Gamespot : 500$ PC outperforms both PS4 and X1

#1 Edited by Cloud_imperium (2481 posts) -
ComponentTypePriceStore
CPUAMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz$109.00Amazon
MotherboardASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 AM3+ AMD 760G$48.49Newegg
CaseFractal Core 1000$39.99Newegg
PSUEVGA 100-W1-500-KR 500W$44.99Newegg
GPUPowerColor AX7850 2GBD5-DH Radeon HD 7850 (open box item)$107.00Newegg
RAMHyperX XMP Blu Series 4GB DDR3 1600$40.00Newegg
StorageSeagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB$50.95Amazon
OSWindows 8$70.00eBay
Key/MouseV7 Standard PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse Combo$10.19Amazon
Subtotal$520.61
Sales Tax$45.55
Total

$566

Without OS = 496$

Benchmarks :

GameSettingsAverage Frame Rate
Assassin's Creed IV1080p, Ultra, AA42
Battlefield 41080p, High, AA72
Battlefield 41080p, Ultra, MSAA42
Thief1080p, Ultra, AA87
Titanfall1080p, Very High, AA

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Verdict :

As it turns out, you can build a gaming PC for around the cost of an Xbox One that will outperform both next-gen consoles.

Source

They have also built few other PCs , so make sure to check out this article . It is pretty cool .

#2 Edited by BattleSpectre (5963 posts) -

Unfortunately in Australia you can't build such a PC for $500. I hate you Americans! If I lived in the states I would have a 4K monitor with 3-way GTX 780ti's + all the goodies. Parts are way too cheap over there.

Anyways there are some points to be considered here, like no monitor and peripherals. It comes to a total of $566 which is not bad at all, but with a monitor add another few hundred on top. Still a great performer and price for someone who wants to get into PC gaming.

#3 Posted by Telekill (4390 posts) -

I'll stick with my PS4. It has the games I want to play; both exclusive and not exclusive.

#4 Edited by ZoomZoom2490 (3934 posts) -

# it says $520 dollars, delete this thread mods, TC lied.

btw, PS4 is $399, Sony could have included a far better GPU than a used 7870 in that PC rig, rofl.

and lol at the $10 dollar K/M combo, hahahahha.

FAIL!

#5 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3460 posts) -

Okay.

#6 Posted by fueled-system (6256 posts) -

We know, do we really need these weekly reassurance threads though..?

#7 Edited by Sophette (508 posts) -

We know, do we really need these weekly reassurance threads though..?

Seriously, I was just about to type that!

#8 Posted by melonfarmerz (1120 posts) -

In other news, the sky is blue. If this thread doesn't get locked, 100 peasants are going to come marching in screaming "I prefer console cus GOTY. LOL PC has no exclusives PC begger race.

#9 Edited by Cloud_imperium (2481 posts) -
@Telekill said:

I'll stick with my PS4. It has the games I want to play; both exclusive and not exclusive.

But I'm pointing gun at you to use PC .

This thread is about power , not games , that every platform have . Never said one platform is better than other , or you must buy it at any cost .

Just made this thread , because lot of trolls try to misguide people that you need 3000 dollar PC to play games on it .

#10 Posted by Boddicker (2491 posts) -

We all know PC's are inherently better, but I still see some flaws in your appraisal (mainly the RAM).

In a couple years who knows what the PS4 will be capable of? By then though I expect equivalent PC's to be built for cheaper.

#11 Posted by Telekill (4390 posts) -

@Cloud_imperium: I'm curious exactly when games stopped being the reason for gaming on gaming forums.

Was it the turn of the century?

#12 Posted by melonfarmerz (1120 posts) -

@Telekill: This gen. When PS4 fans got out of hand, boasting about 1080p and how it makes their console superior. Have you seen how mamy "ISS is the best looking game ever" and "ISS has 11 million polys" and "game x has 1080p on PS4, xbox versionunconfirmed" threads are on this forum.

