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#1  Edited By texasgoldrush
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http://www.game-debate.com/awards/2015

Voted by gamers, not by critics or staff.

The Witcher 3 wins big, Life Is Strange a strong second.......Fallout 4 and MGS V do poorly in GOTY voting.

Paradox best publisher, CDPR best developer.

Pillars of Eternity barely upset TW3 for best RPG, despite TW3 massive GOTY win.

Life is Strange crushes Tales From the Borderlands for best adventure game, wins best new original game as well.

FIFA 16 beats PES 16, despite what critics say, licensing matters.

Battlefront somehow won best shooter, but the category was weak this year.

Mass Effect Andromeda most anticipated.

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#2 blamix99
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Nice!! Witcher 3 deserves it

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#3 Epak_
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I've voted for TW3 in every GOTY voting that has come up. It deservers it.

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#4  Edited By FattyMacFatCat
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lolz Best early access? This a genre now? glad to see DayZ isn't on there or in survival category.

Wisha 3 deserves all it's getting

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#5 mems_1224
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Didn't you already make a thread about these shit no name awards?

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#6 CinematicGalore
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lol, where's Demon Soul's 1.5 cows? lol

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#7 lglz1337
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witcher 3 good game yes

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#8  Edited By lglz1337
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@cinematicgalore said:

lol, where's Demon Soul's 1.5 cows? lol

halo 5 not even nominated LOL

and these awards are more pc focused

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#9 Vaasman
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I've never even heard of this site, why should I care?

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#10 mems_1224
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@Vaasman: because it agrees with texasderprush's opinions!

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#11 silversix_
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tw3 needs to win everything in 2015, this is the game with the most effort put into it.

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#12 texasgoldrush
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@cinematicgalore said:

lol, where's Demon Soul's 1.5 cows? lol

to be fair, its a pc gamer oriented site.

@Vaasman said:

I've never even heard of this site, why should I care?

but 6 million voters now have, so you have been under a rock.

@mems_1224 said:

@Vaasman: because it agrees with texasderprush's opinions!

But it shows I am right...once again, no one gives a shit about MGSV being GOTY.

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#14  Edited By Vaasman
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@texasgoldrush said:

@Vaasman said:

I've never even heard of this site, why should I care?

but 6 million voters now have, so you have been under a rock.

Sorry but I vehemently refuse to believe that's a real number of actual people. Just looking at the rest of the site's user activity I can tell it's probably hasn't even had 6 million unique users across it's lifespan.

Seriously, most of their reviews get 5-10 comments. Articles get maybe 15-20. "Likes" barely even register, sometimes it isn't even 10 per article. The comments themselves get, at the highest, maybe a couple hundred votes from others. Their forum doesn't even have 15k posts across the site's entire life. And now I'm supposed to believe it's getting not just traffic, but actual user contribution, in the millions? Come the **** on.

What exactly is the site deciding is 'activity' is the real question, because there's no fucking way in hell it's individual people. My guess is they're tracking per vote or vote+page view, or hit across the entire site for the entire length of the voting process. That or it's just a bunch of bots and padding.

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#15 texasgoldrush
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@Vaasman said:
@texasgoldrush said:
@Vaasman said:

I've never even heard of this site, why should I care?

but 6 million voters now have, so you have been under a rock.

Sorry but I vehemently refuse to believe that's a real number of actual people. Just looking at the rest of the site's user activity I can tell it's probably hasn't even had 6 million unique users across it's lifespan.

Seriously, most of their reviews get 5-10 comments. Articles get maybe 15-20. "Likes" barely even register, sometimes it isn't even 10 per article. The comments themselves get, at the highest, maybe a couple hundred votes from others. Their forum doesn't even have 15k posts across the site's entire life. And now I'm supposed to believe it's getting not just traffic, but actual user contribution, in the millions? Come the **** on.

What exactly is the site deciding is 'activity' is the real question, because there's no fucking way in hell it's individual people. My guess is they're tracking per vote or vote+page view, or hit across the entire site for the entire length of the voting process. That or it's just a bunch of bots and padding.

And you don't believe that while normally people do not visit the site, a GOTY hook would get them over to vote?

Second, they did not let me vote again or count repeat votes. Areas where I voted were checked.

Third, the results are very similar to what went on in the gamer polled Golden Joysticks....The Witcher 3 dominated, Life Is Strange did very well, MGSV did not do so well.

