DOTA2 Tournament will stream on ESPN

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#1 Edited by RoboCopISJesus (1369 posts) -
#2 Posted by parkurtommo (26457 posts) -

Yeah I found that to be pretty cool.

Why'd you post this here? To spark more anti-esports discussions?

#3 Posted by RoboCopISJesus (1369 posts) -

Why'd you post this here?

To see if consoles can compete in such categories.

#4 Posted by MBirdy88 (7666 posts) -

@parkurtommo said:

Why'd you post this here?

To see if consoles can compete in such categories.

If its anything like the e-sports official article a few weeks ago on the home page and its comments, all you will get is trolls and casuals going "lol sad people watching other people play games" .... then go on about how much they love football... the irony.

#5 Posted by RoboCopISJesus (1369 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:
@RoboCopISJesus said:

@parkurtommo said:

Why'd you post this here?

To see if consoles can compete in such categories.

If its anything like the e-sports official article a few weeks ago on the home page and its comments, all you will get is trolls and casuals going "lol sad people watching other people play games" .... then go on about how much they love football... the irony.

The sad thing is they don't know how competitive a game can really be because all they play is CoD or Madden.

#6 Posted by lostrib (34335 posts) -

...still not a sport

#7 Posted by Gue1 (9498 posts) -

@lostrib said:

...still not a sport

why is not a sport according to you?

#8 Posted by mems_1224 (46510 posts) -

@lostrib said:

...still not a sport

Word, ESPN also broadcasts garbage like poker, spelling bees and soccer. Doesn't make them sports either.

#9 Posted by PapaTrop (474 posts) -

Seems like an odd choice.

I'd think anyone who likes Dota is sitting at their computer, or with their laptop/tablet somewhere watching it stream live online.

I'd be confused if I saw someone watching this on tv.

#10 Posted by MBirdy88 (7666 posts) -

@lostrib said:

...still not a sport

correct, its an e-sport.

#11 Posted by inb4uall (5344 posts) -

@lostrib said:

...still not a sport

Word, ESPN also broadcasts garbage like poker, spelling bees and soccer. Doesn't make them sports either.

Lol'd

#12 Posted by parkurtommo (26457 posts) -

@lostrib said:

...still not a sport

Denial.

#13 Edited by BldgIrsh (1600 posts) -

It's an DIGITAL SPORTS. Anyways ESPN is just streaming it due to the amount of viewers. Doesn't make it labeled as an actual sport.

Anyways, EG gonna take gold. Thx based Arteezy.

#14 Posted by parkurtommo (26457 posts) -

@bldgirsh said:

It's an DIGITAL SPORTS. Anyways ESPN is just streaming it due to the amount of viewers. Doesn't make it labeled as an actual sport.

Anyways, EG gonna take gold. Thx based Arteezy.

Yeah I'm expecting EG to win as well. DK is playing really well right now, almost just as well as EG, especially in spontaneous plays. In the long run RTZ 2 gud.

#15 Posted by Chutebox (36583 posts) -

lol, sport my ass.

#16 Posted by Chutebox (36583 posts) -

@MBirdy88 said:
@RoboCopISJesus said:

@parkurtommo said:

Why'd you post this here?

To see if consoles can compete in such categories.

If its anything like the e-sports official article a few weeks ago on the home page and its comments, all you will get is trolls and casuals going "lol sad people watching other people play games" .... then go on about how much they love football... the irony.

Oh, I laughed hard.

#17 Posted by geraldwillkill (1131 posts) -

Awesome, glad to see gaming getting recognized as a real sport now.

#18 Posted by parkurtommo (26457 posts) -

Awesome, glad to see gaming getting recognized as a real sport now.

General gaming in itself is not a sport lol.

Just certain titles, like MOBAs, RTS, FPS and Fighters or anything that can be competitive. Action adventure games for example could not be considered a sport lol.

@Chutebox said:

@MBirdy88 said:
@RoboCopISJesus said:

@parkurtommo said:

Why'd you post this here?

To see if consoles can compete in such categories.

If its anything like the e-sports official article a few weeks ago on the home page and its comments, all you will get is trolls and casuals going "lol sad people watching other people play games" .... then go on about how much they love football... the irony.

Oh, I laughed hard.

Thank you for your elaborate and thoughtful contribution to this discussion.

#19 Posted by Jacanuk (4209 posts) -
#20 Edited by BldgIrsh (1600 posts) -

@parkurtommo said:

@bldgirsh said:

It's an DIGITAL SPORTS. Anyways ESPN is just streaming it due to the amount of viewers. Doesn't make it labeled as an actual sport.

Anyways, EG gonna take gold. Thx based Arteezy.

