DX12 will not solve XBones 1080p problems

#101 Edited by Spitfire-Six (501 posts) -

@evildead6789: Flops are the measure of graphical computational prowess, GPU's have ALU's that better than CPU's for calculating floats. The actual float data type is what is used to store vertices of a primitive so the faster a chip can calculate those numbers the better it is for graphics and rendering. There is more to a GPU than just its flops number but to say that FLOPs is not an accurate measure of a GPU'S power is not accurate.

#102 Edited by evildead6789 (7419 posts) -

@evildead6789: Flops are the measure of graphical computational prowess, GPU's have ALU's that better than CPU's for calculating floats. The actual float data type is what is used to store vertices of a primitive so the faster a chip can calculate those numbers the better it is for graphics and rendering. There is more to a GPU than just its flops number but to say that FLOPs is not an accurate measure of a GPU'S power is not accurate.

i never said that

but will you run a system only with a gpu?

I don't think so

#103 Posted by Spitfire-Six (501 posts) -

@lostrib said:
@evildead6789 said:

@tormentos said:

@evildead6789 said:

Yes the ps3 has more tflops than the ps4, look it up. Tflops don't give the right picture, computational power isn't everything. A supercomputer without 3d acceleration won't run any games and can have the tflops of a dozen ps4's.

The 7790 desktop version has a 128 bit interface. The x1 gpu has a 256 bit interface The double bit rate makes up for the lesser clock speed and lesser cu's. Microsoft did this to avoid bottlenecks with a 128 bit internface.

Stop disccuing topics that you do not understand. You really need to get of your high horse, you act like mr know it all and you can't even understand basic bits and bytes.

I told you to go school before you argue with me lol.

Son go discus your secret sauce else where the xbox one can have a 512 bit bus and will mean sh** with its crappy GPU,the bus wight doesn't make out for CU and speed deficiency.

Since when the bus is a flop generator,performance comes from CU not from the bus,if you have a small bus and a power GPU you will bet bottle neck,if you have a weak GPU and a wide bus don't expect miracles that bus will not help the GPU over come its lack of power.

The fact that you still trying to argue that the PS3 has more flops than the PS4 says it all.

dude you really have no clue what you're talking about , you just look up some article but you don't understand the information.

At the memory speeds the hd 7790 runs 256 bit will increase it's performance even with the ddr3 speeds.I know what you're going to say, that's not true. Sadly for you it is. Cards like the gts 250 for instance are 256 bit cards with DDR3 memory. Do you really think they will double the bit rate, increase the price, just for the fun of it.

Not to mention that 256 bit bus is needed to communicate with the esram as well

the ps3 has 2.18 fflops, the ps4 has 2 tflops, that's because the cell cpu on the ps3 was and is still very powerfull, had the machine released a couple years later when a much strong gpu, the system would still be viable today.

Computer class is done, now get outta here with your nonsense

First off, what is an fflop? Second, where are you getting these numbers?

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-3-vs-playstation-4-in-depth-spec-comparison/#!bvTzUa

a tflop is a terra flop, zo a billion of flops, a flop is a floating operation point per second

It's a measurement for the computational power of a processing unit chip. The thing is, there's more than one chip in a pc and they're all used for different purposes. A chip can be very strong computational , but if it isn't designed for something like 3d rendering , then it doesn't matter how much tflops it has.

An old 3d card will still be better at rendering a 3d game than a supercomputer that is made to analyze chess matches for example.

This is the post I was talking about," if it isn't designed for something like 3d rendering, then it doesn't matter how many flops it has."

What Im saying is if the ALU was designed with FLOPs in mind then it was designed for 3D rendering. If a chip is strong in int, doubles, and longs its not designed for graphics. It can compute graphics because those floats will then be converted over into another data type but as you could guess this slows down the computational speed. I get the point you are trying to make just trying to help make the information as accurate as possible.

#104 Edited by lostrib (34277 posts) -

@lostrib said:
@evildead6789 said:

dude you really have no clue what you're talking about , you just look up some article but you don't understand the information.

