Forza 5 Review, Flop or Not?

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#151 Posted by lundy86_4 (43540 posts) -

@me2002 said:

seeing this 90+ franchise on MC drop down to 82 is the real win

keep playing your SW game and owning the cows if that makes you happy

Forza Horizon is at an 85 on MC.

#152 Posted by me2002 (1307 posts) -

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

seeing this 90+ franchise on MC drop down to 82 is the real win

keep playing your SW game and owning the cows if that makes you happy

Forza Horizon is at an 85 on MC.

*main entries

#153 Posted by mavven (552 posts) -

@Rage010101: @Rage010101:

What tears! No one is crying, be sure of that.

I'm only concern for you because this review is like putting ash in your eyes so u can go out spend your money a buy a recycled product.

All I'm saying that the review is not fair like the Killzone one was.

#154 Posted by yanni1 (891 posts) -

@me2002 said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

seeing this 90+ franchise on MC drop down to 82 is the real win

keep playing your SW game and owning the cows if that makes you happy

Forza Horizon is at an 85 on MC.

*main entries

hahaha, just stop man. please

#155 Posted by lundy86_4 (43540 posts) -

@me2002 said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

seeing this 90+ franchise on MC drop down to 82 is the real win

keep playing your SW game and owning the cows if that makes you happy

Forza Horizon is at an 85 on MC.

*main entries

Sorry, did you have to adjust that to get your argument to work? lol. You said franchise, and Horizon is part of the Forza franchise.

#156 Posted by SystemWarrior (39 posts) -

Great score!

#157 Posted by kuu2 (7369 posts) -

@ghostwarrior786 said:

haha what a joke of a review. has less content then predecessor yet still scores 9. good game for racing fans probably but not a system seller i dont think just a substitute. anyway normal service will resume tomo when ryse scores 6

Forgot about Ryse still to come tomorrow. It will be a solid 8 just watch..

And either way this launch games wise is way better than the WobbleS4.

Too funny that Sony Fan just got trolled by GSpot!

#158 Posted by lundy86_4 (43540 posts) -

@mavven said:

@Rage010101: @Rage010101:

What tears! No one is crying, be sure of that.

I'm only concern for you because this review is like putting ash in your eyes so u can go out spend your money a buy a recycled product.

All I'm saying that the review is not fair like the Killzone one was.

#159 Posted by R3FURBISHED (10607 posts) -

@2mrw said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

In regards to the Eurogamer review:

All that's left is the grind, and it's not a particularly pleasant one. Unlike previous outings, cars don't unlock upon levelling up. Everything must be bought in Forza Motorsport 5, and all transactions take place in a slightly misshapen economy. A series will, on average, net the player in excess of 110,000 credits for just under an hour's effort - but with some of the premium racecars costing well over a million, it's a somewhat brutal grind. Good job, then, that there are tokens purchasable on the Xbox One's marketplace for you to attain the car you're after, or to temporarily boost the rate at which you gain XP. When you've already paid £429.99 for a new console, £44.99 for the game and maybe even £349.99 for the only steering wheel that the game supports at launch, such tricks appear a little unsavoury, and in Forza 5, mechanics greedily smuggled from free-to-play games trample over the elegant RPG elements the series once embraced so effectively.

I don't understand the point of this - I paid money for my console so the content in the games I bought shouldn't be difficult to acquire?

Was it Turn 10 that produced the software/firmware in the Xbox One that only allows for the second rate steering wheel support?

Why does that belong in the review!?

The game is forcing you to pay to have fun

What? The reviewer is complaining because he has to invest time in the game to receive more cars.

#160 Edited by DrRockso87 (2529 posts) -

Yeah, but Resogun still has 0.1 higher score on Metacritic so that automatically makes it better!! LHBO!!!

Naah, but seriously, that's great. I'm not interested in racing games but Turn 10 Studios seem to be a quality developer. I expected a 9/10.

Curious how Ryse will do next though. Two more days/

#161 Posted by me2002 (1307 posts) -

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

seeing this 90+ franchise on MC drop down to 82 is the real win

keep playing your SW game and owning the cows if that makes you happy

Forza Horizon is at an 85 on MC.

*main entries

Sorry, did you have to adjust that to get your argument to work? lol. You said franchise, and Horizon is part of the Forza franchise.

i'm not trying to argue, just saying

#162 Edited by lundy86_4 (43540 posts) -

@me2002 said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

seeing this 90+ franchise on MC drop down to 82 is the real win

keep playing your SW game and owning the cows if that makes you happy

Forza Horizon is at an 85 on MC.

