

Yeah even 8's are pushing it. It needs to be AAA or nothing. Its just not cool to have any differing opinions from mine otherwise I go crazy.

TilxWLOC

AAA? Please. The only games I've played this generation are GTA4, MGS4, and SMG2.

As funny as this all is, sometimes their reviews are poorly done, the Pokemon B2 and W2 was a case of judging it based on past games not on its own merits.

It'd be crazy for Nintendo to drop Mario, Zelda, and the other flag ship titles. What Nintendo needs to do is get serious about creating new core games and franchises. carljohnson3456

I expected Tom, I saw Tom. Is this McShea? It's bad that I expected him in something negative for Nintendo./QUOTE] Not to sound desperate to get this point across, but he gave Super Mario Galaxy 2 a 10. I mean, c'mon.

[QUOTE="TilxWLOC"]

As funny as this all is, sometimes their reviews are poorly done, the Pokemon B2 and W2 was a case of judging it based on past games not on its own merits.

AznbkdX

Yeah there are some awkward ones to be sure, but everyone really needs to remember that they don't represent anything but just another opinion. No matter how awkward it is, or how wrong and misinformative, try not to take it personally nor judge anything off of reviews without further research.

Well, people are influenced by reviews, that's why they exist, so you'd expect them to be well thought-out. Doesn't matter to me personally, I don't trust anybody who gets paid for this sort of thing, like a journalists on websites like these, for my games. They can be pretty funny to read sometimes though.

Hell the PS3 has survived this gen on new IP's like Resistance, Uncharted, LBP, and Heavy Rain. Imagine if they still only survived on their PS1 games. carljohnson3456

They do rely on nostalgia a lot but it's pretty much the only thing that's working for them right now so they shouldn't quit.

tryagainlater

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I expected Tom, I saw Tom. Is this McShea? It's bad that I expected him in something negative for Nintendo.Blabadon

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Hell the PS3 has survived this gen on new IP's like Resistance, Uncharted, LBP, and Heavy Rain. Imagine if they still only survived on their PS1 games. Zeviander

still new IPs and not to mention that this year we'll get 4 new ones: Knack, TLOU, Beyond, Drive Club and who knows what else they'll show at E3, maybe Last Guardian? Yet another new IP.   :cool:

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

I expected Tom, I saw Tom. Is this McShea? It's bad that I expected him in something negative for Nintendo.SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]It'd be crazy for Nintendo to drop Mario, Zelda, and the other flag ship titles. What Nintendo needs to do is get serious about creating new core games and franchises. Zeviander

it makes sense but I hope I don't ever see you in a thread complaining about COD or Sony milking their games. You lost that right by writing this comment.   ;)

Gamespot proving their stupidity once again. 

maybe Last Guardian? Yet another new IP.Gue1

they said it themselves: they're still excellent games and a lot of fun.BrunoBRS

just like COD games...  Excellent and very fun.

it makes sense but I hope I don't ever see you in a thread complaining about COD or Sony milking their games. You lost that right by writing this comment. Gue1

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]they said it themselves: they're still excellent games and a lot of fun.Gue1

just like COD games...  Excellent and very fun.

nono CoD games are very bad remember? the internet's logic never wrong!

[QUOTE="Blabadon"] Get over the Fire Emblem and LM reviews dude. They're simply a matter of opinion.Shinobishyguy

My point is they're consistently underrating every major 3ds exclusive. If it were just a few isolated cases I wouldn't pay it any mind, but this has been happening multiple times in a row. Hell the system's going on three years and it still hasn't gotten one AAA here.