Driveclub Vs Forza Horizon 2

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Poll: Driveclub Vs Forza Horizon 2 (170 votes)

Driveclub 45%
Forza Horizon 2 55%

Which game is going to be better? Looks better? Which game is more worth?

Driveclub

Forza Horizon 2

Driveclub

Forza Horizon 2

#201 Posted by Draign (803 posts) -

DC is a poor excuse for a driving game. Even need for speed has tuning. Even grand theft auto has tuning.

#202 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (5162 posts) -

@slimdogmilionar said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:
@slimdogmilionar said:

Lol I do see how it could improve gameplay but the fact is that the Forza team actually rode in the cars on real roads no virtual "rolling road" or technical information was used.

Considering you can't emulate the feel of riding in a real car in a videogame, I fail to see that relevance other than the devs enjoying the perks of the job on Phil's expense. Nice thinking.

Oh wow....so now virtual speculation is better than real life experimenting and data collecting? LMAO, just stop being biased and admit it already DC is all graphics, it's ok to admit that a game on a system other than yours is more fun, or has better content.

Yeah, I bet they ironed it out so well with sliding round a track instead of tweaking in a technical environment.

#203 Edited by Strutten (1205 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@slimdogmilionar said:

@xboxiphoneps3 said:

@slimdogmilionar:

Tell me how FH2 is more technically advanced?

Higher polygon count on DC cars

Real star constellations and dynamic cloud movements

Tracks dont get damaged, but the cars have a very detailed physics and damage system, much more in depth then FH2

The best car audio recordings ever , in a video game too. The car audio recordings for driveclub are so good that a few car manufacturers have actually requested the audio clips from the Driveclub devs because its better then their factory recordings

The crowd and people and environment looks so much better then FH2

Dynamic weather coming in a patch with much more effects then FH2, rain effects are pretty ass compared to DC rain

There is much more going on in Driveclub then FH2,

Tell me how FH2 is more technically advanced?

And lmao at people saying the Driveclub footage they see is being rendered on a PC not even few months before the games release that makes absolutely no sense i dont even know how some people are claiming that, lemming logic tho ,

FH2 is not as quite technically advanced as Driveclub, im talking straightly about technical detail in both games, in terms of what will be more fun to play, both look like a ton of fun, but Driveclub reminds me alot of PGR which was awesome , im hyped for DC

How is Forza more Technically advanced?

For starters it's one big open world map 3 over three times the size of the first Horizon. Second the huge open world area has a working model of Earth's atmosphere which is continuously in motion like in real life( so what where you saying about dynamic cloud movement?). Third the cars don't handle like an arcade racer like the people who have demoed the game say. 200+ cars, real dynamic weather, 100+ hours completion, barn finds, track your friends in the world in real time based on where they are driving and the list goes on. DC looks good and that's it but the fact remains that there is a lot more going on in Forza at one time than there is in DC and when DC players are done with the game Forza players will just be scratching the surface of what secrets lie awaiting in the open world of Italy and France. Notice I didn't say graphically advanced because that's the one thing DC has going for it but all of the stuff you listed aside from the higher polygon count are in Forza plus more, with no breaks because it's a persistent dynamic world. So how is DC more technically advanced than Forza aside from graphics? Lol at rain effects being ass because DC cars still hug the road like it's dry in the rain, note in the top video how the Mercedes ass end gets clipped by the Ferrari but nothing happens, in the second DC clip the car went from like 120 to like 35 mph in the rain without sliding, the game looks good but it lacks depth.

By this comment I can tell you are clueless. For starters, being open world does not mean more advanced. DriveClub also has the earths atmosphere that actually continues on race after race if you are in the same location. Or you can set custom races to have any weather condition. But continuous weather that is random and dynamic is very possible. The weather effects them selves are far more advanced. Each rain drop is a particle. And rain drops on the car bonnet and wind shield actually move back to the speed of the car in real time. The clouds in DC are volumetric and has realistic light defusion from the sun. Much more advanced tech than FH2. The environments are much more detailed. The Cars are much more detailed. Reflections are much more detailed, every single thing. But you insist that FH2 is more advanced just because it's open world and has a continuous day and night cycle (like NFS Rivals or any other open world car game) with random weather. Regardless of the fact that the weather effects themselves are far less advanced. Technically, FH2 is far out gunned by DriveClub. That said, the content in the game is very persuading. I like the game a lot.

* Just a funny thought/thing on the bolded part - I'm pretty sure that what you guys said that about ryse and infamous ? that it was waaaaay more advanced, since it was an open world/sandbox game (infamous) ? and just by that made it more advanced, than an "corridor hack/slash game (ryse)", isnt that pretty much the same here, just its the opposite this time around ?.. i would dare to say that other than textures and weather effects in DC, it seems pretty bland otherwise IMO (except, if its something similar like PGR *gameplay* like)- pretty game yes, but it really screams very arcadey racer - but lets see how both will do when they get released.

Anyway who the effing cares which is more demanding, seems like people tends to know everything about the engines, development and so on, it like people only care about if its a "pretty game" etc etc. instead looking at which would be more appealing to the masses and actually which one would be the better/fun in gameplay? but so far it seems like its gonna be FH 2, if its anything like or better than FH 1, But i have my hopes up for DC tho.


