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#1  Edited By bezza2011
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http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/11/04/first-forza-5-car-pack-puts-you-in-a-ferrari-at-launch.aspx

"Last week, we reported on the Forza Motorsport 5 Car Pass and the 60 additional motor vehicles it will bring to the title post-launch. Today, Microsoft has given some more details, including the price and the DLC schedule.

The Forza Motorsport 5 Car Pass will be priced at $49.99 and offer a reported 18 percent savings over purchasing a la carte. As that doesn’t calculate out to an even amount for the six packs, we’re left to believe that they won’t all be priced the same.

The first will be available alongside the game and console launch on November 22. The first of the ten included cars, the LaFerrari. This vehicle sports a 950 horsepower engine, and only 499 of them will be made (digital versions are unlimited, however). "

So we see that this is why Forza 5 can be 1080p 60fps, due to most cars not being in the retail game but in a car pass DLC which will save to your harddrive and shouldn't muck up the main game stuff.

if this isn't proof microsoft isn't after all your money and are passionate about gaming this is it.

(sorry if this has been reported not seen anything of it tho.)

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#2 Sweenix
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lol

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#3  Edited By Krelian-co
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you can play with the 5 cars retail game comes with.

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#4  Edited By PrincessGomez92
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Scandalous.

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#5  Edited By Muffin2020
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The first will be available alongside the game and console launch on November 22. The first of the ten included cars, the LaFerrari. This vehicle sports a 950 horsepower engine, and only 499 of them will be made (digital versions are unlimited, however). "

Day 1 DLC you shameless *****

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This is one of the few things i hate about Forza games: the overpriced dlc. Forza Horizon charged £20 just for the rally expansion, which only came with up to 5 cars

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#7 bezza2011
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It is absolutely unacceptable. there basicly already telling you that they have took out a load of cars from the game so you have to spend $49.99 on top of the game itself so your looking at a $100 price tag to get the full game, they is no defending it, if they can release a dlc alongside the game then that means it is ready for the game but because they want more money you have to buy them.

This is why Microsoft to me is only after my money and doesn't actually care for the consumer who buys there console.

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#8  Edited By freedomfreak
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$49.99?

What the blueberry ****?

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#9 inggrish
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$49.99?

What the blueberry ****?

Dat 18% saving though! Would be $61 for them 60 extra cars otherwise!

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#10 freedomfreak
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Dat 18% saving though! Would be $61 for them 60 extra cars otherwise!

Oh wow! Major value here!

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#11  Edited By inggrish
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@freedomfreak said:
@_Matt_ said:

Dat 18% saving though! Would be $61 for them 60 extra cars otherwise!

Oh wow! Major value here!

Haha. Oh man, just depressing how expensive this dlc is.

There were bits of dlc I wanted for Forza 4 and Horizon, but they were always just far too expensive also :( .

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#12 SonySoldier-_-
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What a rip off. The game looks like a s s in the first place and now they want to charge you with over priced DLC that should have been in the game from the start.

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#13 freedomfreak
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@_Matt_ said:

Haha. Oh man, just depressing how expensive this dlc is.

There were bits of dlc I wanted for Forza 4 and Horizon, but they were always just far too expensive also :( .

Yeah, **** that shit. Not to mention that this is launch DLC.

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#14 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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This has happened with most Forza games so nothing new here (still awful though) but the bigger problem is the amount of money that the racing wheel costs. I have an official MS 360 wheel that is worth quite a lot of money now but I wouldn't be able to use it with the One

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@freedomfreak said:
@_Matt_ said:

Haha. Oh man, just depressing how expensive this dlc is.

There were bits of dlc I wanted for Forza 4 and Horizon, but they were always just far too expensive also :( .

Yeah, **** that shit. Not to mention that this is launch DLC.

Aye. Who is likely spearheading such a nasty direction with the dlc though? Would it be the publisher, or the developer?

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#16 freedomfreak
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@_Matt_ said:

Aye. Who is likely spearheading such a nasty direction with the dlc though? Would it be the publisher, or the developer?

Isn't it usually the publisher? I really don't know.

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#17 Krelian-co
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microsoft is so nice, they are giving you the chance of buying the game in 2 different payments, one of $60 and one of $50. Thank you microsoft for cutting useless stuff like 60 cars from a car game so people can buy them after.

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#18 Heil68
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Forza has always had a ton of DLC.

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#19 inggrish
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@freedomfreak said:
@_Matt_ said:

Aye. Who is likely spearheading such a nasty direction with the dlc though? Would it be the publisher, or the developer?

