Digital sharing and marketplace on its way on Xbox One

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#1 Posted by tdkmillsy (2097 posts) -

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-on-loaning-and-gifting-digital-xbox-one-games-we-totally-believe-in-that-future/1100-6418534/

Cant wait for this, every game I bought so far is digital.

If they do it right it will be awesome and I think they have learned a lot, so chances it will be.

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#2 Posted by clyde46 (48915 posts) -

Gifting games? Welcome to 2009, Steam was here first.

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#3 Posted by tdkmillsy (2097 posts) -

Family Sharing was only recently introduced on Steam as is also coming.

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#4 Edited by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -

Spencer said, "when you're going to say something to a consumer that might put them off, it's better to just be direct and honest, rather than trying to sugar-coat something that might be controversial."

i agree P Spencer, just tell us directly how its going to work.

which he still hasn't done.

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#5 Posted by cainetao11 (27350 posts) -

@tdkmillsy said:

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/microsoft-on-loaning-and-gifting-digital-xbox-one-games-we-totally-believe-in-that-future/1100-6418534/

Cant wait for this, every game I bought so far is digital.

If they do it right it will be awesome and I think they have learned a lot, so chances it will be.

It will be cool. I have KI, Tomb Raider digital. Was thinking Thief but i'll wait for price drop.

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#6 Posted by tdkmillsy (2097 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

Spencer said, "when you're going to say something to a consumer that might put them off, it's better to just be direct and honest, rather than trying to sugar-coat something that might be controversial."

i agree P Spencer, just tell us directly how its going to work.

which he still hasn't done.

Saving the detail for E3 perhaps.

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#7 Posted by treedoor (7648 posts) -

Has anyone used Steam sharing yet? I tried to set it up with my brother who lives 3000 miles away from me, and neither of us could see each others' games. However, my brother could see his own games when logging onto one of his two household accounts. I'm wondering if it's restricted to computers on the same network which would suck.

I hope the Xbox One sharing isn't like that. Even if I personally lost access to a game for the time I let someone else play a game from my library, I'd enjoy being able to loan out my digital games. Or potentially playing a multiplayer game with someone with one copy of the game, or someone could get "extended demos" of games that their friends play (maybe they could play the full game for 1-3 hours).

Of course I'd also like there to be zero limit on sharing games within a household across multiple systems, but I want more than just that.

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#8 Posted by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -

@treedoor: i haven't tried it but i was unaware it could be tried until now. if i have time i'll give it a shot tonight.

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#9 Posted by applefan1991 (3328 posts) -

"We are now fully heads down on thinking about and building out the future of our digital marketplace to enable what people would expect, and hopefully some things that will delight them beyond their expectations" -- Spencer

You want to delight me beyond my expectations? Drop the prices for digital games to $49.99 and I'll never buy a retail copy again.

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#10 Posted by kuu2 (8717 posts) -

This is one of the reasons I went all digital. Just think of a way to sell digital games or share them in an ecosystem that benefits the consumer. Can't wait.

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#11 Posted by gameofthering (10914 posts) -

@treedoor: I've gave my friend access to my games via family sharing. He lives about 10 minutes away from me. Works fine for him.

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#12 Posted by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

@treedoor: i haven't tried it but i was unaware it could be tried until now. if i have time i'll give it a shot tonight.

I think the steps we used were...

- Log into each others' account on your own computer

- Log back into your own account

- Steam > settings > family > authorize accounts

I may be missing a step.

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#13 Edited by SolidTy (49634 posts) -

Screw digital console games. I only buy them cheap and only when there is no physical alternative.

This is a baby step in the right direction, but I'll reserve my final judgements on this baby step for when it actually materializes.

Ultimately, the digital system is dependent on modern support and as a collector that looks years in the future, I don't see the Xbone One, PS4, or Wii U ecosystems lasting forever which jeopardizes my collection.

Not to mention, digital games don't have a collector's value.

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#14 Posted by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@gameofthering said:

@treedoor: I've gave my friend access to my games via family sharing. He lives about 10 minutes away from me. Works fine for him.

Is there a step I'm missing from what I posted up above?

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#15 Posted by kuu2 (8717 posts) -

How did this turn into a whiny thread about digital pricing???