#204 Posted by _WilliamWallace (17 posts) -

The Crew > FH 2 > Driveclub.

#205 Edited by delta3074 (18434 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@slimdogmilionar said:

Forza has 1 map? You do realize how big that map is how far it stretches. The weather that you mentioned for DC is in Forza, but in Forza you have an actual working atmosphere instead of having to pick your weather before you race. DC looks amazing but from what I have seen that's all it does, the cars have horrible physics and you pretty much have to put up with people bumping into the whole race with no consequence. Forza's has not only a working atmosphere, but 200+ cars, open world that can contain more than 55 tracks, and 100+ hours for full completion. Forza's one map is huge France and Italy from the Alps to the Mediterranean, no doubt DC looks better but Forza is the more technically advanced game and will have waaaaaay more playtime than DC.

Thats funny because GTalways content superiority over Forza but to you people it didn't matter because it was some how a better game right.? How many cars does Forza 5 has.? GT6 has over 1,000.


Again you totally miss the point, Gt6 may have more cars than Horizon 2 but Horizon 2 will have more content over all simply because it's a sandbox racer, Don't get me wrong, Driveclub looks amazing and i am sure it will be amazing for what it is, A linear arcade racer, But forza horizon 2 is leaps and bounds ahead of DC when it comes to Content and freedom and overall realism, the only thing Driveclub has it beat on is graphics which is cool if you are into that sort of thing, i would rather have the freedom to drive where i want on a huge map GTA style.

Driveclub looks to be probably one of the best Arcade racers ever made and people should accept it for what it is and stop comparing it to Forza horizon 2 because they are both completely different games.

#206 Posted by delta3074 (18434 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@slimdogmilionar said:

Forza has 1 map? You do realize how big that map is how far it stretches. The weather that you mentioned for DC is in Forza, but in Forza you have an actual working atmosphere instead of having to pick your weather before you race. DC looks amazing but from what I have seen that's all it does, the cars have horrible physics and you pretty much have to put up with people bumping into the whole race with no consequence. Forza's has not only a working atmosphere, but 200+ cars, open world that can contain more than 55 tracks, and 100+ hours for full completion. Forza's one map is huge France and Italy from the Alps to the Mediterranean, no doubt DC looks better but Forza is the more technically advanced game and will have waaaaaay more playtime than DC.

Thats funny because GTalways content superiority over Forza but to you people it didn't matter because it was some how a better game right.? How many cars does Forza 5 has.? GT6 has over 1,000.


Again you totally miss the point, Gt6 may have more cars than Horizon 2 but Horizon 2 will have more content over all simply because it's a sandbox racer, Don't get me wrong, Driveclub looks amazing and i am sure it will be amazing for what it is, A linear arcade racer, But forza horizon 2 is leaps and bounds ahead of DC when it comes to Content and freedom and overall realism, the only thing Driveclub has it beat on is graphics which is cool if you are into that sort of thing, i would rather have the freedom to drive where i want on a huge map GTA style.

Driveclub looks to be probably one of the best Arcade racers ever made and people should accept it for what it is and stop comparing it to Forza horizon 2 because they are both completely different games.

#207 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (7430 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

It's called immersion, Justin. And you still can't read.

44. Although not a sim, Driveclub’s handling model is based on real world physics, using technical data about performance provided directly by the manufacturers.

45. To fine-tune the performance of every vehicle, a virtual “rolling road” test is used to check acceleration, top speed, weight distribution, and braking performance.

You don't see how that could improve gameplay in a racing game?

Stick to Twitter.

Cute gif btw. Which parallel universe is that taking place in after the beating Phil's had the last week and a half?

Immersion? ROFL. "I wasn't into DriveClubs until I drove by the sprinklers that turned on at a certain time. Right then it felt like I was driving on a real life static, linear road."

Give me a fucking break TurdLauncherz. You covering up for Sony's short comings is laughable.

#208 Posted by scottpsfan14 (5588 posts) -
@slimdogmilionar said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:

I fail to see how driving through empty fields in faux Southern Europe is rewarding but there you go.

44. Although not a sim, Driveclub’s handling model is based on real world physics, using technical data about performance provided directly by the manufacturers.

45. To fine-tune the performance of every vehicle, a virtual “rolling road” test is used to check acceleration, top speed, weight distribution, and braking performance.

You don't see how that could improve gameplay in a racing game?

Lol I do see how it could improve gameplay but the fact is that the Forza team actually rode in the cars on real roads no virtual "rolling road" or technical information was used.

@scottpsfan14 said:

Jesus. The damage control over a couple of racers. Unreal!

@slimdogmilionar, get your head out of the shitter and admit that FH2 looks like a GameCube game next to DriveClub. There is no debate here. DC is more advanced. Shut your face lol. You seem desperate as hell to convince people otherwise. Quite sad :(

Do graphics alone make DC a better game? Look at my past post and learn to read I have admitted at least four times already that DC has awesome graphics. At this point I don't think you guys are ignoring that, I think it's painfully starting to sink in that you guys realize that graphic fidelity is the only arguing point you guys can make against Forza. I expect the graphics to be better than Horizon 1 on 360 which had good graphics for it's time, saying the graphics look like a gamecube game is taking it a bit far. I hope you can comeback with something other than name calling or graphic fidelity to trump the fact that Forza is a better game, I doubt it though.

