EA: Sims 4 lacks pools/toddlers for new tech trade-off

#1 Edited by nintendoboy16 (26924 posts) -

Source: Gamespot

Yeah, that reasoning is still bullshit all the same EA. New tech probably has sacrifices, but not like THAT.

#2 Edited by Wasdie (50003 posts) -

Let's not pretend that anybody here actually cares about the Sims 4. This is just going to be a reason to continue bashing EA.

#3 Posted by bbkkristian (14957 posts) -

Because that makes sense.................

#4 Posted by darkspineslayer (19818 posts) -

Let's be real guys. Adding pools would take months and thousands of additional animations. It's just too much of a workload.

And they need to save something for DLC.

#5 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4895 posts) -

i'm not really worried about the sims 4's pricing and content for too many reasons to get in to here.

#6 Edited by Jynxzor (9309 posts) -

Well I will probably pick up and enjoy Sims 4 (Shame) but it still wont suprise me when they ask for me to fork out cash for.

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Sims 4 Pools party: With pools! (Abillity to delete the only entrance to the pool sold as a premium purchase per deletion) or maybe these new "Locomotion" mechanics will make sims able to exit swimming pools somewhere other than the ladder especially if I decide to delete it.

Sims 4 Toddler terror!: Enjoy the crippling responsibillity of child care, only available with the power of the cloud (Children require complex algorithyms to initiate crying, walking, or higher brain functions) While you can play without the cloud features enabled the children will then only act as a permanent negative slot on the nearest couch to any television, adding stress to your parent sim because they never get to watch what they want to.

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Of course like all the other DLC packs for the previous sims games...I'll ignore their existence until I get them for damn near free.

#7 Posted by theremixer (440 posts) -

Real reason is its going to come as DLC. 100 bucks says its already ready and just sitting on the sideline for a DLC pack to come out a few months after Sims 4 due to "high demand". Pointless PR BS is pointless.

#8 Posted by wis3boi (31472 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

Let's not pretend that anybody here actually cares about the Sims 4. This is just going to be a reason to continue bashing EA.

I would have cared, instead they also cut out:

Features Removed or Not Included

  • No Create-A-Style or Color Wheel —No Create-A-Style Confirmed
  • No Cut Scenes —Confirmed: No Cut Scenes in The Sims 4
  • The Sims 4 World is FUBAR: Loading screens between every lot, public spaces can’t be edited in any way, 5 lot maximum per neighborhood and the largest lot size is 50x50. —The Sims 4 Neighborhood
  • Maximum Build Height: 3 Levels —Graham Nardone
  • Foundations: No split levels or ability to have different height foundations on a lot. Example: A house built on a foundation and a shed built without a foundation is not possible. —Graham Nardone
  • No Basements or Circular Stairs —Graham Nardone and Grant Rodiek
  • No Clothes Shopping —Mini SimGuru Q&A from Twitter
  • No Grocery Store —Sarah Holding
  • No Tragic Clown or Social Bunny —Sarah Holding
  • No Work or School Rabbit Holes. —Sarah Holding (one and two) Personal Note: Isn’t that a feature? Moving on…
  • No Private School —Graham Nardone
  • No Woohoo Skill —Meet The Sims 4!
  • No Toddlers and Pools —Neighborhoods, Weird Moments and More!
  • No Swimming at all or bathing suits. —Sarah Holding and Graham Nardone
  • Only 2 Heights: Children and everyone else. Teens, young adults, adults and elders are all the same height —Graham Nardone and Grant Rodiek (Reason: Difficult/Costs too much)
  • No Story Progression —Sarah Holding and Graham Nardone

Suspected but not confirmed (Sim Gurus will not answer the many Simmers who have asked.)

  • No Terrain or Water Tools (flat lots only/ponds are objects)
  • Can’t place ANY lots; can only change pre-placed lot types (i.e. commercial to residential)
  • No Ownable Cars (or taxis and school buses): There’s no garages or driveways in the build mode video and in response to a question about transportation: “It doesn’t really make sense to ride one [tram or steamboat] with the way our neighborhoods are set up.” —Trevor Lindsey (Walking to the edge of the lot and teleporting is the only type of “transportation” mentioned so far.)
  • No Ghosts and Aliens: No clue.
#9 Edited by nintendoboy16 (26924 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

@Wasdie said:

Let's not pretend that anybody here actually cares about the Sims 4. This is just going to be a reason to continue bashing EA.

