Ever have seconds thoughts about games you liked?

Skyward Sword's focus on providing a full blown world in which to interact with using the strongest motion controls seen in a video game to date adds huge positives to this game. No other game so unapologetically sticks to this and it's generally what makes or breaks the experience for most.

I would also like to add that, for a 30 hour Zelda, it has perhaps the least padding in a 3D Zelda. It was just pure fun from start to finish (well the start was a bit slow). It kept throwing new and enjoyable gameplay scenarios at you that made the long game time merited. It was Zelda with all the fat cut away.

Also the silent realm portions were some of the best new ideas I've experienced in a Zelda. I've played through the game several times and I always get really excited when I reach these parts.

all this coupled with the best combat mechanics in the franchise by far and some of the best boss fights multiple solutions for several of the bosses) known to Zelda. Fighting Ghirahim is an extraordinary experience.

I will admit the handholding is annoying though. I try to ignore it as much as possible. There's just a lot of good here too.

Most recently Halo 4 and Skyward Sword, especially after beating ALBW.

The world design didn't change structure for Zelda, and if anything it was done poorly. The idea was to make an overworld like a dungeon: cool that actually sounds good. Problem their definition of dungeon equals errand boy. On the flipside Link Between Worlds handles this type of stuff way better, and it does it simply through a game mechanic (the wall painting move)and actually changing up the structure of the game (letting you loose on a bunch of dungeons as you see fit+renting system).

The combat itself doesn't "Change" zelda as some anti zelda, all it does is turn Zelda's combat of waiting for the enemy to give you an opening to, waiting for the enemy to give you an opening, but with motion specific hits. The silent realm is a glorified minigame. Solid as a change of pace, but hardly some game changer for Zelda. Your opinion of the quality of said Zelda, wouldn't make it some different Zelda. It very much was more Zelda: certain things done better, certain things done worse, but more Zelda.

The part I completely disagree with is the bold, the least padding, the fat cut away? What imaginary non-errand boy Zelda game did you play? The triforce quest was the following

Yeah, really cut the fat there.

@jg4xchamp: you mean all those new gameplay segments that have you doing completely different things than you've done for the rest of the game? Yeah I call that merited gameplay. You just don't like the context surrounding those portions.

I'm more of a gamplay kind of guy. I care more about what I'm doing instead of why.

I'm trying to stop myself trying to dwell on games I have already played. Sometimes it makes me forget the enjoyment I had -while- actually playing it.

At least on some level. Deconstructing an experience can amount to trying to convince myself that something was bad/not fun than it actually was.

Agreed..... My go to indies include Rogue legacy as well (can't wait to get that on vita in 2 weeks! ) also Terraria, Pixel Junk Monsters HD, Gnomoria, Banished, and Tome4. AAA games do get stale after a while.

I enjoyed a ton of N64 games. That was before I knew the popular opinion about that system. I probably would have placed it pretty high on my list of best systems I ever had. When there was this overwhelming negative response I kinda reconsidered. Maybe I enjoyed it so much because at that time it was the one system I played games on. I kinda assumed that I was wrong. Later I played the other systems and didn't like their games that much. But today I still feel like I probably missed something or don't remember that time accurately, purely based on other people's overwhelming negative response.
I also liked the Gamecube and that also got a lot of negativity. So maybe the loudest people are just dumbasses.

My Vita arrives today via UPS... I have Rogue Legacy squarely at the center of my bullseye... and heres the best part, its not just Vita. Its a Cross Buy game with cross save as well... meaning we can now play our characters on all sony platforms at any time... Truly a thank you to Sony for that. Thats the direction I want gaming to go. accessibility.

Shadow fall killed all my killzone nostalgia.

So am I, I care about doing something worth a damn. Not being told to go fetch things and doing pointless endeavors, as opposed to the thing I actually want to do in a Zelda game: the dungeons. At the least the stuff I'd want to do in Skyward Sword. The context wasn't the only issue, backtracking through those segments and finding musical notes in shit in a tedious manner is not fun. More to the point to anyone that has touched a puzzle game in the last gee, I don't know, lets say 5 years, the stuff you do to get those notes is child's play.

It's devoid of any satisfaction unless one completely sips Zelda koolaid, and is ignorant to the rest of the medium.

Why?

Dragon Age: Origins comes to mind.