Your post was null to begin with, and please try to explain how DC is more advanced than Forza aside from graphics next time around. Let's try and dispute them feature by feature.

You need to grasp one single thing. Features =/= Advanced. If we are talking what's happening on screen in real time, DriveClub is massively more advanced. I like the look of FH2 a lot. Just saying that when you keep saying it's more advanced, that is incorrect. I can do more things on GTA San Andreas than FH2. But the game is not more 'advanced'. It just has more features. FH2 has more tracks and open world gameplay. More cars. Performance enhancements. Those are all 'features'. They do not determine how 'advanced' the game is. DriveClub is more of a classic arcade racer with point to point and circuit races. They are different games.

#209 Edited by scottpsfan14 (5588 posts) -
@Strutten said:

* Just a funny thought/thing on the bolded part - I'm pretty sure that what you guys said that about ryse and infamous ? that it was waaaaay more advanced, since it was an open world/sandbox game (infamous) ? and just by that made it more advanced, than an "corridor hack/slash game (ryse)", isnt that pretty much the same here, just its the opposite this time around ?.. i would dare to say that other than textures and weather effects in DC, it seems pretty bland otherwise IMO (except, if its something similar like PGR *gameplay* like)- pretty game yes, but it really screams very arcadey racer - but lets see how both will do when they get released.

Anyway who the effing cares which is more demanding, seems like people tends to know everything about the engines, development and so on, it like people only care about if its a "pretty game" etc etc. instead looking at which would be more appealing to the masses and actually which one would be the better/fun in gameplay? but so far it seems like its gonna be FH 2, if its anything like or better than FH 1, But i have my hopes up for DC tho.

But there is a difference. Infamous actually has more geometry on screen at once than Ryse. The character model is 120,000 polygons while Ryse Marius model is 85,000 polygons. There are about 11 million polys rendered on screen by the PS4 GPU on average in Infamous. I'm not sure about that number with Ryse. Infamous still beats Ryse in many ways even though it's open world. And in 1080p and 40fps average. With all the particle effects in unison. With many enemies on screen also casting particles. AND with cloth physics at the same time.

Also textures and weather? What about car models, reflections, lighting, environment detail, volumetric clouds and fog, light deffusion from the sun through the clouds etc? Yeah it is an arcade racer. But FH2 has arcade elements also.

If someone told me that gif was ridge racer, I'd believe them. I like the look of the game due to it's features, but it stands no chance against DriveClub graphically. But then that's not all that matters in a game. FH2 has more features and cars.

#211 Edited by freedomfreak (41036 posts) -

I'm sorry, but fuck Driveclub. The only good thing Driveclub has brought forth is the trademark dude.

I'm playing Forza: Horizon, and I'm racing a fucking Lambo Aventador against a bi-plane. That is better than 99% of all video games out there. Dafuq's Driveclub gon' do?

Great. I can see sprinklers from the side of the road.

#212 Posted by scottpsfan14 (5588 posts) -
@freedomfreak said:

I'm sorry, but fuck Driveclub. The only good thing Driveclub has brought forth is the trademark dude.

I'm playing Forza: Horizon, and I'm racing a fucking Lambo Aventador against a bi-plane. That is better than 99% of all video games out there. Dafuq's Driveclub gon' do?

Great. I can see sprinklers from the side of the road.

Wii Sports resort is better again.

#213 Edited by TorqueHappens08 (928 posts) -

Based on those two gifs on the first page, it looks like a "slight" generation gap between the two in terms of visuals upon first impression, gameplay wise, hands down going to give it FH2, more cars, more things to do, and crashing through fields and forests make the game seem very open like TDU, but man DC is just a graphics show case, which makes me wonder, how FH2 would look on PS4.

#214 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (5162 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

Better new games than only remakes that look worse than the original, *cough* TLOU *cough*

Hahaha, Slow Robert reaches maximum delusion. Speaking of remakes: three times as many on the Shitbox Done thanks to the Captain King Collection. Remakebox Done.

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Immersion? ROFL. "I wasn't into DriveClubs until I drove by the sprinklers that turned on at a certain time. Right then it felt like I was driving on a real life static, linear road."

Give me a fucking break TurdLauncherz. You covering up for Sony's short comings is laughable.

Yes, Justin, immersion. I can understand how that confuses you with your barely seventh gen ports as the Strugglebox keeps trying.

#215 Posted by delta3074 (18434 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:


@delta3074 said:

More Delta delusion. You never proved anyone wrong, rather you streamed out teems of paragraphs to deny that Ryse wasn't the joke of launch. Don't worry lemming, maybe next year will be better for you with 24 hour free demos of old GWG games. Heh.

i Proved that as far as Critical Acclaim is concerned (reviews) that Ryse scored higher than Knack so according to Critical acclaim (reviews) Ryse is the better game therefore, as far as the games industry is concerned, Ryse is a better game, End of.

and why do you keep calling me a lemming you stupid child, i don't own either an Xbone or A Ps4 and i have no intention of owning either, i just get sick of your Blatant BS and constantly using fanboy arguments instead of facts.

FACT=Ryse scored higher than Knack= FACT ryse is the better game

FICTION= 'bu-bu-bu nobody cared about Knack so therefore Knack must be the better game despite scoring less'

I don't really care TBH, you carry on, you are the one making yourself look like a T***, not me sunshine.