*main entries

Sorry, did you have to adjust that to get your argument to work? lol. You said franchise, and Horizon is part of the Forza franchise.

i'm not trying to argue, just saying

Your point was rather asinine.

#163 Edited by kuu2 (7369 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@bobbetybob said:

Review

What's the score, did it meet the hype is it the savior of the Xbone???

Yup, 9/10, suck it Resogun.

http://www.gamerankings.com/xboxone/716325-forza-motorsport-5/index.html

80.97

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....

Resogun...83.12

http://www.gamerankings.com/ps4/727999-resogun/index.html

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,,,,,,,,,, Gamespot does it again....

So you are not here when Bloom/Blur/FogZone flops but are here when Forza pounds Sony Fan...........

Typical

#164 Posted by sts106mat (19857 posts) -

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

seeing this 90+ franchise on MC drop down to 82 is the real win

keep playing your SW game and owning the cows if that makes you happy

Forza Horizon is at an 85 on MC.

*main entries

Sorry, did you have to adjust that to get your argument to work? lol. You said franchise, and Horizon is part of the Forza franchise.

so would that crappy uncharted card game count then?

#165 Posted by lundy86_4 (43540 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

seeing this 90+ franchise on MC drop down to 82 is the real win

keep playing your SW game and owning the cows if that makes you happy

Forza Horizon is at an 85 on MC.

*main entries

Sorry, did you have to adjust that to get your argument to work? lol. You said franchise, and Horizon is part of the Forza franchise.

so would that crappy uncharted card game count then?

If I specified the franchise, then yes. It was me2002's outline. Not mine.

#166 Posted by kuu2 (7369 posts) -

@waltefmoney said:

If Ryse scores 7+ cows should just leave SW for a few months.

They will.........

If it scores an 8 you will see suicide porn posts, whats even worse is KI is still not reviewed. That doesn't bode well for Sony Fan.

#167 Edited by sts106mat (19857 posts) -

@DrRockso87 said:

Yeah, but Resogun still has 0.1 higher score on Metacritic so that automatically makes it better!! LHBO!!!

Naah, but seriously, that's great. I'm not interested in racing games but Turn 10 Studios seem to be a quality developer. I expected a 9/10.

Curious how Ryse will do next though. Two more days/

i am not into racing games, but forza 4 got such great reviews i just had to try it. i was blown away by what a polished game it was, incredibly beautiful autovista mode, top gear test track. the community integration was great. If i get an XB1, Forza 5 will be in my shopping bag for sure.

#168 Posted by Chutebox (37365 posts) -

Hash, I got another right!

#169 Posted by sts106mat (19857 posts) -

@lundy86_4 said:

@sts106mat said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

@lundy86_4 said:

@me2002 said:

seeing this 90+ franchise on MC drop down to 82 is the real win

keep playing your SW game and owning the cows if that makes you happy

Forza Horizon is at an 85 on MC.

*main entries

Sorry, did you have to adjust that to get your argument to work? lol. You said franchise, and Horizon is part of the Forza franchise.

so would that crappy uncharted card game count then?

If I specified the franchise, then yes. It was me2002's outline. Not mine.

gottcha, horizon is part of the franchise, but it is not done by turn 10 and i definitely did not rate it up their with Forza 4. good for a blast though.

#170 Posted by 2mrw (5015 posts) -

@R3FURBISHED said:

@2mrw said:

@R3FURBISHED said:

In regards to the Eurogamer review:

All that's left is the grind, and it's not a particularly pleasant one. Unlike previous outings, cars don't unlock upon levelling up. Everything must be bought in Forza Motorsport 5, and all transactions take place in a slightly misshapen economy. A series will, on average, net the player in excess of 110,000 credits for just under an hour's effort - but with some of the premium racecars costing well over a million, it's a somewhat brutal grind. Good job, then, that there are tokens purchasable on the Xbox One's marketplace for you to attain the car you're after, or to temporarily boost the rate at which you gain XP. When you've already paid £429.99 for a new console, £44.99 for the game and maybe even £349.99 for the only steering wheel that the game supports at launch, such tricks appear a little unsavoury, and in Forza 5, mechanics greedily smuggled from free-to-play games trample over the elegant RPG elements the series once embraced so effectively.

I don't understand the point of this - I paid money for my console so the content in the games I bought shouldn't be difficult to acquire?

Was it Turn 10 that produced the software/firmware in the Xbox One that only allows for the second rate steering wheel support?

Why does that belong in the review!?