Yeah I'm expecting EG to win as well. DK is playing really well right now, almost just as well as EG, especially in spontaneous plays. In the long run RTZ 2 gud.

wefockinwonboys

#21 Posted by Chutebox (36583 posts) -

@parkurtommo:

You're very welcome. Feel like an athlete yet?

#22 Edited by MBirdy88 (7666 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

@MBirdy88 said:
@RoboCopISJesus said:

@parkurtommo said:

Why'd you post this here?

To see if consoles can compete in such categories.

If its anything like the e-sports official article a few weeks ago on the home page and its comments, all you will get is trolls and casuals going "lol sad people watching other people play games" .... then go on about how much they love football... the irony.

Oh, I laughed hard.

well done.

#23 Posted by parkurtommo (26457 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

@parkurtommo:

You're very welcome. Feel like an athlete yet?

I don't understand what that has to with anything. Athleticism is not intrinsic to sports. The definition for sports doesn't mention any limits as to how much physical input it requires; clicking a mouse or pressing a key is physical input. The mental aspect in e sports however exceeds most accepted sports... It's ridiculous that you feel the need to be so regressive. You're like an old man refusing to accept new things. :^)

#24 Posted by Chutebox (36583 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

@parkurtommo:

You're very welcome. Feel like an athlete yet?

I don't understand what that has to with anything. Athleticism is not intrinsic to sports. The definition for sports doesn't mention any limits as to how much physical input it requires; clicking a mouse or pressing a key is physical input. The mental aspect in e sports however exceeds most accepted sports... It's ridiculous that you feel the need to be so regressive. You're like an old man refusing to accept new things. :^)

It was a joke, bud. Nothing serious from me..almost ever here. That being said, you're fucking bonkers if you think playing videogames constitutes a sport. It doesn't.

It is or can be competitive, but not a sport.

#25 Posted by parkurtommo (26457 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

but not a sport.

You aren't giving any reasons as to why you think that.

#26 Posted by Chutebox (36583 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

but not a sport.

You aren't giving any reasons as to why you think that.

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

#27 Posted by Jacanuk (4209 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Chutebox said:

but not a sport.

You aren't giving any reasons as to why you think that.

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Spot on, but people seem to want to destroy that definition and help make kids fatter.

#28 Posted by parkurtommo (26457 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Chutebox said:

but not a sport.

You aren't giving any reasons as to why you think that.

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Yes yes, there isn't intense physical activity going on within the players body... But the thing is... The heroes they are playing are fighting, running and jumping! I know it might not make sense if you're close minded. But the definition of sports doesn't actually say that the physical exertion has to be done by humans. :D The spectators do not see the body of the players, they see the heroes that they are playing and identify them by the player's name. Arteezy is "Razor", Dendi is "Pudge, ect.

But I don't expect you to understand or even attempt to understand. I completely understand where you are coming from as there is a huge disconnection between nerds that play DOTA 2 and the athletes partaking in NFL... But putting that aside, you can logically include e-sports as a recognized sport.

#29 Edited by Jacanuk (4209 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Chutebox said:

but not a sport.

You aren't giving any reasons as to why you think that.

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Yes yes, there isn't intense physical activity going on within the players body... But the thing is... The heroes they are playing are fighting, running and jumping! I know it might not make sense if you're close minded. But the definition of sports doesn't actually say that the physical exertion has to be done by humans. :D The spectators do not see the body of the players, they see the heroes that they are playing and identify them by the player's name. Arteezy is "Razor", Dendi is "Pudge, ect.

But I don't expect you to understand or even attempt to understand. I completely understand where you are coming from as there is a huge disconnection between nerds that play DOTA 2 and the athletes partaking in NFL... But putting that aside, you can logically include e-sports as a recognized sport.

Wait.... are you really suggesting that DOTA 2 is a sport because of what the virtual characters do? lol

#30 Edited by freedomfreak (39130 posts) -

#31 Posted by lostrib (34335 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Chutebox said:

but not a sport.

You aren't giving any reasons as to why you think that.

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Yes yes, there isn't intense physical activity going on within the players body... But the thing is... The heroes they are playing are fighting, running and jumping! I know it might not make sense if you're close minded. But the definition of sports doesn't actually say that the physical exertion has to be done by humans. :D The spectators do not see the body of the players, they see the heroes that they are playing and identify them by the player's name. Arteezy is "Razor", Dendi is "Pudge, ect.

But I don't expect you to understand or even attempt to understand. I completely understand where you are coming from as there is a huge disconnection between nerds that play DOTA 2 and the athletes partaking in NFL... But putting that aside, you can logically include e-sports as a recognized sport.