#216 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (5162 posts) -

Give it up, deltuh. Ryse was an offensive mess that received fuck all "critical acclaim" so you can stop using that phrase.

Fact: Ryse was a movie

Fact: Knack had gameplay, unlike Ryse

Fact: Lems sold Ryse as something of substance when it was in fact fucking nothing.

I've shown that not only have lems hyped up Ryse as something of worth as early as reveal and as late as a few weeks ago when it is in fact little more than dog shit. Stop trying. :)

#218 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (5162 posts) -

@FastRobby said:

returning real value to new gamers.

Hahahaha, is that what you losers call it? Only people getting it are the hardcore Halodrones who already own all the games.

Between this and EA Access, lemmings are the new cows. Prep them udders!

#219 Edited by delta3074 (18434 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Give it up, deltuh. Ryse was an offensive mess that received fuck all "critical acclaim" so you can stop using that phrase.

Fact: Ryse was a movie

Fact: Knack had gameplay, unlike Ryse

Fact: Lems sold Ryse as something of substance when it was in fact fucking nothing.

I've shown that not only have lems hyped up Ryse as something of worth as early as reveal and as late as a few weeks ago when it is in fact little more than dog shit. Stop trying. :)

Like i said, Ryse is a turd of a game but Knack is a bigger turd according to Game reveiwers and the gaming Press, you can't Debunk ONE SIMPLE FACT, Ryse SCORED higher than KNACK so KNACK is the bigger turd.

Forget the Hype, Forget your fanboy Drivel, the scores speak for themselves.

I don't care about your blah, blah, blah Cow meltdown, i am just going by the FACTS, Ryse scored higher than Knack.

Don't like it? don't care, Ryse did in fact score higher on MC You cannot disprove that fact so stop spouting Drivel cos i for one ain't going around and round in Circles anymore.

#220 Posted by delta3074 (18434 posts) -
@GrenadeLauncher said:

@FastRobby said:

Better new games than only remakes that look worse than the original, *cough* TLOU *cough*

Hahaha, Slow Robert reaches maximum delusion. Speaking of remakes: three times as many on the Shitbox Done thanks to the Captain King Collection. Remakebox Done.

At least the xbox get Proper remakes and not juts up-rezzed ports.

Like i said earlier, People in glass houses should not be throwing stones

#221 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (5162 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

Like i said, Ryse is a turd of a game but Knack is a bigger turd according to Game reveiwers and the gaming Press, you can't Debunk ONE SIMPLE FACT, Ryse SCORED higher than KNACK so KNACK is the bigger turd.

Forget the Hype, Forget your fanboy Drivel, the scores speak for themselves.

I don't care about your blah, blah, blah Cow meltdown, i am just going by the FACTS, Ryse scored higher than Knack.

Don't like it? don't care, Ryse did in fact score higher on MC You cannot disprove that fact so stop spouting Drivel cos i for one ain't going around and round in Circles anymore.

Meanwhile the rest of the world laughed harder at Ryse. Ryse recieved even more undeserved hype. So let's mince up your damage control and see it for what it is: Ryse was the worst game at launch. Those are facts. Deal with it and keep quiet like a good lemming.

@delta3074 said:

At least the xbox get Proper remakes and not juts up-rezzed ports.

Like i said earlier, People in glass houses should not be throwing stones

Only Halo 2 is getting remade. Halo CE, 3 and 4 are straight ports. That's the third time lems are buying Halo CE and Halo 4 is just 18 months old. So let's review it, shall we?

PS4: One remake and one port

Xbone: One remake and three ports.

Remakebox Done.

#222 Posted by tormentos (18385 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

Again you totally miss the point, Gt6 may have more cars than Horizon 2 but Horizon 2 will have more content over all simply because it's a sandbox racer, Don't get me wrong, Driveclub looks amazing and i am sure it will be amazing for what it is, A linear arcade racer, But forza horizon 2 is leaps and bounds ahead of DC when it comes to Content and freedom and overall realism, the only thing Driveclub has it beat on is graphics which is cool if you are into that sort of thing, i would rather have the freedom to drive where i want on a huge map GTA style.

Driveclub looks to be probably one of the best Arcade racers ever made and people should accept it for what it is and stop comparing it to Forza horizon 2 because they are both completely different games.

Is a sandbox racer where you can only have 200 cars,you can do anything other than racing on those 200 cars so yeah a truck load of cars less,talking about FH been sandbox as if it was GTA is a joke is basically NFS with another name,or Burnout paradise.

And i was talking GT vs Forza not FH.

My point stand quantity of cars matter when it serve you people best double standard FTW..

#223 Posted by freedomfreak (41036 posts) -

@tormentos

Forza: Horizon is brilliant. Not that you would know. You'd actually have to play these games in order to form an opinion about them. Stupid tool.

Play some games for once instead of blowbanging the companies you root for. God, pathetic ass individuals.

freedomfreak is awesome. More at 11.

infamous says high

#224 Posted by freedomfreak (41036 posts) -

GT=Ps2 models :dayna2:

#225 Posted by MclarenMaster18 (52 posts) -

@Heirren said:

F with the sims already. Needs more Road Rash.

