Did Thief 4 ruined your hope for next Deus ex?

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#1 Posted by SNIPER4321 (10143 posts) -

So PPLS did new thief cause ruined of your anticipation of next deus ex?

to me its kinda. HR was great not as good as original and deus ex is best franchise atm but after new thief. im worried about new deus ex. they failed on theif. did good job with deus ex but will they do good job with new deus ex?

Discuss.

#2 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (6883 posts) -

Maybe. I don't know though, since I can't predict the future.

#3 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (8708 posts) -

Nope because it was developed by a different team within the same studio.

#4 Posted by charizard1605 (55955 posts) -

No, because it was an entirely different team.

#5 Posted by freedomfreak (39059 posts) -

Well, that takes care of this thread.

#6 Edited by texasgoldrush (9124 posts) -

So PPLS did new thief cause ruined of your anticipation of next deus ex?

to me its kinda. HR was great not as good as original and deus ex is best franchise atm but after new thief. im worried about new deus ex. they failed on theif. did good job with deus ex but will they do good job with new deus ex?

Discuss.

No, Human Revolution destroys the original in almost every facet of the game.

You are overrating the original.....the original has a great concept, but it has so many flaws in execution, even for its time.

#7 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3449 posts) -

Cause ruined.

Cause ruined.

#8 Posted by wis3boi (31102 posts) -

#9 Posted by LustForSoul (5842 posts) -

I never played the old thief games but I do know the new one was bad.

#10 Edited by lamprey263 (23088 posts) -

No, if anything it's inspired hope. Deus Ex HR wasn't that good, but with all the praise how would they know how to improve things without honest feedback. If anything a disappointing Thief run the risks of humbling them, letting them know to try harder.

#11 Posted by scoots9 (3193 posts) -

Thiaf and Human Revolution were made by different teams supposedly.

#12 Posted by DerekLoffin (8753 posts) -

If anything was to hurt my hopes for Deus Ex it would be Deux Ex: The Fall. And really, the original Deus Ex is GROSSLY overrated. It had some great ideas, but pretty much every system in the game was weak or downright terrible in execution, even for the time it was released.

#13 Posted by texasgoldrush (9124 posts) -

No, if anything it's inspired hope. