GamesIndustry.biz: Sony brings backwards compatibility with Gaikai

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-06-01-sony-brings-backwards-compatibility-to-playstation-with-gaikai-deal

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First and third-party games to be streamed to hardware

Sony's rumoured cloud gaming deal with Gaikai is to allow current-generation hardware to play PlayStation 2 and PSone games via a streaming solution,GamesIndustry Internationalunderstands.

According to sources, the service will offer first-party games and be open to third-party publishers to sell back catalogue to players. The partnership is likely to be announced at E3 next week as part of Sony's conference on Monday.

GamesIndustrybiz

So this is another rumour circulating regarding Sony's deal with a cloud-gaming company. What does SW think?

So No PS3?

My launch ps3 is better. Fizzman

yeah being able to play the games i already have with no hassle>this other option.

So you are just rebuying PS1/PS2 games you bought already.This isn't backwards compatibility, they are just reselling old games to you over the cloud.

So you are just rebuying PS1/PS2 games you bought already.This isn't backwards compatibility, they are just reselling old games to you over the cloud.

heretrix

Exactly what I was going to say, who in their right mind would consider this backwards compatibility.

So Sony decides to do this when this gen almost finished?

Unless their tech is epically improved from Onlive, this doesn't sound all that attractive.

Though I suppose it's easier for them to make video of PS2 games not look like garbage.

Surprised more than anything that it is with Gaikai, and not Online. Don't really see the point, when any PS3 can play PS1 games and PS2 games on the PSN store. If you have to buy them again to stream them, then what is the point? BibiMaghoo

the point is that now devs doesn't have to put any work in converting the game to work on the PS3, so the process of adding new games will be faster and cheaper. But to tell you the true I don't like the idea of paying for a game that will be stored in a far away server that when it goes or when I don't have an internet collection I will not be able to play it. Sony always come up with the worst ideas....

That is NOT backwards compatibility. Backwards compatibility would be me popping in my PS2 games into my PS3 and playing them.AmazonTreeBoa

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]Surprised more than anything that it is with Gaikai, and not Online. Don't really see the point, when any PS3 can play PS1 games and PS2 games on the PSN store. If you have to buy them again to stream them, then what is the point? Gue1

the point is that now devs doesn't have to put any work in converting the game to work on the PS3, so the process of adding new games will be faster and cheaper. But to tell you the true I don't like the idea of paying for a game that will be stored in a far away server that when it goes or when I don't have an internet collection I will not be able to play it. Sony always come up with the worst ideas....

So Sony decides to do this when this gen almost finished?

DeadMan1290

My launch ps3 is better. Fizzman

Unless there is some way to put in a physical PS2 game I already own and then play it over the streaming, this is a joke, and a double insult that they have not just developed an emulator by now and released it for free. Good grief, if Microsoft can emulate original xbox games on 360 then the PS3 should have no trouble powering through some PS2 games.

Unless there is some way to put in a physical PS2 game I already own and then play it over the streaming, this is a joke, and a double insult that they have not just developed an emulator by now and released it for free. Good grief, if Microsoft can emulate original xbox games on 360 then the PS3 should have no trouble powering through some PS2 games.

I hope this is some sort of subscription, rather than pay per title. A netflix-esque service with PS1/PS2 library would be good. Cloud-streaming isn't that bad, and the tech is rapidly improving. I'd imagine that my internet connection at present would handle it.Ravensmash

That would be awsome but that's wishful thinking at it's best. Sony finally seems to be thinking of ways to make money as well, but if what you said comes to pass alot of people would jump aboard that option

would be cool if it they used a suscription strategy. Like Netflix.

Unless their tech is epically improved from Onlive, this doesn't sound all that attractive.

Though I suppose it's easier for them to make video of PS2 games not look like garbage.

Cherokee_Jack

At least not for a console hardware maker. There is a good article about this. Let me try to find it.

Found it

So Sony decides to do this when this gen almost finished?

DeadMan1290

edit: GS is messing up my posts. Anyone else having this problem?

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]Surprised more than anything that it is with Gaikai, and not Online. Don't really see the point, when any PS3 can play PS1 games and PS2 games on the PSN store. If you have to buy them again to stream them, then what is the point? Chris_Williams

the point is that now devs doesn't have to put any work in converting the game to work on the PS3, so the process of adding new games will be faster and cheaper. But to tell you the true I don't like the idea of paying for a game that will be stored in a far away server that when it goes or when I don't have an internet collection I will not be able to play it. Sony always come up with the worst ideas....

cloud gaming will not take off, this is no Steam. There is a huge difference between a DD delivery service to play streamed games.

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]Surprised more than anything that it is with Gaikai, and not Online. Don't really see the point, when any PS3 can play PS1 games and PS2 games on the PSN store. If you have to buy them again to stream them, then what is the point? Chris_Williams

the point is that now devs doesn't have to put any work in converting the game to work on the PS3, so the process of adding new games will be faster and cheaper. But to tell you the true I don't like the idea of paying for a game that will be stored in a far away server that when it goes or when I don't have an internet collection I will not be able to play it. Sony always come up with the worst ideas....

cloud gaming will not take off, this is no Steam. There is a huge difference between a DD delivery service compared to play streamed games.

That would be intresting.

So Sony decides to do this when this gen almost finished?

DeadMan1290

If this rumor is true to begin with then Sony would be smart to allow people to stream ps3 games in addition to ps1/2 games. Otherwise this is waste of time imo. Especially if it's a pay per game deal and not subscription based.