Actually DriveClub is an arcade racer even though the graphics made it look like a driving simulator. How I can tell is an arcade racer? because of the physics.

#226 Posted by MclarenMaster18 (52 posts) -

I'd say Forza Horizon 2 would win.

#227 Edited by CanYouDiglt (7493 posts) -

I think one difference between GT having more cars then Forza and FH2 having more cars then DC is that GT pads their numbers to a crazy amount. GT will have 40 of one car with very slight difference, 35 of that car with very slight difference, 35 of that car with very slight difference, and so on. Forza has many unique cars and with the infinite amount of paint jobs or garage customization it does not need to have 40 of the same car with only a slight difference. GT does this so fanboys will keep repeating the number and to be able to put some large number on the box. It is not like they have even close to 1,000 unique cars though.

Also has in the last gen cars GT has.

#228 Posted by tormentos (18385 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:

@tormentos

Forza: Horizon is brilliant. Not that you would know. You'd actually have to play these games in order to form an opinion about them. Stupid tool.

Play some games for once instead of blowbanging the companies you root for. God, pathetic ass individuals.

freedomfreak is awesome. More at 11.

infamous says high

I could careless about your biased ass opinion.

Fact is if the numbers of cars count in favor of FH so does in GT as a good point.

@freedomfreak said:

GT=Ps2 models

Thats funny because FH2 cars look pull from the 360 that sad they look.lol

Driveclub cars fu**ing stomp FH2 cars hell it stop Forza 5 ones which actually look better than FH2 ones..lol

Is just another freaking glorified NFS.

#229 Posted by slimdogmilionar (562 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@delta3074 said:

Again you totally miss the point, Gt6 may have more cars than Horizon 2 but Horizon 2 will have more content over all simply because it's a sandbox racer, Don't get me wrong, Driveclub looks amazing and i am sure it will be amazing for what it is, A linear arcade racer, But forza horizon 2 is leaps and bounds ahead of DC when it comes to Content and freedom and overall realism, the only thing Driveclub has it beat on is graphics which is cool if you are into that sort of thing, i would rather have the freedom to drive where i want on a huge map GTA style.

Driveclub looks to be probably one of the best Arcade racers ever made and people should accept it for what it is and stop comparing it to Forza horizon 2 because they are both completely different games.

Is a sandbox racer where you can only have 200 cars,you can do anything other than racing on those 200 cars so yeah a truck load of cars less,talking about FH been sandbox as if it was GTA is a joke is basically NFS with another name,or Burnout paradise.

And i was talking GT vs Forza not FH.

My point stand quantity of cars matter when it serve you people best double standard FTW..

Forza 4 still got a better review than GT6. I hope that bold part was not meant to say that all you can do on FH2 is race those 200 cars because that's the biggest pile of crap I've heard yet in this thread if so. Then don't watch the latest FH2 video because you will eat those words, not only can you customize and tune your cars but when you join an online session you can look at other players cars and copy the way they have their car tuned and apply it to your car. I think this works out good for people who don't know a lot about tuning things like differential, downforce, drivetrain, etc. You can tune your car just like in Forza 4 or GT6, you can have different versions of the same car one for top speed, one for taking corners fast, and then one for just drifting and playing around. What can you tune in DC? Weather!?

#230 Posted by strangeisland (1151 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@freedomfreak said:

@tormentos

Forza: Horizon is brilliant. Not that you would know. You'd actually have to play these games in order to form an opinion about them. Stupid tool.

Play some games for once instead of blowbanging the companies you root for. God, pathetic ass individuals.

freedomfreak is awesome. More at 11.

infamous says high

I could careless about your biased ass opinion.

Fact is if the numbers of cars count in favor of FH so does in GT as a good point.

@freedomfreak said:

GT=Ps2 models

Thats funny because FH2 cars look pull from the 360 that sad they look.lol

Driveclub cars fu**ing stomp FH2 cars hell it stop Forza 5 ones which actually look better than FH2 ones..lol

Is just another freaking glorified NFS.

so ps2 models > supposed 360 models?

Quick question, is that your logic talking or your broken english?

#231 Posted by ttboy (311 posts) -

@scottpsfan14 said:
@Strutten said:

* Just a funny thought/thing on the bolded part - I'm pretty sure that what you guys said that about ryse and infamous ? that it was waaaaay more advanced, since it was an open world/sandbox game (infamous) ? and just by that made it more advanced, than an "corridor hack/slash game (ryse)", isnt that pretty much the same here, just its the opposite this time around ?.. i would dare to say that other than textures and weather effects in DC, it seems pretty bland otherwise IMO (except, if its something similar like PGR *gameplay* like)- pretty game yes, but it really screams very arcadey racer - but lets see how both will do when they get released.

Anyway who the effing cares which is more demanding, seems like people tends to know everything about the engines, development and so on, it like people only care about if its a "pretty game" etc etc. instead looking at which would be more appealing to the masses and actually which one would be the better/fun in gameplay? but so far it seems like its gonna be FH 2, if its anything like or better than FH 1, But i have my hopes up for DC tho.