Isn't it usually the publisher? I really don't know.

Well that's what I would have thought; but day 1 dlc almost sounds like a developer choice. Who knows.

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#20 bezza2011
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@_Matt_ said:

@freedomfreak said:
@_Matt_ said:

Haha. Oh man, just depressing how expensive this dlc is.

There were bits of dlc I wanted for Forza 4 and Horizon, but they were always just far too expensive also :( .

Yeah, **** that shit. Not to mention that this is launch DLC.

Aye. Who is likely spearheading such a nasty direction with the dlc though? Would it be the publisher, or the developer?

Well seeing as tho Microsoft own the company behind Forza I'd say Microsoft planted the idea in the first place which makes extra money and the fact is there are people out there stupid enough to buy the extra pack, and there will be more people buying the DLC because half the cars aren't in the game so you need to buy the cars. and lets not forget, your paying $49.99 to get the season pass, the dlc which comes out at launch is 1 car, then the other cars or dlc's will be released later, which means you either pay a premium cost for 1 dlc or 49.99 for all of them. money making ways it is

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#21 dogfather76
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Pathetic. DLC day one is about the worst thing in gaming.

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#22 heretrix
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1 dollar a car? Holy shit how am I supposed to eat?

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#23  Edited By AtariKidX
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Pathetic.........XBone 720.....lol

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To make this a little more system wars worthy, a comparison of last Forza game with GT5 for dlc at todays prices:

Forza HorizonPriceGran TurismoPrice
Base Game£17.99Base Game XL edition£11.70
Preorder car pack£3.39(all dlc included)
Rally Expansion Pack (contains 5 cars)£13.49

VIP car pack

Season Pass (~40 cars, does not include any of the above)

Possibly more. Total:

£6.75

£33.99

£75.61

Total:

£11.70

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#25  Edited By HadOne2Many
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DLC is nothing new for Forza (even day one DLC). The only real question is how much content will there be in the vanilla version. To be honest cars aren't really a concern for me. I have always ended up with dozens of cars in my garage that had 0 miles on them. FM4 got me to drive more than the previous versions because of the Rivals events, but even then I probably only drove maybe 10% of what was available.

Tracks are what I'm interested in, and with the rumor going around that the Ring will be January DLC I'm starting to get worried. Apparently the embargo ends tomorrow for the big press event from last week so we should know soon.

EDIT: just to be clear, I do not support the car pass and I will not be buying it. If there is a car I must have, I'll buy just that car. If there is a pack with multiple cars I want, I may consider the entire pack. But for the most part I won't buy much of it.

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#26 adamosmaki
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as opposed to Sony that isnt after your money and releasing a demo of Gt5 called prologue for $40?

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#27 FinalFighters
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so the base game is $60? and the DLC is $50?

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#28  Edited By ShepardCommandr
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Are you fucking kidding me? 60 cars as dlc for $49.99.

This has to,has to be a joke.

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#29  Edited By timbers_WSU
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Yeah Turn 10 can eat a dick. I have never bought a car as DLC and never will. I am really starting to wonder about AtariKidX. He doesn't exactly troll but he still is completely ignorant to basically every thread he post in. Has anyone ever seen him make a real post?

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#30 HadOne2Many
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@ShepardCommandr said:

Are you fucking kidding me? 60 cars as dlc for $49.99.

This has to,has to be a joke.

Nope they're serious. Look at Matt's chart, they pulled the same BS with Horizon.

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#31  Edited By bezza2011
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@heretrix said:

1 dollar a car? Holy shit how am I supposed to eat?

The point is All these cars were ready at launch, your not going to tell me that they didn't make the cars while making the game.

a dollar a car, it's a digital car which should of been in the game, it's a practice we've just come to accept when this shouldn't happen.

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#32  Edited By Locutus_Picard
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Lems crying about a $100 purchase to get the full Forza 5 experience. You deserved this.

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#33  Edited By k2theswiss
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that some serious OP...

W/E i don't understand people buying cars in ANY car game...

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@Locutus_Picard said:

Lems crying about a $100 purchase to get the full Forza 5 experience. You deserved this.

HOW does any kind of gamer deserve to have to pay double in order to get the full game?

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#35  Edited By HadOne2Many
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@Locutus_Picard said:

Lems crying about a $100 purchese to get the full Forza 5 experience. You deserved this.

