Good vid. His hair is marvelous. Now i want him to do this with the X as well. The X seems like the best console build ever made, so it would interesting to compare the thermals.
"Sony is heavily lacking in its design here" OOF
For reference, Micron rates its GDDR5, GDDR5X and GDDR6 memory chips with a Maximum Junction Temperature (TJ Max or Tjunction Max) of 100C (degrees Celsius). The typical recommended operating temperatures ranges between 0C to 95C. The reading materials on Micron's GDDR6X don't reveal the TJ Max for the new memory chips so there's still a bit of mystery to the topic. According to Igor, the general consent is around 120C before the GDDR6X chips suffer damage.This would mean that the Tjunction value should be set at 105C or up to 110C.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/report-why-the-geforce-rtx-3080s-gddr6x-memory-is-clocked-at-19-gbps
Yeah. Anyone who builds PCs can tell straight away that the PS5 is not thermally optimally designed, hence the necessity of that fancy liquid thermal interface material. I expect some future hardware revisions to mitigate this issue.
And yeah, would be nice to see some tests on the Series X as well. Knowing what I know, I would expect it to do better than the PS5.
Just watched this. SOC thermals seem fine but the memory thermals are pretty bad. Seems the side panels restrict air flow and taking both off definitely help improve temps. Thermal contact to the memory modules needs improvement. Fan is quiet overall with headroom to increase the speed and help with air flow.
Just watched this. SOC thermals seem fine but the memory thermals are pretty bad. Seems the side panels restrict air flow and taking both off definitely help improve temps. Thermal contact to the memory modules needs improvement. Fan is quiet overall with headroom to increase the speed and help with air flow.
Without the side panels 5C cooler on the mem module. Side panels with fins should help.
I told these Sony bum's here this design was bad thought through and they used case temps from a thermal camera to say XSX was hotter.
Sony had to go liquid metal here, 70c on the SOC from a brand new setup with no use... No wonder they put vacuum holes in the design, without them and liquid metal this thing would be hitting 80c with ease.
Horrible one fan design with trapped air due to no ventilation, Good job Sony.
This is why I like Gamer Nexus. Sometimes he throws a bit too much at you, but here he gives a brutally honest review of the thermals and we don't get much of that when it comes to hardware.
The memory may not be going over manufacturer temp limits but it's running too close to those limits which isn't great.
Other than that, Sony seems to have delivered a super quiet, power-efficient system. I'm sure we're going to see improvements listed here in the "Slim" PS5 model.
I just watched this he mentions at the end that they could help offset the heat by ramping up the fan as it has more room to run faster.
But then they would get noise complaints
Sony did say they'd be able to adjust fan curves in future updates. Looks like this was the reason. If they determine that memory temps are getting too hot for certain games, they'll increase the fan speeds. Really though, the PS5 is ridiculously quiet so they have plenty of room to work with if they had to.
This is why I like Gamer Nexus. Sometimes he throws a bit too much at you, but here he gives a brutally honest review of the thermals and we don't get much of that when it comes to hardware.
The memory may not be going over manufacturer temp limits but it's running too close to those limits which isn't great.
Other than that, Sony seems to have delivered a super quiet, power-efficient system. I'm sure we're going to see improvements listed here in the "Slim" PS5 model.
I like Gamer Nexus and all but the problem with Steve's view is, that he believes that 80% of his viewers will change CPU, Motherboards etc.. every 2 to 3 years. I think that 80% of PC gamers are thinking to keep new PC's for more than 5 years, maybe changing GPU only. I am by no means of a PC Enthusiast, I like to keep my parts more then the average 5-10 years if possible but I do upgrade my CPU/GPU when the time is right.
PS5 cooling & power power efficient is fine indeed, I'd be surprise Sony could improve it from the Slim/Pro versions 3/4 years from now.
This is why I like Gamer Nexus. Sometimes he throws a bit too much at you, but here he gives a brutally honest review of the thermals and we don't get much of that when it comes to hardware.
The memory may not be going over manufacturer temp limits but it's running too close to those limits which isn't great.
Other than that, Sony seems to have delivered a super quiet, power-efficient system. I'm sure we're going to see improvements listed here in the "Slim" PS5 model.
I like Gamer Nexus and all but the problem with Steve's view is, that he believes that 80% of his viewers will change CPU, Motherboards etc.. every 2 to 3 years. I think that 80% of PC gamers are thinking to keep new PC's for more than 5 years, maybe changing GPU only. I am by no means of a PC Enthusiast, I like to keep my parts more then the average 5-10 years if possible but I do upgrade my CPU/GPU when the time is right.
PS5 cooling & power power efficient is fine indeed, I'd be surprise Sony could improve it from the Slim/Pro versions 3/4 years from now.
I've been changing my motherboard/CPU/GPU every 2-5 years depending on the market. My last GPU upgrade was about two years ago and it wasn't the top of the line then. So after 2 years either the RX 6800 XT or the RTX 3080 will be a huge bump for me. If not, I'd wait another year.
if its not bricking its running hotter than the devils arsehole
xbox launched too soon as they didn’t have games ready and devs are still learning to use the words most powerful consoles architecture...the ps5 launched too soon because the console is a hot mess....but love struck cows will accept this shit HAH
Can those memory thermals be the cause of this ?
