Gamespot gives Donkey Kong Country Freeze 5/10

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Posted by T3H_1337_N1NJ4 (2144 posts) 1 year, 4 months ago

Poll: Gamespot gives Donkey Kong Country Freeze 5/10 (96 votes)

Absolutely real. 25%
Not sure if real. 35%
Absolutely not real. 38%

http://www.gamefaqs.com/wii-u/718938-donkey-kong-country-tropical-freeze/critic

If you check the more from gamespot section, it says 5/10 in there.

I'm curious to see the actual review...

The bad:

Gorillas are sexist.

Too hard.

#101 Posted by PhazonBlazer (11994 posts) -

Obviously this game simply isn't as good as Beyond: Two Souls. #ThankYouBasedMcShea

#102 Posted by Shinobishyguy (22728 posts) -

@W1NGMAN-: the game is more than functional. Tom just can't seem to judge the game by its own merits instead of whining that it isn't metroid

#103 Posted by cfisher2833 (2150 posts) -

@Boddicker said:

@cfisher2833 said:

If that link is true, it's a pretty damn huge gap between it and the game informer review. I have a hard time seeing McShea give a platformer--especially one made by Retro Studios--that low of a score, but it wouldn't surprise me. McShea is a complete joke nowadays, with no consistency whatsoever. Kevin V's the only one worth listening to tbo.

You know there are such things as shitty platformers.

I like McShea.

This is Retro we're talking about. Need I remind you the last Donkey Kong game they produced had a metacritic average of 87? Not to mention it's in 60fps.

#104 Edited by jsmoke03 (13363 posts) -

@Basinboy said:

Tom McShea? Tom McShea.

@princessgomez92 said:

Must be a Tom Mcshea review.

@SolidTy said:

This thread was McShea'd.

lol agreed

@Shinobishyguy said:

Cons: it's not metroid

this

#105 Posted by DocSanchez (2617 posts) -

Please be true.

#106 Posted by Bigboi500 (31630 posts) -

You know, I just don't understand the haters. If it scores a 9.0 they'll make an excuse as to why it's still not good, or doesn't deserve it. So if it does score a 5.0, why would that change anything for the people who wouldn't play it regardless?

#107 Edited by Shinobishyguy (22728 posts) -

@Bigboi500: because there are certain people out there thay get a chubby at the sight of a game on a system they don't like scoring low. As if some random person on the internet validates their own messed up reasoning

#108 Posted by Bigboi500 (31630 posts) -

@Shinobishyguy said:

@Bigboi500: because there are certain people out there thay get a chubby at the sight of a game on a system they don't like scoring low

Typical SW hypocrites? Yeah I know how it goes.

#109 Edited by Seabas989 (11358 posts) -

It would be a surprise of the game scored that low especially since the only issue I can think of with the first game was some of the waggle.

#110 Posted by DocSanchez (2617 posts) -

@Bigboi500: Like you're any different.

This is system wars!

#111 Edited by Pikminmaniac (9538 posts) -

Well I just read Tom Mcshea's preview and now I completely believe the rumored score... He didn't enjoy the game because he's passed the point where he can just enjoy a well made game. He needs games to redefine the way he thinks about the medium.

His reviews mean nothing if he's going to be that personal about it. How are we supposed to learn about the actual quality of a game if the reviewer just talks about his own unusual and personal feelings the whole time. Ridiculous.

Are reviews supposed to be some random guy talking about his personal feelings or about helping people figure out if a game is something that would be worth purchasing?!?

In any case, a low review from Mcshea usually confirms very high quality (looks at Skyward Sword and inFAMOUS 2)

#112 Edited by Meinhard1 (6789 posts) -

5/10 just seems like a hard thesis to support ... I'll be interested in the content of the review.

If New Super Mario Bros 2 (3DS) can get a 7 for being the most straightforward and "by the book" platformer Nintendo has ever made, then I don't see how DKC:TF could get a 5.

Retro is a very talented developer, and they had 3 years to make this game. If you watch the most recent Nintendo Direct trailer their effort certainly shows.

... it has to be the difficulty, maybe the reviewer considers it unfair. I've known people to rage-quit "Returns." This game's supposed to be a step up, in parts.

Otherwise maybe we're all being trolled.

