Do you think X1 will win the holidays?

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#1  Edited By SolidGame_basic  Online
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X1 has some pretty good exclusives coming this holiday like Halo 5, Forza 6, even Tomb Raider (like 360 version counts!). Wii U, not so much (dat Zelda yo). And PS4? well, there's to consider that it is the multiplat machine for this gen, so the heavy hitters like Call of Duty will definitely help. But surely the X1 should win this holiday? We all know PS4 automatically wins 2016.

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#2 Shewgenja
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If it stays at $350, I don't think it will make nearly the same dent it did last holiday season.

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#3 SolidTy
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I don't think I'll give it much of a thought, tbh.

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#4  Edited By A-new-Guardian
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Halo is their biggest franchise so yes.

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#5  Edited By lamprey263
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If they can deliver a quality Tomb Raider and Halo to their devote fans then sure, maybe a moral victory.

As someone else pointed out in another thread yesterday, they have a lot of bundles coming out too, and if those don't sell for the holidays, then surely they'll be selling afterwards when retailers need to clear the seasonal bundles out of inventory and offer them at a discount.

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#6  Edited By jg4xchamp
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Win in what sense? Sales?

They are selling at a loss, and the PS4 is becoming what the Xbox 360 was last gen. As in the defacto go to console for third party block buster multiplats to the mass market consumer. Frankly the PS4 is all around marketed better, and the device itself tends to maintain more positive news than anything for one reason or another. I would wager that the PS4 will actually be the big bread winner this holiday.

Games? I mean maybe, but that's if we take the PC out of the equation, and in the realm of console gaming with the lineups the 3 platforms are pimping out? It's a battle of who is the tallest midget. Make no mistake about it all 3 of them suck, one of them might suck slightly less than the others.

The ability to actually entertain champ? Halo 5 looks fun mp wise, but it's more Halo. Tomb Raider might be okay, Forza is Forza, I would have been more interested in the newer ips, there is literally no exclusive for the PS4 that appeals to me from this year (besides Bloodborne which is already out), and WiiU wise...Starfox looks fun, but it's more StarFox, mildy interested in Mario Maker, Yoshi, Xenoblade, and really wanting to play Fatal Frame, so I guess The WiiU's exclusives will ultimately end up entertaining me more this year.

Hooray.

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#7 SoftwareGeek
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I think sales are gonna be real close. X1 with it's backwards compat, PC Streaming, Windows 10 ecosystem and excellent game line up is gonna make a helluva run. I said it before on another thread and I'll say it again here. I like what Spencer and Nadella are doing with MS and Xbox. The consoles are close in terms of visual fidelity, but this really only makes a difference to hardcore fan boys. Your average consumer is going to look at all the options as opposed to number crunching graphics power.

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#8 SecretPolice
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Of course, that's the reason it's called... Xbox Won. :P

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#9 bigboss5ak
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I dunno ps4 does have those awesome marketing deals that gamers around the world are really excited about....

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#10 Heil68
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I hope so. Its sad seeing PS4 win every other month out of the year, including the critical June NPDS, which declared SONY winner of E3.

I dont think X1 will overtake PS4 as current gen 8 console leader though.

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#11 Lionheart08
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I dunno, potentially. Halo is always a big boon, but I get the feeling there's going to be a CoD PS4 bundle for the holidays.

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#12 FinalFighters
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Doubt it.

If anything i think PS4 sales will gain an even bigger boost this holiday with the E3 announcement of FF7 Remake coming to PS4.

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Don't know and don't care. MS and Sony will sell well for different reasons this holiday, as long as they are there to compete against each other than I'm happy. Gamers need competition or else we'll get a $600 dollar Playstation again with their arrogance or we'll get a $500 Xbox with features that we don't even wont.

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#14 pankar94
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@jg4xchamp:

There just a small difference.Xbox 360 was $100-150 cheaper than ps3 and it was released one year before ps3.Now ps4 is $50 more expensive than xbox one and it's selling like crazy.

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#15 LJS9502_basic
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TBH I think the hardcore Halo fans have the console already. They may move some systems at Christmas....everyone does but I don't think it will be a blow out. And if Sony reduces the cost.....

