Does Nintendo Just Need Zelda To Be Declaired King?

Ignoring the incredibly, highly rated Mario games (the trump any pc, PS3, PS4, Xbox, or XboxOne title) can we agree that all Nintendo needs to be declared the best console is another edition to the Zelda series regarded by many gamers and professionally professional critics as the greatest game ever created?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/nintendo-64/the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time

Does any another console even have first party that touches the creativity and inventiveness of this series?

No, because the last time Zelda was good on consoles was like a decade ago.

They have a lot to do if they want to restore this series to its former glory.

Provided the zelda is good.

What would the other consoles have? Halo? Bloodborne? Further Nintendo exclusives would be a unnecessary redundancy for Nintendo to claim the first party throne.

According to metacitics, they are all amazing, with the lowest being ranked as "excellent to great".

http://www.metacritic.com/search/all/legend%20of%20zelda/results

Skyward Sword is shit.

I respect your opinion.

A King answers to no man, he listens to his people and makes decisions for the greater good. A King leads when times are good and also most importantly, when times are bad. A great King must also be able to balance the Kingdoms treasury. A King can also live forever, even in death.

Nintendo is a great King.

Not if it's of the same quality as the last two Zelda console games.

More revolutionary? No. Better game than OoT? Yes. Both Sony and MS have better games than OoT.

This. And TP was............................good, at best.

I need something like OoT and MM. Or a 3D Zelda on the level of LttP, LA and the Oracle Games

@charizard1605: original post aside (don't agree with it necessarily) there has only been ONE console Zelda in that time anyway.

It's one thing if it was an annual series, but to say that the last good console Zelda was almost a decade ago ("like a decade ago" is a stretch by the way since it was the end of 06) as a means to insinuate that the quality of the series as a whole has deteriorated is misleading. Not to mention the fact that the last original Zelda game was incredible.

Like? :-)

Well Ocarina of Time is literally the Citizen Cane of Video Games so....

No? the last few Zelda's have been above average games at best....

So you ask if one game is enough to be best console?

Not even Zelda will/can save WiiU

No it's not.

People who use the '____ is the Citizen Kane of video games' analogy almost always betray their ignorance of what Citizen Kane isjust by their inaccurate usage of the analogy.

Twilight Princess is my second favorite LoZ game. *Flame shield equipped*

This franchise needs a more realistic aesthetic, like TP had.

They don't need Zelda to be declared King Of Junk Hardware.

Nintendo is run by old men who take the cheapest route to rehashing kids games which let's face it, is all a bit weird.

It's very sad to see the gamers try be cool cats by disregarding masterpiece's.

Thankfully, reality remains unchanged.

The last console Zelda game was pure shit, can we stop pretending it's a good game or series now?

But 99% metacritic.

Stop trying to be a cool cat by pointing out when games are shit. If you want to be a proper gamer, quote metacritic.

1% from 100.

100 = perfect

I think people tend to forget that Zelda is rated on a Zelda scale. A Zelda game scoring a 7 or 8 is like other games scoring 8 and 9s. Zelda is held to a higher standard. I have no doubt the next Zelda will be another great Zelda game like all the others.

I was bored of Zelda about nine years ago.

Their need to cling to their old successes is the reason I haven't bought a Nintendo console since the N64 and won't be buying any of their consoles for a very long time yet.

They need something new and they need something fresh. And preferably a mixture of games types for mature audiences and something targeted at a younger audience.

Watering down their best franchises to cater to all ages just makes me not care. I don't mind a mindless thrash in Mario Kart on occasion but games like Witcher 3 with sex violence the works are things I go to most often.

Considering last 2 new console games flopped, I'd say no.

Correct. The video games community used the term "Citizen Kane" as a euphemism for "can video games be art now pls", eschewing what Citizen Kane is and what it meant for movies.

Gaming does have its Citizen Kane. It's Super Mario 64. Orson Wel Nintendo broke new ground, set such a high standard of expectation for its creator thereafter, and has an influence that no 3D game could escape since.

The problem is that Super Mario 64 doesn't carry the 'video games as art' banner very well, and so the entire community overlooked one of the single most important games ever. Also, lemmings, cows, and hermits probably wouldn't have it lol.