The game is forcing you to pay to have fun

What? The reviewer is complaining because he has to invest time in the game to receive more cars.

He is complaining about the intentional long time of grinding requires to buy cares and the existence of real money purchasable tokens that will help you save that time.

He is feeling that these changes were made on purpose to encourage people to pay to get what they want when they already paid alot already .

#171 Posted by me2002 (1307 posts) -

@lundy86_4: yes bro, keep getting hung up by my words, keep going

#172 Posted by blackace (20886 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

@bobbetybob said:
@uninspiredcup said:

Why is it being reviewed by a 14 year old boy?

Anyways, eurogamer (a credible review site) gave it a 7, so yes, it's a flop.

Funny how the "credible review sites" seem to change to suit peoples agendas isn't it. What happens when Eurogamer give a game you're interested in a 5? Do they suddenly stop being credible.

Eurogamer is widely considered the best review stie. Sounds like you are making excuses. Pretty sad really.

EuroGamer Italy gave it a 9.0 as well. LMAO!! Now please shut the hell up. TCHBO!! AAAE beats all the PS4 exclusives.

********************************************************************************************

LMAO @tormentos trying to use Gamerankings for ownage. Hahahahaha!! This guy has gone to a new low. LOL!! A cows calling GS poor reviewers when it doesn't benefit their games. While other sites like Eurogamer Italy, OXM, US Gamer, VideoGamer, Destructoid & Polygon all game the game a 9.0 or better. LOL!!

#173 Edited by urbansys (232 posts) -

Now all the xbox one needs is for Ryse to be an 8 or better. In that case, the xbox launch baring any hardware issues would be more successful then the PS4.

#174 Posted by lundy86_4 (43540 posts) -

@me2002 said:

@lundy86_4: yes bro, keep getting hung up by my words, keep going

What else would I be hung up on? This is a forum, where you converse with typed words.

#175 Edited by AMD655 (4495 posts) -

@urbansys said:

Now all the xbox one needs is for Ryse to be an 8 or better. In that case, the xbox launch baring any hardware issues would be more successful then the PS4.

Dreamcast, oh nostalgia.

#176 Posted by R3FURBISHED (10607 posts) -

@2mrw said:

He is complaining about the intentional long time of grinding requires to buy cares and the existence of real money purchasable tokens that will help you save that time.

He is feeling that these changes were made on purpose to encourage people to pay to get what they want when they already paid alot already .

A series will, on average, net the player in excess of 110,000 credits for just under an hour's effort - but with some of the premium racecars costing well over a million, it's a somewhat brutal grind.

God forbid you have to spend a couple of hours inside a game in order to unlock content - how terrible that must be.

In regards to tokens:

  1. They have been a part of the Forza series for a while now
  2. You are not forced to buy them
  3. You could, you know....play the game. Unlock the content that way.
#177 Posted by kuu2 (7369 posts) -

@telefanatic said:

Shit game getting AAA by a youngster ? Gamespot paid off for sure. Still getting a PS4 over the Xbone. I buy my consoles for the long run.

Sony Fan the clowns of SW.

#178 Posted by COVAtheNOVA (185 posts) -

So how long will be it be before the PS4 has an exclusive AAA game? Probably a while.

#179 Posted by XBOunity (2981 posts) -

@blackace: tormentos lol in damage controlling

#180 Edited by blackace (20886 posts) -

@mavven said:

@Rage010101: @Rage010101:

What tears! No one is crying, be sure of that.

I'm only concern for you because this review is like putting ash in your eyes so u can go out spend your money a buy a recycled product.

All I'm saying that the review is not fair like the Killzone one was.

Dude, give it a rest. KZ:SF review is fair and it's completely backed up by other reviewers on other gamesites. You're just butthurt because the GREAT AND POWERFUL KZ:SF FLOPPED EVERYWHERE. It wasn't just on GS. Cry more. Everyone knew Knack was going to flop. Just playing the demo I knew it. We weren't expecting a "4" though. That's Epic Flop!!

#181 Posted by kuu2 (7369 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

Gamespot seemed to be very generous with this game. I don't see how a game with half the content of the last game in the series can outscore it.

That just doesn't make any sense to me. Other reviewers are pointing it that out and giving the game a lower score because of it.

You are sounding like Sony Fan. Take a deep breath it is just someones opinion.

And yes it met the hype.