I’ve seen reports of PS5 artifacting / crashing. This usually happens on PC when you overclock things. If you’re seeing this or green screens, you’ll need to return your PS5. https://t.co/0h7UtBq77v
— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) November 22, 2020
This is why I like Gamer Nexus. Sometimes he throws a bit too much at you, but here he gives a brutally honest review of the thermals and we don't get much of that when it comes to hardware.
The memory may not be going over manufacturer temp limits but it's running too close to those limits which isn't great.
Other than that, Sony seems to have delivered a super quiet, power-efficient system. I'm sure we're going to see improvements listed here in the "Slim" PS5 model.
I like Gamer Nexus and all but the problem with Steve's view is, that he believes that 80% of his viewers will change CPU, Motherboards etc.. every 2 to 3 years. I think that 80% of PC gamers are thinking to keep new PC's for more than 5 years, maybe changing GPU only. I am by no means of a PC Enthusiast, I like to keep my parts more then the average 5-10 years if possible but I do upgrade my CPU/GPU when the time is right.
PS5 cooling & power power efficient is fine indeed, I'd be surprise Sony could improve it from the Slim/Pro versions 3/4 years from now.
He was saying in his 3080 review that even 980 Ti owners shouldn't upgrade yet unless they're unhappy with performance, and I think he himself is using a pretty old PC at home. I have no idea where you're getting that idea from.
and here I am trying to get my PC parts in the 40's & 50's at max load to be even lower.
lol consoles.
Lol I used to be like that too, I used to hate when my GPU would hit 60 degrees for some reason. I was weird :/.
@seba20007: FYI GDDR6X isn't the same as GDDR6.
There is no confirmation/spec sheet from the manufacturer.
Allegedly:
According to Igor, the general consent is around 120C before the GDDR6X chips suffer damage.This would mean that the Tjunction value should be set at 105C or up to 110C.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/report-why-the-geforce-rtx-3080s-gddr6x-memory-is-clocked-at-19-gbps
90C(194 for you, Yanks) is pretty hot for G6. Sheesh. Glad I'm waiting for the Slim version. GREATNESS AWAITS. Should've added "GREATNESS IS HOT FOR THE MEMORY TOO", Sony.
Fantastic news! I hope it's also capable of burning some things around it. Not the whole room or house but maybe some flooring.
Please STOP BUYING PS5S! Can't you see how dumb their engineering/design team are? Stop supporting this.
I hope this spreads on social media faster. I hope there are more broken units so people would stop botting the damned thing.
I need a better chance to nab one.
Fantastic news! I hope it's also capable of burning some things around it. Not the whole room or house but maybe some flooring.
Please STOP BUYING PS5S! Can't you see how dumb their engineering/design team are? Stop supporting this.
I hope this spreads on social media faster. I hope there are more broken units so people would stop botting the damned thing.
I need a better chance to nab one.
I was hoping that there was something to this evil post lol!
Fantastic news! I hope it's also capable of burning some things around it. Not the whole room or house but maybe some flooring.
Please STOP BUYING PS5S! Can't you see how dumb their engineering/design team are? Stop supporting this.
I hope this spreads on social media faster. I hope there are more broken units so people would stop botting the damned thing.
I need a better chance to nab one.
I was hoping that there was something to this evil post lol!
It IS evil. Sony that is. Weakass 9.2 tflop, weak launch, next gen lies, bad engineering. Budget went to gimmicks.
Spread the word! Tell the world!
PS5 SUXXXXXX
Now, I hope legit scalpers are willing to go for $ 150 profits only in our area.
Fantastic news! I hope it's also capable of burning some things around it. Not the whole room or house but maybe some flooring.
Please STOP BUYING PS5S! Can't you see how dumb their engineering/design team are? Stop supporting this.
I hope this spreads on social media faster. I hope there are more broken units so people would stop botting the damned thing.
I need a better chance to nab one.
I was hoping that there was something to this evil post lol!
It IS evil. Sony that is. Weakass 9.2 tflop, weak launch, next gen lies, bad engineering. Budget went to gimmicks.
Spread the word! Tell the world!
PS5 SUXXXXXX
Now, I hope legit scalpers are willing to go for $ 150 profits only in our area.
lol
@seba20007: FYI GDDR6X isn't the same as GDDR6.
There is no confirmation/spec sheet from the manufacturer.
Allegedly:
According to Igor, the general consent is around 120C before the GDDR6X chips suffer damage.This would mean that the Tjunction value should be set at 105C or up to 110C.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/report-why-the-geforce-rtx-3080s-gddr6x-memory-is-clocked-at-19-gbps
No, we know that only Nvidia is using GDDR6X.
Also, I don't understand why you repeated yourself.
Has anyone stressed test the PS5 to see if these memory temps are an issue? Also, where is the Series X thermal test?
He hasn't been able to get a Series X yet. He said he would do one if he could get one soon (if he cant get one for a long time then it sounds like he wont bother)
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