EA is NOT a bad company

I often see people hate on EA (well on the internet at least, take that for what it is) and I don't understand why. I do disagree with a couple of their business practices, such as online passes and Day 1 DLC, but overall they do far more positive things for the industry. For instance they brought Mass Effect over to the PS3, without EA we PS3 guys wouldn't have gotten such an awesome series to play. And they continue to publish quality games, the "hate" they receive makes no sense.

So what is the rational behind the EA haters? I'm glad they exist and as long as they keep making great games they get my money. Also for the record: Dragon Age 2 was a lot better than Dragon Age Origins.

There is an ancient Mesapotanien saying which may be relevant:

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Haters are going to hate. 

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EA is a bad company.clyde46

Why? You just can't say that without explaining.

A bad company is something like AIG that screws people over in investments. EA doesn't hurt anyone and they publish a great product. That makes them good in my book.

I think they have a number of questionable practices, but overall they are ok, every major publisher is just as bad in some regard. I think the always online in SimCity sucks though.

EA is a bad company.clyde46

lol a shadowmoses thread.

I certainly wouldn't put them on the top of my morality obeying company list... But the way they are treated here is almost as bad as people here claim EA treats them (which are all hyperbole, by the way).

Also for the record: Dragon Age 2 was a lot better than Dragon Age Origins.ShadowMoses900

I think thatfont changes are cool in a thread and not at all annoying.  Also, EA sucksso deal with it.

I disagree with a lot of EA's business ethics.

I think they have a number of questionable practices, but overall they are ok, every major publisher is just as bad in some regard. I think the always online in SimCity sucks though.

GD1551

Yeah I heard about that, I think that sucks and I hope that doesn't carry over to next gen. But at least their games work and are fun, in fact if I was going to consider a gaming company to be "bad" it would be Bethesda for not being able to program correctly for other systems and then knowingly releasing a broken product (which later got fixed but not the point). Maybe "bad" isn't the right word, more like "unprofessional".

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"] Also for the record: Dragon Age 2 was a lot better than Dragon Age Origins.mems_1224

A different opinion counts as trolling? Only in SW....

Dragon Age 2 was a huge improvemnet, the combat was actually fun and it had a more solid story line. Dragon Age Origins was just boring.

Yeah! I like getting games with unneeded Multiplayer or Singleplayer! (Mass Effect was the last game to get Multiplayer and Battlefield 3 did not need a Single Player.)

[QUOTE="clyde46"]EA is a bad company.ShadowMoses900

Why? You just can't say that without explaining.

A bad company is something like AIG that screws people over in investments. EA doesn't hurt anyone and they publish a great product. That makes them good in my book.

Well  for starters they buy up profitable companies, leach off them until they're bone dry and than shut them down. do we really need to take a walk down to EAs graveyard again?

Yes they are a bad company and they don't make good products.  They buy up developers that make good products and than Runin them.

EA is a wasteland for talented developers.  

They are like a blackhole.  They destroy everything in their path.  

Yeah! I like getting games with unneeded Multiplayer or Singleplayer! (Mass Effect was the last game to get Multiplayer and Battlefield 3 did not need a Single Player.)

LegatoSkyheart

No offense but I don't understand this line of thinking. Multiplayer is there as an option, it's there for people who like it, if you don't want to play it simply ignore it. Also Mass Effect 3's multiplayer is actually quite good, I like unlocking the different races and trying to survive against waves of enemies. Very strategic and great with friends.

Battlefield has never had a good single player, but it's still important to be in there. I hate games without single player modes.

EA are a good COMPANY. However their practices are not about making gamers happy, they're about making money.

/thread.

Also before the on disc DLC nonsense starts cropping up, Microsoft do the same thing, Windows Starter disk contains all the features of Windows Ultimate but you don't get to use them. Wah wah wah go and learn what a software license is.

Still trying too hardMonsieurX

Shadowmoses trying to repair his "Internet Rep". Lol.

Yeah! I like getting games with unneeded Multiplayer or Singleplayer! (Mass Effect was the last game to get Multiplayer and Battlefield 3 did not need a Single Player.)