#182 Posted by OniLordAsmodeus (78 posts) -
@R3FURBISHED said:

In regards to the Eurogamer review:

All that's left is the grind, and it's not a particularly pleasant one. Unlike previous outings, cars don't unlock upon levelling up. Everything must be bought in Forza Motorsport 5, and all transactions take place in a slightly misshapen economy. A series will, on average, net the player in excess of 110,000 credits for just under an hour's effort - but with some of the premium racecars costing well over a million, it's a somewhat brutal grind. Good job, then, that there are tokens purchasable on the Xbox One's marketplace for you to attain the car you're after, or to temporarily boost the rate at which you gain XP. When you've already paid £429.99 for a new console, £44.99 for the game and maybe even £349.99 for the only steering wheel that the game supports at launch, such tricks appear a little unsavoury, and in Forza 5, mechanics greedily smuggled from free-to-play games trample over the elegant RPG elements the series once embraced so effectively.

I don't understand the point of this - I paid money for my console so the content in the games I bought shouldn't be difficult to acquire?

Was it Turn 10 that produced the software/firmware in the Xbox One that only allows for the second rate steering wheel support?

Why does that belong in the review!?

That is essentially the way (IMO) many younger and/or more casual gamers see games today. Sure you could blame in on the way f2p games changed the market, but honestly, if you like a game, grinding isn't, and most of the time doesn't, come off as a chore.

#183 Edited by Netherscourge (16328 posts) -

82 on Metacritic.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/forza-motorsport-5

Mixed bag.

So the game has no nighttime driving or weather?

And apparently it's got less stuff than Forza 4 had.

But, it got a 9 here, so Lemmings rejoice! You have a good game to play!

#184 Edited by kuu2 (7369 posts) -

@mtradr43 said:

@Wasdie: no need to cry with the cows. Dont be a mod if you dont want to play by the rules.

Most Hermits are just Cows with deep pockets. Wasdie being one of those.

#185 Edited by TheLordHimself (3316 posts) -

Wow, I actually wasn't expecting a 9.0 here. Looks like a great launch title! I'm interested to see how Drive Club will stack up. The social features and in-race challenges could be good, but I hope they aren't too obtrusive. Let's hope the guys and gals at Evolution Studios are working their flanks off to make it as good as possible!

#186 Edited by HavocV3 (7947 posts) -

Guess it didn't flop. What a surprise.

What's not surprising is that cows can't play the metagame correctly, again.

-DR3 flopped w/o a hype thread

-Forza flopped because GS scores for the GS metagame no longer count, apparently.

-Arcade/indie games should be grouped with full retail games now, apparently. + moar MC DC.

#187 Edited by COVAtheNOVA (185 posts) -

@Netherscourge said:

82 on Metacritic.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/forza-motorsport-5

Mixed bag.

An 82 isn't a mixed bag. Is is a great game in most circles.

#188 Posted by Rage010101 (5470 posts) -

@mavven said:

@Rage010101: @Rage010101:

What tears! No one is crying, be sure of that.

I'm only concern for you because this review is like putting ash in your eyes so u can go out spend your money a buy a recycled product.

All I'm saying that the review is not fair like the Killzone one was.

Clearly you are butthurt sir. Also, I'm not buying Forza 5 or X1. Nor am I ever geting a PS4. I'm simply a herm enjoying cows getting owned and celebrating Lems' victory over you guys. I gotta say, it's quite enjoyable watching you guys damage control all over the place. You need to stop crying about whats fair and whats not. Forza 5 is AAAe, get over it and DEAL WITH IT!

#189 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5067 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

haha what a joke of a review. has less content then predecessor yet still scores 9. good game for racing fans probably but not a system seller i dont think just a substitute. anyway normal service will resume tomo when ryse scores 6

Forgot about Ryse still to come tomorrow. It will be a solid 8 just watch..

And either way this launch games wise is way better than the WobbleS4.

Too funny that Sony Fan just got trolled by GSpot!

haha enjoy your time to gloat it will only last 24 hours, ryse looks utter garbage gameplay wise, no way and i mean NO WAY will it get higher than 7. i predict 6. if the 3rd party games wernt so strong 1st party would matter but with bf4 on launch day i couldnt care less

#190 Edited by R3FURBISHED (10607 posts) -

Thats a fucking tag line:

Forza 5 is beautiful, sure, with a stunning, light-filled world of engines and tire smoke. But with the introduction of aggressive, convincing AI that makes every offline race feel like a multiplayer competition, Turn 10 has charted a course for the future of the series — and created the Xbox One's first must-own game.

#191 Posted by Rage010101 (5470 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

@mtradr43 said:

@Wasdie: no need to cry with the cows. Dont be a mod if you dont want to play by the rules.

Most Hermits are just Cows with deep pockets. Wasdie being one of those.