Other candidates for the title include Doom and Zelda: OoT (these two especially have a legacy that id/Nintendo can't seem to recapture), but Mario 64 is the best fit for all the categories

@uninspiredcup: Please, just stop making threads.

Most certainly not, I don't like any Zelda nor any Pokemon game.

Darksiders was better at being Zelda than Zelda was. Its bit like Charlie Chaplin entering a look-a-like competition and coming in 2nd.

Imagine of the next one managed to get 101%.

Zelda in HD for the first time ... wouldn't miss the experience

Zelda is horrible. Sorry fanboys, but 1 game doesn't automatically means it wins. No need to be so delusional.

And LOL at the other guy. Zelda is held by LOWER standards which is half the reason it gets high scores. The other half being nintendo fanboys review those games.

Nintendo games have lower standards. A 10/10 on wii u is only an 8/10 on PS4.

If Zelda came out on PS4, it would be held to higher standards and would get like a 7 at best.

Splatoon got an 8 here which means its true score is 6/10.

But cows think that Bloodborne is all it takes to win.

Seems like I am the only one who absolutely loved Skyward Sword.

It's my favorite, period. And I don't care what anyone else has to say. TP is a fucking a masterpiece.

@charizard1605_ Skyward Sword is one of the black sheep of the series, but it was amazing. I hope you finished it. Skyward Sword is akin to Majora's Mask and Zelda II: Adventure of Link. Zelda games that are not necessarily true to the norm of the series, but still damn good.

You're not the only one. The majority loved it. But as usual, the minority of haters always shout louder than the silent majority.

Metacritic says otherwise, it's the lowest rated Zelda of all time, with the name being Zelda. All the fanboys spamming 10s only means it's a 4/10 at best. Also, glad to be in the smart minority than in the stupid majority.

One game does not win a console war.

But it does, I even removed Mario to physically disable it's power, it didn't do much.

Yeah, it bothers me when people inaccurately use that analogy. The only time I think someone understood it was in that Metroid Prime article a while back. You can argue about whether Metroid Prime is the best example to use, but the journalist understood what making that comment meant.

On topic: Console Zelda games have been among the strongest titles of the generation it was released in. A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, Skyward Sword, etc. However, it can't win a generation on its own

Yeah, that article understood.

Another good one that I would mention is Bloodborne (or just Souls in general, I guess). They would fit into the mould nicely.

@charizard1605: Completely agree

skyward sword isn't shit. you just want to say that so you can sound pretentious by dissing a game from a major series.

its not an amazing game but its not horrible either.

No, if I want to sound pretentious, there's loads of other things I can (and do) do than hating on a game from my all time favorite series.

Skyward Sword is shit. Flat out a bundle of terrible decisions.

*Move the box, light the torch, reveal the switch, get the same item we've had in every Zelda since.....well, forever. Repeat until ending*

Zelda is so formulaic in nature I could play it with my eyes closed at this point, and despite cleverness in mixing up that formula to one degree or another in level design with each iteration, the tired and true fundamentals remain the same. Simply the fact that Nintendo insists upon sticking to it is now becoming more of an indication that it's not so much a strength of design (which it is, no doubt or it wouldn't have lasted this long), but more so is demonstrative of a tendency towards creative bankruptcy at the deepest levels.

Since the eighties. The EIGHTIES have we been doing this same shit dressed up differently. The franchise needs a major overhaul from the ground up, and I don't think Zelda U is going to do it, it's just going to place that same formula into an open world construct.

A verbal Stone Cold Steve Austin stunner.

Some people will claim victory no matter what is revealed but lets be honest, one game won't be enough for victory especially when the Wii u does not have third party support. They can hint it's coming but this happened with the Wii and what did you get? A crappy Bethesda racer.

Zelda looks decent so far but it's nothing I haven't seen before and I'm sceptical as to how the series has truly moved on. One hub world town and a number of dungeons ain't gonna cut it for open world.

@MirkoS77: sharing a few series staples doesn't mean that they're creatively bankrupt. Thats like complaining about goombas in mario or chocobos in final fantasy and disregarding all the other things that the games have