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#16 mems_1224
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@texasgoldrush: what's your point exactly? People like the witcher 3, that's not news.guess what? People like mgsv too. Just because mgsv didn't get goty votes on a shit site no one has ever heard of doesn't make it a bad game. There were a lot of great games this year.

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#17 texasgoldrush
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@mems_1224 said:

@texasgoldrush: what's your point exactly? People like the witcher 3, that's not news.guess what? People like mgsv too. Just because mgsv didn't get goty votes on a shit site no one has ever heard of doesn't make it a bad game. There were a lot of great games this year.

But it doesn't make it a 10/10 GOTY.

There are clear reasons why its not winning. The game has some major flaws and controversies and really it divided the Metal Gear fanbase. It doesn't deserve to win.

More people like TW3 better than MGSV.

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#18 mems_1224
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@texasgoldrush: witcher 3 shouldn't be a 10/10 either by your logic. Why aren't you butthurt about that? The GS review is just one dudes opinion. Witcher 3 had major flaws as well. Hell, there were save corrupting bugs and they had to completely redo the movement and inventorylogic among other things. You can't bitch about one games flaws while being ignorant of the game you like more. Just because everyone gives the witcher a pass for all it's flaws doesn't make you right about anything.

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#19  Edited By texasgoldrush
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@mems_1224 said:

@texasgoldrush: witcher 3 shouldn't be a 10/10 either by your logic. Why aren't you butthurt about that? The GS review is just one dudes opinion. Witcher 3 had major flaws as well. Hell, there were save corrupting bugs and they had to completely redo the movement and inventorylogic among other things. You can't bitch about one games flaws while being ignorant of the game you like more. Just because everyone gives the witcher a pass for all it's flaws doesn't make you right about anything.

I don't give it a 10/10....but its flaws are no where near in the league of MGSV's where the game had severe game structure problems and looked to be unfinished on release. Second, CDPR was very good at fixing the problems and rebalancing their game, which Konami may not be able to do the same with MGSV. Third, The Witcher 3 is the sum of its parts, MGSV is not.

The Witcher 3 didn't divide the fans, MGSV did......and it got beaten again by Life Is Strange, which had a killer attach rate.

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#20 mems_1224
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@texasgoldrush: witcher 3 was basically unfinished as well. Not only that but they cut content and redistributed it as "free" dlc to earn brownie points. What are the sum of witchers parts? Because from a game play standpoint MGSV obliterates Witcher 3.

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#21  Edited By texasgoldrush
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@mems_1224 said:

@texasgoldrush: witcher 3 was basically unfinished as well. Not only that but they cut content and redistributed it as "free" dlc to earn brownie points. What are the sum of witchers parts? Because from a game play standpoint MGSV obliterates Witcher 3.

So basically, armor packs, a couple non essential side quests, and alternate costumes for the women are equal level to a third of the game being rehashed with scenes cut? Get real.

Shooting and sneaking maybe, but there is more to gameplay than just combat. Combat only makes a third of The Witcher 3's gameplay. And game structure is part of gameplay and MGSV's is a mess. The mission design and open world design is subpar. And the bosses are no where near what the series was famous for.

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#22  Edited By Gagomkd
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Witcher 3 wins GOTY.

Paradox wins best publisher.

Mass Effect Andromeda is the most anticipated game.

Everything is as it should be.

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@texasgoldrush: the mission design in witcher isn't much better. The monster contracts get super old and repetitive. Sure, the writing is better much most of the missions boil down to "follow these tracks then kill some shit". The combat is subpar, so is character progression. I've never played an RPG where leveling up was so boring. Not to mention that if you don't do missions in a specific order you over level and don't get xp. That would be bad enough but you could be 20 hours into the game and then find a low level quest you missed and have no reason to do it. Thats not good game design.

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#24  Edited By texasgoldrush
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@mems_1224 said:

@texasgoldrush: the mission design in witcher isn't much better. The monster contracts get super old and repetitive. Sure, the writing is better much most of the missions boil down to "follow these tracks then kill some shit". The combat is subpar, so is character progression. I've never played an RPG where leveling up was so boring. Not to mention that if you don't do missions in a specific order you over level and don't get xp. That would be bad enough but you could be 20 hours into the game and then find a low level quest you missed and have no reason to do it. Thats not good game design.

The monster contracts are varied, with some having unpredictable conclusions. Not so with MGSV's side ops which are banal UbiShit style missions.

The combat is well done, and harder difficulties rely on you to prepare for the fight. You are overselling your argument. Same with character progression, you just don't like it. I play the green tree and it allows me so many options to give Geralt abilities through potions and decoctions.