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#16 Bishop1310
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@Shewgenja said:

If it stays at $350, I don't think it will make nearly the same dent it did last holiday season.

yeah this. I think once a console its 299 tho it's not looked at the same, it's not "high class hardware" if you will, so i doubt Microsoft lowers the price at all. The thing would sell really well at $299 tho.

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Don't know, don't care

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#18 pankar94
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@LJS9502_basic:

Yes.If you are a hardcore Halo fan you wont miss the game.But there are a lot of people who didnt buy a next gen console.I think xbox can win in USA but not in Europe.Europe was always a PS territory.

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#19 LJS9502_basic
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@pankar94 said:

@LJS9502_basic:

Yes.If you are a hardcore Halo fan you wont miss the game.But there are a lot of people who didnt buy a next gen console.I think xbox can win in USA but not in Europe.Europe was always a PS territory.

I don't think the xbox can take the US either TBH. They lost some of their install base.

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#20 AzatiS
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@SolidGame_basic said:

X1 has some pretty good exclusives coming this holiday like Halo 5, Forza 6, even Tomb Raider (like 360 version counts!). Wii U, not so much (dat Zelda yo). And PS4? well, there's to consider that it is the multiplat machine for this gen, so the heavy hitters like Call of Duty will definitely help. But surely the X1 should win this holiday? We all know PS4 automatically wins 2016.

In US ? Yes ... Worldwide .. nope !

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#21 TigerSuperman
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Well yes, it's inevitable because of Sony moving games and them starting the momentum early.

For august, Xbox One has no competition, you have rare replay, Gears and MAdden, 2 of which also have bundles on top of the software. That will go into Septmeber, but also with Fifa and Forza 6 which also both have bundles. Then you have the momentum from that going to October with the Halo 5 and a couple multiplats. Then in November you have FO4 marking along with Tombraider, which tomb raider and Fall out MAY get bundles.

Fable will also be thrown in there somewhere. As well as Rainbow Six. Which has MS marketing.

This will be on top of the same multiplats as it's only competitor that tries.

Yes Sony can prevent a walloping and maybe even win one month with a price drop and bundling the right choice of games. But overall in NA I see Xbox One winning the holidays inevitable. Even more so if Sony does not drop the price or if the price drop is only $350.

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#22 TigerSuperman
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@pankar94 said:

@LJS9502_basic:

Yes.If you are a hardcore Halo fan you wont miss the game.But there are a lot of people who didnt buy a next gen console.I think xbox can win in USA but not in Europe.Europe was always a PS territory.

I don't think the xbox can take the US either TBH. They lost some of their install base.

Not really nw.

Looking at the sales aligned, there isn't a way one can say they lost their installbase. We won't know if the PS4 had taken a good chunk of the 360 userbase until after this holiday.

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#23  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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If Halo 5 turns out to be a solid launch and not make the same mistakes from MCC, then it might have a chance. Rise of Tomb Raider, we'll see if gamer will support this timely exclusive deal which by the way I'm really looking forward on how it all turns out and with Xbox One BC coming this Autumn, not much of a big deal. So with that, Xbox One is still in second place and I just don't see them catching up to PS4 this holiday. Hell MS is even lucky to be in second place thanks to Nintendo's Wii U screw ups and MS is bless not to be in 3rd place.

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#24 LJS9502_basic
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@TigerSuperman said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@pankar94 said:

@LJS9502_basic:

Yes.If you are a hardcore Halo fan you wont miss the game.But there are a lot of people who didnt buy a next gen console.I think xbox can win in USA but not in Europe.Europe was always a PS territory.

I don't think the xbox can take the US either TBH. They lost some of their install base.

Not really nw.

Looking at the sales aligned, there isn't a way one can say they lost their installbase. We won't know if the PS4 had taken a good chunk of the 360 userbase until after this holiday.

Really? Current sales don't matter? Because the hard core gamers are also the early adopters. Now it's up to some hold outs and casuals.

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#25 k--m--k
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@LJS9502_basic: that is correct, hardcore halo fans and hardcore gamers probably have the console, probably all 3 of them too.