Man people, no one forces you to buy hard/soft copy software. Relax, prices on digital come down just look at what is happening on the 36o. There are some smokin deals for someone that is just getting a 36o. Not to mention even on The One TR and Theif are getting cheaper on a digital basis because sales are soft.

Good times.

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#16 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@WadeFan said:

"We are now fully heads down on thinking about and building out the future of our digital marketplace to enable what people would expect, and hopefully some things that will delight them beyond their expectations" -- Spencer

You want to delight me beyond my expectations? Drop the prices for digital games to $49.99 and I'll never buy a retail copy again.

Not going to happen due to price-matching.

Blame Walmart, and others.

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#17 Posted by gameofthering (10914 posts) -

@treedoor said:

@gameofthering said:

@treedoor: I've gave my friend access to my games via family sharing. He lives about 10 minutes away from me. Works fine for him.

Is there a step I'm missing from what I posted up above?

@treedoor said:

@gameofthering said:

@treedoor: I've gave my friend access to my games via family sharing. He lives about 10 minutes away from me. Works fine for him.

Is there a step I'm missing from what I posted up above?

What I did was:

  • Sign into my account on his computer
  • Then go to "View" - "Settings" - "Family" and then click "Authorize this computer"

After doing that he signed out of my account and back into his account and my library was available to him.

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#18 Edited by hoosier7 (4166 posts) -

Loaning games sounds good but unless there's a way to get more value out of games then i'll stick to retail. If they drop the price enough for it to be cheaper than buying and trading in later then they've got me.

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#19 Posted by Nonstop-Madness (9649 posts) -
@WadeFan said:

"We are now fully heads down on thinking about and building out the future of our digital marketplace to enable what people would expect, and hopefully some things that will delight them beyond their expectations" -- Spencer

You want to delight me beyond my expectations? Drop the prices for digital games to $49.99 and I'll never buy a retail copy again.

Very unlikely. Publishers are moving towards digital because it allows them to increase their share of the $60 price tag.

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#20 Edited by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@gameofthering said:

What I did was:

  • Sign into my account on his computer
  • Then go to "View" - "Settings" - "Family" and then click "Authorize this computer"

After doing that he signed out of my account and back into his account and my library was available to him.

We did that, and our accounts show up as authorized in each others' Steam settings.

There must be some setting that's not clicked somewhere......but where?.....

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#21 Posted by tormentos (24091 posts) -

@tdkmillsy said:

Family Sharing was only recently introduced on Steam as is also coming.

sharing games was part of PSN long ago... Welcome to last gen MS..

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#22 Posted by applefan1991 (3328 posts) -

@Nonstop-Madness said:
@WadeFan said:

"We are now fully heads down on thinking about and building out the future of our digital marketplace to enable what people would expect, and hopefully some things that will delight them beyond their expectations" -- Spencer

You want to delight me beyond my expectations? Drop the prices for digital games to $49.99 and I'll never buy a retail copy again.

Very unlikely. Publishers are moving towards digital because it allows them to increase their share of the $60 price tag.

Oh I know. I'm just wishfully thinking that since they are getting more profits they could pass that on in the form of savings to customers but lets be honest, that will never happen.

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#23 Posted by Heil68 (56029 posts) -

We'll see how the loaning goes when 10+ people play 1 bought copy. I'm sure that will go over just peachy with MS..lolz

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#24 Edited by I_can_haz (6511 posts) -

That's funny I've been sharing games on PSN since '06 and with Steam I could always gift games. Welcome to last gen lems.

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#25 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (12442 posts) -

@I_can_haz said:

That's funny I've been sharing games on PSN since '06 and with Steam I could always gift games. Welcome to last gen lems.

But you cannot share games on PS4 the way you used to on PS3. And you can do it on X1 exactly the same as you could on PS3.

How's that bad?

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#26 Posted by tdkmillsy (2097 posts) -

come on, you can share Xbox One digital games with 1 person now just the same as PSN.

What they are talking about is sharing with 10 people.

Having a digital market place

Loaning games

All of which you cannot do on PSN.

Why cant fanboy idiots just say that's good wish we had that.

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#27 Posted by Mr-Kutaragi (2462 posts) -

@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy said:

Family Sharing was only recently introduced on Steam as is also coming.

sharing games was part of PSN long ago... Welcome to last gen MS..

