Did you like Yamauchi's Nintendo more or Iwata's?

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#1 nameless12345
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Which era did you like more and why?

Personally, I liked the Yamauchi San era more.

Nintendo's games felt harder and more visionary back then, imo.

I'm not that fond of the motion-control direction they took with the Wii (and to lesser extent with the DS).

The way I see it, motion controllers can be neat for some type of games (i.e. light-gun shooters, dance sims, rhytm games, ect.) but on the whole I prefer the "traditional" control scheme, but with improvements that benefit gameplay in notable ways.

But it must also be said that in that era Nintendo did some quite big mistakes.

For example introducing the eye-melting and short lived Virtual Boy (which costed it's creator - also the creator of the widely popular Game Boy, Gunpei Yokoi, his position at Nintendo - the man died in a tragic accident in 1997) and sticking with the limited storage cartriges on the N64 and making it hard to develop for (Nintendo never fully recovered from the loss of 3rd party support that happened due to that).

When Iwata came on board, the much risky ideas of a "3rd tier" platform (namely the DS) and the Wii (aka "Nintendo Revolution") were concieved but much to the market analyst and gamer's surprise, they turned out a huge success.

The declining market share the company took with the N64 and GC made a big turn around as the Wii was a pure success and the most successful home console they made and the DS sales surpassed those of the original GB, making it the most successful handheld console they made.

But not everyone was fond of the success of those systems.

There were criticisms about those systems being "underpowered" and "gimmicky" and also lacking 3rd party (multiplat) support.

Not all gamers warmly welcomed the change but at the same time a new and grateful audience arose.

The people who previously didn't care about games started to become interested in them and were fond of the new devices.

Nintendo's "family friendly" image was at it's strongest point.

But they also started to realize that they lost some appeal to the "enthusiast gamers" and started to focus more on them with the 3DS and the upcomming Wii U.

The Wii U in particular looks like a very strong system in the sense that it will likely appeal to both, the "enthusiast gamer" (due to many good, original games and new ways to play games) as well as the "occasional gamer", who will likely find himself at home with the tablet-like controller and even broaden his gaming interests.

What ever the future of the company holds, it will be interesting to see it.

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#2 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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It isn't a completely fair comparison as decisions made during one era greatly affected the other. Also, the industry is completely different today than it was when Yamauchi was around.
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#3 Vickman178
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Gamecube was under Iwata not Yamauchi!

I think they are both good, DS surpassed Game Boy in my opinion and think that was something great that came from Iwata being in control. I also had a blast with Gamecube.Even though Wii was a slight disapointment I think Wii U is going to be awesome.

I also think some developers hold a grudge against Nintendo from how Yamauchi handled things.

Iwata is a great president though, the market was changing he saw it coming and adapted the company.

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#4 nintendoboy16
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For all the good things Yamauchi did, there has been a lot more bad.
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#5 yoshi_64
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Gamecube came late to Iwata, in fact most of the damage for Gamecube was attributed to Iwata and his stance on not trying to ease in 3rd party support, and stubbornly refusing to try new bold things with the system. IMO, Iwata has really changed the company for the better. Most people think that the Wii killed gaming, but I love my Wii. Also Iwata has been improving the company more lately, look to Wii U and 3DS/DS systems. They've got so much more support than N64 and GC ever did. The company is really in a much better financial situation, and they're really embracing new things with technology but putting their own unique spin on it. Iwata IMO has really become a good image for Nintendo too, over Yamauchi's era.
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#6 nameless12345
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Gamecube was under Iwata not Yamauchi!

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The design philosophy behind GC (i.e. cheap, graphically advanced machine with an emphasis on games) was Yamauchi's work.

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#7 dreamdude
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My heart has room for both.

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#8 Nintendo_Ownes7
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My heart has room for both.

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I like both of them. Sure Yamauchi was around a lot longer then Iwata so it isn't a fair comparison at the moment.

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#9 christiankhs-2
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Yamauchi Yamauchi = the hardcore era Iwata = the casual /gimmick era ( good design era though) Also the NDS i think also belongs to Yamauchi era , the DS was his suggestion if i remember well
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Miyamoto should be in charge, and I have a feeling he will be someday.
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#11 ShadowDeathX
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If it wasn't for Yamauchi, Nintendo wouldn't be where it is right now. THEY WOULDN'T BE MAKING VIDEO GAMES. hehe... I like both though.
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#12 parkurtommo
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Yamauchi of course.

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#13 ultimate-k
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Yamauchis, soon as Iwata took over, nintnedo went down hill, Iwata doesnt have a clue on what hes doing.

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#14 Seabas989
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I like both but Yamauchi I read was a jerk.

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#15 nameless12345
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Yamauchis, soon as Iwata took over, nintnedo went down hill, Iwata doesnt have a clue on what hes doing.

ultimate-k

Not in sales...

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#16 ultimate-k
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[QUOTE="ultimate-k"]

Yamauchis, soon as Iwata took over, nintnedo went down hill, Iwata doesnt have a clue on what hes doing.

nameless12345

Not in sales...

Sadly money rules all, I dont like the new nintendo with all the gimmicks n stufff, I want old nintendo back!

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#17 Mario1331
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Yamauchi of course.

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:o what is your sig

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#18 hiphops_savior
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Yamauchi is also one of the biggest reasons why Nintendo consoles have such crappy 3rd party support since the N64.
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#19 Jonwh18
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can't decide :cry: DS is my favorite system ever but Y Yamauchi's era had so much better home consoles. :cry:

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#20 campzor
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yamauchi of course
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#21 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="ultimate-k"]

Yamauchis, soon as Iwata took over, nintnedo went down hill, Iwata doesnt have a clue on what hes doing.

ultimate-k

Not in sales...

Sadly money rules all, I dont like the new nintendo with all the gimmicks n stufff, I want old nintendo back!

Agreed!

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#22 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="ultimate-k"]

Yamauchis, soon as Iwata took over, nintnedo went down hill, Iwata doesnt have a clue on what hes doing.

ultimate-k

Not in sales...

Sadly money rules all, I dont like the new nintendo with all the gimmicks n stufff, I want old nintendo back!

You want the old Nintendo where everybody hated them even then? Nintendo was NOT better off with Yamauchi after all he did.

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Iwata > Yamauchi

That's a FAT!

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Miyamoto should be in charge, and I have a feeling he will be someday.Heirren
No, I have fears about what Miyamoto might do. I have mass respect in the guy, but he might have far more restrictions than Yamauchi ever did if he ever became leader of Nintendo.
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#26 ConanTheStoner
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Equally, but I think Iwata is the smartest business man the company has ever had. Without his direction I doubt Nintendo would be wildly successful today.

Overall, Nintendo has basically been the same company from the start (or at least the start of their involvement in gaming). They have this unwavering culture and a distinct styIe they have maintained throughout the years and there ultimate goals have never really changed.

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#27 Human-after-all
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Wasn't Yamauchi like crazy? or went crazy? Success is much larger under Iwata.
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#28 MirkoS77
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Iwata has kept Nintendo successful, but I think he's taken the company in a direction not necessarily beneficial to gaming in order to be able to attain it.
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Miyamoto should be in charge, and I have a feeling he will be someday.Heirren

No, not ever! Business is not his greatest strength, he's better off making games.

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]Miyamoto should be in charge, and I have a feeling he will be someday.FireEmblem_Man

No, not ever! Business is not his greatest strength, he's better off making games.

But he knows what makes a successful game and I think he's been in the business long enough to understand how it works. Experience goes a long way.