@Midnightshade29 said:
@jg4xchamp:
Well to me, someone who really doesn't get into multiplayer and loved rts before hero's and squads entered the picture... valve as a dev offers nothing to me.
As a lover of halflife and halflife2 the way the left fans of single player games is disgusting. Their countless speach es about only supporting free 2 play and multiplayer sealed the deal... they are no longer AAA single player game devs and greedy hat selling hacks. With their steam cash there is no reason they can't have multiple teams and be making games for every genre.
Only thing that comes to mind is greed. Why do that when they can have 1 or 2 teams who tweaks modders games and adds in some microtansaction bull shit.
All I can say is thank god for paradox indies, and kick starter or there would be nothing I want to play on pc. And this is from someone who was pc only in gen 6... the killing of single player aaa pc devs forced me to add console back to my life. I miss the era of AAA single player madterpieces... and all valve needs to do is dedicate a team for such games, but they won't. It's been a decade it ain't happening and I need to move on. :(
I didn't say anything about they don't have to make Half Life, they should given how much of a cock tease Episode 2 ends on. However, I'm not exactly fond of acting like Half Life 2 was gospel when so much of it is frankly some dull ass shit. The pious about their greed is inconsequential, because as a dev of F2P games, they have been more than generous and respectful in that regard. Neither Dota 2 or Team Fortress 2 are compromised mechanically for the sake of the model, which is usually the larger issue with F2P design to begin with.
Hat selling hacks? They pumped out one of the best competitive games on the market with a level of depth not really seen in anything that isn't something like Starcraft 2. That's not a hack, that's a pretty impressive developer.
Like I said to me the mod teams and the studios valve bought were better than valve htemselves. As far as the FPS scene, I was more into ID's stuff, More into Epic's stuff, more into Duke Nukem 3D, Ion Storm, and gen 6? Way more into Monolith's games like No One Lives Forever, AVP2, and Fear, way more into Starbreeze with things like Escape from Butcher Bay, significantly more into Retro's work, because I wouldn't even humor the idea of putting Half Life 2 over the 2 Metroid Prime games, and while we're at it shit like Far Cry/Crysis (before Crytek became console devs) and STALKER were richer gameplay experiences than what Half Life 2 had to offer. Shitty Trigun/Aliens and all.
To me if "proper Valve" is the Half Life cats, yeah they had influence, but I don't think they were ever that good. I don't subscribe to influence automatically equaling quality. Although sure Valve deserves a level of respect/admiration for how ground breaking Half Life 1 is.
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