Do we consider Portal a better series than LOU and Unch?

The Portal series has better puzzles and overall are better games. ND has good games too but they focus on graphics over gameplay in most of them, so while gameplay is average, graphcis are good. As for jaggies, it almsot made it impossible for me to play TLOU because there were just so many jaggies that all the edges everywhere looked like they were jiggling when you move. Add that to a projector sized screen and it looks terrible. I'm sure on a 720 32" tv it probably would look better though.

Here we go again, lets remove the comparison of an entirely product and say this one is better because of one segment of the game. Look TC, some people like games to be systems and just that while some look for much more in their products. If you enjoy systems, then go play chess, it has no story and you can play it over n over again or if i am being sacarstic go to work in a factory, that game is much more fun

Nope. Portal is amazing, but not Uncharted/TLOU class.

Excellent point my chum.

@uninspiredcup: portal sucks tho. Naughty Dog makes interesting games. It definitely outshines that PoS portal.

I hope everyone knows that prey was using portals in gameplay before Portal itself.

I consider Portal as good and fun as KZ and we all know how good n fun KZ is... Uc is also crappy but dat TLOU, TLOU is bwass

I do not see how he had a good point. I never played Uncharted 1 but in what way is 2 or 3 an on rails fest? Maybe when you are fighting those guys that are bigger then you, but the rest of the game, no. I have never played a Valve game, so I will not comment on them. However, you can state an opinion and agree with one, but it is different when said opinion is contains a statement that holds no truth.

My friend portals have existed since the days of Doom and pre-doom. The difference is... non of these games, including prey, used them as an puzzle mechanic. My chumling, it's worth noting as well, Portal 2 also features gravity and innovative fluid based puzzles. As well as an innovative coop based puzzle campaign. I think we can all agree, it's a superior and highly unique title.

I never played Uncharted 1 but in what way is 2 or 3 an on rails fest? Maybe when you are fighting those guys that are bigger then you, but the rest of the game, no. I have never played a Valve game, so I will not comment on them. However, you can state an opinion , but it is different when said opinion is contains a statement that holds no truth. And you say they pasted and copied Mario? Yes, Mario has platforming. So what? Come on. Do better.

Lol...What the hell does birth year have to do with anything? Because you figure if someone didn't start gaming during the PS2 era they don't get ND games or something?

A point, a very important point, is the universal appeal of portal. It's very much like a pixar movie, a child, an adult, a female, a male, any race or religions can enjoy it and appreciate it. Uncharted 2 doesn't do this. Nor LOU. They are very much macho man randy savage titles designed for man boys.

I'll give you Uncarted, but you must not have played TLOU. Joel was a very fleshed out character that was in no way a macho man. He is quite vulnerable.

My friend, it's a Viggo Mortensen in "the road" ripoff. Naughty Dog don't do original.

Way to totally change the subject matter. Proof you have nothing to say.

@uninspiredcup: its pretty obvious you've never played Uncharted or Tlou. I bet if they were PC exclusive you would give them nothing but praise.

Obviously personal preference plays a big role. They're all excellent.

But the Portal franchise is just ... I don't know... too good to be true. Really an entirely different league.

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pOrTal is a comedy .... so N.O

I'm sick and tired of repeating how UC is an onrails fest. Sony's own advertising calling UC2 a movie instead of a game focussing on onrails segments speak volumes about it.

Portal, no doubt, simply because of the gameplay.

Naughty Dog games are often boring by running through levels without much enemies around, watch cutscenes and you would have to understand the story. More like "movie" games, but I do enjoy them though. Nice to play after playing other games for a change. I definitely want to keep those kind of games in the industry, just not too many.

I got TLOU from Christmas and yeah, the AI is appalling. When I was trying to use stealth and just sneak gently, and Ellie just ran like a maniac in front of me. I mean stay the **** down otherwise enemies may hear and spot me because of that little bitch. Yeah, the game trolled me.

@zeeshanhaider: lol, its not even close to an on rails fest. Have you ever played it? Yes there are a few interactive cut scenes...they are few and far between. Why don't you try playing the game so the basis of your argument isn't Sonys advertising.

I have seen it being played from start to finish. Take out all the cutscenes and onrails sections, there won't be any gameplay left to write about.

@zeeshanhaider: lol alright man. You keep thinking that. Nobody can take your opinion seriously if you haven't even played the game.

I enjoy playing The Last Of Us and the Uncharted series more than what valve has ever made.

Lol. Oh lawdy. Crash Bandicoot, Jak and Daxter, TLOU and Uncharted are "press x to win, onrails" video games??? Silly hater you probably haven't played any of them. Jesus, that's like the only excuse ND haters come up with now.

Anyways, I enjoyed Portal 2 as much as Uncharted 2/3 and TLOU. Very different games so why even compare?!

Portal was one of the true 10/10 perfect gaming experiences, in my opinion. Amazing game design, perfect pacing, perfect difficulty and it was genuinely funny, which is something that many games attempt but few rarely succeed at.

Portal 2 was great, better than I expected, honestly, but it's difficult to create a sequel to perfection. In any case, I was highly satisfied by it, no regrets for a full-price purchase at all.

Not sure why we're bringing up TLoU or Uncharted here. They're excellent games but they don't share much in common besides high review scores.

Because these PC elitists can't stand the fact that consoles have amazing games they can't play on their machines. If that guys going to say TLOU is a "press x to win" game then portal (which I love too) is a point and click adventure in a 3D environment where you have to pixel hunt (look for the only white surfaces in the room) with little to no punishment for dying it's not if you win but when. Also TC called TLOU a frat boy shoot em' up in another thread leading me to believe he hasn't even played the game.

Even though they said that, i though on rails shooters were games like dead space extraction and house of the dead overkill? And i meant to say that i do not see how it is a QTE fest either except during the example i mentioned after asking how it was a rail fest.

originality wasn't exactly your complaint about Naughty Dog's characters, and to be fair to ND, The Last of Us is an in house ND creation. Portal and a lot of its design philosophy/characters/pacing is more a product of Kim Swift who worked for Valve on that one game.

Valve proper hasn't actually made a proper new ip on their own outside of Half Life, and Half Life is aping plenty of note worthy works in literature/science fiction. Most consistently it loves aping 1984. Regardless of these things it wouldn't change the part where Joel is actually very well done character.

Portal 2 is an outstanding experience. Especially in co-op.