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#26 SamusBeliskner
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It has barely sold more than the WiiU. Why would anyone think it would win the holiday?

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#27 Dire_Weasel
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It all depends on the pricing of each console going into the holidays.

If the Playstation 4 and the Xbox one each have a $299 bundle, as I suspect they will, I would say Sony will win. If Microsoft goes $299 and Sony doesn't match, then Microsoft will win.

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#28 Bruin1986
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They will both sell well. Xbox definitely has exclusives over the PS4, but the PS4 has been marketed better and is the 3rd party console of choice. In the next 9 months we are going to see Halo 5, Tomb Raider, Forza 6, Quantum Break and Scalebound, with Crackdown 3 and the new Gears title later in the year. That's a pretty stellar lineup frankly. PS4 has a great 2016 lineup and I really want to like the PS4...I just bloody HATE the Dual Shock controller. Like...my hands are crying whenever I play my friend's PS4.

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#29 LJS9502_basic
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@Bruin1986 said:

They will both sell well. Xbox definitely has exclusives over the PS4, but the PS4 has been marketed better and is the 3rd party console of choice. In the next 9 months we are going to see Halo 5, Tomb Raider, Forza 6, Quantum Break and Scalebound, with Crackdown 3 and the new Gears title later in the year. That's a pretty stellar lineup frankly. PS4 has a great 2016 lineup and I really want to like the PS4...I just bloody HATE the Dual Shock controller. Like...my hands are crying whenever I play my friend's PS4.

That's all in your head. I can game with any controller....no problem.

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#30 lostrib
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are we talking just the US?

I could see it happening

Doubt it will matter too much

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#31  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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Only if they cut it to sub-$299 with multiple bundled third party games and packed in gift cards like last year.

If the PS4 gets cut to $299 as expected the Xbone gets buried.

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#32 BigBadBully
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If not it will def. Win the week of black friday. I think xbox one will push a lot of software sales.

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#33 santoron
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IF the Bone is cheaper going into the holidays, then it should outsell PS4 in NA. WW? Lolnope.

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#34  Edited By hehe101
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Xbox could giveaway every game it has for free and people will still not buy it because PS4 is better and doesn't lie to its consumers, long live sony.

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#35 pankar94
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Tomb raider will come to,ps4 and pc in 2016.So it's not an exclusive anymore.Its official news from square enix.

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#36 jsmoke03
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yea because its cheaper and halo is coming out. i dont think tomb raider moves consoles.

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#37 QuadKnight
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@FinalFighters said:

Doubt it.

If anything i think PS4 sales will gain an even bigger boost this holiday with the E3 announcement of FF7 Remake coming to PS4.

This. I'd also add that PS4 will likely sell better considering Sony has those exclusive COD and Star Wars marketing deals. Halo is big but it isn't as big as those two juggernauts.

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@hehe101 said:

Xbox could giveaway every game it has for free and people will still not buy it because PS4 is better and doesn't lie to its consumers, long live sony.

I'm sorry,but I disagree.Xbox does indeed have a chance this holiday.Microsoft has some big exclusives and the biggest being Halo 5,in witch I'm sure will sell X1's consoles.Sony has a decent lineup of games,but I don't think it is as deep as the Xbox One.It will sell consoles,especially if Microsoft has a price drop.Don't be so quick to underestimate Microsoft.They didn't become one of the most powerful+richest corporations on the planet for being stupid.

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I know MGS5 is the only other game on PS4 I am buying this year. X1 I will buy Rare Replay, Halo 5, RotTR, Fallout 4. As for winning the holidays, I don't know, wont care all that much. I'll be playing those games.

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#40 LJS9502_basic
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@brimmul777 said:
@hehe101 said:

Xbox could giveaway every game it has for free and people will still not buy it because PS4 is better and doesn't lie to its consumers, long live sony.

I'm sorry,but I disagree.Xbox does indeed have a chance this holiday.Microsoft has some big exclusives and the biggest being Halo 5,in witch I'm sure will sell X1's consoles.Sony has a decent lineup of games,but I don't think it is as deep as the Xbox One.It will sell consoles,especially if Microsoft has a price drop.Don't be so quick to underestimate Microsoft.They didn't become one of the most powerful+richest corporations on the planet for being stupid.

