Digital Foundry Analysis BF4 (PS4 vs Xbone)

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#101 blackace
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@Shewgenja said:

RIP XBone. We never really got to know you. LOL

You will when they start using the new devkits.

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#102 Gue1
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Better video than the shit DF comparison.

Loading Video...

Apparently Xbone boosted effects to hide lower quality assets.

but Youtube is only 30 frames and the game's 60! But you know who has one that plays 60 frames but they don't use it? Freaking Gamespot!

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#103 PinkiePirate
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What is with the darker gamma on the Xbox One? The 360 had the same issue. I hate that. Let me adjust the color through my TV, please.

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#104 shawn30
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Gonna call it a night. Great to get side by side pics, the full preview/review, and the vids. I'll stand by what my eyes see. A minimal difference at best. Cows are in a frenzy to discount the Xbox One's showing in BF4. No greater evidence they are a bit worried:)

Anyway, by whatever you like bets. But expecting that 50% difference in graphics, you're gonna be very disappointed. Judge with your own eyes. The battle continues, lol...

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#106 FragTycoon
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@blackace said:

@Shewgenja said:

RIP XBone. We never really got to know you. LOL

You will when they start using the new devkits.

Just wait....

for dev kits.....

LOL!!!!

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#107 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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@hoosier7 said:

@AMD655 said:

I will be honest, all 3 versions are looking great, however the X one version has terrible contrast, and even has effects in place to hide stuff such as the over done depth of field on the helicopter scene.

It seems to have different lighting to the PS4 and PC versions for some reason.

AA's the most noticeable bit for me, the PS4's winning out there and overall is the nearest to the PC version.

Also why is the XBO version missing clouds? (Insert ironic cloud based joke)

Not sure, but the xone version lacks a few things.... and also adds some stuff too.

There is no Ambient Occlusion (HBAO is an Nvidia method that both PC and PS4 have on, but it is none existent in the Xone video.)

Added depth of field to blend the background in, as of what i can see, the Xone version is definitely cutting a lot of corners.

-Hermit.

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#108 santoron
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50% fewer pixels being drawn compared to the other console version and the XB1 still has more framerate issues?

Not a great sign, though it's important to remember we're looking at a launch title here. Plenty of time for devs to wrap their heads around MS's "unique" architecture.

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#109 neo418
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@shawn30: Or get better eyes........

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#110  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@Gue1 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Better video than the shit DF comparison.

Loading Video...

Apparently Xbone boosted effects to hide lower quality assets.

but Youtube is only 30 frames and the game's 60! But you know who has one that plays 60 frames but they don't use it? Freaking Gamespot!

I'm really happy devs are straying away from the 30 fps cap even if the games aren't at a steady 60 100% of the time.

That shit annoyed me about console shooters to no end.

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#111  Edited By MightyMuna
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How can the PS4 version have 50% more pixels and better frame rate?

Is the power difference between both consoles that much profound?

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#112 neo418
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@MightyMuna: tormentos has been right all this time

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#114 I_can_haz
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@MightyMuna said:

How can the PS4 version have 50% more pixels and better frame rate?

Is the power difference between both consoles that much profound?

It is. CBOAT and other insiders at GAF tried to tell lems but they denied it, they believed ESRAM would be sufficient to offset the better RAM and GPU of PS4. The truth must sting now. Paying $100 more for 50% less pixels and worse framerates. Sucks to be a lem now.

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#115 ELJUDEZ
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IGN comparison video.

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#116 PhazonBlazer
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What is with the weird Cheetos filter on the Xbone version?

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#117 PraetorianMan
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@Couth_ said:

While they both looked like ass, xbone version looks better in some areas. Scaler chip secret sauce?

This picture, unfortunately, ignores the resolution disparity between the two versions.

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#118 ReadingRainbow4
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Couth can't tell the difference between a scaler chip and limited RGB with over sharpening apparently.

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#119 PraetorianMan
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@shawn30:

The difference may be "minimal", but it doesn't change the fact that the Xbox One version is slightly inferior... which is a problem given how its the more expensive console.

Higher cost, inferior product.

No, that's not good news.

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#120 blackace
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@FragTycoon said:
@blackace said:

@Shewgenja said:

RIP XBone. We never really got to know you. LOL

You will when they start using the new devkits.

Just wait....

for dev kits.....

LOL!!!!

