Game resolutions

@ShoTTyMcNaDeS: Last gen console fanboys argued over smaller differences than now, and did so for over half a decade. The gen before that was the same as well. What on earth made you think things were going to be different with such an obvious punchline available? Here, on System Wars?

eh? The controversy is that the situation has totally reversed this gen. It blew up itself.

Why do XBox fans insist on comparing the XBone to the PS4, then? If resolution and game performance don't really matter, then why not get in an endless pissing match with the Sheep instead?

I mean, OP is right, but I don't see him trying to measure ye olde E-peen with sheep or talking about exclusives with them whatsoever. It's hard to take the "performance doesn't matter" or "insert random score here" arguments from the Lems lately. The WiiU completely outclasses the current selection of XBone games in numbers and scores.

So, I'm left with the impression that all this whining about resolution battles is a bitch fest over the PS4 than some genuine assertion as to the XBones place in the gaming world.

I laugh at the Consolites trying to fight over Resolutions. Face it you'll never beat the Kings of Gaming. (****)

why is 1080p not standard.

Not at all. Sony fanboys have been touting resolution like it is the end all, be all. Apparently polygons and game play don't mean anything any more. CoD Ghosts plays and pretty much LOOKS the same on both. This resolution issue is about as overblown as it can be.

Much of all. False, that's hyperbole on your part. It's very much in discussion because 360 had superior multiplats in most cases. It's going to get discussed again this gen. Compare that to last gen when 360 owners were drilling Sony fanboys into floor because of it and you've got an interesting turnaround that lights fires when you're pitching console V console.

its 2014 and we get even get 1080p on a 500 dollar console thats just pathetic. I don't care about 60fps even but 1080p is so common place and 720p is only sold on ultra low end tvs.

More res whining.

Don't worry, a 20% CPU boost in two years will fix everything.

I use a TV as a PC monitor. Besides HDMI, why do you think all TVs nowadays have a VGA or DVI port at the back? Check your TV. More than likely it has one and it certainly wasn't put there for consoles.

I haven't bought a PC monitor since 2006.

I don't understand why people seem to think that just because you have a computer you need a monitor. I'm guessing these people never seen the back of the newer tvs or tvs from recent years. Most of them have pc VGA inputs and HDMI. Even if the said tv didn't have a VGA, you could use the HDMI....

Get ready, dude. Here comes "you have low standards" responses. I agree, personally as far as my console games go. No matter the resolution, they look better than anything I had on my PS3/360 so next gen achievement unlocked. And Now that I have a slam banging gaming PC that is blowing my mind with the games I have on steam, I can get a multiplat and outperform the PS4/X1 anytime I want.

Ok but even if resolution is 900p is that not a leap over last gen where as TC pointed out not all games even hit 720p? If the current gen game is 720p, the graphics aren't better than last gen? Its all resolution? Because I haven't seen one PS3/360 game that looks as good as next gen games, regardless of resolution.

LOL lems still living in last gen. Every game with the exception of BF4 is 1080p on PS4. Meanwhile 1080p is the exception on XBone not the norm. Lems and their lowered standards lol.

"b....bu....bu.....but my eyez can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p!!1"

Xbone 720p is weak POS #DEALWITHIT

Well according to many here there is NO EXCUSE to not hit 1080p, and as you yourself said, my PS4 doesn't do so in EVERY game, so by those "standards" its fail. I didn't make the standard. If you aren't 100% there.................how does it go? If you're not first you're last. PC it is

Every LCD TV I've seen since our first one from 2003 have had a DVI and/or a VGA port even before HDMI became standard on them. It also seems unthinkable to many of them that HDTVs can be located elsewhere besides the living room.

To be honest I would happily play a game that looks like it was from the PS2 era as long as it's open ended, has environments that are destructible and that you can interact with, and just overall a great game.

You guys do actual work on an HDTV?

Of course. You do know HDTVs have different modes. Right? Some of them actually suit a PC signal just fine.

yeah i'll do productivity work on my pc at home, connected to a tv.

Because progression.

Graphics vs Gameplay arguments are stupid and are made by people who are butthurt because their game doesn't have both. Because simply having fun is not good enough anymore.

that's a great quote in your sig mate.

This is all the lemmings fault. Last gen all they did was brag about how every multiplat was superior on the 360. So now that Sony has the superior multiplats, Sony fans are rubbing it in their faces.

It's not that 900p isn't good enough, it's that it's not good enough for the more expensive console to have literally every game (bar two) be noticeably inferior. That's the issue.

Anyone who tries to make the problem about the games in general is missing the point.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: No flaming.

screw that guys, why you need to play 3d games, we were perfectly fine playing 2d games in nintendos!

Because of TV and Sports.

