Do people who bash Peter Molyneux played any of his non Fable games?

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#1 pis-aller
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Everytime I see there is something about Molyneux, I see a load of comments about he is an overrated game designer, he doesn't deserve the recognition he gets, people mock him, bash him, etc. of course I agree that he is not in a good route right now with Fable series, but people do it in a way like he is basically knows nothing about creating games. the question is have these people played any of his games like Dungeon Keeper, Black & White, Popolus, Magic Carpet, The movies ( Which I think is the best Tycoon game ever by miles ) etc.

Play these games to understand what a juggernaut he is in creating games.

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#2 emorainbo
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I remember there was a ton of PM bashing because of Black and White

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he's bashed because he hypes his games up, promises tons of things that, when the game releases, he couldn't achieve. Then he say's sorry. Maybe next time, instead of saying sorry he should meet his promises. The sad thing is that this has happened more than once.

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#4 pis-aller
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I remember there was a ton of PM bashing because of Black and White

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Yeah maybe I shouldn't have include B&W. although I think it's a great game, but it was one of the reasons of bashing.

he's bashed because he hypes his games up, promises tons of things that, when the game releases, he couldn't achieve. Then he say's sorry. Maybe next time, instead of saying sorry he should meet his promises. The sad thing is that this has happened more than once.

XVision84
That's true, that's one of his weak points, but is that a good enough reason to forget all of his previous works?
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#6 Richymisiak
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wait, pm made populous?
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#7 tenaka2
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Guy hasn't made a good game in years, his best days are behind him. He is all talk and no action, he promises the world but for the most part delivers rubbish.

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#8 badtaker
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He's creativity died when he stop supporting PC and started making lame games for xbox. :P M$ killed another developer :lol:
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#9 Masculus
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He's a microsoft whore now, he will make Fable until the end of his days.

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#10 Dire_Weasel
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Everytime I see there is something about Molyneux, I see a load of comments about he is an overrated game designer, he doesn't deserve the recognition he gets, people mock him, bash him, etc. of course I agree that he is not in a good route right now with Fable series, but people do it in a way like he is basically knows nothing about creating games. the question is have these people played any of his games like Dungeon Keeper, Black & White, Popolus, Magic Carpet, The movies ( Which I think is the best Tycoon game ever by miles ) etc.

Play these games to understand what a juggernaut he is in creating games.

pis-aller

Yep, I played Populous, Dungeon Keeper and finally Black and White. Black and White convinced me what an overrated hack he was. Fable just reconfirmed it.

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#11 pis-aller
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wait, pm made populous?Richymisiak
of course. it's one of his most famous achievements.

Guy hasn't made a good game in years, his best days are behind him. He is all talk and no action, he promises the world but for the most part delivers rubbish.

tenaka2
Well, the term rubbish is really far for his games, they don't hit the spot completely these days, yes that's true, but even I saw many people love and adore Fable 2 ( s and even 3 ) and consider them one of their best games of all time.
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#12 locopatho
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I dislike Black And White instensely.
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#13 lx_theo
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Spore was pretty good, but thats just because I love some of the stuff in the game most people wouldn't. Its okay objectively, but thats the best game he's made since the first Fable.

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he's bashed because he hypes his games up, promises tons of things that, when the game releases, he couldn't achieve. Then he say's sorry. Maybe next time, instead of saying sorry he should meet his promises. The sad thing is that this has happened more than once.

XVision84

he didn't hype Fable 3 though

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Spore was pretty good, but thats just because I love some of the stuff in the game most people wouldn't. Its okay objectively, but thats the best game he's made since the first Fable.

lx_theo
what does Spore has to do with Peter Molyneux?
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#16 ohthemanatee
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He's creativity died when he stop supporting PC and started making lame games for xbox. :P M$ killed another developer :lol:badtaker

so you agree that the movies was good?

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#17 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

Spore was pretty good, but thats just because I love some of the stuff in the game most people wouldn't. Its okay objectively, but thats the best game he's made since the first Fable.

badtaker

what does Spore has to do with Peter Molyneux?

Did I get developers mixed up? Who made Spore then?

EDIT: Will Wright, damn, I always get him and PM mixed up.

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#18 heretrix
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Populous, Syndicate and Dungeon Keeper are three of my all time favorite games.

Fable 3 is not, although I love the first two games.

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#19 badtaker
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[QUOTE="badtaker"][QUOTE="lx_theo"]

Spore was pretty good, but thats just because I love some of the stuff in the game most people wouldn't. Its okay objectively, but thats the best game he's made since the first Fable.

lx_theo
what does Spore has to do with Peter Molyneux?

Did I get developers mixed up? Who made Spore then?

Will Wright
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#20 despa1r_fact0r
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I loved Dungeon Keeper.
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#21 badtaker
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[QUOTE="badtaker"]He's creativity died when he stop supporting PC and started making lame games for xbox. :P M$ killed another developer :lol:ohthemanatee

so you agree that the movies was good?

it's not my type of game but it was unique but Dungeon Keeper and Populous were awesome
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#22 jun_aka_pekto
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wait, pm made populous?Richymisiak

Yup. He goes back a long way....back to the Amiga.

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#23 Filthybastrd
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Last time he gave the industry anything that was'nt Fable was in 2001.

Edit: Doh! I forgot The Movies.

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#24 Baranga
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I will forever hate him for cancelling B.C.

I mean why the hell would you cancel this in favour of goddamn Fable?

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#25 dercoo
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The Movies disappointed me.

I thought I could create my own movies, not cut and paste SIM like scenes.:(

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#26 FGMPR
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You missed Syndicate, another PC classic that's surely going to have it's memory raped by a remake ala X-Com in the next few years.

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#27 Chutebox
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When is the last time he's made a game that isn't Fable?