#13 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (2723 posts) -

I am surprised how fast the amd box ran consolites should build one.

#14 Posted by GabranthXIII (989 posts) -

Peasants get REKT again.

#15 Posted by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -

Unfortunately doesn't outperform in goty exclusives.

Is it just me, or are herms getting more and more desperate?

#16 Posted by lostrib (34276 posts) -

The use of an open box item is kind of bullshit

#17 Edited by lostrib (34276 posts) -

@xboxdone74 said:

Unfortunately doesn't outperform in goty exclusives.

Is it just me, or are herms getting more and more desperate?

No, that would be you that sounds desperate, and quite insecure as well

#18 Posted by SolidGame_basic (16770 posts) -

I can afford a gaming PC if I want, but what would be the point? I have everything I pretty much need with PS4. Unless I want to play some kind of strategy game ike Starcraft, which I can play on a regular pc.

#19 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (3816 posts) -

US ONLY. over here in uk it would cost much more than ps4

#20 Edited by melonfarmerz (1120 posts) -

@melonfarmerz said:

In other news, the sky is blue. If this thread doesn't get locked, 100 peasants are going to come marching in screaming "I prefer console cus GOTY. LOL PC has no exclusives PC begger race.

@xboxdone74 said:

Unfortunately doesn't outperform in goty exclusives.

Is it just me, or are herms getting more and more desperate?

Called it. I hope you realize you've become a joke herms use to describe cows. So many times I've seen, "you're almost as much of a broken record as XboxDone" in threads you're not even participating in.

And lol there are currently 15 threads I can count in the front page alone about PS4 resolution being higher than the Xboxs or about the technical features or sales of ISS. You guys are the most desperate group of fanboys ever.

#21 Edited by lostrib (34276 posts) -

I can afford a gaming PC if I want, but what would be the point? I have everything I pretty much need with PS4. Unless I want to play some kind of strategy game ike Starcraft, which I can play on a regular pc.

dat 30fps

#22 Edited by Salt_The_Fries (8355 posts) -

But PS4 fanboys outperform both X1 fanboys and PC fanboys in their zealousy :'(

#23 Posted by 7MDMA (265 posts) -

I can afford a gaming PC if I want, but what would be the point? I have everything I pretty much need with PS4. Unless I want to play some kind of strategy game ike Starcraft, which I can play on a regular pc.

The point is gameplay (FPS) and graphics (high/ultra) settings. What else is more imporant for games?

In before, TLOU 8 hour movie game was GOTY.

#24 Posted by brimmul777 (1127 posts) -

I'm sorry to say,but I got to say it.I'm really tired of these "my PC is better then your console","my console is better then your PC".Bullshit threads.

#25 Posted by I_can_haz (6551 posts) -

Unfortunately doesn't outperform in goty exclusives.

Is it just me, or are herms getting more and more desperate?

Yea they are.

#26 Posted by lostrib (34276 posts) -

I'm sorry to say,but I got to say it.I'm really tired of these "my PC is better then your console","my console is better then your PC".Bullshit threads.

then you may be in the wrong place

#27 Posted by GabranthXIII (989 posts) -

I can afford a high end gaming PC, but I prefer 30 fps, 720p and 60€ games. Peasant logic at it's best.

#28 Edited by lostrib (34276 posts) -

@7mdma said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

I can afford a gaming PC if I want, but what would be the point? I have everything I pretty much need with PS4. Unless I want to play some kind of strategy game ike Starcraft, which I can play on a regular pc.

The point is gameplay (FPS) and graphics (high/ultra) settings. What else is more imporant for games?

In before, TLOU 8 hour movie game was GOTY.

FPS isn't gameplay, it's performance unless you mean first person shooter gameplay

#29 Posted by BattleSpectre (5963 posts) -

Another thing I find funny is everyone assumes America = The World. Every country is different and prices are subject to change but I guess America is all that matters these days #SadViolinMusic

#30 Edited by 7MDMA (265 posts) -

@lostrib

I see what you mean.