#113 Posted by Bigboi500 (31630 posts) -

@Pikminmaniac said:

Well I just read Tom Mcshea's preview and now I completely believe the rumored score... He didn't enjoy the game because he's passed the point where he can just enjoy a well made game. He needs games to redefine the way he thinks about the medium.

His reviews mean nothing if he's going to be that personal about it. How are we supposed to learn about the actual quality of a game if the reviewer just talks about his own unusual and personal feelings the whole time. Ridiculous.

Are reviews supposed to be some random guy talking about his personal feelings or about helping people figure out if a game is something that would be worth purchasing?!?

In any case, a low review from Mcshea usually confirms very high quality (looks at Skyward Sword and inFAMOUS 2)

I don't get Tom McShea either. Him saying a good game being fun isn't good enough because it doesn't innovate the doors off of something is nonsense. If that was the case, all the annual bro shooters and sports games would consistently receive 5's every year.

You don't walk into a new and well built home, one that took a lot of time, sweat and effort to construct and say "eh, it's no Taj Mahal, so it just wont do".

#114 Posted by Kaze_no_Mirai (11690 posts) -

Ouch, if true. I know I haven't played it, but based on DKCR and Retro's previous track record I can't see how it would score so low.

#115 Posted by Meinhard1 (6789 posts) -

@Pikminmaniac said:

Well I just read Tom Mcshea's preview and now I completely believe the rumored score... He didn't enjoy the game because he's passed the point where he can just enjoy a well made game. He needs games to redefine the way he thinks about the medium.

His reviews mean nothing if he's going to be that personal about it. How are we supposed to learn about the actual quality of a game if the reviewer just talks about his own unusual and personal feelings the whole time. Ridiculous.

Are reviews supposed to be some random guy talking about his personal feelings or about helping people figure out if a game is something that would be worth purchasing?!?

In any case, a low review from Mcshea usually confirms very high quality (looks at Skyward Sword and inFAMOUS 2)

His reviews tend to have pretty good points, I think. They're great opinion pieces but often represent a more drastic position. I rarely agree with him, but do appreciate the content of his writing.

The best reviewers, take their responsibility to their audience as seriously as their responsibility to themselves. Its debatable how well McShea's reviews do this.

However he did give Returns a 8.5 stating "Donkey Kong's newest adventure makes traditional platforming feel fresh again, thanks to clever level design and great artistic touches." He went on to say how "every level hides a new surprise, and you'll replay them over and over again not only to nab every hidden collectible, but also because they're exquisitely entertaining."

If this same person is going justify a score of 5 for Tropical Freeze, I'm interested in what he has to say.

#116 Posted by DocSanchez (2617 posts) -

As much as I bash the Wii U even I can tell at this stage it's unlikely to be a 5/10 game. In most places, including this one, this isn't an average score. It's the score of a broken or farcical game, and it's unlikely to be broken or farcical.

Whether a 2D platformer is worth getting at a full retail price in this day and age is another matter, and of course due to the Wii U's meager library and disastrous sales this game is bound to be overrated and over hyped to the hilt, but I suspect if it were to get this score it would be more down to Tom O Shea's ridiculous ego more than anything. Hilarious, but not in any way credible. Like most reviews on this site.

#117 Edited by Pikminmaniac (9538 posts) -

@DocSanchez said:

As much as I bash the Wii U even I can tell at this stage it's unlikely to be a 5/10 game. In most places, including this one, this isn't an average score. It's the score of a broken or farcical game, and it's unlikely to be broken or farcical.

Whether a 2D platformer is worth getting at a full retail price in this day and age is another matter, and of course due to the Wii U's meager library and disastrous sales this game is bound to be overrated and over hyped to the hilt, but I suspect if it were to get this score it would be more down to Tom O Shea's ridiculous ego more than anything. Hilarious, but not in any way credible. Like most reviews on this site.

Well, he gave bioshock infinite a 4/10 so...

I'm personally extremely excited about this game because it's the direct sequel to the best exclusive I've played of last gen that was also the pinnacle of a genre I love very dearly. The amount of quality and detailed work put into returns as well as the large amount of content is more than worth the asking price.

That level of quality and attention to detail is very rarely found in other games.

#118 Posted by DocSanchez (2617 posts) -

@Pikminmaniac: I know you love the game, but your rhetoric so far has been quite strange. Do you actually believe it is perfect, that few other games have the same TLC put in them or attention to detail? I think you need to play more games.