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#28 Miroku32
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I only know him from Syndicate but after that I haven't played anything else from this guy. I have noticed that people bash him because he talks thrash and never fulfill his promises.
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#29 ohthemanatee
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When is the last time he's made a game that isn't Fable?

Chutebox

the movies

and before that: black and white 2

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#30 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

he's bashed because he hypes his games up, promises tons of things that, when the game releases, he couldn't achieve. Then he say's sorry. Maybe next time, instead of saying sorry he should meet his promises. The sad thing is that this has happened more than once.

ohthemanatee

he didn't hype Fable 3 though

Yes, but that's one game out of many.

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#31 BlackDevil99
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well i do love The Movies, but seriously, he is overated, and the person that overrates him teh most, is himself.

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#32 lordreaven
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I have very fond memories of B&W.........then they where brutally raped by B&W2:cry:.

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#33 lawlessx
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People were bashing peter molyneux long before he released fable. He was always known for over promising and never living up to his word
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#34 trasherhead
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I like Peter, he is a dreamer which is what the game business needs more of.
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#35 xWoW_Rougex
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I really likeed Black and White however, I originally bought it because there of the huge pets but I never got that far, my tiger remained small.

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#36 nameless12345
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You are right, his non-Fable games were all atleast good, some even groundbreaking. The kids who bash him have no clue of his other, older/PC games.

He's creativity died when he stop supporting PC and started making lame games for xbox. :P M$ killed another developer :lol:badtaker

I have to agree here. Sadly Molyneux seems to think Fable is the best thing ever or something like that.

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I loved Magic Carpet and Black and White. He has really faded in the past two generations.

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#38 Bardock47
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I honestly think that Fable 3 was a rushed job. I was surprised that it was comming out this year, and I think that M$, rushed him, just to get it out of the door during this holiday. I haven't played it yet (Just got it:P) but basing this from the reports of bugs and glitches in the game. Have he had more time I believe F# would've een better. On the Dev himself, I only know him for Fable, and I really enjoyed Fable 2. So I am not familiar with the overhype, but wouldn't ovther devs over hype their games as well?

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#39 Ibacai
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I bash him "BECAUSE" I've played his other games. What the crap is he thinking?
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#40 skrat_01
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Oh yes he has an amazing legacy of development behind him. However the biggest problem is that in recent years he really tends to overstate. But hey, a bit of overzealousness can be enjoyable, and its not as if the Fable games have been poor.
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#41 WilliamRLBaker
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I loved magic carpet, but simply put he wrote checks on Black and white, and Black and white 2 his bank couldn't cover he promised so many things that weren't nearly as good as he made out or didn't make it, and he transfered that to the fable series...I loved fable 1...Fable 2 was a complete peice of **** and Fable 3 was a continuation of that....

After fable 3 I decided never to purchase another lionhead studios game, and I will never purchase any thing by Molyneux.

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#42 Santesyu
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He's a microsoft whore now, he will make Fable until the end of his days.

Masculus
That was pretty rude but none the less I semi agree, he has gone the ways of rare.
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#43 cainetao11
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He's a microsoft whore now, he will make Fable until the end of his days.

Masculus
Cool with me, I love Fable
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#44 Arach666
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Stuff like Syndicate,Dugeon Keeper,Magic Carpet,Populous and Black & White are all classics and only show that since he moved to console based development he became the joke that many people often think he is these days.
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#45 UnknownElement4
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I agree with Peter Molyneux losing his creativity after deciding to just make games on xbox. After that he's just been going downhill. Whats sad is he actually used to be quite respected many years ago, but now all that has changed.

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#46 BodyElite
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[QUOTE="badtaker"]He's creativity died when he stop supporting PC and started making lame games for xbox. :P M$ killed another developer :lol:

MS only made Bungie and Epic Games better over the years... Lionhead and Rare killed themselves
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[QUOTE="BodyElite"][QUOTE="badtaker"]He's creativity died when he stop supporting PC and started making lame games for xbox. :P M$ killed another developer :lol:

MS only made Bungie and Epic Games better over the years... Lionhead and Rare killed themselves

M$ would have killed bungie by forcing them to make 10 more halo's :lol: that's why bungie left M$
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#48 lazerface216
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I honestly think that Fable 3 was a rushed job. I was surprised that it was comming out this year, and I think that M$, rushed him, just to get it out of the door during this holiday. I haven't played it yet (Just got it:P) but basing this from the reports of bugs and glitches in the game. Have he had more time I believe F# would've een better. On the Dev himself, I only know him for Fable, and I really enjoyed Fable 2. So I am not familiar with the overhype, but wouldn't ovther devs over hype their games as well?

Bardock47

i just started playing too. as far as i can tell the patches have fixed most of the bugs and glitches and based off the first three hours or so it's a beautiful game, definitely a step up in that department. i've always been a fan of fable's artwork, humor and overall charm and all that's still intact. the battle system's been dumbed down a bit though, but i never thought fable's combat was anything special to begin with anyways. i always just enjoyed the quirky quests and exploring the world of albion. it's a fun little fantasy game you can just kick back and relax to.

now like i said before, i'm only around 3 or 4 hours in so that may change but so far i have to say i'm pleasantly surprised.

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#49 gamer620
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he's bashed because he hypes his games up, promises tons of things that, when the game releases, he couldn't achieve. Then he say's sorry. Maybe next time, instead of saying sorry he should meet his promises. The sad thing is that this has happened more than once.

XVision84
He is too ambitious for his own good, but that is hardly any reason to hate on the guy. Not to mention he is probably the ONLY developer to apologize to his audience for not living up to HIS vision. If this is the only reason people hate on Molyneux, than please by all means, make your own game and lets see how close you stick to your vision so I can hate on you as well.