Not gameplay per se, but high, steady FPS makes gaming more enjoyable across the board.

#31 Posted by SolidGame_basic (16770 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

I can afford a gaming PC if I want, but what would be the point? I have everything I pretty much need with PS4. Unless I want to play some kind of strategy game ike Starcraft, which I can play on a regular pc.

dat 30fps

I wasn't aware that you had a secret ball that reveals what's going to happen this gen and the games coming out. As far as I know, there will be a ton of great games hermits will miss unless they get a console!

#32 Edited by tormentos (17044 posts) -

That GPU is out of stock first second is weaker than the PS4.

But would the same GPU architecture as the PS4 be able to provide the transformative experience we're looking for? We ran a quick test. On a base level, we wanted our PC to run Battlefield 4 at 1080p on high settings with higher frame-rates than the 900p PS4 game, ideally hitting 60fps. We chose a known BF4 bottleneck from the initial Baku level and compared the R9 270/270X with PS4, and then with the logical next step up in GPU power: Nvidia's GeForce GTX 760.

The results are clear enough. The 270/270X mostly delivers the 1080p60 experience we crave, but under stress both cards fall behind the PS4 performance. Bearing in mind that the AMD cards are still delivering a massive 44 per cent boost in resolution over the PS4 game, it's clear that they remain the sweet spot in terms of price vs performance. However, the experience is just that much smoother and better on the more expensive GTX 760.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-the-next-gen-digital-foundry-pc

The R270 >>>> the 7850 and still if 1080p on high it fall behind the PS4 frame wise..

What is that going under PS4 performance with a R270 which is basically a refresh 7870.?

Yeah now you get why the game is 900p on PS4,the performance dropped more if you were on 1080p.

Tomb Raider was even worse they have to turn off Tressfx because the performance would drop on the R270 to 28FPS...lol

The Digital Foundry PC loses the showcase TressFX tech in order to sustain higher frame-rates than the PS4 version of the game, but makes up for it to a certain extent with a number of other image quality advantages. However, it's fair to say that PC offers no knockout blow against the PS4 version - certainly not without throwing a lot more money at the parts list.

Thread.

#33 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (2723 posts) -

I can afford a gaming PC if I want, but what would be the point? I have everything I pretty much need with PS4. Unless I want to play some kind of strategy game ike Starcraft, which I can play on a regular pc.

Your got better graphics on pc and fps plus mods and steam the best online gaming service. Oh you save money on games and you can run emulators and pretty much anything else you want. All for the price of a console if that is not ownage I don't know what is ??

#34 Edited by BattleSpectre (5963 posts) -

@no-scope-AK47 said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

I can afford a gaming PC if I want, but what would be the point? I have everything I pretty much need with PS4. Unless I want to play some kind of strategy game ike Starcraft, which I can play on a regular pc.

Your got better graphics on pc and fps plus mods and steam the best online gaming service. Oh you save money on games and you can run emulators and pretty much anything else you want. All for the price of a console if that is not ownage I don't know what is ??

Can't believe you badass mother F***** are jumping at his throat only because he prefers gaming on a console. You can't force him to get a PC, soon we'll see people holding a gun to someone's head in a video game store because he chose to buy a console game. Come on guys, grow up a little.

#35 Posted by cfisher2833 (1572 posts) -

I never understood how it was they weren't able to get Thief to run at 60fps on at least the PS4. I mean, look at that: a 7850 getting an avg framerate of 87! What happened to the PS4 being the equivalent of a 7850?

#36 Edited by Cloud_imperium (2481 posts) -
@lostrib said:

@7mdma said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

I can afford a gaming PC if I want, but what would be the point? I have everything I pretty much need with PS4. Unless I want to play some kind of strategy game ike Starcraft, which I can play on a regular pc.

The point is gameplay (FPS) and graphics (high/ultra) settings. What else is more imporant for games?