They aren't using the newest devkits. They are using the old ones with the old hardware. That's why devs were pissed and was thinking about delaying the games. It'll be pretty funny if EA patches the game with by the end of the year. Don't really care as I'm not getting either game (BF4 or COD: Ghost). lol!! Halo 5 will use the new devkits. We'll see what people have to say when that game is released.

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#121 Truth_Hurts_U
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I might have to sell my PS4 on Ebay lol. Good news!

MS failed hard.

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#122 Gue1
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@MightyMuna: tormentos has been right all this time

the poor guy fought that war against Ron and a bunch of other lems basically all by himself. After all the secret sauce arguments and other spins about balance and latency... Only el tormo was right. ;(

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#123  Edited By neo418
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@blackace: That it won't be as good as halo 1,2, or 3?

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@I_can_haz said:

Honestly at this point it would be really stupid to stick with the XB1 if you have it preordered. Why would anyone settle for 720p in 2013 for $100 more? PS4 costs $400 and gives you better res and better framerates right out of the gate. Sure someone can still get XB1 for the exclusives later down the line but this early multiplats are the main reason to buy consoles at launch with only a few exclusives that really stand out on either side. So far the only XBone exclusive that is confirmed 1080p is Forza 5 and it does so by basically being and upscaled Forza 4.

I'd seriously be considering dropping my preorder for an Xbone if I had one now. Wait for M$ to sort out their issues and do a major price drop. The box just isn't worth $500. 720p in 2013 is a sad joke.

You spoke to much logic to be in system wars! what are you trying to do? Reason with rabbid lems? get outta here!

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#125  Edited By ShepardCommandr
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lol xbox looks like shit

PC is the clear winner here though.

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#126 I_can_haz
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@neo418 said:

@MightyMuna: tormentos has been right all this time

Yep he was right and Tess, Ron, blackace and all the other lems were wrong. I guess he's SWs official tech king now.

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#127  Edited By Couth_
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There is a lot of inconsistency with different videos coming out right now. For this pic i was mainly looking at the guys hair which is clearly best on xb0ne.

As far as resolution goes 900p is still weak and 900 or 720p are both not 1080 much less 1440.. So it's evident these youtube quality videos are not worthy for comparison. It's also looking like DF altered their xbone footage. looks nothing like the IGN footage

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#128 SRTtoZ
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Oh god. I honestly thought the difference would be mostly resolution, but we have missing AA, worse shadows, missing shadows, missing detail, no AO (that I can see). While the PS4 version looks miles better and even offers better motion blur and HBAO. This is a huge blow for MS.

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#129 I_can_haz
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@joel_c17 said:

@I_can_haz said:

Honestly at this point it would be really stupid to stick with the XB1 if you have it preordered. Why would anyone settle for 720p in 2013 for $100 more? PS4 costs $400 and gives you better res and better framerates right out of the gate. Sure someone can still get XB1 for the exclusives later down the line but this early multiplats are the main reason to buy consoles at launch with only a few exclusives that really stand out on either side. So far the only XBone exclusive that is confirmed 1080p is Forza 5 and it does so by basically being and upscaled Forza 4.

I'd seriously be considering dropping my preorder for an Xbone if I had one now. Wait for M$ to sort out their issues and do a major price drop. The box just isn't worth $500. 720p in 2013 is a sad joke.

You spoke to much logic to be in system wars! what are you trying to do? Reason with rabbid lems? get outta here!

LOL I hope mods don't ban me soon for being too logical :P

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#130 MightyMuna
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Guys watch this vid.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/battlefield-4-xbox-oneps4-graphics-comparison

Especially at the 2 min mark. The difference is quite glaring.

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#131 SRTtoZ
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MS dropped the ball. I'm pissed.

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#132 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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Xone looks like current gen in multiplayer......

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/battlefield-4-xbox-oneps4-graphics-comparison

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#133  Edited By Couth_
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smh@digital foundry

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Lots of aliasing in the Xbox One but I've gotta say that the shadows and lighting look more appealing on it than the PS4. I'm not sure if that is just the anti-aliasing or some kind of FXAA blurring up the textures.

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#135 I_can_haz
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Zero motion blur on Xbone version's MP:

lol WTF?

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#136  Edited By SRTtoZ
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Here is a screencap of the XB1 MP. Seriously, does this not look like current gen? Yuck.

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#137  Edited By I_can_haz
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@Couth_: Yea DF failed in their comparison vids. Thank God for other captures.