#119 Posted by Bigboi500 (31630 posts) -

@DocSanchez: For once we can agree on something: McShea's reviews are about his ego and trolling the community above all else.

#120 Edited by Pikminmaniac (9538 posts) -

@DocSanchez said:

@Pikminmaniac: I know you love the game, but your rhetoric so far has been quite strange. Do you actually believe it is perfect, that few other games have the same TLC put in them or attention to detail? I think you need to play more games.

There are definitely other games with a lot of TLC put into them, but the ones at the level of DKCR are very rare. Batman Arkham City is another of those rare games IMHO. Both of these games were as close to perfection as I've experienced last gen.

#121 Edited by DocSanchez (2617 posts) -

@Bigboi500: But then they have the gall to have often more than one video series criticising the reaction they receive. I've never seen a website concentrate so much of its time into criticising it's own readers.

#122 Posted by Demonjoe93 (9793 posts) -

@DocSanchez said:

@Bigboi500: But then they have the gall to have often more than one video series criticising the reaction they receive. I've never seen a website concentrate so much of its time into criticising it's own readers.

It's like they don't want people to come here. First, they constantly give shock critics big releases to troll the forums so they lose all credibility (I only come here to write my own user reviews and post on the forums that I've been on for four years; I stopped taking the reviews here with any form of seriousness), then they decide to completely change the Web site, which caused many users to just leave.

#123 Edited by Demonjoe93 (9793 posts) -

The shock reviews here have also kinda ruined hype threads for me. I mean, what's the point of trying to guess what a game is going to get if Tom's just going to go against everyone's estimations for lulz?

I guess we can just a game out of what dumb criticism he is going to give a game. :P

#124 Posted by DocSanchez (2617 posts) -

@Demonjoe93: Honestly, my stock in their reviews considering the politics and trolling going on recently is zero. I've been gaming for so long that I'm the best judge of games for me I could ever be (I know what I like, I can discern good games from the reactions of people I trust and trying them out and seeing who is producing them) but it's frankly annoying seeing what's going on.

At one point we had that Feedbackula, Reality Check and even several articles directly criticising the readers by judging us purely from the lowest amongst us. Every section of society has it's idiots, from gamers to sports fans to fuckin library goers. Ignore them.

Basically, they think they're on a pedestal. And people who put themselves on a pedestal are almost always wankers.

#125 Posted by Demonjoe93 (9793 posts) -

@DocSanchez said:

@Demonjoe93: Honestly, my stock in their reviews considering the politics and trolling going on recently is zero. I've been gaming for so long that I'm the best judge of games for me I could ever be (I know what I like, I can discern good games from the reactions of people I trust and trying them out and seeing who is producing them) but it's frankly annoying seeing what's going on.

At one point we had that Feedbackula, Reality Check and even several articles directly criticising the readers by judging us purely from the lowest amongst us. Every section of society has it's idiots, from gamers to sports fans to fuckin library goers. Ignore them.

Basically, they think they're on a pedestal. And people who put themselves on a pedestal are almost always wankers.

Oh, but that's the best part of Feedbackula, the straw manning! Instead of addressing constructive criticisms towards controversial reviews *cough*GTAV review*cough*, they find it easier to take the nastiest and most hateful comments, give them an irrational voice-over for good measure as to depict us all as stupid, angry fanboys, do the same thing to some posts that bring up legitimate criticisms so they'll look bad too (but not to the calmest sounding comments), and then have the British guy with glasses (can't remember his name) talk down to us.

#126 Posted by DocSanchez (2617 posts) -

@Demonjoe93: Yeap. That was my problem too. Constructive criticism is brushed aside because they'd rather childishly make funny noises and attack the people who, frankly, don't matter or care. And then act like everyone is the same as that.

#127 Posted by locopatho (21367 posts) -

@foxhound_fox said:

@MonsieurX said:
@Pikminmaniac said:

I'm calling BS on this. The first Retro developed Donkey Kong was near perfection and their track record is spotless.

Near perfection?

Was a great game,but I wouldn't say that far

Had they chosen not to go with the waggle-to-roll control scheme, it would have been near perfection (as near as humanly possible). Mechanically it wasn't as perfect as Super Meat Boy, but design-wise it was absolutely exemplary. That and the level of challenge ramped up significantly after the third world and was downright diabolical in world 8. Not a single point was it ever cheap, either.