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#28 Posted by tdkmillsy (2097 posts) -

@Mr-Kutaragi said:

@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy said:

Family Sharing was only recently introduced on Steam as is also coming.

sharing games was part of PSN long ago... Welcome to last gen MS..

oh look someone else trying to be clever and failing.

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#29 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (7199 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

Spencer said, "when you're going to say something to a consumer that might put them off, it's better to just be direct and honest, rather than trying to sugar-coat something that might be controversial."

i agree P Spencer, just tell us directly how its going to work.

which he still hasn't done.

Didn't he say that MS are still trying to work it out. All they're saying right now is that they're trying to get some of those features people had positive reactions to back. In fact they said at the time they may come back.

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#30 Edited by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -

@HalcyonScarlet said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

Spencer said, "when you're going to say something to a consumer that might put them off, it's better to just be direct and honest, rather than trying to sugar-coat something that might be controversial."

i agree P Spencer, just tell us directly how its going to work.

which he still hasn't done.

Didn't he say that MS are still trying to work it out. All they're saying right now is that they're trying to get some of those features people had positive reactions to back. In fact they said at the time they may come back.

yes that's correct. i remember reading Marc Whitten's comments shortly after the reversal. essentially, they still plan to deploy the cloud-centric features, like family sharing.

thing is, i heard about family sharing way back when they first announced it. unfortunately, despite my best efforts to learn about it - i couldn't. why not? well because the information wasn't made available to me.

and that's really what I'm after. concrete information about how its going to work. i feel that's what we should have received when they first announced it.

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#31 Edited by NFJSupreme (6285 posts) -

Lord Gabe in his infinite wisdom and unending kindness gave me the ability to do this years ago. Thank you Lord Gabe.

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#32 Edited by blackace (22895 posts) -
@clyde46 said:

Gifting games? Welcome to 2009, Steam was here first.

First on consoles. I don't think you can load digital games on Steam.

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@Mr-Kutaragi said:

@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy said:

Family Sharing was only recently introduced on Steam as is also coming.

sharing games was part of PSN long ago... Welcome to last gen MS..

Can you or Tormentos provide a link on this? On which Playstation platform did this occur? Give us proof.

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#34 Posted by blackace (22895 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

Gifting games? Welcome to 2009, Steam was here first.

First on consoles. I don't think you can load games on Steam.

@WadeFan said:

"We are now fully heads down on thinking about and building out the future of our digital marketplace to enable what people would expect, and hopefully some things that will delight them beyond their expectations" -- Spencer

You want to delight me beyond my expectations? Drop the prices for digital games to $49.99 and I'll never buy a retail copy again.

I'm think lower then that. $30-$35 at the most for newly released digital game. I still think $50 is well overpriced. Using digital, developer won't even need a publisher except for marketing purposes. With the money they save, they could market the game themselves. The most I've ever paid for a digital games was $40. I still though that was too much. I still think they have a ways to go with digital, unless they can get prices like what's on Steam.

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#35 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@blackace said:

@clyde46 said:

Gifting games? Welcome to 2009, Steam was here first.

First on consoles. I don't think you can load games on Steam.

Really?

I load games all the time. Sometimes I even pre-load them

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#36 Posted by Mystery_Writer (8264 posts) -

seems MS gonna try everything until it realizes it's the inferior graphics is what lead people to abandon their console.

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#37 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (12442 posts) -

^ That's pretty shallow reasoning if you ask me.

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#38 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (6843 posts) -

Keep on hoping, lems. They'll be bringing back the DRM too.

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#39 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (12442 posts) -

^ Sony already beat them to that, didn't she?

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#40 Posted by gago-gago (11180 posts) -

Even though my bro and I are already game sharing our digital games, having my other sibling and friends join in just makes it sweeter. With price drops and sales on games on top of that, this is good news for this console. You can't game share with different PS4s, I hope they follow next.

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#41 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (6843 posts) -

It made me laugh when lems hailed the used game DRM as "beneficial for the industry" while neglecting to remember the 10 person sharing program.