In before, TLOU 8 hour movie game was GOTY.

FPS isn't gameplay, it's performance unless you mean first person shooter gameplay

He meant , better frame rates improve gameplay (Immersion , Controls responsiveness etc)

#37 Edited by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -

@melonfarmerz: well, getting clowned on, and owned daily, is bad enough. But herms getting clowned on, and owned daily by a guy they consider a joke....that's doubly worse.

Keep on beggin'. B-)

#38 Posted by melonfarmerz (1120 posts) -

@melonfarmerz: well, getting clowned on, and owned daily, is bad enough. But herms getting clowned on, and owned daily by a guy they consider a joke....that's doubly worse.

Keep on beggin'. B-)

You're the only person who thinks you've ever provided a decent argument.

#39 Posted by happyduds77 (1448 posts) -

Well that's not the case over where I am living.

But don't you have to turn off half of the effects to have a stable framerate?

#40 Posted by vashkey (33718 posts) -

@Telekill said:

I'll stick with my PS4. It has the games I want to play; both exclusive and not exclusive.

There are like two games worth playing on PS4 that eren't on PC...

#41 Edited by Cloud_imperium (2481 posts) -

That GPU is out of stock first second is weaker than the PS4.

But would the same GPU architecture as the PS4 be able to provide the transformative experience we're looking for? We ran a quick test. On a base level, we wanted our PC to run Battlefield 4 at 1080p on high settings with higher frame-rates than the 900p PS4 game, ideally hitting 60fps. We chose a known BF4 bottleneck from the initial Baku level and compared the R9 270/270X with PS4, and then with the logical next step up in GPU power: Nvidia's GeForce GTX 760.

The results are clear enough. The 270/270X mostly delivers the 1080p60 experience we crave, but under stress both cards fall behind the PS4 performance. Bearing in mind that the AMD cards are still delivering a massive 44 per cent boost in resolution over the PS4 game, it's clear that they remain the sweet spot in terms of price vs performance. However, the experience is just that much smoother and better on the more expensive GTX 760.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-the-next-gen-digital-foundry-pc

The R270 >>>> the 7850 and still if 1080p on high it fall behind the PS4 frame wise..

What is that going under PS4 performance with a R270 which is basically a refresh 7870.?

Yeah now you get why the game is 900p on PS4,the performance dropped more if you were on 1080p.

Tomb Raider was even worse they have to turn off Tressfx because the performance would drop on the R270 to 28FPS...lol

The Digital Foundry PC loses the showcase TressFX tech in order to sustain higher frame-rates than the PS4 version of the game, but makes up for it to a certain extent with a number of other image quality advantages. However, it's fair to say that PC offers no knockout blow against the PS4 version - certainly not without throwing a lot more money at the parts list.

Thread.

You do realize that , those benchmarks were running in High settings in 1080p unlike consoles' low settings at 900p/720p right .?

As for Tomb Raider , the game's TressFX 1.0 is not as optimized as Tress 2,0 . Also keep in mind that definitive edition looks much worse thaan PC version .

Digital Foundary says


"A direct comparison with the PC
version set to the ultimate quality preset reveals some large
discrepancies between the Definitive Editions compared with the full-fat
PC experience. Aspects such as tessellation are missing on the
characters and environments, with some of these elements appearing more
blocky on the PS4 and Xbox One as a result. Meanwhile, motion blur is
used much more sparingly, while texture resolution is noticeably lower
in some cases."

"Running with the ultimate preset enabled
and the original TressFX in action, it's clear that the Definitive
Edition delivers an upgrade in select areas, but fails to trump the PC
game in all respects. Certainly, when it comes to running at 1080p60 -
or with even higher resolutions and frame-rate - no other platform can
truly offer a PC-beating experience.""

#42 Posted by XboxDone74 (2047 posts) -

@melonfarmerz: to herms, yes of course. They hate seeing my links, charts, and other facts I drop. They cringe constantly, hoping I won't drop them again, and when I do, they either have a meltdown, or turn into net ostriches.