...there is no actual physical activity, the heroes aren't real...

#32 Posted by Chutebox (36583 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Chutebox said:

but not a sport.

You aren't giving any reasons as to why you think that.

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Yes yes, there isn't intense physical activity going on within the players body... But the thing is... The heroes they are playing are fighting, running and jumping! I know it might not make sense if you're close minded. But the definition of sports doesn't actually say that the physical exertion has to be done by humans. :D The spectators do not see the body of the players, they see the heroes that they are playing and identify them by the player's name. Arteezy is "Razor", Dendi is "Pudge, ect.

But I don't expect you to understand or even attempt to understand. I completely understand where you are coming from as there is a huge disconnection between nerds that play DOTA 2 and the athletes partaking in NFL... But putting that aside, you can logically include e-sports as a recognized sport.

I seriously can't believe I just read this shit. Come on, man.

#33 Posted by wolverine4262 (19033 posts) -
@Chutebox said:

lol, sport my ass.

I'd rather not.

#34 Posted by Krelian-co (10367 posts) -

ESPN = Its a real sport now.

Rofl no, i don't know why nerds are trying so desperately to think a game is a sport.

#35 Posted by Jeager_Titan (945 posts) -

@lostrib said:

...still not a sport

Word, ESPN also broadcasts garbage like poker, spelling bees and soccer. Doesn't make them sports either.

Football>every other sport.

#36 Posted by lostrib (34335 posts) -

@mems_1224 said:

@lostrib said:

...still not a sport

Word, ESPN also broadcasts garbage like poker, spelling bees and soccer. Doesn't make them sports either.

Football>every other sport.

That's why america loves the NFL

#37 Edited by parkurtommo (26457 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Chutebox said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Chutebox said:

but not a sport.

You aren't giving any reasons as to why you think that.

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Yes yes, there isn't intense physical activity going on within the players body... But the thing is... The heroes they are playing are fighting, running and jumping! I know it might not make sense if you're close minded. But the definition of sports doesn't actually say that the physical exertion has to be done by humans. :D The spectators do not see the body of the players, they see the heroes that they are playing and identify them by the player's name. Arteezy is "Razor", Dendi is "Pudge, ect.

But I don't expect you to understand or even attempt to understand. I completely understand where you are coming from as there is a huge disconnection between nerds that play DOTA 2 and the athletes partaking in NFL... But putting that aside, you can logically include e-sports as a recognized sport.

Wait.... are you really suggesting that DOTA 2 is a sport because of what the virtual characters do? lol

Yes I am. It's a sport for the spectators (which is all that matters). There are no athletes involved, the players are not being seen. The heroes are representations of the players and their intentions. I don't understand why you guys are finding this to be far fetched.

#38 Edited by Chutebox (36583 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Chutebox said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Chutebox said:

but not a sport.

You aren't giving any reasons as to why you think that.

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Yes yes, there isn't intense physical activity going on within the players body... But the thing is... The heroes they are playing are fighting, running and jumping! I know it might not make sense if you're close minded. But the definition of sports doesn't actually say that the physical exertion has to be done by humans. :D The spectators do not see the body of the players, they see the heroes that they are playing and identify them by the player's name. Arteezy is "Razor", Dendi is "Pudge, ect.

But I don't expect you to understand or even attempt to understand. I completely understand where you are coming from as there is a huge disconnection between nerds that play DOTA 2 and the athletes partaking in NFL... But putting that aside, you can logically include e-sports as a recognized sport.

Wait.... are you really suggesting that DOTA 2 is a sport because of what the virtual characters do? lol

Yes I am. It's a sport for the spectators (which is all that matters). There are no athletes involved, the players are not being seen. The heroes are representations of the players and their intentions. I don't understand why you guys are finding this to be far fetched.

You don't understand why WE are finding this far fetched? I'm done lol, I honestly don't know where to take this with this thought process.

#39 Posted by Jeager_Titan (945 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@jeager_titan said:

@mems_1224 said:

@lostrib said:

...still not a sport

Word, ESPN also broadcasts garbage like poker, spelling bees and soccer. Doesn't make them sports either.

Football>every other sport.

That's why america loves the NFL

'Murica != the whole world. 'Murica can suck it.

#40 Edited by mems_1224 (46510 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@jeager_titan said:

@mems_1224 said:

@lostrib said:

...still not a sport

Word, ESPN also broadcasts garbage like poker, spelling bees and soccer. Doesn't make them sports either.

Football>every other sport.

That's why america loves the NFL

Yup, I agree with him 100%. Football is awesome.

#41 Posted by parkurtommo (26457 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Jacanuk said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Chutebox said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Chutebox said:

but not a sport.