At the memory speeds the hd 7790 runs 256 bit will increase it's performance even with the ddr3 speeds.I know what you're going to say, that's not true. Sadly for you it is. Cards like the gts 250 for instance are 256 bit cards with DDR3 memory. Do you really think they will double the bit rate, increase the price, just for the fun of it.

Not to mention that 256 bit bus is needed to communicate with the esram as well

the ps3 has 2.18 fflops, the ps4 has 2 tflops, that's because the cell cpu on the ps3 was and is still very powerfull, had the machine released a couple years later when a much strong gpu, the system would still be viable today.

Computer class is done, now get outta here with your nonsense

First off, what is an fflop? Second, where are you getting these numbers?

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-3-vs-playstation-4-in-depth-spec-comparison/#!bvTzUa

a tflop is a terra flop, zo a billion of flops, a flop is a floating operation point per second

It's a measurement for the computational power of a processing unit chip. The thing is, there's more than one chip in a pc and they're all used for different purposes. A chip can be very strong computational , but if it isn't designed for something like 3d rendering , then it doesn't matter how much tflops it has.

An old 3d card will still be better at rendering a 3d game than a supercomputer that is made to analyze chess matches for example.

I know what a TFLOP is, I was just making fun of your typo

#105 Posted by mikhail (1092 posts) -

Sometimes reading these topics is a lot like watching a bunch of orangutans discuss theoretical physics.

#106 Posted by Spitfire-Six (501 posts) -

@mikhail: its ok to admit when you don't understand the discussion.

#107 Posted by scatteh316 (4839 posts) -

Under powered and with no games... TLHBO

#108 Edited by FastRobby (1226 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@FastRobby said:

First DX12 game, late 2015, Witcher 3, February 24. But keep drinking it cows

DX12 is on xbox one since day 1,is all about lower CPU over head which the xbox one had since launch and so did the xbox 360.

First DX 12 game on PC late 2015 on xbox one they are already there since day 1,this is coming from a developer so yeah save your damage controls,recently even Phill Spencer admit DX12 would not do much for the xbox one,you most have miss it..lol

Yeah it's not, but keep believing it is.

EA Battlefield Hardline developer:

Leonid Melikhov: Have you had problems with the Xbox One’s eSRAM?

Ian Milham: No, absolutely not. The fact that we partnered for Sony for the beta we’re doing has nothing to do with what our development is on the Xbox One. All of our development on the Xbox One has been going great as well and it looks great on that platform.

Leonid Melikhov: How do you guys feel about DirectX 12?

Ian Milahm: They’re cooking up some pretty crazy stuff – the Frostbite team with the latest things. It’s always pretty impressive, we are going to try to get in every feature we can before we ship.

I included the question about eSRAM to make sure you understand the fact that they were talking about Xbox One, because you might think he meant for PC.

It's ok, don't cry, this isn't the first time you get owned, you always get up, and try again. Nice try ;)

#110 Posted by gpuking (2758 posts) -

Did any of you lems actually believed dx12 would bring you DAT 1080p? I weep for you if you did. The sooner you all accept the truth the sooner MS can kill off the Bone and bring out the successor, do not torture yourself with 792p, low fps and missing graphics features. God damn.

#111 Posted by sts106mat (18954 posts) -

@gpuking said:

Did any of you lems actually believed dx12 would bring you DAT 1080p? I weep for you if you did. The sooner you all accept the truth the sooner MS can kill off the Bone and bring out the successor, do not torture yourself with 792p, low fps and missing graphics features. God damn.

Xbox had 1080p 60fps with Forza 5.

Alien Isolation / destiny, both will be 1080p, confirmed by the devs.

Why did you even bother typing that shit?

#112 Edited by Alcapello (770 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

@gpuking said:

Did any of you lems actually believed dx12 would bring you DAT 1080p? I weep for you if you did. The sooner you all accept the truth the sooner MS can kill off the Bone and bring out the successor, do not torture yourself with 792p, low fps and missing graphics features. God damn.