And if you want to watch TV and use the computer?

I think you are missing the point. :P

@kitty: am I? I hardly know anyone who uses their computer the way you guys suggest. If you're going to shell out money for a proper gaming rig, how are you not going to get a proper monitor? I also don't know regulars tvs that support higher than 1080p resolution unless you want to early adopt 4k tvs. I rest my case

is this oficially the most pathetic damage control thread ever?

You might hardly know anyone that does it, but that doesn't mean that people don't. If you are going to shell out money for a next gen console you'd better have a good tv am I right? I can do this to. So if you want to include a high priced monitor with the pc parts list, you'd better include the price of a tv with the console. A proper monitor can be 1080p... 1080 is still the standard you know, or am I late to this and 1200, 1440 and 1600 are? I believe those resolutions I mentioned suit a higher end pc more than a proper gaming one. My pc is more than capable of gaming at higher than 1080p, but I choose to keep 1080p because I'm fine with it.

If I had my other TV which is now in my mother in law's room, I would've had PiP. But, my current configuration is now dual-monitor with one of the monitors being a 1080p TV. With a few mouse clicks, I can switch my primary monitor to be the older PC monitor while I switch the 1080p TV from PC mode to TV mode.

As gamers, we should be a cut above the casual crowd techwise. In the meteorology field, we've been using +40" large 1080p monitors (aka HDTV without an ATSC tuner) hooked up to PCs since 2002. We've been doing multi-monitor since the late 90's.

At this stage, I know folks much older than me (in their 70's) who routinely hook up their laptops to their HDTV with a VGA cable. If they can figure that out, I don't see why younger folks can't.

Most games on PC I run at either 2560x1440 on one monitor or 3200x1800 on another monitor i have - depending on the games gpu demands... its sad the "next gen" struggles to do 1080p which has been a common resolution for over a decade now.

When i upgrade my video card at the end of the the year or next, i'll be going a 4k res minimum or above that. And the consoles will still be stuttering at 1080p and the console die hards will still be trying to make excuses for it... a 500 dollar console should be able to do the ancient 1080p resolution without question.

It's going to be hilarious following the console downscaling this "generation."

On upcoming titles it'll be (relative to PC) either 1080, low settings, low draw distance, etc

Or 720 again, medium settings, low draw distance.

We're going to witness massive smoke and mirrors as the devs try to outsmart the peasants this gen.

My rule is that if the game doesn't have 2560x1440, 60fps(minimum), good AA, precise and responsive controls, and large FOV is not worth playing.

As years pass standards rise (you ask for more every time). Also I didn't mention graphics, what I mean with my above statement is what I care for good gameplay and sharp image quality.

Let me break it down: (2560x1440, 60fps(minimum), good AA, precise and responsive controls, and large FOV)

• 2560x1440 = sharp image quality
• 60fps(minimum) = greatly affects gameplay, more fluidity in your movements, more responsive controls, etc
• good AA = to have a clean image
• precise and responsive controls = k/m with the combination of 60fps offers the best precision and responsiveness making the gameplay better.
• large FOV = you can see more of the environment as result a better understanding of your surrounding objects, therefor contribute to a better gamplay.

basically I prefer to play a game with good gameplay and with bad graphics(as long as it is sharp and clean) than the opposite.

game resolution is the most important part of a game imo, unless i can play it at 1080p i may as well not play it but it just appears to be a big blur to my eyes. thankfull sony listened and designed the ps4 around my needs.

#sdc

#1080p or death

Is it so hard to clean up the quote-tree?

Anyway, I can watch TV in a window on my PC if I so choose.

what about all of those people who have a PS4 and a 720p HDTV?? Are they playing in 1080p??? Does that lessen the experience for someone who is playing Infamous? Id say no! Ryse is a damn good looking at at 900p as is BF4 on the PS4? Neither of those hit 1080p and are two of the best looking new games and destroy anything from last gen!

Yes it does lessen the experience.

why do console gamers ignore the fact that they have to buy a television. stupid arguement is stupid. Periperals are cheap. and that is still not even over a $1000.

just stop.

If I wanted to get the most of PC gaming this gen, it would cost a lot more than $700. Otherwise, you're pretty much getting the same experience. And that includes a good gaming monitor, not some $120 crap from Microcenter.

Don't you think that's apples and oranges? We're in a post PC world where PC sales have been on the decline. Most people can do what they need to do on a tablet and smartphone. They already have TVs. Buying a whole new desktop for a hobby like gaming or video editing comes with significant costs if you want the best out of it.

pc sales has been on decline because you needed a desktop pc for everything, now it gets divided into laptops tablets and gaming pcs, so thanks for stating the obvious. People who bought powerful pc to game back then will continue to do so.