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#42 Posted by ButDuuude (861 posts) -

@tdkmillsy: Welcome to 2006

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#43 Posted by tdkmillsy (2097 posts) -

@@ButDuuude said:

@tdkmillsy: Welcome to 2006

Yawn and another.

Please tell me how you could sell digital games, share with 10 people and lend them out in 2006.

Didn't think so.

@GrenadeLauncher Digital games has DRM on all systems anyways, adding benefits to this is a good thing.

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#44 Posted by ButDuuude (861 posts) -

@tdkmillsy: I remember sharing games on my PS3 with up to 5 people, before Sony reduced the about amount of people you could share with.

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#45 Posted by GrenadeLauncher (6843 posts) -

The only benefit would be pubs running a mile from Microshit.

@GrenadeLauncher said:

It made me laugh when lems hailed the used game DRM as "beneficial for the industry" while neglecting to remember the 10 person sharing program.

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#46 Posted by tormentos (24091 posts) -

@blackace said:
@Mr-Kutaragi said:

@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy said:

Family Sharing was only recently introduced on Steam as is also coming.

sharing games was part of PSN long ago... Welcome to last gen MS..

Can you or Tormentos provide a link on this? On which Playstation platform did this occur? Give us proof.

You are a sad troll funny how you claim to be a manticore that own all consoles yet you don't know you could share games on PSN on PS3 .?

To clarify: PSN games downloaded after November 18th can be shared to two PS3 systems and two PSPs, down from the original number of five. Sony is also adding a web tool that finally allows you to deactivate your account from old systems, saving you the hassle of a long customer support call in the event that your PS3 fails and you need to recover your games on a new console.

Game sharing was always one of the more interesting things that PSN brought to the table, allowing you to “bring” games to your friend’s house or share them with a family member’s account when you were home for the holidays. While reports of abuse certainly came up, most gamers probably used the system exactly as intended.

http://www.qj.net/ps3/news/sony-dropping-psn-game-share-limit.html

You are a sad sad poster who do nothing but kiss MS ass 24 7 you fake manticore..

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#47 Posted by tormentos (24091 posts) -
@tdkmillsy said:

@@ButDuuude said:

@tdkmillsy: Welcome to 2006

Yawn and another.

Please tell me how you could sell digital games, share with 10 people and lend them out in 2006.

Didn't think so.

@GrenadeLauncher Digital games has DRM on all systems anyways, adding benefits to this is a good thing.

To clarify: PSN games downloaded after November 18th can be shared to two PS3 systems and two PSPs, down from the original number of five. Sony is also adding a web tool that finally allows you to deactivate your account from old systems, saving you the hassle of a long customer support call in the event that your PS3 fails and you need to recover your games on a new console.

Game sharing was always one of the more interesting things that PSN brought to the table, allowing you to “bring” games to your friend’s house or share them with a family member’s account when you were home for the holidays. While reports of abuse certainly came up, most gamers probably used the system exactly as intended.

http://www.qj.net/ps3/news/sony-dropping-psn-game-share-limit.html

Funny how you people know so much about the PS3 yet you don't know you could share PSN games with up to 5 PS3.?

So yeah welcome to last gen MS,whats next cross game between PC and consoles or mods.? Oh wait they announce they would support mods already but i don't see one yet,when again the PS3 did it last gen,but but but XBL is better,and to think PSN was free last gen.

@ButDuuude said:

@tdkmillsy: I remember sharing games on my PS3 with up to 5 people, before Sony reduced the about amount of people you could share with.

Exactly apparently they didn't know this,hell i bring this several times here as an advantage of PSN over live.

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#48 Edited by misterpmedia (5976 posts) -

Something about this seems way too good to be true. I doubt publishers are gonna be happy with this. 1 sale of a game and 10 people who don't even have to buy the game get a chance to play it and then not buy it....hmm..

It was abused on the PS3 which is why the number of people allowed was cut down, it will be abused with this.

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#49 Edited by iloveatlus (599 posts) -

@tdkmillsy said:

@@ButDuuude said:

@tdkmillsy: Welcome to 2006

Yawn and another.

Please tell me how you could sell digital games, share with 10 people and lend them out in 2006.

Didn't think so.

@GrenadeLauncher Digital games has DRM on all systems anyways, adding benefits to this is a good thing.

You can find people selling digital games for paypal on steamtrades.com