Xbox had 1080p 60fps with Forza 5.

Alien Isolation / destiny, both will be 1080p, confirmed by the devs.

Why did you even bother typing that shit?

lol and on-railed racer

choo-choos!!! lol

#113 Posted by ShoTTyMcNaDeS (1989 posts) -

Under powered and with no games... TLHBO

Halo TMCC, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Below, Scalebound, Ori and the Blind Forest, D4, Fable Legends, Halo 5, Quantum Break, Crackdown 3, Gears of War and every single multiplat that the PS4 is getting.....Yep, you are right, NO GAMES!

GTFO TROLL!!!!

#114 Posted by ShoTTyMcNaDeS (1989 posts) -

@gpuking said:

Did any of you lems actually believed dx12 would bring you DAT 1080p? I weep for you if you did. The sooner you all accept the truth the sooner MS can kill off the Bone and bring out the successor, do not torture yourself with 792p, low fps and missing graphics features. God damn.

Where is tis 792p coming from. Ryse was 900p and 30 fps, Forza 5 was 1080p and 30 fps, CoD Ghosts was 900p and 60 fps, BF4 was 900p and 30 fps, Destiny and Alien Isolation are both confirmed by devs to be 1080p on the X1. So Im not sure where you are getting your info!

#115 Posted by Snugenz (11813 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

@gpuking said:

Did any of you lems actually believed dx12 would bring you DAT 1080p? I weep for you if you did. The sooner you all accept the truth the sooner MS can kill off the Bone and bring out the successor, do not torture yourself with 792p, low fps and missing graphics features. God damn.

Xbox had 1080p 60fps with Forza 5.

Alien Isolation / destiny, both will be 1080p, confirmed by the devs.

Why did you even bother typing that shit?

lol and on-railed racer

choo-choos!!! lol

Either you're just playing stupid or you're just plain stupid.

#116 Edited by sts106mat (18954 posts) -

@alcapello said:

@sts106mat said:

@gpuking said:

Did any of you lems actually believed dx12 would bring you DAT 1080p? I weep for you if you did. The sooner you all accept the truth the sooner MS can kill off the Bone and bring out the successor, do not torture yourself with 792p, low fps and missing graphics features. God damn.

Xbox had 1080p 60fps with Forza 5.

Alien Isolation / destiny, both will be 1080p, confirmed by the devs.

Why did you even bother typing that shit?

lol and on-railed racer

choo-choos!!! lol

lol still better than any PS4 racer.

good job ignoring destiny and Alien

@ShoTTyMcNaDeS Forza 5 = 1080p & 60fps

#117 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (6133 posts) -

No one knows what DX12 is capable of outside of Microsoft.

The PS4 gets 1080p by emiminating things on the screen.

Take away shadows, people and cars and decrease the draw distance and add fog.

You want to compare this to the mighty DX12?

Hell the last SDK already got the One 1080p

#118 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (4028 posts) -

Justin, Simon, Robby and the rest of the lemmings are taking this news very badly.

Don't worry lads, the cloud will save the Xbox Done.

#119 Posted by gpuking (2758 posts) -

@ShoTTyMcNaDeS

BF4 is 720p on XBone, Titanfall 792p, Watch Dogs 792p, MGSV GZ 720p, COD Ghosts 720p, Dead Rising 3 720p, Killer Instinct 720p, I might have missed some too. So yeah.

#120 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (4028 posts) -

REmake is 1080p on the Bone. Dat SDK is really making the difference. TCHBO.

#121 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (6133 posts) -

At first I read this thread title as "2014 will not solve Sony's no game problems"

#122 Edited by evildead6789 (7419 posts) -

@gpuking said:

@ShoTTyMcNaDeS

BF4 is 720p on XBone, Titanfall 792p, Watch Dogs 792p, MGSV GZ 720p, COD Ghosts 720p, Dead Rising 3 720p, Killer Instinct 720p, I might have missed some too. So yeah.

cross gen games, made without esram tools

Some are even exlusives

#123 Posted by sts106mat (18954 posts) -

REmake is 1080p on the Bone. Dat SDK is really making the difference.

