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Wii-U conference was awesome. Tuesday cannot come fast enough.

MY BODY IS READY TO JUMP BEYONNNNNNNNNNNNDDDDDDDDDDDD

I made the OP! :oops:

Terrible OP.

Anyway the only thing I'm remotely hyped for is the possibility of GTAV info/release date.

That and The Last of Us/Halo 4, but I have to sit through their companies sh*tty conferences for that so....

Terrible OP.

Anyway the only thing I'm remotely hyped for is the possibility of GTAV info/release date.

That and The Last of Us/Halo 4, but I have to sit through their companies sh*tty conferences for that so....

Slashless

Someone's mad they didn't get into the vox pop...

inb4 "Wahh Nintendo has a normal controller, they're copying!"

j hope they bring that butthurt argument about the controller looking like an xbox controller here.

naw but for real im excited to see the gears game,last of us, sony smash bros, possibly next gen news

possible news on super smash bros? hopefully? reggie? PLEASSE?

Oooohhh, look at the pretty graphics

me gusta

Someone's mad they didn't get into the vox pop...

D4W1L4H

I don't even remember voicing an opinion on it.

I will hopefully be able to see Nintendo and Sony's conferences, I don't think Microsoft will be worth watching this year.

j hope they bring that butthurt argument about the controller looking like an xbox controller here.

naw but for real im excited to see the gears game,last of us, sony smash bros, possibly next gen news

possible news on super smash bros? hopefully? reggie? PLEASSE?

eboyishere

[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

Someone's mad they didn't get into the vox pop...

Slashless

I don't even remember voicing an opinion on it.

oohhh, don't worry I'll put you in.

oohhh, don't worry I'll put you in.

D4W1L4H

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Is PC always left out in E3?

imagine the amount of gifs that will be created in the next few days :lol:

Is PC always left out in E3?

flashn00b

Is PC always left out in E3?

flashn00b

Developers have to bring that news themselves.

Not like it matters, since PC is dominating exclusives this year and next.

imagine the amount of gifs that will be created in the next few days :lol:

eboyishere

Can't wait for the MS E3 =p gonna have so many gifs.

imagine the amount of gifs that will be created in the next few days :lol:

eboyishere

mother of god

I am dissapointed in the sheepish backtracking by Nintendo on their controller by announcing the pro version. The tablet controller was the one big feature of the Wii-U, and now they offer a controller just like the others (looks alot like the 360 one).

i probably shouldn't do this because of the chaos it will start, but i will anyway. YOUTUBE SCREENIES!

Where is that video?

I'm not expecting too much from Microsoft, seeing that they lost Bungie and sacked Ensemble Studios years ago.

I am dissapointed in the sheepish backtracking by Nintendo on their controller by announcing the pro version. The tablet controller was the one big feature of the Wii-U, and now they offer a controller just like the others (looks alot like the 360 one).

OB-47

Uhhh, this changes nothing other than that they'll now get more third party support. You'll still see all the first party games using the Wii U pad.

Dat pre-E3 conference...

So excited now! Now we can expect just game after game for the actual conference. Why doesn't Microsoft do that to get their social media crap out of the way?

I am dissapointed in the sheepish backtracking by Nintendo on their controller by announcing the pro version. The tablet controller was the one big feature of the Wii-U, and now they offer a controller just like the others (looks alot like the 360 one).

OB-47

Me too. It's like they have no confidence in their own one being good that they have to offer a regular joypad

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

I am dissapointed in the sheepish backtracking by Nintendo on their controller by announcing the pro version. The tablet controller was the one big feature of the Wii-U, and now they offer a controller just like the others (looks alot like the 360 one).

PatchMaster

Uhhh, this changes nothing other than that they'll now get more third party support. You'll still see all the first party games using the Wii U pad.

Well that's worrying to me. Now we'll see more developers simply use the pro version controller instead of the tablet, which looks like the only really special thing to me about the whole console

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

I am dissapointed in the sheepish backtracking by Nintendo on their controller by announcing the pro version. The tablet controller was the one big feature of the Wii-U, and now they offer a controller just like the others (looks alot like the 360 one).

OB-47

Uhhh, this changes nothing other than that they'll now get more third party support. You'll still see all the first party games using the Wii U pad.

Well that's worrying to me. Now we'll see more developers simply use the pro version controller instead of the tablet, which looks like the only really special thing to me about the whole console

Did you honestly think we'd see more than a few third party games fully utilizing the touch screen anyway?

