Do you think Shadow warrior 2 will be better than Doom?

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Poll Do you think Shadow warrior 2 will be better than Doom? (40 votes)

Yes 43%
No 58%

Doom is recently released month ago and turn out fantastic. before the released many people skeptical especially after Awful MP beta and bad marketing (like showing slower paced version) but after released its turning from one of the most hated game to one of the most beloved game currently and to me its best FPS in recent years by far.

now shadow warrior 2 is coming out. and i think that also looks incredible. more open ended, RPG elements but keep same fast paced old school gameplay. by the look of it i think its best work by painkiller developers by far. shadow warrior reboot has some problems like very linear, and shadow realm missions including boss fights suck (similarly Doom hell parts suck as well but did better boss fight). I think it has potential to be better than new Doom.

what do you think? can it beat new Doom? or become equal? or not?

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#1 indzman
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Doom sucks.Sniper4321 sucks.Anything Sniper4321 likes sucks.

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#2  Edited By Blabadon
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They are very different games.

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#3 uninspiredcup
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Shadow Warrior 2 looks like Borderlands if it was good.

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#4 Heil68
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Different games, but I'm looking forward to it.

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#5 Ghosts4ever
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@uninspiredcup said:

Shadow Warrior 2 looks like Borderlands if it was good.

I agree. borderlands suck so much..

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#6 DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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@indzman said:

Doom sucks.

Whatever drugs you're using indzman, stop taking THE DRUGS. Doom 2016 is the best single player shooter of 2016!

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#7 indzman
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@davillain- said:
@indzman said:

Doom sucks.

Whatever drugs you're using indzman, stop taking THE DRUGS. Doom 2016 is the best single player shooter of 2016!

You didn't get the sarcasm my freind :)

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#8 DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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@indzman: Oh but I did Mr. indzman :P

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#9 Alucard_Prime
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Dont know, but I recently started playing Shadow Warrior 1 on XOne, and I was surprised as to how good it was. I couldn't believe they used the Touch from Transformers in the opening, such a cool reference.

Anyways, mechanics are great fun so the 2nd could turn out awesome too hopefully, I could see it being as good as DOOM...but better? I dont know, DOOM did what it did exceptionally well, so I think SW2 is just going to be a different kind of game. They just feel different to me.

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#10 Cloud_imperium
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Yes

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#11 Ballroompirate
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Hell no

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#12 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Nope. If the previous game is any indication it will be worth a buy on discount.

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#13 nepu7supastar7
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@indzman:

Was Doom even scary? It was pretty scary before.

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I got stuck on Shadow Warriors first boss and haven't played it since. Was pretty fun up until then.

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#15 uninspiredcup
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@indzman said:

Doom sucks.Sniper4321 sucks.Anything Sniper4321 likes sucks.

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#16  Edited By Sushiglutton
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Think it looks too unfocused. Filler fluff and RPG stuff no good for action! It will be an enjoyable game still.

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#17 with_teeth26
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I think it if has more varied locations and encounter designs it could be.

DOOM's mechanics are great but its a bit repetitive

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#18 deactivated-59d151f079814
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A massive turn off for me is the amount of melee combat in the game.... I have yet to see a actually good melee combat system done in the first person perspective.. Melee combat in fp games feel extremely floaty and clumsy at the best of times.. Not to mention incredibly limiting with the fact that your stuck facing forward and cannot turn your head or other such things.. Which you can quickly lose sight of your enemy and become disorientated due to your fix vantage.

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#19 Shadowchronicle
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Shadow Warrior 2 would probably be more popular but because of the Doom series rep I think it won't be the case.

I honestly think there's more to do with the rpg elements and the random map spawns change the game but some people don't.

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#20  Edited By MrGeezer
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@sSubZerOo said:

A massive turn off for me is the amount of melee combat in the game.... I have yet to see a actually good melee combat system done in the first person perspective.. Melee combat in fp games feel extremely floaty and clumsy at the best of times.. Not to mention incredibly limiting with the fact that your stuck facing forward and cannot turn your head or other such things.. Which you can quickly lose sight of your enemy and become disorientated due to your fix vantage.

I actually barely used any melee combat in the first game. It's entirely possible to play it using pretty much nothing but guns.