Watchdogs is 900p on PS4.......dat 1080p 60fps that only PS4 can provide

#124 Posted by kuu2 (6961 posts) -

Jr. Hardware engineer thread.

MooGenja should really stay away from talking about tech and how it will improve The One.

#125 Edited by geniobastardo (1294 posts) -

I love this gen.

#126 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (4028 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

REmake is 1080p on the Bone. Dat SDK is really making the difference.

Watchdogs is 900p on PS4.......dat 1080p 60fps that only PS4 can provide

Do you really want to bring up Watch Dogs, 720p with more frame rate issues on the Bone? May as well have tried Sniper Elite 3.

#127 Posted by sts106mat (18954 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

REmake is 1080p on the Bone. Dat SDK is really making the difference.

Watchdogs is 900p on PS4.......dat 1080p 60fps that only PS4 can provide

Do you really want to bring up Watch Dogs, 720p with more frame rate issues on the Bone? May as well have tried Sniper Elite 3.

just pointing out the stupidity. I played watch dogs at 900p....

on my PS4.....

it still hasn't turned me into a brain dead PS4 fanboy

#128 Posted by SecretPolice (21455 posts) -

At first I read this thread title as "2014 will not solve Sony's no game problems"

If only PS Bore had some compelling games then TC and his ilk may have something better to do than bash X1 whenever they can day & night... Sheeeesh get a job..... or is this it? :P

#129 Posted by tormentos (17044 posts) -

dude you really have no clue what you're talking about , you just look up some article but you don't understand the information.

At the memory speeds the hd 7790 runs 256 bit will increase it's performance even with the ddr3 speeds.I know what you're going to say, that's not true. Sadly for you it is. Cards like the gts 250 for instance are 256 bit cards with DDR3 memory. Do you really think they will double the bit rate, increase the price, just for the fun of it.

Not to mention that 256 bit bus is needed to communicate with the esram as well

the ps3 has 2.18 fflops, the ps4 has 2 tflops, that's because the cell cpu on the ps3 was and is still very powerfull, had the machine released a couple years later when a much strong gpu, the system would still be viable today.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-3-vs-playstation-4-in-depth-spec-comparison/#!bvTzUa

computerclass is over

STFU you silly lemming,a 256 bit buss will not increase performance,the xbox one GPU is weak period,is not a full 7790 is basically a 7770 with a 256 bit bus,which changes nothing.

That bus on the xbox one is like having a 5 lane race track so you can run with ease,but your car is a freaking Hyundai Accent.

The xbox one lack the horse power and nothing MS does will change that.

GPU: RSX “Reality Synthesizer” @ 550MHz, 1.8 T-FLOPS floating point performance

This ^^ from your link is totally wrong,it was a shameless lie the PS3 GPU wasn't 1.8TF the GPU inside the PS3 was a gimped 7800GTX which is far from 1.8TF,the sane sh** happen with AMD which claimed the xbox 360 was 1 TF,those systems were not even close to that in actual performance.

The 7800GTX was like 200Gflops and the PS3 GPU is a cut down version,so no is not 1.8TF stop saying stupid things.

#130 Edited by evildead6789 (7419 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@evildead6789 said:

dude you really have no clue what you're talking about , you just look up some article but you don't understand the information.

At the memory speeds the hd 7790 runs 256 bit will increase it's performance even with the ddr3 speeds.I know what you're going to say, that's not true. Sadly for you it is. Cards like the gts 250 for instance are 256 bit cards with DDR3 memory. Do you really think they will double the bit rate, increase the price, just for the fun of it.