But there is a difference. Infamous actually has more geometry on screen at once than Ryse. The character model is 120,000 polygons while Ryse Marius model is 85,000 polygons. There are about 11 million polys rendered on screen by the PS4 GPU on average in Infamous. I'm not sure about that number with Ryse. Infamous still beats Ryse in many ways even though it's open world. And in 1080p and 40fps average. With all the particle effects in unison. With many enemies on screen also casting particles. AND with cloth physics at the same time.

Also textures and weather? What about car models, reflections, lighting, environment detail, volumetric clouds and fog, light deffusion from the sun through the clouds etc? Yeah it is an arcade racer. But FH2 has arcade elements also.

If someone told me that gif was ridge racer, I'd believe them. I like the look of the game due to it's features, but it stands no chance against DriveClub graphically. But then that's not all that matters in a game. FH2 has more features and cars.

A bit off topic but how many total characters on screen did infamous have vs Ryse? You can't just take the total of one character's poly count.

#232 Posted by freedomfreak (41036 posts) -
@tormentos said:

I could careless about your biased ass opinion.
You pointing out people being biased is as ironic as it's gonna get. Hey, I actually played the game. Only thing you can do is run off the gaming review sites and push those scores on other people hahahahaahaa...

Fact is if the numbers of cars count in favor of FH so does in GT as a good point.
Yeah, except the cars in Forza aren't from 2 generations back hahahhahaaa..

Thats funny because FH2 cars look pull from the 360 that sad they look.lol
English, motherfucker, do you speak it? hahahhahaaa...

Driveclub cars fu**ing stomp FH2 cars hell it stop Forza 5 ones which actually look better than FH2 ones..lol
Yeah, graphics are awesome. As long as it looks prettier. hahhahahaaa..

Is just another freaking glorified NFS.
You could've just said "I'm a dumb fanboy tool and I never know what I'm talking about."

hahhahaha

#233 Edited by delta3074 (18434 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@delta3074 said:

Again you totally miss the point, Gt6 may have more cars than Horizon 2 but Horizon 2 will have more content over all simply because it's a sandbox racer, Don't get me wrong, Driveclub looks amazing and i am sure it will be amazing for what it is, A linear arcade racer, But forza horizon 2 is leaps and bounds ahead of DC when it comes to Content and freedom and overall realism, the only thing Driveclub has it beat on is graphics which is cool if you are into that sort of thing, i would rather have the freedom to drive where i want on a huge map GTA style.

Driveclub looks to be probably one of the best Arcade racers ever made and people should accept it for what it is and stop comparing it to Forza horizon 2 because they are both completely different games.

Is a sandbox racer where you can only have 200 cars,you can do anything other than racing on those 200 cars so yeah a truck load of cars less,talking about FH been sandbox as if it was GTA is a joke is basically NFS with another name,or Burnout paradise.

And i was talking GT vs Forza not FH.

My point stand quantity of cars matter when it serve you people best double standard FTW..

'you people' are you talking to me tormentos because i have NEVER talked about the quality or number of cars in a racing game on this forum in my life before this post simply because i have only been into Racing games for a couple of months now, i hated them before playing NFS shift on my tablet, and this thread is about FORZA Horizon 2 ans Driveclub dude , you have NO place bringing GT into this thread in the first place

I would rather have 200 cars in a sandbox racer than 2000 cars in a linear arcade racer, thats just me, i am sure there are people who prefer it the other way around.

Basically , stay on topic, stop bringing random games into the equation just because you cannot Win in an argument by staying on topic.

Bottom line is, in the context of this thread, Forza Horizon has more Content and Cars than Driveclub and is a sandbox racer not a linear arcade racer.

In other words Forza FH 2 beats Driveclub in EVERY area except Graphics, you can't deny that so you have to bring OTHER games into the equation just to make a NON-point.

#235 Posted by tormentos (18385 posts) -
@slimdogmilionar said:

Forza 4 still got a better review than GT6. I hope that bold part was not meant to say that all you can do on FH2 is race those 200 cars because that's the biggest pile of crap I've heard yet in this thread if so. Then don't watch the latest FH2 video because you will eat those words, not only can you customize and tune your cars but when you join an online session you can look at other players cars and copy the way they have their car tuned and apply it to your car. I think this works out good for people who don't know a lot about tuning things like differential, downforce, drivetrain, etc. You can tune your car just like in Forza 4 or GT6, you can have different versions of the same car one for top speed, one for taking corners fast, and then one for just drifting and playing around. What can you tune in DC? Weather!?

Really and with less cars.? Oh that is interesting because it was you downplaying DC based on the number of cars,which also apply to GT vs any Forza game.

WTF...hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

So all you can do is race the fu**ing cars,tuning cars is old as hell GT1 did it before the xbox brand was even here,and doesn't quite count as something different,neither is going online to watch what another moron did to his car,basically you can do 1 thing race,reason why the whole sandbox crap is over hype on a racer,it isn't GTA is a damn racing game,been more open doesn't change anything.

The game has less cars than GT by your argument that is bad.

#236 Edited by delta3074 (18434 posts) -
@GrenadeLauncher said:

@delta3074 said:

Like i said, Ryse is a turd of a game but Knack is a bigger turd according to Game reveiwers and the gaming Press, you can't Debunk ONE SIMPLE FACT, Ryse SCORED higher than KNACK so KNACK is the bigger turd.

Forget the Hype, Forget your fanboy Drivel, the scores speak for themselves.