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#138 blackace
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@I_can_haz said:

@neo418 said:

@MightyMuna: tormentos has been right all this time

Yep he was right and Tess, Ron, blackace and all the other lems were wrong. I guess he's SWs official tech king now.

Not a lem and I wasn't wrong. I said lets wait for confirmation. Also, the PS4 version is 900P upscaled to 1080. I said most likely both versions would be 900P upscaled to 1080P and I wasn't to far off on that. Cow got it wrong, as they kept saying it would be 1080P Native @60fps and it's not. lol!! It's 900P native, upscaled to 1080p.

"DF: . On the other hand, the PS4 version delivers a whopping 1600x900 resolution in all modes, giving it a 50 per cent lead in output pixels overall. As well as cutting down on jagged edges, this reduces the amount of pixel shimmer we see in motion on complex shaders or thin geometry, with distant power lines, scaffolding and other elements with sub-pixel elements creating unwanted flickering on Xbox One.

This should surely be a home run for Sony's console, but what is likely to be a software-based upscale to 1080p delivers less-than-stellar returns, and for better or worse leaves the Xbox One with an often crisper looking, albeit much more aliased image."

Stop embarrassing yourself son. I'm not getting the game, but I'm getting both systems.

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#139  Edited By I_can_haz
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@blackace: Stop crying dude. The XB1 version looks worse, it's over. Look at the other captures people are posting. Did you see the IGN XB! MP vid? It looks like a current gen game on XB1, no motion blur and little shadows. Do yourself a favor and cancel your XB1 preorder, the domination has won.

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#140  Edited By PraetorianMan
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Does anyone else find it ironic that the Xbox One version seems to have fewer clouds?

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#141  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@I_can_haz said:

@Couth_: Yea DF failed in their comparison vids. Thank God for other captures.

DF is being actively called out on this too, it'll be interesting to see what bs excuses they give.

Lol did GS mistake the 360 version for the xbone? kept seeing 1080 pop up next to it.

Yo couth, ps4 and PC share the same hair, Nappy and happy is exclusive to the xbone apparently.

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#142 I_can_haz
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@PraetorianMan said:

Does anyone else find it ironic that the Xbox One version seems to have fewer clouds?

Yea it's pretty hilarious.

Watch this capture of 60fps gameplay on XB1, PS4 and PC: http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/batt.../1900-6415517/

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#143 Xaero_Gravity
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Well, looks like my pre order isn't changing. I was expecting a bigger difference after all the rumors.

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#144 I_can_haz
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More comparison.

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#145  Edited By Far_RockNYC
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XboxWON!

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#146  Edited By I_can_haz
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Seems XB1 MP doesn't have AA compared to the PS4 version (IGN capture). This is why they were hiding the XB1 version from us:

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@blackace said:

@I_can_haz said:

@neo418 said:

@MightyMuna: tormentos has been right all this time

Yep he was right and Tess, Ron, blackace and all the other lems were wrong. I guess he's SWs official tech king now.

Not a lem and I wasn't wrong. I said lets wait for confirmation. Also, the PS4 version is 900P upscaled to 1080. I said most likely both versions would be 900P upscaled to 1080P and I wasn't to far off on that. Cow got it wrong, as they kept saying it would be 1080P Native @60fps and it's not. lol!! It's 900P native, upscaled to 1080p.

"DF: . On the other hand, the PS4 version delivers a whopping 1600x900 resolution in all modes, giving it a 50 per cent lead in output pixels overall. As well as cutting down on jagged edges, this reduces the amount of pixel shimmer we see in motion on complex shaders or thin geometry, with distant power lines, scaffolding and other elements with sub-pixel elements creating unwanted flickering on Xbox One.

This should surely be a home run for Sony's console, but what is likely to be a software-based upscale to 1080p delivers less-than-stellar returns, and for better or worse leaves the Xbox One with an often crisper looking, albeit much more aliased image."

Stop embarrassing yourself son. I'm not getting the game, but I'm getting both systems.

LOL!

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#148  Edited By Douevenlift_bro
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LOL at the contrast turned up on Xbone to try and fool people.. P.O.S is a jaggy mess

LMAO. TLHBO.. Next gen is gonna be so much fun :)

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#149  Edited By Douevenlift_bro
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@blackace said:

@Shewgenja said:

RIP XBone. We never really got to know you. LOL

You will when they start using the new devkits.

I guess this is the new excuse ^ LMAO.

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#150  Edited By Truth_Hurts_U
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@I_can_haz:

As Crytek said, 32MB of ESRAM is to small to do proper AA.