Not to mention that 256 bit bus is needed to communicate with the esram as well

the ps3 has 2.18 fflops, the ps4 has 2 tflops, that's because the cell cpu on the ps3 was and is still very powerfull, had the machine released a couple years later when a much strong gpu, the system would still be viable today.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-3-vs-playstation-4-in-depth-spec-comparison/#!bvTzUa

computerclass is over

STFU you silly lemming,a 256 bit buss will not increase performance,the xbox one GPU is weak period,is not a full 7790 is basically a 7770 with a 256 bit bus,which changes nothing.

That bus on the xbox one is like having a 5 lane race track so you can run with ease,but your car is a freaking Hyundai Accent.

The xbox one lack the horse power and nothing MS does will change that.

GPU: RSX “Reality Synthesizer” @ 550MHz, 1.8 T-FLOPS floating point performance

This ^^ from your link is totally wrong,it was a shameless lie the PS3 GPU wasn't 1.8TF the GPU inside the PS3 was a gimped 7800GTX which is far from 1.8TF,the sane sh** happen with AMD which claimed the xbox 360 was 1 TF,those systems were not even close to that in actual performance.

The 7800GTX was like 200Gflops and the PS3 GPU is a cut down version,so no is not 1.8TF stop saying stupid things.

dude, that's why flops don't mean anything when you're talking about game consoles. Those numbers are right , wether you like it or not. The rsx maybe based of a 7800 gtx, it isn't a 7800 gtx.

If the 256 bit bus doesn't mean anything on the x1 gpu, why does the gts 250, 9800 gtx and 8800 gtx have a 256 bit bus. They're only half the power of a hd 7790 and have ddr3 as well. If i would follow your reasoning, nvidia would have given these cards a 256 bit bus for no reason. A gtx 660ti has a 192 bit bus, if the bit bus was just like a highway, this card would be severly bottlenecked, and this in a very competive market.

Numerous weaker cards have 256 bit busses , run at slower memory and clock speeds than the 660 ti, also in a competive market.

A bit bus isn't like a highway, Go to computer school and then start arguing with me, now you just making a fool of yourself. And again, the 256 bit is also needed to communicate with the esram.

You don't understand how bitrates work and all you do is try to get the pie of your face lol., all because you want your ps4 to be that much stronger than a xboxone.

Sadly, it isn't , it has an edge, but nothing like you make it out to be. Stop crying and telling lies

#131 Edited by FastRobby (1226 posts) -

@tormentos When you start a reaction with "STFU", you know no one will take you seriously... You just look like an angry teenager thinking he knows anything by reading SonyGAF, and just copy/pasting from there. Trying to hide the insecurity of buying the console you want to be the best, for some weird reason.

#132 Posted by sts106mat (18954 posts) -

@tormentos When you start a reaction with "STFU", you know no one will take you seriously... You just look like an angry teenager thinking he knows anything by reading SonyGAF, and just copy/pasting from there. Trying to hide the insecurity of buying the console you want to be the best, for some weird reason.

he is a sony fanboy and admits it. But he seems to care about it so much, that it strikes me he is the kind of person who is a fanboy of other things too. I bet he is a fanboy of the type of mobile phone he has etc

#133 Edited by Shewgenja (8446 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

Jr. Hardware engineer thread.

MooGenja should really stay away from talking about tech and how it will improve The One.

I am confident in my technical knowledge. After all, I knew all along that DX12 was not going to give some dramatic performance results in a cosnole. It appears I was correct.

#134 Posted by Shewgenja (8446 posts) -

@scatteh316 said:

Under powered and with no games... TLHBO

Halo TMCC, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Below, Scalebound, Ori and the Blind Forest, D4, Fable Legends, Halo 5, Quantum Break, Crackdown 3, Gears of War and every single multiplat that the PS4 is getting.....Yep, you are right, NO GAMES!

GTFO TROLL!!!!

I seriously can't laugh hard enough when we have to time travel to the future for the XBone to have games. After all, they could be rated as garbage when they come out. Then again, you are apparently a troll and a cow when you state the obvious these days, too.