You aren't giving any reasons as to why you think that.

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Yes yes, there isn't intense physical activity going on within the players body... But the thing is... The heroes they are playing are fighting, running and jumping! I know it might not make sense if you're close minded. But the definition of sports doesn't actually say that the physical exertion has to be done by humans. :D The spectators do not see the body of the players, they see the heroes that they are playing and identify them by the player's name. Arteezy is "Razor", Dendi is "Pudge, ect.

But I don't expect you to understand or even attempt to understand. I completely understand where you are coming from as there is a huge disconnection between nerds that play DOTA 2 and the athletes partaking in NFL... But putting that aside, you can logically include e-sports as a recognized sport.

Wait.... are you really suggesting that DOTA 2 is a sport because of what the virtual characters do? lol

Yes I am. It's a sport for the spectators (which is all that matters). There are no athletes involved, the players are not being seen. The heroes are representations of the players and their intentions. I don't understand why you guys are finding this to be far fetched.

You don't understand why WE are finding this far fetched? I'm done lol, I honestly don't know where to take this with this thought process.

Fine... I know it's hard to understand in a defensive point of view.

#42 Edited by Chutebox (36583 posts) -

@parkurtommo: It's not defensive, it's logical. You keep saying I'm being defensive to soften the blow or a way to try and weaken the definition. Stop trying. it's not a sport no matter how you try and twist the words.

This is just sad.

#43 Posted by Jacanuk (4209 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:

Wait.... are you really suggesting that DOTA 2 is a sport because of what the virtual characters do? lol

Yes I am. It's a sport for the spectators (which is all that matters). There are no athletes involved, the players are not being seen. The heroes are representations of the players and their intentions. I don't understand why you guys are finding this to be far fetched.

A sport incase you missed the other posters post, is a physical activity. And calling an apple a carrot doesn't make that it so, even if you imagine you are eating a carrot.

Also why is it important for anyone to call something a thing its clearly not?

#44 Posted by parkurtommo (26457 posts) -

@Jacanuk said:

@parkurtommo said:

@Jacanuk said:

Wait.... are you really suggesting that DOTA 2 is a sport because of what the virtual characters do? lol

Yes I am. It's a sport for the spectators (which is all that matters). There are no athletes involved, the players are not being seen. The heroes are representations of the players and their intentions. I don't understand why you guys are finding this to be far fetched.

A sport incase you missed the other posters post, is a physical activity. And calling an apple a carrot doesn't make that it so, even if you imagine you are eating a carrot.

Also why is it important for anyone to call something a thing its clearly not?

I honestly don't know. I myself don't find it important for e-sports to be on the same level of commonly accepted sports because they involve a superior mental involvement and intensity... But I'm getting a vibe from people who say that it's not a sport; like they're devaluing it for the same reasons.

But yeah, my argument is flawed... I'm being too imaginative.

#45 Edited by Roler42 (591 posts) -

Welp, sports fans surely get terrified and ridiculously defensive when something that involves using your brain is considered remotely close to a sport...

Wich reminds me:

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Playing a videogame is an activity, winning a videogame requires skill, individuals or teams compete against each other in a videogame match for entertainment

#46 Posted by lostrib (34335 posts) -

@roler42 said:

Welp, sports fans surely get terrified and ridiculously defensive when something that involves using your brain (wich is a muscle) is considered remotely close to a sport...

Wich reminds me:

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Playing a videogame is an activity, winning a videogame requires skill, individuals or teams compete against each other in a videogame match for entertainment

The brain isn't a muscle

#47 Posted by Roler42 (591 posts) -
#48 Edited by lundy86_4 (42979 posts) -

@roler42 said:

Welp, sports fans surely get terrified and ridiculously defensive when something that involves using your brain (wich is a muscle) is considered remotely close to a sport...

Wich reminds me:

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Playing a videogame is an activity, winning a videogame requires skill, individuals or teams compete against each other in a videogame match for entertainment

It's most definitely not a muscle.

#49 Posted by Renegade_Fury (17054 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

lol, sport my ass.

Yep. ESPN promotes spelling bees too, so I guess that's a sport as well.

#50 Edited by parkurtommo (26457 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@roler42 said:

Welp, sports fans surely get terrified and ridiculously defensive when something that involves using your brain (wich is a muscle) is considered remotely close to a sport...

Wich reminds me:

Definition: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

Playing a videogame is an activity, winning a videogame requires skill, individuals or teams compete against each other in a videogame match for entertainment

The brain isn't a muscle

It is a physical thing though (thus using your brain is an act of physical exertion o.O). Semantics...