I don't see any crying in this thread. Grownups are allowed to look at things rational and call out the BS when we see it. We also have a habit of voting with out wallets (in this case, simply not buying the season pass). Mistaking that for crying shows a certain level of immaturity.

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#36  Edited By k2theswiss
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@bezza2011 said:

@heretrix said:

1 dollar a car? Holy shit how am I supposed to eat?

The point is All these cars were ready at launch, your not going to tell me that they didn't make the cars while making the game.

a dollar a car, it's a digital car which should of been in the game, it's a practice we've just come to accept when this shouldn't happen.

who knows if the cars is already made? just like any map pack or expansion or w/e Either way You do know there has to be a content cut off point in production, games usually need around 3 weeks to ship out and be at stores. You don't just lay off your entire crew. You put them to work

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#37 Locutus_Picard
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@_Matt_ said:

@Locutus_Picard said:

Lems crying about a $100 purchase to get the full Forza 5 experience. You deserved this.

HOW does any kind of gamer deserve to have to pay double in order to get the full game?

I made threads about Horizon doing this, it was not bad "cuz it is a good game". They bought into it and now Turn 10 is doing even worse things. People need to wake up, this is cut content.

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@Locutus_Picard said:

@_Matt_ said:

@Locutus_Picard said:

Lems crying about a $100 purchase to get the full Forza 5 experience. You deserved this.

HOW does any kind of gamer deserve to have to pay double in order to get the full game?

I made threads about Horizon doing this, it was not bad "cuz it is a good game". They bought into it and now Turn 10 is doing even worse things. People need to wake up, this is cut content.

Well that was blindness and stupidity. I love Forza Horizon as much as most, if not more (actually, my favourite 360 exclusive of the entire gen); but I'm not stupid enough to go out and buy the overpriced dlc; as much as I want the rally events.

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#39  Edited By bezza2011
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@k2theswiss said:

@bezza2011 said:

@heretrix said:

1 dollar a car? Holy shit how am I supposed to eat?

The point is All these cars were ready at launch, your not going to tell me that they didn't make the cars while making the game.

a dollar a car, it's a digital car which should of been in the game, it's a practice we've just come to accept when this shouldn't happen.

who knows if the cars is already made? just like any map pack or expansion or w/e Either way You do know there has to be a content cut off point in production, games usually need around 3 weeks to ship out and be at stores. You don't just lay off your entire crew. You put them to work

What so your telling me a DLC pack full of 60cars couldn't of been added in when the first lot come out day1 are you mad, of course they were in the game, it's a way of making money, when ever did you see a game in the passed before all this dlc leave out big name cars, you didn't you got the full game in one go.

it's an easy way of making extra money.

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@HadOne2Many said:

@Locutus_Picard said:

Lems crying about a $100 purchese to get the full Forza 5 experience. You deserved this.

I don't see any crying in this thread. Grownups are allowed to look at things rational and call out the BS when we see it. We also have a habit of voting with out wallets (in this case, simply not buying the season pass). Mistaking that for crying shows a certain level of immaturity.

By buying Forza 5, you're effectively OK with cut content and you give the message you're willing to pay $50 for half a game.

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@_Matt_ said:

To make this a little more system wars worthy, a comparison of last Forza game with GT5 for dlc at todays prices:

Forza HorizonPriceGran TurismoPrice
Base Game£17.99Base Game XL edition£11.70
Preorder car pack£3.39(all dlc included)
Rally Expansion Pack (contains 5 cars)£13.49

VIP car pack

Season Pass (~40 cars, does not include any of the above)

Possibly more. Total:

£6.75

£33.99

£75.61

Total:

£11.70

Hahaha marvelous!

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@_Matt_ said:

To make this a little more system wars worthy, a comparison of last Forza game with GT5 for dlc at todays prices:

Forza HorizonPriceGran TurismoPrice
Base Game£17.99Base Game XL edition£11.70
Preorder car pack£3.39(all dlc included)
Rally Expansion Pack (contains 5 cars)£13.49

VIP car pack

Season Pass (~40 cars, does not include any of the above)

Possibly more. Total:

£6.75

£33.99

£75.61

Total:

£11.70

the only thing microsoft innovates, how to get more money from the idiots still following them.

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#43  Edited By TorqueHappens08
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I see they have topped the Porsche DLC from F4, but that was cheaper and worth it, this though, it's just fucking sad...

Honestly if you add up all the DLC for GT5, including the tracks, speed packs,all car packs, it's still cheaper..

With alot of cars being free.