LegatoSkyheart

On topic, while EA isn't without some shadiness (like most big publishers), they're pretty good at what they set out to do. They also have some fine IPs under their belt.

Capcom are worse.

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Still trying too hardMozartXVI

Shadowmoses trying to repair his "Internet Rep". Lol.

No offense but I don't understand this line of thinking.

ShadowMoses900

This is not surprising.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"]EA is a bad company.Shielder7

Why? You just can't say that without explaining.

A bad company is something like AIG that screws people over in investments. EA doesn't hurt anyone and they publish a great product. That makes them good in my book.

Well  for starters they buy up profitable companies, leach off them until they're bone dry and than shut them down. do we really need to take a walk down to EAs graveyard again?

Yes they are a bad company

Plenty of devs have died underneath other publishers before. I don't see why EA get's the blame for it, why did they die? Was it EA's fault? Or were the devs simply not making games that were doing well on the market?

EA are a good COMPANY. However their practices are not about making gamers happy, they're about making money.

/thread.

Also before the on disc DLC nonsense starts cropping up, Microsoft do the same thing, Windows Starter disk contains all the features of Windows Ultimate but you don't get to use them. Wah wah wah go and learn what a software license is.

JohnF111

I don't see what's wrong with them making a profit. They are a business, I support the right for people to make as much money as they want. That's what makes capitalism....capitalism. I do disagree with some of their practices, but they have every right to make money just like anyone else.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Yeah! I like getting games with unneeded Multiplayer or Singleplayer! (Mass Effect was the last game to get Multiplayer and Battlefield 3 did not need a Single Player.)

ShadowMoses900

No offense but I don't understand this line of thinking. Multiplayer is there as an option, it's there for people who like it, if you don't want to play it simply ignore it. Also Mass Effect 3's multiplayer is actually quite good, I like unlocking the different races and trying to survive against waves of enemies. Very strategic and great with friends.

Battlefield has never had a good single player, but it's still important to be in there. I hate games without single player modes.

The Main Line of Battlefield games were and for most Online Multiplayer games, or what not, Lan Parties can be had with Battlefield 1942 or whatever.

For some reason, EA thought it would be a good idea to put Single Player in Battlefield 3. For what purpose? Who knows, For Benchmarking? Maybe, but no one buys Battlefield for Single Player.

Mass Effect, you're right, Multiplayer is an option, but for what purpose was Multiplayer for in Mass Effect 3? Just like Battlefield, No one bought Mass Effect 3 for the Multiplayer.

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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Still trying too hardMonsieurX

Shadowmoses trying to repair his "Internet Rep". Lol.

I really wonder about his life. It's hard to imagine someone so obsessed with his reputation on the Internet.

I find Activision way worse. Why do they get away while EA gets all the heat?

Mass Effect, you're right, Multiplayer is an option, but for what purpose was Multiplayer for in Mass Effect 3? Just like Battlefield, No one bought Mass Effect 3 for the Multiplayer.

LegatoSkyheart

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Yeah! I like getting games with unneeded Multiplayer or Singleplayer! (Mass Effect was the last game to get Multiplayer and Battlefield 3 did not need a Single Player.)

drinkerofjuice

Again, WHO BOUGHT MASS EFFECT 3 FOR THE MULTIPLAYER?

I guess I'm in the huge minority where I really didn't care for the Multiplayer.

It was good, because I played Gears of War, Gears of War was good, Mass Effect is not Gears of War. Multiplayer for Mass Effect is pretty much a watered down Gears of War.

Got very bored of the Multiplayer, turned it off and went right back to Gears 3.

ShadowMoses is NOT a good troll

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Mass Effect, you're right, Multiplayer is an option, but for what purpose was Multiplayer for in Mass Effect 3? Just like Battlefield, No one bought Mass Effect 3 for the Multiplayer.

drinkerofjuice

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

EA are a good COMPANY. However their practices are not about making gamers happy, they're about making money.

/thread.

Also before the on disc DLC nonsense starts cropping up, Microsoft do the same thing, Windows Starter disk contains all the features of Windows Ultimate but you don't get to use them. Wah wah wah go and learn what a software license is.