I would have cared, instead they also cut out:

  • No Woohoo Skill —Meet The Sims 4!

What is this? The GBA/DS adventure titles?

#10 Posted by biggest_loser (24065 posts) -

Pools and such have been in The Sims since the very first 2D game.

This mega company with all their resources and technology couldn't work out a way to put them into the game?

I just don't buy it.

#11 Posted by Snugenz (11892 posts) -

That excuse wreaks of bullshit (aka pure PR speak), they're being omitted for one reason only, more money, just like they did in the Sims 2 and 3 with weather, pets etc.

#12 Posted by iwasgood2u (819 posts) -

Cant believe they're removing a lot of key features in this game. it's 2014 now and still no sims online. EA is working backwards with this old IP and I don't see the point of developing it. The graphic is so weak looking as if it's last gen. They don't seem to be taking full advantage of the pc and consoles GPU power. If they removing all these features might as well beef up the graphics and make it look realistic this way it can make up for it and allow first person view option. It will enhance the experience at least.

#13 Posted by MirkoS77 (7635 posts) -

Haven't played a Sims game since 2. Nevertheless, how dumb do they take us for? This is just insulting. I'm sure this "tech" preventing Maxis from including pools and toddlers being included in the base game will have no trouble incorporating them in the DLC.

What a pathetic excuse of a company.

#14 Posted by foxhound_fox (88797 posts) -

*puts on Ahrnold voice*

BULLSHIT!

I'll give the game a month of release and they'll magically discover a workaround that lets them release the content as a $60 expansion pack.

#15 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (25632 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

Let's not pretend that anybody here actually cares about the Sims 4. This is just going to be a reason to continue bashing EA.

Let's not pretend that There isn't people here that care about Sims 4. If this was any other game you'd probably start singing a different tune. Heck this is almost the same thing EA pulled for the Battlefield Franchise for making Battlefield 3 having less destructible buildings than Bad Company 2.

#16 Posted by YearoftheSnake5 (7499 posts) -

If they would release absent content as Free-LC, they could make amends. This is EA we're dealing with, though, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

#17 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (27891 posts) -

I've been a big fan of the Sims since the first game, but since Sim City, been avoiding EA where possible like the plague. Will be skipping this title unfortunately too.

#18 Edited by uninspiredcup (9016 posts) -

EA's PR bullshit machine still well oiled.

#19 Posted by ShepardCommandr (2755 posts) -

@theremixer said:

Real reason is its going to come as DLC. 100 bucks says its already ready and just sitting on the sideline for a DLC pack to come out a few months after Sims 4 due to "high demand". Pointless PR BS is pointless.

#20 Edited by edwardecl (2239 posts) -

I think what they are trying to say is they have remade the game from the ground up and don't have enough time to put all the features back in... which is fair enough. But there is a certain expectation with any sequel, they should delay the game and put the core features back in and only then release it, unless they are going to patch it later for free.

#21 Edited by k2theswiss (16599 posts) -

@wis3boi: wow- sad

What a fuckng uncompleted game.

Clearly ot needs delayed but we all know ea will never delay a game

#22 Posted by hiphops_savior (7945 posts) -

PR: We are trying to convince shareholders to hang on to their stocks when they are only thinking of when to sell their shares for other suckers to buy.

#23 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (7326 posts) -

My wife really wants this game. I have been trying to convince her to just stick with The Sims 3, but I will probably end up buying it, unfortunately. Crap like this just makes me hate EA so much.

#24 Edited by glez13 (8876 posts) -

The first expansion will probably add pools and toddlers...

That's why I abandoned the series with The Sims 2. To much milking. At some point you basically have to buy the exact same expansions you bought for the previous game.