EDIT: Oh, I misread you and thought you said the first game. Yeah, I haven't been keeping up on the sequel too much, but it'll be a turnoff for me as well if it requires substantially more melee combat.

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#21 lamprey263
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No, but I think it'll be awesome nonetheless.

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#22 speedfreak48t5p
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@indzman said:

Doom sucks.Sniper4321 sucks.Anything Sniper4321 likes sucks.

This guy knows.

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#23 doubutsuteki
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@sSubZerOo said:

A massive turn off for me is the amount of melee combat in the game.... I have yet to see a actually good melee combat system done in the first person perspective.. Melee combat in fp games feel extremely floaty and clumsy at the best of times.. Not to mention incredibly limiting with the fact that your stuck facing forward and cannot turn your head or other such things.. Which you can quickly lose sight of your enemy and become disorientated due to your fix vantage.

Try Chivalry: Medieval Warfare, man. It's even possible to switch to third-person perspective in that game, if you don't fancy the first-person perspective much.

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#24 deactivated-59d151f079814
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@doubutsuteki said:
@sSubZerOo said:

A massive turn off for me is the amount of melee combat in the game.... I have yet to see a actually good melee combat system done in the first person perspective.. Melee combat in fp games feel extremely floaty and clumsy at the best of times.. Not to mention incredibly limiting with the fact that your stuck facing forward and cannot turn your head or other such things.. Which you can quickly lose sight of your enemy and become disorientated due to your fix vantage.

Try Chivalry: Medieval Warfare, man. It's even possible to switch to third-person perspective in that game, if you don't fancy the first-person perspective much.

I have.. Melee combat is still crap.. It does not work well in a first person view and the only way I can see it work is with VR.. With VR you can turn your head.. With VR you have actual depth perception..

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#25 blueinheaven
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The Shadow Warrior remake was just terrible and the trailers of the sequel look very similar, so no.

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#26 doubutsuteki
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@sSubZerOo said:
@doubutsuteki said:
@sSubZerOo said:

A massive turn off for me is the amount of melee combat in the game.... I have yet to see a actually good melee combat system done in the first person perspective.. Melee combat in fp games feel extremely floaty and clumsy at the best of times.. Not to mention incredibly limiting with the fact that your stuck facing forward and cannot turn your head or other such things.. Which you can quickly lose sight of your enemy and become disorientated due to your fix vantage.

Try Chivalry: Medieval Warfare, man. It's even possible to switch to third-person perspective in that game, if you don't fancy the first-person perspective much.

I have.. Melee combat is still crap.. It does not work well in a first person view and the only way I can see it work is with VR.. With VR you can turn your head.. With VR you have actual depth perception..

Alright. I think it's decent, and a very fun game - but there's definitely a learning curve to it.

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#27 cainetao11
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@indzman said:

Doom sucks.Sniper4321 sucks.Anything Sniper4321 likes sucks.

LMAO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (super manly laugh)

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#28 ReadingRainbow4
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I hope shadow warrior 2 is better than the 1st, I wasn't a real big fan.

I hope it plays almost nothing like the first honestly, that game was a slog.

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#29  Edited By foxhound_fox
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I played Shadow Warrior. I was not thrilled.

I played Doom (2016). I am consistently thrilled.

I cannot see Shadow Warrior 2 surpassing Doom (2016).

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#30 Ghosts4ever
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@foxhound_fox said:

I played Shadow Warrior. I was not thrilled.

I played Doom (2016). I am consistently thrilled.

I cannot see Shadow Warrior 2 surpassing Doom (2016).

shadow warrior 2 will have quick saves unlike checkpoint system. that alone make me think it may surpass Doom.

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#31 sukraj
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@with_teeth26 said:

I think it if has more varied locations and encounter designs it could be.

DOOM's mechanics are great but its a bit repetitive

yeah the level design in doom was not interesting at all I got bored with the game

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#32 foxhound_fox
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@ghosts4ever said:

shadow warrior 2 will have quick saves unlike checkpoint system. that alone make me think it may surpass Doom.

Lol, no. The fundamental core gameplay hasn't changed at all (and why would it? People enjoyed the first game).

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DOOM is amazing, the game feels like a 90s shooter.

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Nothing is better than DOOM