They had a monopoly more or less with Windows. They don't have that with consoles.

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#41 blackace
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@SolidGame_basic: In the U.S. , definitely. Worldwide, probably not.

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#42 hrt_rulz01
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Not that I care, but yes, I think Xbone will win the Holidays.

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#43  Edited By j2zon2591
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Maybe US.

BF Deal 1 = $ 250 + Halo 5

BF Deal 2 = $ 350 + Halo 5 + Free Game/RoTR + 1 yr. XBL

IDK if Sony/retailer are willing to go for crazy PS4 BF deals. Great if they do, too.

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#44  Edited By cainetao11
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@hehe101 said:

Xbox could giveaway every game it has for free and people will still not buy it because PS4 is better and doesn't lie to its consumers, long live sony.

It was said free demos for every thing on PS4,http://www.digitalmediaacademy.org/tag/what-can-the-ps4-do/

And Watchdogs would be 1080p 60 FPS on PS4:http://www.gamespot.com/articles/watch-dogs-ps4-may-not-end-up-running-at-1080p-and-60fps/1100-6419588/

Sorry son, they lie also. All corporations do. Prefer what you wish, that's all good. Don't lie to yourself or us about them though.

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@BigShotSmoov007: I wish the PS4 was $600 then it would be way more powerful then the crap we got. the CPU is shit and slower then the PS3 CPU that's a fact

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#46 AgentA-Mi6
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It'll be fun to see the PS4 still outsell the Xbone worldwide in the holidays despite the release of Halo. I'm not 100% convinced it'll happen but there's a big chance-

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#47  Edited By hehe101
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@cainetao11 said:
@hehe101 said:

Xbox could giveaway every game it has for free and people will still not buy it because PS4 is better and doesn't lie to its consumers, long live sony.

It was said free demos for every thing on PS4,http://www.digitalmediaacademy.org/tag/what-can-the-ps4-do/

And Watchdogs would be 1080p 60 FPS on PS4:http://www.gamespot.com/articles/watch-dogs-ps4-may-not-end-up-running-at-1080p-and-60fps/1100-6419588/

Sorry son, they lie also. All corporations do. Prefer what you wish, that's all good. Don't lie to yourself or us about them though.

just gonna clarify to all the above re-read my comment with sarcasm attached

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#48  Edited By cainetao11
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@hehe101 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@hehe101 said:

Xbox could giveaway every game it has for free and people will still not buy it because PS4 is better and doesn't lie to its consumers, long live sony.

It was said free demos for every thing on PS4,http://www.digitalmediaacademy.org/tag/what-can-the-ps4-do/

And Watchdogs would be 1080p 60 FPS on PS4:http://www.gamespot.com/articles/watch-dogs-ps4-may-not-end-up-running-at-1080p-and-60fps/1100-6419588/

Sorry son, they lie also. All corporations do. Prefer what you wish, that's all good. Don't lie to yourself or us about them though.

just gonna clarify to all the above re-read my comment with sarcasm attached

Clarification noted.

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#49 brimmul777
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@brimmul777 said:
@hehe101 said:

Xbox could giveaway every game it has for free and people will still not buy it because PS4 is better and doesn't lie to its consumers, long live sony.

I'm sorry,but I disagree.Xbox does indeed have a chance this holiday.Microsoft has some big exclusives and the biggest being Halo 5,in witch I'm sure will sell X1's consoles.Sony has a decent lineup of games,but I don't think it is as deep as the Xbox One.It will sell consoles,especially if Microsoft has a price drop.Don't be so quick to underestimate Microsoft.They didn't become one of the most powerful+richest corporations on the planet for being stupid.

They had a monopoly more or less with Windows. They don't have that with consoles.

In my opinion,I think with the consoles Microsoft sold since the Xbox original,they have not done a bad job at all.I think the Xbox brand belongs in the vg market and for generations to come as well.I myself prefer Xbox over Sony or Nintendo.Let's not forget,Microsoft has brought a lot of great games into the vg market.

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#50 KBFloYd
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maybe... it won last christmas right?