ShadowMoses900

I don't see what's wrong with them making a profit. They are a business, I support the right for people to make as much money as they want. That's what makes capitalism....capitalism. I do disagree with some of their practices, but they have every right to make money just like anyone else.

lol a shadowmoses thread.

quebec946

No, EA IS a bad company and deserves all of the hate they get. They continuously try to find ways to screw over their customers with DRM, micro transactions, pay to win games and let's not forget EA killed Westwood, Bioware, Visceral Games and others.

Sim City is a new EA atrocity though. Like online only saves, you don't own half the game, ton of DLC day 1 that would have probably been part of the game, elevated price.
Activision is a **** company too though. Sadly they get so much money that they even consider themselves important. If you look at their library it's a miracle that THQ went down and not Activision.

Also for the record: Dragon Age 2 was a lot better than Dragon Age Origins.ShadowMoses900

Yeah! I like getting games with unneeded Multiplayer or Singleplayer! (Mass Effect was the last game to get Multiplayer and Battlefield 3 did not need a Single Player.)

LegatoSkyheart

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Yeah! I like getting games with unneeded Multiplayer or Singleplayer! (Mass Effect was the last game to get Multiplayer and Battlefield 3 did not need a Single Player.)

LegatoSkyheart

No offense but I don't understand this line of thinking. Multiplayer is there as an option, it's there for people who like it, if you don't want to play it simply ignore it. Also Mass Effect 3's multiplayer is actually quite good, I like unlocking the different races and trying to survive against waves of enemies. Very strategic and great with friends.

Battlefield has never had a good single player, but it's still important to be in there. I hate games without single player modes.

The Main Line of Battlefield games were and for most Online Multiplayer games, or what not, Lan Parties can be had with Battlefield 1942 or whatever.

For some reason, EA thought it would be a good idea to put Single Player in Battlefield 3. For what purpose? Who knows, For Benchmarking? Maybe, but no one buys Battlefield for Single Player.

Mass Effect, you're right, Multiplayer is an option, but for what purpose was Multiplayer for in Mass Effect 3? Just like Battlefield, No one bought Mass Effect 3 for the Multiplayer.

Single player is a necessary component to games, especially console games. Without it there is no reason to buy the game in my book. EA knows what the market wants and it gives it, that's how you make money. People demand it, so you supply it. I don't see what's wrong with that.

The purpose for the multiplayer in Mass Effect 3 was simply to offer an option to players that want to try it, it also does effect some aspects of the story as you need to complete multiplayer levels to get your support readiness past 50% for the final mission.

You are right that no one bought the game for the multiplayer, but what's wrong with having it as an option? No one buys Halo or COD for the single player, it's there as an option.

What he means is it would have been nice if they would have just focussed on the single player component.KungfuKitten

Nothing is lost, something is gained. I couldn't care less if nobody bought ME3 for the multiplayer. If it's an engaging aspect, I see no reason to b1tch.

 No one buys Halo or COD for the single player

ShadowMoses900

Plenty of devs have died underneath other publishers before. I don't see why EA get's the blame for it, why did they die? Was it EA's fault? Or were the devs simply not making games that were doing well on the market?ShadowMoses900

 To get a better understanding of why people hate EA watch this it explains it better than I can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnWV1NooRX4

1.EA is notorious for thier horrible treatments of devs, their philosophy is something like this. "Why pay this veteran developer 40,000 dollars a year, when we can hire two kids right out of college, pay them 20,000 dollars a year, and treat them however we want?"

2.EA is one of the worst at DLC

3.They require some kind of tacked on multiplayer for all their games.

4.They utilize online passes

5.They are turning everything into bro shooters (Mass Effect, Dead Space, etc )

6.They are very anti-used games.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"] Plenty of devs have died underneath other publishers before. I don't see why EA get's the blame for it, why did they die? Was it EA's fault? Or were the devs simply not making games that were doing well on the market?Shielder7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnWV1NooRX4

You know what's funny? The only place I see EA haters is the internet. I don't ever see them in real life, when I go the stores I never hear anyone say "EA sucks", they simply buy their games and that's that.

I think it's just a small group of people who are made more vocal on the internet.