#135 Posted by FastRobby (1226 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

@tormentos When you start a reaction with "STFU", you know no one will take you seriously... You just look like an angry teenager thinking he knows anything by reading SonyGAF, and just copy/pasting from there. Trying to hide the insecurity of buying the console you want to be the best, for some weird reason.

he is a sony fanboy and admits it. But he seems to care about it so much, that it strikes me he is the kind of person who is a fanboy of other things too. I bet he is a fanboy of the type of mobile phone he has etc

From the moment you admit you are a fanboy of something, you can't really be taken seriously anymore on any subject regaring the competitors of the product itself.

#136 Edited by regnaston (231 posts) -

@chikenfriedrice said:

Is the Witcher 3 confirmed 1080P on the PS4? ( real question )

I wouldn't call it a confirmation as the game is a ways off from release, but this is the latest article I could find on the issue and it states that it is 1080p on PS4.

Link.

According to that linked article, at that time they were still using the Kinect in the game to call out spells. If that is still the case, then DX12 will not matter as it only allows DEVS to use the 10% reserved for Kinect processes if the Kinect is not used. Since it is being used, they do not get the extra 10%

I personally can not tell the difference between 720 and 1080p on my TV (50" LG Plasma).. maybe some people can, but I cant so it does not matter to me.

#137 Posted by regnaston (231 posts) -

@mikhail said:

Sometimes reading these topics is a lot like watching a bunch of orangutans discuss theoretical physics.

best line of the thread :D

#138 Edited by Shewgenja (8446 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

@sts106mat said:

@FastRobby said:

@tormentos When you start a reaction with "STFU", you know no one will take you seriously... You just look like an angry teenager thinking he knows anything by reading SonyGAF, and just copy/pasting from there. Trying to hide the insecurity of buying the console you want to be the best, for some weird reason.

he is a sony fanboy and admits it. But he seems to care about it so much, that it strikes me he is the kind of person who is a fanboy of other things too. I bet he is a fanboy of the type of mobile phone he has etc

From the moment you admit you are a fanboy of something, you can't really be taken seriously anymore on any subject regaring the competitors of the product itself.

So, if a Sony fanboy told you the sky is blue, it could not be true. Yes? Because, it's not the Sony fanboys who are your problem, then.

Math and Science dictate that the XBone is much weaker than the PS4 at this point. Blaming others for your fantasy land posting bullshit won't get you very far.

#139 Edited by Shewgenja (8446 posts) -

@regnaston said:

I personally can not tell the difference between 720 and 1080p on my TV (50" LG Plasma).. maybe some people can, but I cant so it does not matter to me.

That's probably not a good thing.

#140 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (6133 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

At first I read this thread title as "2014 will not solve Sony's no game problems"

If only PS Bore had some compelling games then TC and his ilk may have something better to do than bash X1 whenever they can day & night... Sheeeesh get a job..... or is this it? :P

Sony is cutting back on the paid shills they have scouring the internet sites that promote the PS4. They will be looking for new jobs soon. :(

#141 Posted by evildead6789 (7419 posts) -

@mikhail said:

Sometimes reading these topics is a lot like watching a bunch of orangutans discuss theoretical physics.

best line of the thread :D

if you guys are so smart why don't you give some input. I'm sure you understand how a bit bus works , don't you?

#142 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (4028 posts) -

Robby, Simon and Justin still taking the news badly.

#143 Edited by Shewgenja (8446 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@SecretPolice said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

At first I read this thread title as "2014 will not solve Sony's no game problems"

If only PS Bore had some compelling games then TC and his ilk may have something better to do than bash X1 whenever they can day & night... Sheeeesh get a job..... or is this it? :P

Sony is cutting back on the paid shills they have scouring the internet sites that promote the PS4. They will be looking for new jobs soon. :(

As soon as your ilk draw away from personal attacks to defend your plastic box. If you can't beat the message, by all means, attack the messenger.