Yeah, agree with all that, it and SMB were my fave 2d platformers last gen. I've always felt it's a bit of a waste using Retro to make yet more cuddly 2d platformers, but can't argue with the quality they produced. If this gets a 5 I'd be very surprised.

#128 Posted by locopatho (21367 posts) -

@Shinobishyguy said:

@Bigboi500: because there are certain people out there thay get a chubby at the sight of a game on a system they don't like scoring low. As if some random person on the internet validates their own messed up reasoning

Hyping games and laughing at fanboy reactions to flops are one the major passtimes of SW. You know that. Stuff like Zelda's 8.8 (leading to multiple porn suicide threads) are about as entertaining as this place gets :P

Sheep spoiled it when they got all bitter and hateful towards Gamespot reviews, it was more fun when a flop could enrage the flock... Skyward Swords flop passed by with almost no reaction :'( :P

#129 Posted by Nintendo_Man (19640 posts) -

Unless they have changed the policy on reviews on GS (which is that the person(s) who does a preview cannot do the review).

#130 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (3053 posts) -

Lies I call bs

#131 Edited by AmayaPapaya (9029 posts) -

@locopatho said:

@Shinobishyguy said:

@Bigboi500: because there are certain people out there thay get a chubby at the sight of a game on a system they don't like scoring low. As if some random person on the internet validates their own messed up reasoning

Hyping games and laughing at fanboy reactions to flops are one the major passtimes of SW. You know that. Stuff like Zelda's 8.8 (leading to multiple porn suicide threads) are about as entertaining as this place gets :P

Sheep spoiled it when they got all bitter and hateful towards Gamespot reviews, it was more fun when a flop could enrage the flock... Skyward Swords flop passed by with almost no reaction :'( :P

Skyward Sword was overkill, that's why it was not a big deal. 8.5 would have been way worse.

#132 Posted by jg4xchamp (51467 posts) -

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/wrestling-with-donkey-kong-country-tropical-freeze/1100-6416779/

I'm all for the notion of game companies being blasted for doing more of the same(especially Nintendo). I'm all for thinking less of a game that is aping existing games for every little idea it has. But that reads like a disclaimer/apology for his review. That is frankly pusscake status. If you want to be critical, be critical in your review, and then stand by it. Don't apologize for it or throw out some kind of disclaimer.

#133 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (3053 posts) -

Does not matter what score the game gets the wii eww is still not going to sell. Could score 20 and it is still going to be on the wii eww a doomed console.

#134 Edited by KBFloYd (15046 posts) -

@no-scope-AK47 said:

Does not matter what score the game gets the wii eww is still not going to sell. Could score 20 and it is still going to be on the wii eww a doomed console.

you better hope someone buys sony's phones and tvs too. like voaio that went bye bye

we already had a taste of sony kneeling before us....same for sega and atari...

#135 Posted by GunSmith1_basic (9908 posts) -

So this thread is just a big waste of time right?

#136 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (3053 posts) -

@KBFloYd said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

Does not matter what score the game gets the wii eww is still not going to sell. Could score 20 and it is still going to be on the wii eww a doomed console.

you better hope someone buys sony's phones and tvs too. like voaio that went bye bye

we already had a taste of sony kneeling before us....same for sega and atari...

Sony has the best phone on the market. It's water/dust proof with a 1080p screen and a 20.7 mega pixal cam and 2 mega pixal front cam. Oh it also has the SD 800 and adreno 330 gpu with 2 gigs of ram and 32gb of ROM with a micro sd port for up to 64gb of extra memory. Oh native dual shock 3 support and fm radio and runs all games great. I know I have one worth every penny and tmobile has great 4g for usb and wifi hotspot also.

Best of all it looks good and has great battery life even after heavy use. Oh it's true yeah Sony got the best projector and some of the best hdtv's also. Also got the camera game on smash also in case your wondering. Say what you want but Sony makes some good gear.

#137 Posted by KBFloYd (15046 posts) -

@no-scope-AK47 said:

@KBFloYd said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

Does not matter what score the game gets the wii eww is still not going to sell. Could score 20 and it is still going to be on the wii eww a doomed console.

you better hope someone buys sony's phones and tvs too. like voaio that went bye bye

we already had a taste of sony kneeling before us....same for sega and atari...