Some quests, outleveling them is a problem, but its simply not a major problem. Not as major as you are making it out to be.

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#25 L0ngshot
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Lol not even a contest. The Witcher 3 hands down best game of 2015!

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#26  Edited By Vaasman
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@texasgoldrush said:

And you don't believe that while normally people do not visit the site, a GOTY hook would get them over to vote?

Second, they did not let me vote again or count repeat votes. Areas where I voted were checked.

Third, the results are very similar to what went on in the gamer polled Golden Joysticks....The Witcher 3 dominated, Life Is Strange did very well, MGSV did not do so well.

Believe what you want but this website is a sham, and this award is equally as worthless. You're only picking this shit up because they'll agree with the annoying opinions you can't shut up about.

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@texasgoldrush Yo, did Kojima sleep with your girlfriend or something? You seem to have an obsessive hatred for MGSV.

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Hmm no Bloodborne? Oh well, it's my game if the year and its gameplay clowns the games that got the top spots.

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#29 Mr_Huggles_dog
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All I know is that I even during the tutorial combat sequence for TW3...I had fun.

Had to stop right after getting to the tavern and can't really dive into right now.

If it keeps going like this it might take over MGSV or Rocket League for my GOTY.

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#30  Edited By texasgoldrush
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@Vaasman said:
@texasgoldrush said:

And you don't believe that while normally people do not visit the site, a GOTY hook would get them over to vote?

Second, they did not let me vote again or count repeat votes. Areas where I voted were checked.

Third, the results are very similar to what went on in the gamer polled Golden Joysticks....The Witcher 3 dominated, Life Is Strange did very well, MGSV did not do so well.

Believe what you want but this website is a sham, and this award is equally as worthless. You're only picking this shit up because they'll agree with the annoying opinions you can't shut up about.

or how about you just don't like the results so you attack the website's credibility? Oh how about that there was a similar voting pattern here as there was in the Golden Joysticks Awards, which are well known?

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#31 texasgoldrush
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@drinkerofjuice said:

@texasgoldrush Yo, did Kojima sleep with your girlfriend or something? You seem to have an obsessive hatred for MGSV.

Because its a very stupid game that represents everything wrong with the game industry....rushed out unfinished games, microtranscations, repetitive UbiShit style mission design, and stupid storytelling.

@Pikminmaniac said:

Hmm no Bloodborne? Oh well, it's my game if the year and its gameplay clowns the games that got the top spots.

It is a PC gamer oriented site, so console exclusives do less well.

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Bloodborne and MGSV were better games than The Witcher 3.

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Bloodborne

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#34  Edited By Vaasman
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@texasgoldrush said:
@Vaasman said:
@texasgoldrush said:

And you don't believe that while normally people do not visit the site, a GOTY hook would get them over to vote?

Second, they did not let me vote again or count repeat votes. Areas where I voted were checked.

Third, the results are very similar to what went on in the gamer polled Golden Joysticks....The Witcher 3 dominated, Life Is Strange did very well, MGSV did not do so well.

Believe what you want but this website is a sham, and this award is equally as worthless. You're only picking this shit up because they'll agree with the annoying opinions you can't shut up about.

or how about you just don't like the results so you attack the website's credibility? Oh how about that there was a similar voting pattern here as there was in the Golden Joysticks Awards, which are well known?

I literally said nothing about what I think of the results themselves, get your head out of your ass please. I don't care one way or the other about the results, I care that you're over-inflating the importance of the results of suspiciously high user entered votes on a ghost website that isn't this website, simply because you're desperate to validate your inflammatory rhetoric.

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#35 texasgoldrush
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@Vaasman said:
@texasgoldrush said:
@Vaasman said:
@texasgoldrush said:

And you don't believe that while normally people do not visit the site, a GOTY hook would get them over to vote?

Second, they did not let me vote again or count repeat votes. Areas where I voted were checked.

Third, the results are very similar to what went on in the gamer polled Golden Joysticks....The Witcher 3 dominated, Life Is Strange did very well, MGSV did not do so well.

Believe what you want but this website is a sham, and this award is equally as worthless. You're only picking this shit up because they'll agree with the annoying opinions you can't shut up about.

or how about you just don't like the results so you attack the website's credibility? Oh how about that there was a similar voting pattern here as there was in the Golden Joysticks Awards, which are well known?

I literally said nothing about what I think of the results themselves, get your head out of your ass please. I don't care one way or the other about the results, I care that you're over-inflating the importance of the results of suspiciously high user entered votes on a ghost website that isn't this website, simply because you're desperate to validate your inflammatory rhetoric.