#25 Edited by Motokid6 (5730 posts) -

@edwardecl said:

I think what they are trying to say is they have remade the game from the ground up and don't have enough time to put all the features back in... which is fair enough. But there is a certain expectation with any sequel, they should delay the game and put the core features back in and only then release it, unless they are going to patch it later for free.

Patch? Free? EA? LMAO.

EA is gunning for the worst company three years in a row it looks like. Congrats for them they deserve it. Fucking scum of the gaming industry.

#26 Posted by nintendoboy16 (26924 posts) -

@Motokid6 said:

@edwardecl said:

I think what they are trying to say is they have remade the game from the ground up and don't have enough time to put all the features back in... which is fair enough. But there is a certain expectation with any sequel, they should delay the game and put the core features back in and only then release it, unless they are going to patch it later for free.

Patch? Free? EA? LMAO.

EA is gunning for the worst company three years in a row it looks like. Congrats for them they deserve it. Fucking scum of the gaming industry.

Uh... no. They only got it twice in a row and got knocked out in the recent one.

#27 Posted by jsolidus (165 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

@Wasdie said:

Let's not pretend that anybody here actually cares about the Sims 4. This is just going to be a reason to continue bashing EA.

I would have cared, instead they also cut out:

Features Removed or Not Included

  • No Create-A-Style or Color Wheel —No Create-A-Style Confirmed
  • No Cut Scenes —Confirmed: No Cut Scenes in The Sims 4
  • The Sims 4 World is FUBAR: Loading screens between every lot, public spaces can’t be edited in any way, 5 lot maximum per neighborhood and the largest lot size is 50x50. —The Sims 4 Neighborhood
  • Maximum Build Height: 3 Levels —Graham Nardone
  • Foundations: No split levels or ability to have different height foundations on a lot. Example: A house built on a foundation and a shed built without a foundation is not possible. —Graham Nardone
  • No Basements or Circular Stairs —Graham Nardone and Grant Rodiek
  • No Clothes Shopping —Mini SimGuru Q&A from Twitter
  • No Grocery Store —Sarah Holding
  • No Tragic Clown or Social Bunny —Sarah Holding
  • No Work or School Rabbit Holes. —Sarah Holding (one and two) Personal Note: Isn’t that a feature? Moving on…
  • No Private School —Graham Nardone
  • No Woohoo Skill —Meet The Sims 4!
  • No Toddlers and Pools —Neighborhoods, Weird Moments and More!
  • No Swimming at all or bathing suits. —Sarah Holding and Graham Nardone
  • Only 2 Heights: Children and everyone else. Teens, young adults, adults and elders are all the same height —Graham Nardone and Grant Rodiek (Reason: Difficult/Costs too much)
  • No Story Progression —Sarah Holding and Graham Nardone

Suspected but not confirmed (Sim Gurus will not answer the many Simmers who have asked.)

  • No Terrain or Water Tools (flat lots only/ponds are objects)
  • Can’t place ANY lots; can only change pre-placed lot types (i.e. commercial to residential)
  • No Ownable Cars (or taxis and school buses): There’s no garages or driveways in the build mode video and in response to a question about transportation: “It doesn’t really make sense to ride one [tram or steamboat] with the way our neighborhoods are set up.” —Trevor Lindsey (Walking to the edge of the lot and teleporting is the only type of “transportation” mentioned so far.)
  • No Ghosts and Aliens: No clue.

Why the hell did they even bother to make a sims game then? sounds like a crappy game. I had enough of EA and their bs over the years. I use to be a big fan of the sims but not anymore.

#28 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4895 posts) -

the add on content won't already be written guys. they've got a whole team employed.

people out there earn money in dribbles.

so they're paying people in dribbles to release a dribble of content.

would there be some content already on the disc? well probably and that would keep them just as bad as a few, including xbox 360 exclusives.

#29 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (7326 posts) -

Seriously, this is sounding like the worst Sims game ever made. EA is the master of destroying franchises.

#30 Posted by Mozuckint (786 posts) -

This statement will probably be about as factual as Sim City needing a persistent online connection to properly function.