It's no different than the motion controls on Wii or the dual screens on DS. Abstaining from an orthodox control wouldn't really force or even persuade publishers to utilize the pad's potential.

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

I am dissapointed in the sheepish backtracking by Nintendo on their controller by announcing the pro version. The tablet controller was the one big feature of the Wii-U, and now they offer a controller just like the others (looks alot like the 360 one).

OB-47

Uhhh, this changes nothing other than that they'll now get more third party support. You'll still see all the first party games using the Wii U pad.

Well that's worrying to me. Now we'll see more developers simply use the pro version controller instead of the tablet, which looks like the only really special thing to me about the whole console

-Little third party support, little use of the Wii-U Tablet.

-Full third party support, little use of the Wii-U tablet.

If a dev wants to implement the Tablet into the game they have that option. If the dev doesn't want to deal wwith the tablet, they have the option not to yet still release their game on the platform.

We saw how forcing a third party dev to deal with inferior tech/Motion control worked for the Wii. Now devs have an option.

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

Uhhh, this changes nothing other than that they'll now get more third party support. You'll still see all the first party games using the Wii U pad.

PatchMaster

Well that's worrying to me. Now we'll see more developers simply use the pro version controller instead of the tablet, which looks like the only really special thing to me about the whole console

Did you honestly think we'd see more than a few third party games fully utilizing the touch screen anyway?

It's no different than the motion controls on Wii or the dual screens on DS. Abstaining from an orthodox control wouldn't really force or even persuade publishers to utilize the pad's potential.

I had a problem with that as well on the Wii. Why have it in traditional control methods, when other platforms such as the Xbox 360 and PS3 did traditional controls much better than the Wii and with much better graphics?

It's the same with the Wii-U, why should developers bother on Nintendo's console with a traditional control scheme when Microsoft and Sony do those so much better, as well as a renowned reputation of supporting 3rd party devs better than Nintendo?

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

Uhhh, this changes nothing other than that they'll now get more third party support. You'll still see all the first party games using the Wii U pad.

PatchMaster

Well that's worrying to me. Now we'll see more developers simply use the pro version controller instead of the tablet, which looks like the only really special thing to me about the whole console

Did you honestly think we'd see more than a few third party games fully utilizing the touch screen anyway?

It's no different than the motion controls on Wii or the dual screens on DS. Abstaining from an orthodox control wouldn't really force or even persuade publishers to utilize the pad's potential.

Whats the point of the WiiU then ? Obviously for its Nintendo exclusives and now stronger third party support but if its *gimmick* or the reason Nintendo is pushing its controller is simply not taken seriously by developers then that worries me. Im hoping the WiiU pad is used more then just a *Map* or *Inventory* in games with the developers actually trying to do something interesting with it. Its like the 3DS, the most fun I had out of it was with the AR Cards and Inbuilt mini games, yet all 3DS games are just pretty smoke and mirrors and don't take advantage of the 3D.

[QUOTE="Slashless"]

Terrible OP.

Anyway the only thing I'm remotely hyped for is the possibility of GTAV info/release date.

That and The Last of Us/Halo 4, but I have to sit through their companies sh*tty conferences for that so....

D4W1L4H

Someone's mad they didn't get into the vox pop...

Sorry to burst your bubble but they're not showing GTA V at E3.

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

Did you honestly think we'd see more than a few third party games fully utilizing the touch screen anyway?

It's no different than the motion controls on Wii or the dual screens on DS. Abstaining from an orthodox control wouldn't really force or even persuade publishers to utilize the pad's potential.

OB-47

I had a problem with that as well on the Wii. Why have it in traditional control methods, when other platforms such as the Xbox 360 and PS3 did traditional controls much better than the Wii and with much better graphics?

It's the same with the Wii-U, why should developers bother on Nintendo's console with a traditional control scheme when Microsoft and Sony do those so much better, as well as a renowned reputation of supporting 3rd party devs better than Nintendo?

How do Microsoft and Sony do traditional controls better? And what do you mean by supporting third party devs better? Most problems between Nintendo and other publishers stem from the publishers being afraid there games will be over-shadowed by Nintendo games.

[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

[QUOTE="Slashless"]

Terrible OP.

Anyway the only thing I'm remotely hyped for is the possibility of GTAV info/release date.

That and The Last of Us/Halo 4, but I have to sit through their companies sh*tty conferences for that so....

Burnt_Brains

Someone's mad they didn't get into the vox pop...

Sorry to burst your bubble but they're not showing GTA V at E3.

...ok.