Sony has the best phone on the market. It's water/dust proof with a 1080p screen and a 20.7 mega pixal cam and 2 mega pixal front cam. Oh it also has the SD 800 and adreno 330 gpu with 2 gigs of ram and 32gb of ROM with a micro sd port for up to 64gb of extra memory. Oh native dual shock 3 support and fm radio and runs all games great. I know I have one worth every penny and tmobile has great 4g for usb and wifi hotspot also.

Best of all it looks good and has great battery life even after heavy use. Oh it's true yeah Sony got the best projector and some of the best hdtv's also. Also got the camera game on smash also in case your wondering. Say what you want but Sony makes some good gear.

yea and that's why it sells so well..

cheers

#138 Edited by Comduter (2271 posts) -

@T3H_1337_N1NJ4 said:

@Comduter said:

I can't tell if TC is joking, nor do I know what the hell he's even talking about. Anyway, there is no review from GS yet, only 1 review from Game Informer giving it a 9.25/10.

Next time, try to read the topic. That will probably help you figure things out.

I already did (not hard to miss), and it doesn't help. The topic only refers to a review that isn't there, and the rest of the post makes no straightforward reference to that fact.

#139 Edited by Advid-Gamer (4681 posts) -

Funny how everyone knows its a bs thread yet has to try and post some whitty comment about if it was real. Sadly nothing but complete nerds left here.

#140 Posted by svaubel (2673 posts) -

Gamespot continues the tradition of trying to be the lowest score on the aggregate review list. Their reviews are beyond a joke these days.

#141 Posted by getyeryayasout (8693 posts) -

There's still no GS review up. Why is this thread left open? Is it just so that there is one less slot for an awful Freedonfreelife thread? If that's the rationale, I'm cool with it.

#142 Posted by nintendoboy16 (28384 posts) -

@Comduter said:

@T3H_1337_N1NJ4 said:

@Comduter said:

I can't tell if TC is joking, nor do I know what the hell he's even talking about. Anyway, there is no review from GS yet, only 1 review from Game Informer giving it a 9.25/10.

Next time, try to read the topic. That will probably help you figure things out.

I already did (not hard to miss), and it doesn't help. The topic only refers to a review that isn't there, and the rest of the post makes no straightforward reference to that fact.

There's an image he linked.

#143 Posted by Locutus_Picard (3998 posts) -

@MrYaotubo said:
@k2theswiss said:

ok? when a game scores low why do people on her try pull sexist shit against the reviewer?

It´s the way fanboys use to discredit a review these days.

If it´s McShea then it has been McShea´d,if it´s Carolyn then it´s something something transgender,if it´s Kevin it´s because he´s gay,if its McInnis,Watters or whatever it´s because they´re idiots,if it´s Danny must be because he´s british.

lol

Kevin is gay? Huh, never would have guessed.

Danny is awesome!

#144 Posted by aroxx_ab (11055 posts) -

So the best game WiiU have the first half of the year flopped...i thought i looked like a solid 8 at least:/

#145 Edited by remiks00 (2639 posts) -

But Crankey Kong.... :o

#146 Edited by nintendoboy16 (28384 posts) -

@getyeryayasout said:

There's still no GS review up. Why is this thread left open? Is it just so that there is one less slot for an awful Freedonfreelife thread? If that's the rationale, I'm cool with it.

Well, the review HAS to be coming soon anyway.

#147 Posted by m_machine024 (15234 posts) -

Impossible. That's too low. I expect a 7 at the lowest.

#148 Edited by Meinhard1 (6789 posts) -

So the score went up to 6/10. And now it's gone. If you follow the link in OP you can no longer see the score.

It's a real mystery guys. A true head scratcher.

#149 Posted by nintendoboy16 (28384 posts) -

@Meinhard1 said:

So the score went up to 6/10. And now it's gone. If you follow the link in OP you can no longer see the score.

It's a real mystery guys. A true head scratcher.

Either way, I expect a major flop.

#150 Posted by super600 (31215 posts) -

@Meinhard1 said:

So the score went up to 6/10. And now it's gone. If you follow the link in OP you can no longer see the score.

It's a real mystery guys. A true head scratcher.

How can the score go up when it was originally a 5?