The days of the herm running rampant on sw are over. The days of the pc beggar being exposed, daily, is in full swing.

Deal with it.

#43 Edited by WilliamRLBaker (28357 posts) -

hmm no monitor, no speakers....also can a system really be considered a gaming system when in a year under those specs it won't play any of the newest games except at 5 fps?

Then you have the fact that Pira....I mean Hermits tell us that you need the best mice and keyboard, you need a 30 inch monitor, you have to run it at above 1080p resolution with 16xAA...etc atleast whenever they tout graphics this is what they do..but they are more than willing to cut back on alot of things too try and beat consoles in price and sales, including allow mac's in with their bunch, as well as try to use tablet and smart phone sales as pc sales.

#44 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (13375 posts) -

lmao, he's still grasping?

#45 Edited by no-scope-AK47 (2723 posts) -

@BattleSpectre said:

@no-scope-AK47 said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

I can afford a gaming PC if I want, but what would be the point? I have everything I pretty much need with PS4. Unless I want to play some kind of strategy game ike Starcraft, which I can play on a regular pc.

Your got better graphics on pc and fps plus mods and steam the best online gaming service. Oh you save money on games and you can run emulators and pretty much anything else you want. All for the price of a console if that is not ownage I don't know what is ??

Can't believe you badass mother F***** are jumping at his throat only because he prefers gaming on a console. You can't force him to get a PC, soon we'll see people holding a gun to someone's head in a video game store because he chose to buy a console game. Come on guys, grow up a little.

Consolites keep saying gaming on pc is expensive. They say they like sitting on their sofa. They say they like using pads better than kbam. Hermits debunk all these lame stories and point out that you get more games and mods plus games are cheaper. Even the loading times are much faster and it is still a pc. The graphics are better and the fps are better. You name it pc got over console. The only thing console has is a couple of exclusives.

IMO it's a no brainer even old games like skyrim get new mods for free adding value to your games. To say you like consoles better with all the drawbacks for the same money is just retarded.

You also don't have to worry about your old games not working like on console. I also see HD remakes lmfao when you get emulators doing 1080p or better on ps2/wii/gc/DC/N64 ect for free. What did the pc do to consolites slap your mom why all the hate ??

#46 Posted by KillzoneSnake (1690 posts) -

PS4 stronger than that PC. Rushed day 1 last gen multiplats that show nothing of what PS4 can do mean nothing. Show benchmarks of real next gen games. Ass creed 5 will be next gen, unlike last gen AC4. Would be funny to see that PC run a real next gen game lol. The Order 1886 eats that PC xD

#47 Edited by Jankarcop (8976 posts) -

@xboxdone74 said:

Unfortunately doesn't outperform in goty exclusives.

But it does outperform in AAA, AA, online, and multiplats.

Which would people rather have? (The answer is PC, as it has more players)

#48 Posted by no-scope-AK47 (2723 posts) -

PS4 stronger than that PC. Rushed day 1 last gen multiplats that show nothing of what PS4 can do mean nothing. Show benchmarks of real next gen games. Ass creed 5 will be next gen, unlike last gen AC4. Would be funny to see that PC run a real next gen game lol. The Order 1886 eats that PC xD

You mean like Ryse lmao consolites just give it up. It's really sad Bbbbuutttt da cloud or secret sauce or dx12 or drivers ect. Even when the proof is looking at you dead in your face consolites always in denial. The cheap pc ran the same games at better settings and higher frame rates deal with it.

#49 Posted by lunar1122 (664 posts) -

@Cloud_imperium: You sure owned him hard lol. He probably wont even comment now with that butt gaping so widely

#50 Edited by AM-Gamer (3562 posts) -

@Cloud_imperium: It won't for long, rushed launch ports are not a good indicator of what a console can do. Especially since the gpu in the PS4 beats that pc.