Total price was 34.59$ for 30 cars,(3 free cars) 5 tracks, and more stuff like the "Stig" outfit... and alot more.

What the **** is going on over at turn 10?

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#44  Edited By HadOne2Many
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@Locutus_Picard said:

@HadOne2Many said:

@Locutus_Picard said:

Lems crying about a $100 purchese to get the full Forza 5 experience. You deserved this.

I don't see any crying in this thread. Grownups are allowed to look at things rational and call out the BS when we see it. We also have a habit of voting with out wallets (in this case, simply not buying the season pass). Mistaking that for crying shows a certain level of immaturity.

By buying Forza 5, you're effectively OK with cut content and you give the message you're willing to pay $50 for half a game.

Obviously you didn't read my first post. We don't know what content is in the vanilla game yet do we? And there hasn't been a Forza game to date that didn't deliver exceptional value without any of the DLC.

EDIT: by first post I meant my first one in the thread, not the first one you quoted.

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@XxR3m1xInHDn3D said:

This has happened with most Forza games so nothing new here (still awful though) but the bigger problem is the amount of money that the racing wheel costs. I have an official MS 360 wheel that is worth quite a lot of money now but I wouldn't be able to use it with the One

Yeah, as always if the dlc has content you want, buy it. Screw the season pass, just judge each car pack for yourself and decide if you want it. No big deal. Forza 4 shipped with around 450 cars. 5 will meet or exceed that.

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@shawn30 said:

@XxR3m1xInHDn3D said:

This has happened with most Forza games so nothing new here (still awful though) but the bigger problem is the amount of money that the racing wheel costs. I have an official MS 360 wheel that is worth quite a lot of money now but I wouldn't be able to use it with the One

Yeah, as always if the dlc has content you want, buy it. Screw the season pass, just judge each car pack for yourself and decide if you want it. No big deal. Forza 4 shipped with around 450 cars. 5 will meet or exceed that.

Yeah I think 5 has 700-800 if I recall correctly. That number springs to mind at least.

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#47 NameIess_One
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What the hell?

Seen some really bad DLC crap here and there, but this takes the cake!

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@HadOne2Many said:

@Locutus_Picard said:

@HadOne2Many said:

@Locutus_Picard said:

Lems crying about a $100 purchese to get the full Forza 5 experience. You deserved this.

I don't see any crying in this thread. Grownups are allowed to look at things rational and call out the BS when we see it. We also have a habit of voting with out wallets (in this case, simply not buying the season pass). Mistaking that for crying shows a certain level of immaturity.

By buying Forza 5, you're effectively OK with cut content and you give the message you're willing to pay $50 for half a game.

Obviously you didn't read my first post. We don't know what content is in the vanilla game yet do we? And there hasn't been a Forza game to date that didn't deliver exceptional value without any of the DLC.

EDIT: by first post I meant my first one in the thread, not the first one you quoted.

I wouldn't call missing day-night cycles and prebaked lighting as exceptional value, not to mention google earth buildings and environments. It's a step down from Horizon actually.

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#49  Edited By withe1982
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A $60 day 1 DLC for content that should always be in the full retail version is absolutely ridiculous. If any XboxOne owner out there plays this then you are, in no small part, adding to the demise of the gaming industry.

It happened with the initial XboxOne DRM at launch so then why can't it happen again. I implore every Lem to vote with their wallets and not to not fall for this absolute bullshit.

If Sony try and pull any of this shite next gen they'll not be getting a penny out of me for a PS4. I know a lot of the free-to-play games for PS4 may be pay-to-win but at least you don't have to shell out any money for the game.

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#50 HadOne2Many
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@_Matt_ said:

@shawn30 said:

@XxR3m1xInHDn3D said:

This has happened with most Forza games so nothing new here (still awful though) but the bigger problem is the amount of money that the racing wheel costs. I have an official MS 360 wheel that is worth quite a lot of money now but I wouldn't be able to use it with the One

Yeah, as always if the dlc has content you want, buy it. Screw the season pass, just judge each car pack for yourself and decide if you want it. No big deal. Forza 4 shipped with around 450 cars. 5 will meet or exceed that.

Yeah I think 5 has 700-800 if I recall correctly. That number springs to mind at least.

All they've said officially is "hundreds". So far there's like 180 confirmed, but supposedly tomorrow's final car reveal will have the full list. I doubt we'll being seeing more than FM5 based on articles like this: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/28/starting-from-scratch-building-forza-5s-new-car-roster.