I don't care about your blah, blah, blah Cow meltdown, i am just going by the FACTS, Ryse scored higher than Knack.

Don't like it? don't care, Ryse did in fact score higher on MC You cannot disprove that fact so stop spouting Drivel cos i for one ain't going around and round in Circles anymore.

Meanwhile the rest of the world laughed harder at Ryse. Ryse recieved even more undeserved hype. So let's mince up your damage control and see it for what it is: Ryse was the worst game at launch. Those are facts. Deal with it and keep quiet like a good lemming.


Nope, Ryse scored higher than Knack, therefore, using good old fashioned logic and facts, Knack was the worse game at launch, those are the facts (according to MC) so lets mince up your damage control for what it is :Ryse scored more than Knack and you Cannot handle it because you where proved wrong so you are going to act like a small child and make up stupid lame excuses for why you are not wrong even though the evidence is right in front of you.

FACT=Ryse scored higher than Knack

FACT=Ryse is the better game according to the gaming press.

FACT= all that BS you keep spouting about which game was hyped more is irrelevent , doesn't mean a thing when you look at the scores, the scores speak for themselves.

FACT= Ryse won more awards than Knack, was it not you the other day that stated TLOU was better than the 360's entire library because it had won the most awards? so going by your own Logic Ryse>knack.

Bottom line is that i could run rings around you using your own Biased logic if i wanted too.

I have provided evidence to back up my statement you have provided nothing but Subjective, Fanboy , biased drivel

'Meanwhile the rest of the world laughed harder at Ryse'

Got any evidence for that? no, i thought not.

My work is done here, say what you like but everyone on this board can see our debate so i will leave it to them to judge who is the biggest loser in this debate.

Must burn you up that FH2 won the poll eh grenade?

'

#237 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (5162 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

Deltuh the lemming melting down for another day. Poor lamb. Maybe if he had games to play, things wouldn't be so bad.

Fact: Ryse got hyped more. Fact: Ryse had no gameplay. Fact: Ryse was the joke of launch. I've already shown you examples of your fellow lemmings talking up Ryse as if it was something of importance. Deal with it. :)

#238 Posted by freedomfreak (41036 posts) -
@tormentos said:

No is not i don't hide my fanboysm you do,yes and playing the game was totally irrelevant to my point period that was number of cars which i what some one was flaming from DC,nice spin.

How are GT6 cars from 2 generations back.? GT6 is a ps3 so if the cars were from GT on PS2 is 1 gen,but they could be from the PS1 for all i care it has more which was my point.

Oh i know you understood it well.

Sad little fellow cars in drive club make FH2 one look date and old,isn't the complain about GT having many old models.? hahaha

50 incredible cars >>>>>>>>>>> 200 average ones.. Just applying that same logic you people always use to defend Forza...lol

Na you are more a sad biased lemming...

More rambling of the rambling cow. 50 great looking cars>200 good looking cars? Yeah, for sure, man. That's what racing games are about. Have fun playing those graphics lol.

"Sad biased lemming"

Oh, look. A cow calling someone a lem because they aren't fellating Sony. If only some of you tried.

#239 Posted by slimdogmilionar (562 posts) -

@tormentos said:
@slimdogmilionar said:

Forza 4 still got a better review than GT6. I hope that bold part was not meant to say that all you can do on FH2 is race those 200 cars because that's the biggest pile of crap I've heard yet in this thread if so. Then don't watch the latest FH2 video because you will eat those words, not only can you customize and tune your cars but when you join an online session you can look at other players cars and copy the way they have their car tuned and apply it to your car. I think this works out good for people who don't know a lot about tuning things like differential, downforce, drivetrain, etc. You can tune your car just like in Forza 4 or GT6, you can have different versions of the same car one for top speed, one for taking corners fast, and then one for just drifting and playing around. What can you tune in DC? Weather!?

Really and with less cars.? Oh that is interesting because it was you downplaying DC based on the number of cars,which also apply to GT vs any Forza game.

WTF...hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

So all you can do is race the fu**ing cars,tuning cars is old as hell GT1 did it before the xbox brand was even here,and doesn't quite count as something different,neither is going online to watch what another moron did to his car,basically you can do 1 thing race,reason why the whole sandbox crap is over hype on a racer,it isn't GTA is a damn racing game,been more open doesn't change anything.

The game has less cars than GT by your argument that is bad.

all I can do is laugh at your stupidity. I never said anything about more cars making it a better game, please find a post where I said more cars makes Forza a better game. Even with less cars Forza 4 and Horizon 1 both beat out GT6 metacritic score. The difference is both Forza 4, 5, and Horizon 1 have more content than DC, it's not the car count that makes the game fun its the content. I'm not downplaying DC because of the car count i'm downplaying it because of the lack of content. Therer is nothing for you to do in DC, 50 cars, 50 tracks, and no tuning customization or anything, completely linear. You don't even get to buy cars. How can you basically do only one thing in FH2, I think you have it mixed up with DC. You would sound a lot less stupid if you actually watched a video or 2 of FH2 then you could see just how dumb you sound. Being more open does change things? You can do unofficial point to point races with friends, find secrets, show off car designs, drag races, and whatever else you can think of. You keep bringing GT6 into the argument when it was probably the worst received GT game by fans, complaints of up resed cars, or having multiples of the same car just a different version that you could make with the base car and tuning, keep reaching dude. No matter how you slice it Forza is the king of racers now.