#144 Posted by evildead6789 (7419 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

@sts106mat said:

@FastRobby said:

@tormentos When you start a reaction with "STFU", you know no one will take you seriously... You just look like an angry teenager thinking he knows anything by reading SonyGAF, and just copy/pasting from there. Trying to hide the insecurity of buying the console you want to be the best, for some weird reason.

he is a sony fanboy and admits it. But he seems to care about it so much, that it strikes me he is the kind of person who is a fanboy of other things too. I bet he is a fanboy of the type of mobile phone he has etc

From the moment you admit you are a fanboy of something, you can't really be taken seriously anymore on any subject regaring the competitors of the product itself.

So, if a Sony fanboy told you the sky is blue, it could not be true. Yes? Because, it's not the Sony fanboys who are your problem, then.

Math and Science dictate that the XBone is much weaker than the PS4 at this point. Blaming others for your fantasy land posting bullshit won't get you very far.

If you would understand math and science , you wouldn't be saying such things

#145 Posted by Shewgenja (8446 posts) -

If you would understand math and science , you wouldn't be saying such things

Is that so? Are you going to speak in riddles and platitudes or explain?

I have my money on riddles and platitudes. That's all we've been getting since the XBone was revealed.

#146 Posted by FastRobby (1226 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

@sts106mat said:

@FastRobby said:

@tormentos When you start a reaction with "STFU", you know no one will take you seriously... You just look like an angry teenager thinking he knows anything by reading SonyGAF, and just copy/pasting from there. Trying to hide the insecurity of buying the console you want to be the best, for some weird reason.

he is a sony fanboy and admits it. But he seems to care about it so much, that it strikes me he is the kind of person who is a fanboy of other things too. I bet he is a fanboy of the type of mobile phone he has etc

From the moment you admit you are a fanboy of something, you can't really be taken seriously anymore on any subject regaring the competitors of the product itself.

So, if a Sony fanboy told you the sky is blue, it could not be true. Yes? Because, it's not the Sony fanboys who are your problem, then.

Math and Science dictate that the XBone is much weaker than the PS4 at this point. Blaming others for your fantasy land posting bullshit won't get you very far.

Did you not read my sentence properly? I'm not saying that fanboys are wrong about everything, I'm just saying that you shouldn't take everything for true when it comes out of the mouth of a fanboy. There is a reason why you are being called a fanboy, not just because you are a fan of PlayStations, but because you behave as if Sony is god, and everything is correct what they do, and all the competitors are shit and don't know what they are doing. Well when you think like that, I don't believe you are telling the truth regarding subjects of competitors. If you really think like a buffoon, you can easily twist words, leave other out of the quotations, etc. All things Tormentos already did. Also what are his credentials? Did he ever said what he studied, or what kind of work he does?

#147 Posted by evildead6789 (7419 posts) -

@evildead6789 said:

If you would understand math and science , you wouldn't be saying such things

Is that so? Are you going to speak in riddles and platitudes or explain?

I have my money on riddles and platitudes. That's all we've been getting since the XBone was revealed.

Maybe you haven't been following the discussion.

#148 Posted by StormyJoe (4867 posts) -

@Shewgenja: StormyJoe reads the article. Notices the paragraph:

Since the console's launch last November, there's been controversy surrounding the apparent difficultiesdevelopers have when attempting to get their games running at 1080p resolution. June's update to the Xbox One software development kit--different than DirectX--opened up an additional 10 percent processing power for developers to use, which has helped some games like Destiny reach 1080p on the console.

Points at shewgenja and laughs.

#149 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (4028 posts) -

Would it be considered animal cruelty to keep ripping away lemming hopes and dreams like this?

#150 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (6133 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@SecretPolice said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

At first I read this thread title as "2014 will not solve Sony's no game problems"

If only PS Bore had some compelling games then TC and his ilk may have something better to do than bash X1 whenever they can day & night... Sheeeesh get a job..... or is this it? :P

Sony is cutting back on the paid shills they have scouring the internet sites that promote the PS4. They will be looking for new jobs soon. :(

As soon as your ilk draw away from personal attacks to defend your plastic box. If you can't beat the message, by all means, attack the messenger.

This should help any wrong doing that may have occurred.