If this rumor is true to begin with then Sony would be smart to allow people to stream ps3 games in addition to ps1/2 games. Otherwise this is waste of time imo. Especially if it's a pay per game deal and not subscription based.

meh.. I still got my Ps2 and my Ps1.

Unless there is some way to put in a physical PS2 game I already own and then play it over the streaming, this is a joke, and a double insult that they have not just developed an emulator by now and released it for free. Good grief, if Microsoft can emulate original xbox games on 360 then the PS3 should have no trouble powering through some PS2 games.

GIJames248

because software emulation doesn't work for all games, as evidenced by the 80GB Launch PS3 which used part-software emulation and part-hardware. not all games work, even first-party games like God Of War had issues with the cutscenes, etc.

the first Xbox had no games whatsoever compared to the PS2, so problems like this can occur but in a minute amount. you can see consumers will get pissed off if they found out that their PS2 games won't work due to software emulation problems, so it will do more bad for Sony than good. and before you whine more, there's a lot of third-arty games for the PS2 that it would be stupid for Sony to try to fix games they don't own or didn't produce it would cost much more to fix it rather than putting in hardware like the 60GB Launch PS3, which is expensive enough already.

do you really think Sony can't do PS2 emulation on the PS3 because they're so money-hungry? lol. software emulation has problems of its own. the PS2 and PS3 have different architectures, that's why the 60GB Launch PS3 had a built-in PS2 Emotion Engine processor alongside the PS3's Cell processor. a PC with an Nvidia 8800GT has problems running software PS2 emulation, so how about an RSX which is leagues lower than the 8800GT?

people here don't use their heads often. Sony is presenting a way for us to play PS2 games on current- and next-gen consoles because it's much more expensive to shoe in a PS2 or PS3 motherboard in there.

[QUOTE="GIJames248"]

Unless there is some way to put in a physical PS2 game I already own and then play it over the streaming, this is a joke, and a double insult that they have not just developed an emulator by now and released it for free. Good grief, if Microsoft can emulate original xbox games on 360 then the PS3 should have no trouble powering through some PS2 games.

rumbalumba

because software emulation doesn't work for all games, as evidenced by the 80GB Launch PS3 which used part-software emulation and part-hardware. not all games work, even first-party games like God Of War had issues with the cutscenes, etc.

the first Xbox had no games whatsoever compared to the PS2, so problems like this can occur but in a minute amount. you can see consumers will get pissed off if they found out that their PS2 games won't work due to software emulation problems, so it will do more bad for Sony than good. and before you whine more, there's a lot of third-arty games for the PS2 that it would be stupid for Sony to try to fix games they don't own or didn't produce it would cost much more to fix it rather than putting in hardware like the 60GB Launch PS3, which is expensive enough already.

do you really think Sony can't do PS2 emulation on the PS3 because they're so money-hungry? lol. software emulation has problems of its own. the PS2 and PS3 have different architectures, that's why the 60GB Launch PS3 had a built-in PS2 Emotion Engine processor alongside the PS3's Cell processor. a PC with an Nvidia 8800GT has problems running software PS2 emulation, so how about an RSX which is leagues lower than the 8800GT?

people here don't use their heads often. Sony is presenting a way for us to play PS2 games on current- and next-gen consoles because it's much more expensive to shoe in a PS2 or PS3 motherboard in there.

[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

[QUOTE="GIJames248"]

Unless there is some way to put in a physical PS2 game I already own and then play it over the streaming, this is a joke, and a double insult that they have not just developed an emulator by now and released it for free. Good grief, if Microsoft can emulate original xbox games on 360 then the PS3 should have no trouble powering through some PS2 games.

WilliamRLBaker

because software emulation doesn't work for all games, as evidenced by the 80GB Launch PS3 which used part-software emulation and part-hardware. not all games work, even first-party games like God Of War had issues with the cutscenes, etc.

the first Xbox had no games whatsoever compared to the PS2, so problems like this can occur but in a minute amount. you can see consumers will get pissed off if they found out that their PS2 games won't work due to software emulation problems, so it will do more bad for Sony than good. and before you whine more, there's a lot of third-arty games for the PS2 that it would be stupid for Sony to try to fix games they don't own or didn't produce it would cost much more to fix it rather than putting in hardware like the 60GB Launch PS3, which is expensive enough already.

do you really think Sony can't do PS2 emulation on the PS3 because they're so money-hungry? lol. software emulation has problems of its own. the PS2 and PS3 have different architectures, that's why the 60GB Launch PS3 had a built-in PS2 Emotion Engine processor alongside the PS3's Cell processor. a PC with an Nvidia 8800GT has problems running software PS2 emulation, so how about an RSX which is leagues lower than the 8800GT?

people here don't use their heads often. Sony is presenting a way for us to play PS2 games on current- and next-gen consoles because it's much more expensive to shoe in a PS2 or PS3 motherboard in there.

yes, xbox had no games. i was living in Asia and i didn't even know what Halo was, that's how the Xbox was so invisible. oh right, USA = world, right?:roll:

the PS2 classics were code-tested and went through QA, so they work flawlessly and most of the times they're optimized so they run at 60 fps.

you have to uderstand that there's 2,000+ retail PS2 games released. Sony did all the QA for the PS2 classics on PSN. if Sony were to advertise that the PS3 has a feature capable of software emulation, there will be a ton of complaints for numerous bugs and incompatibilities. did you read my post? Sony has to test ALL games and software before they advertise a feature, or else it will be false advertising. get that inside your thick skull.

there's about 80 PS2 classics on PSN right now, which is less than 10% of all PS2 games released. if 80 titles work flawlessly but 1,920 others don't, you think Sony's so stupid to risk that? it takes months to do QA and pass certification. use logic and common sense.