So what makes it a ghost website? It is you that is talking out of your ass. It is you that wants so badly to disregard this so you can bash me.

Game Debate is a PC oriented gaming site with emphasis on hardware, its not a fucking ghost site. It may not have the traffic of Gamespot or IGN, but its a legit game site.

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#36 mems_1224
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@texasgoldrush said:
@Vaasman said:
@texasgoldrush said:
@Vaasman said:
@texasgoldrush said:

And you don't believe that while normally people do not visit the site, a GOTY hook would get them over to vote?

Second, they did not let me vote again or count repeat votes. Areas where I voted were checked.

Third, the results are very similar to what went on in the gamer polled Golden Joysticks....The Witcher 3 dominated, Life Is Strange did very well, MGSV did not do so well.

Believe what you want but this website is a sham, and this award is equally as worthless. You're only picking this shit up because they'll agree with the annoying opinions you can't shut up about.

or how about you just don't like the results so you attack the website's credibility? Oh how about that there was a similar voting pattern here as there was in the Golden Joysticks Awards, which are well known?

I literally said nothing about what I think of the results themselves, get your head out of your ass please. I don't care one way or the other about the results, I care that you're over-inflating the importance of the results of suspiciously high user entered votes on a ghost website that isn't this website, simply because you're desperate to validate your inflammatory rhetoric.

So what makes it a ghost website? It is you that is talking out of your ass. It is you that wants so badly to disregard this so you can bash me.

Game Debate is a PC oriented gaming site with emphasis on hardware, its not a fucking ghost site. It may not have the traffic of Gamespot or IGN, but its a legit game site.

So why should we take the opinions of a website that ignores 3/4 of the industry seriously before the year is even over. seems like they're inflating their numbers

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#37 texasgoldrush
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@mems_1224 said:
@texasgoldrush said:
@Vaasman said:
@texasgoldrush said:
@Vaasman said:

Believe what you want but this website is a sham, and this award is equally as worthless. You're only picking this shit up because they'll agree with the annoying opinions you can't shut up about.

or how about you just don't like the results so you attack the website's credibility? Oh how about that there was a similar voting pattern here as there was in the Golden Joysticks Awards, which are well known?

I literally said nothing about what I think of the results themselves, get your head out of your ass please. I don't care one way or the other about the results, I care that you're over-inflating the importance of the results of suspiciously high user entered votes on a ghost website that isn't this website, simply because you're desperate to validate your inflammatory rhetoric.

So what makes it a ghost website? It is you that is talking out of your ass. It is you that wants so badly to disregard this so you can bash me.

Game Debate is a PC oriented gaming site with emphasis on hardware, its not a fucking ghost site. It may not have the traffic of Gamespot or IGN, but its a legit game site.

So why should we take the opinions of a website that ignores 3/4 of the industry seriously before the year is even over. seems like they're inflating their numbers

How is that opinions of a website? What if many of their numbers aren't users of the website that came in to vote because of a GOTY contest? That seems to be the likely scenario to me.

They did have a best console award as well so they aren't ignoring consoles. And GTA V won their 2013 poll despite not having a PC release at that time.

The fact is that its inconvenient to you, so you want to ignore it.

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#38 worknow222
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Witcher 3 deserves to win in every category its in but losing the best RPG of the year and best expansion WHAT!! witcher 3 was by far the best RPG of the year and the expansion has a better story and characters than 90% of full retailed games I mean old blood is great but Hearts of stone shits over it in terms of quality. But hey it still won a lot of awards which is good but man it needed all of em damn it.

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#39  Edited By FattyMacFatCat
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game-debate GOTY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some nobody GameSpot poster Vaasman "opinion"

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#40 Vaasman
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@fattymacfatcat said:

game-debate GOTY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some nobody GameSpot poster Vaasman "opinion"

Too afraid to say so on your main I take it?

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#41  Edited By mems_1224
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@texasgoldrush said:
@mems_1224 said:
@texasgoldrush said:
@Vaasman said:

I literally said nothing about what I think of the results themselves, get your head out of your ass please. I don't care one way or the other about the results, I care that you're over-inflating the importance of the results of suspiciously high user entered votes on a ghost website that isn't this website, simply because you're desperate to validate your inflammatory rhetoric.

So what makes it a ghost website? It is you that is talking out of your ass. It is you that wants so badly to disregard this so you can bash me.