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Well that's worrying to me. Now we'll see more developers simply use the pro version controller instead of the tablet, which looks like the only really special thing to me about the whole console

Blake135

Did you honestly think we'd see more than a few third party games fully utilizing the touch screen anyway?

It's no different than the motion controls on Wii or the dual screens on DS. Abstaining from an orthodox control wouldn't really force or even persuade publishers to utilize the pad's potential.

Whats the point of the WiiU then ? Obviously for its Nintendo exclusives and now stronger third party support but if its *gimmick* or the reason Nintendo is pushing its controller is simply not taken seriously by developers then that worries me. Im hoping the WiiU pad is used more then just a *Map* or *Inventory* in games with the developers actually trying to do something interesting with it. Its like the 3DS, the most fun I had out of it was with the AR Cards and Inbuilt mini games, yet all 3DS games are just pretty smoke and mirrors and don't take advantage of the 3D.

I dunno. What was the point of the Wii or the DS? I'd say to make money ...which they did.

And why wouldn't the tablet be taken seriously by publishers? It's not going anywhere. It's not like it's some tacked on peripheral that will be discontinued if it's not a hit. The thing is here to stay. It is entirely in publishers hands whether they utilize it or not. The classic controller doesn't change that.

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

Did you honestly think we'd see more than a few third party games fully utilizing the touch screen anyway?

It's no different than the motion controls on Wii or the dual screens on DS. Abstaining from an orthodox control wouldn't really force or even persuade publishers to utilize the pad's potential.

PatchMaster

I had a problem with that as well on the Wii. Why have it in traditional control methods, when other platforms such as the Xbox 360 and PS3 did traditional controls much better than the Wii and with much better graphics?

It's the same with the Wii-U, why should developers bother on Nintendo's console with a traditional control scheme when Microsoft and Sony do those so much better, as well as a renowned reputation of supporting 3rd party devs better than Nintendo?

How do Microsoft and Sony do traditional controls better? And what do you mean by supporting third party devs better? Most problems between Nintendo and other publishers stem from the publishers being afraid there games will be over-shadowed by Nintendo games.

What I meant to say is, Ms and Sony already do traditional control methods and powerful consoles. Nintendo is now known for it's different control methods and innovation in that sector. If the company doesn't have enough confidence in their control method that it places it as their sole one, then what does the Wii-U have over the others? Surely the next consoles from MS and Sony will be of equal if not more power to that of Nintendo's

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

I am dissapointed in the sheepish backtracking by Nintendo on their controller by announcing the pro version. The tablet controller was the one big feature of the Wii-U, and now they offer a controller just like the others (looks alot like the 360 one).

OB-47

Uhhh, this changes nothing other than that they'll now get more third party support. You'll still see all the first party games using the Wii U pad.

Well that's worrying to me. Now we'll see more developers simply use the pro version controller instead of the tablet, which looks like the only really special thing to me about the whole console

Of course the Wii U version of PS3/360/Wii U multiplats will be compatible with a standard DA controller, doesn't that make sense to you? Some games will probably still have significant tablet enhanced features. We already heard some new ideas about Ghost Recon Online and we saw some Wii U exclusive stuff in the Rayman Legends leak.

Other 3rd party titles that are exclusive to Wii U such as Killer Freaks will be made for the GamePad from the ground up (SP) and you'll use wiimotes/pro controller for local multiplayer.

As for PS4/Xbox3/Wii U multiplats, let's not jump to conclusions. I think they will all be tablet based and that changes everything.

1st party Wii U games will primarily use the GamePad, as well as Wiimotes when deemed necessary.

There is a logical explanation for everything if you think it through, however I agree the whole situation regarding the controllers is messy.

But it does offer the best solution for Nintendo. This way Zelda and Wii Sports can still be Wii Remote Plus based, since everyone and their mom owns a Wiimote. While utilizing the GamePad's new features in unique new ways. While having Pro Controllers for core gamers to play their multiplats with. It's brilliant really

Nintendo has it this year I say.

Nintendo has it this year I say.

lulmont

Yeah no doubt they are going out guns blazing, going to be a amazing E3 from Nintendo.

I wondr who will win their E3 conferences on my BDay.I predict sony will win and MS will do a bit better then last year.

Fuark. E3 in less than 12 hours.

My body isnt ready. :o

Fuark. E3 in less than 12 hours.

My body isnt ready. :o

StrongDeadlift

Nintendo will have the best one and I will watch Sony's too.

MS will probably have another horrible showing.