#240 Posted by Heirren (17393 posts) -

Give me a good arcade racer. How about something like Destruction Derby. I already mentioned Road Rash, and how about a water based racer with this newer hardware? The problem with sim type racers is that they are too expensive. To truly enjoy them, or get the maximum amount out of them, you need a pricey setup. Not only is the setup pricey but it also eats up space and nobody in their right mind is going to leave a video game car setup in the living room.

#241 Posted by tormentos (18385 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:

More rambling of the rambling cow. 50 great looking cars>200 good looking cars? Yeah, for sure, man. That's what racing games are about. Have fun playing those graphics lol.

"Sad biased lemming"

Oh, look. A cow calling someone a lem because they aren't fellating Sony. If only some of you tried.

Yeah that goal post is moving fast,when it was GT having 1,000 cars VS forza 300 or 400 the argument was having more premium cars was better than having more cars from last gen,now the argument change.

And sure i will enjoy the graphics if i didn't i would have stay on the PS1 and would have never move.

#242 Posted by freedomfreak (41036 posts) -
@tormentos said:

Yeah that goal post is moving fast,when it was GT having 1,000 cars VS forza 300 or 400 the argument was having more premium cars was better than having more cars from last gen,now the argument change.

And sure i will enjoy the graphics if i didn't i would have stay on the PS1 and would have never move.

I don't care much for that argument. Just commented on the fact that you're talking about it being a "glorified nfs", yet you haven't played it.

No surprises there.

#243 Posted by jessejay420 (3845 posts) -

@delta3074 said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:

@delta3074 said:

Like i said, Ryse is a turd of a game but Knack is a bigger turd according to Game reveiwers and the gaming Press, you can't Debunk ONE SIMPLE FACT, Ryse SCORED higher than KNACK so KNACK is the bigger turd.

Forget the Hype, Forget your fanboy Drivel, the scores speak for themselves.

I don't care about your blah, blah, blah Cow meltdown, i am just going by the FACTS, Ryse scored higher than Knack.

Don't like it? don't care, Ryse did in fact score higher on MC You cannot disprove that fact so stop spouting Drivel cos i for one ain't going around and round in Circles anymore.

Meanwhile the rest of the world laughed harder at Ryse. Ryse recieved even more undeserved hype. So let's mince up your damage control and see it for what it is: Ryse was the worst game at launch. Those are facts. Deal with it and keep quiet like a good lemming.


Nope, Ryse scored higher than Knack, therefore, using good old fashioned logic and facts, Knack was the worse game at launch, those are the facts (according to MC) so lets mince up your damage control for what it is :Ryse scored more than Knack and you Cannot handle it because you where proved wrong so you are going to act like a small child and make up stupid lame excuses for why you are not wrong even though the evidence is right in front of you.

FACT=Ryse scored higher than Knack

FACT=Ryse is the better game according to the gaming press.

FACT= all that BS you keep spouting about which game was hyped more is irrelevent , doesn't mean a thing when you look at the scores, the scores speak for themselves.

FACT= Ryse won more awards than Knack, was it not you the other day that stated TLOU was better than the 360's entire library because it had won the most awards? so going by your own Logic Ryse>knack.

Bottom line is that i could run rings around you using your own Biased logic if i wanted too.

I have provided evidence to back up my statement you have provided nothing but Subjective, Fanboy , biased drivel

'Meanwhile the rest of the world laughed harder at Ryse'

Got any evidence for that? no, i thought not.

My work is done here, say what you like but everyone on this board can see our debate so i will leave it to them to judge who is the biggest loser in this debate.

Must burn you up that FH2 won the poll eh grenade?

'

MASSIVE PWNAGE!!!!

#244 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (5162 posts) -

@jessejay420 said:

MASSIVE PWNAGE!!!!

Sorry lemming, having a meltdown because deltuh got his ass slapped does not constitute "pwnage." :)

#245 Edited by strothers101 (251 posts) -

Wow DC looks good. Eye candy to the max...as a game though, from what I have seen, Forza Horizon 2 is the better of the two.

#247 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (5162 posts) -

@gmpl said:

Play Flyway on your ios Device

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/flyway/id909756993?mt=8

Should port it to Xbone, give the lemmings something to play.

#248 Posted by sts106mat (19857 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Should port it to Xbone, give the lemmings something to play.

this coming from someone who is seemingly never off of SW. smh dont you have any games to play / life to live?

#249 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (5162 posts) -

@sts106mat said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Should port it to Xbone, give the lemmings something to play.

this coming from someone who is seemingly never off of SW. smh dont you have any games to play / life to live?

lol I'm literally only here a couple of hours of the day. Spot my posting patterns, lem.

No need to take everything so seriously. :)

#250 Posted by sts106mat (19857 posts) -

@GrenadeLauncher said:

@sts106mat said:

@GrenadeLauncher said:

Should port it to Xbone, give the lemmings something to play.

this coming from someone who is seemingly never off of SW. smh dont you have any games to play / life to live?

lol I'm literally only here a couple of hours of the day. Spot my posting patterns, lem.

No need to take everything so seriously. :)

your posting habits ? you mean your frequent butthurt damage control posts? sure