Game Debate is a PC oriented gaming site with emphasis on hardware, its not a fucking ghost site. It may not have the traffic of Gamespot or IGN, but its a legit game site.

So why should we take the opinions of a website that ignores 3/4 of the industry seriously before the year is even over. seems like they're inflating their numbers

How is that opinions of a website? What if many of their numbers aren't users of the website that came in to vote because of a GOTY contest? That seems to be the likely scenario to me.

They did have a best console award as well so they aren't ignoring consoles. And GTA V won their 2013 poll despite not having a PC release at that time.

The fact is that its inconvenient to you, so you want to ignore it.

again, they're ignoring 3/4 of the market for the most part. when you have battlefront and hardline both in your best shooters category then its not a credible source. gta and battlefront are both top 2 in best multiplayer when games like halo 5 and spaltoon exist. this site, its awards and users are a fucking joke and not credible at all. get over yourself. just because you got your opinions from the dummies there doesn't mean anything to anyone.

need for speed won best racer. rise of the tomb raider is the most anticipated game for 2016 and its already fucking out. the steam controller and witcher 3 are best innovators, what exactly did they innovate? nvidia shield beat wii u in the best console category. man, this is just a shit show. im lmao reading this.

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Now is a good time to get The Witcher 3 1/2 off, but somethings tells me I'm gonna find it overrated garbage like The Witcher 2.

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lol online polls, aka popularity contests.

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#44  Edited By mems_1224
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@lamprey263 said:

Now is a good time to get The Witcher 3 1/2 off, but somethings tells me I'm gonna find it overrated garbage like The Witcher 2.

it is a lot better than witcher 2. i thought witcher 2 was super boring.

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@mems_1224 said:
@texasgoldrush said:
@mems_1224 said:
@texasgoldrush said:
@Vaasman said:

I literally said nothing about what I think of the results themselves, get your head out of your ass please. I don't care one way or the other about the results, I care that you're over-inflating the importance of the results of suspiciously high user entered votes on a ghost website that isn't this website, simply because you're desperate to validate your inflammatory rhetoric.

So what makes it a ghost website? It is you that is talking out of your ass. It is you that wants so badly to disregard this so you can bash me.

Game Debate is a PC oriented gaming site with emphasis on hardware, its not a fucking ghost site. It may not have the traffic of Gamespot or IGN, but its a legit game site.

So why should we take the opinions of a website that ignores 3/4 of the industry seriously before the year is even over. seems like they're inflating their numbers

How is that opinions of a website? What if many of their numbers aren't users of the website that came in to vote because of a GOTY contest? That seems to be the likely scenario to me.

They did have a best console award as well so they aren't ignoring consoles. And GTA V won their 2013 poll despite not having a PC release at that time.

The fact is that its inconvenient to you, so you want to ignore it.

again, they're ignoring 3/4 of the market for the most part. when you have battlefront and hardline both in your best shooters category then its not a credible source. gta and battlefront are both top 2 in best multiplayer when games like halo 5 and spaltoon exist. this site, its awards and users are a fucking joke and not credible at all. get over yourself. just because you got your opinions from the dummies there doesn't mean anything to anyone.

need for speed won best racer. rise of the tomb raider is the most anticipated game for 2016 and its already fucking out. the steam controller and witcher 3 are best innovators, what exactly did they innovate? nvidia shield beat wii u in the best console category. man, this is just a shit show. im lmao reading this.

What did Witcher 3 innovate? It tells you on the site.....side quests with the same quality as the main game. GTA V won best multiplayer at Golden Joysticks, and has millions of players. its no slouch.

They don't ignore 3/4's of the industry.....GTA V once again, won in 2013 without a PC release.

Mass Effect Andromeda won most anticipated game, actually. The Rise of the Tomb Raider is for the PC version as is GTA V for 2015 GOTY.

Wii U is a failure, its not going to get votes.

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@texasgoldrush: again, why should we care about what a biased community thinks about games?

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@mems_1224 said:

@texasgoldrush: again, why should we care about what a biased community thinks about games?

even if there was less PC bias...would that stop The Witcher 3 from getting the most votes? Or Life is Strange from doing well?

No, it would not.

The top two games are multiplatform games.

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#48  Edited By mems_1224
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@texasgoldrush: so you admit it's bias. Great. Why should we care what they think?

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Dafuq is Life is Strange?

The Witcher 3 is well deserving tho.

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@cinematicgalore said:

lol, where's Demon Soul's 1.5 cows? lol

Well done.