I'm a huge Herm, and I personally think Cows are the worst faction.

#192 Edited by mavven (552 posts) -

@blackace:

Oh, I already gave it rest (on KZ) and reading the other sites reviews, the score is well deserved.

But did you read the other sites review of Forza?! Do you want me to link for you?

They said nearly the same things as the gamespot reviewer but their score was lower than 9. And I happen to agree with them.

There no way a racing sim game of 2013 for next gen consoles that lacks in features to be an AAAE.

And I'm not butthurt, don't worry about me. If your convinced this game deserve the score go and play it and have fun ;)

#193 Posted by SonofK (1066 posts) -

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@SonofK said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

haha what a joke of a review. has less content then predecessor yet still scores 9. good game for racing fans probably but not a system seller i dont think just a substitute. anyway normal service will resume tomo when ryse scores 6

Dat Damage Control. I'd rather have fewer cars I'd like to race than have thousands of cars like the Honda Odyssey, must explain why Gran Turismo hasn't been good in over a decade

Wii U = AAAE

XB1 = AAE

PS4 = lulz

well i couldnt care less about simulation racing games i like nfs

wiiu- 1.3m sold in us

xb1 - still taking pre-orders, not looking good

ps4- 1m in 24 hours, world record

no one except xbox fans will buy x1 just for forza

Show me a single site taking pre orders for the XB1. Go ahead, I'll wait.

#194 Edited by Rage010101 (5470 posts) -

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kuu2 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

haha what a joke of a review. has less content then predecessor yet still scores 9. good game for racing fans probably but not a system seller i dont think just a substitute. anyway normal service will resume tomo when ryse scores 6

Forgot about Ryse still to come tomorrow. It will be a solid 8 just watch..

And either way this launch games wise is way better than the WobbleS4.

Too funny that Sony Fan just got trolled by GSpot!

haha enjoy your time to gloat it will only last 24 hours, ryse looks utter garbage gameplay wise, no way and i mean NO WAY will it get higher than 7. i predict 6. if the 3rd party games wernt so strong 1st party would matter but with bf4 on launch day i couldnt care less

24 hours? No, just no. AAAe status last all gen long my friend. Lems have the right to shit on you cows until you beat their number of AAAe games. Til then, keep dat damage control flowing.

#195 Edited by lglz1337 (3855 posts) -

denial cows in this thread stop the DC we got owned! next time better luck GS scored it a 9 no mather what other sites say

#196 Edited by DanteSuikoden (3418 posts) -

Wait a minute, a sequel that does less than its predecessor scored a 9.0? Oh well, as a cow I have been owned.

#197 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5067 posts) -

@SonofK said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@SonofK said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

haha what a joke of a review. has less content then predecessor yet still scores 9. good game for racing fans probably but not a system seller i dont think just a substitute. anyway normal service will resume tomo when ryse scores 6

Dat Damage Control. I'd rather have fewer cars I'd like to race than have thousands of cars like the Honda Odyssey, must explain why Gran Turismo hasn't been good in over a decade

Wii U = AAAE

XB1 = AAE

PS4 = lulz

well i couldnt care less about simulation racing games i like nfs

wiiu- 1.3m sold in us

xb1 - still taking pre-orders, not looking good

ps4- 1m in 24 hours, world record

no one except xbox fans will buy x1 just for forza

Show me a single site taking pre orders for the XB1. Go ahead, I'll wait.

amazon this morning haha check up

#198 Edited by HavocV3 (7947 posts) -

@Rage010101 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@kuu2 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

haha what a joke of a review. has less content then predecessor yet still scores 9. good game for racing fans probably but not a system seller i dont think just a substitute. anyway normal service will resume tomo when ryse scores 6

Forgot about Ryse still to come tomorrow. It will be a solid 8 just watch..

And either way this launch games wise is way better than the WobbleS4.

Too funny that Sony Fan just got trolled by GSpot!

haha enjoy your time to gloat it will only last 24 hours, ryse looks utter garbage gameplay wise, no way and i mean NO WAY will it get higher than 7. i predict 6. if the 3rd party games wernt so strong 1st party would matter but with bf4 on launch day i couldnt care less

24 hours? No, just now. AAAe status last all gen long my friend. Lems have the right to shit on you cows until you beat their number of AAAe games. Til then, keep dat damage control flowing.

Dat sweet, delicious, DC.

#199 Posted by kuu2 (7369 posts) -

We might need this guy today.

#200 Edited by nexus303 (204 posts) -

Congrats X1 fans, another great launch title. I might have to pick this up now.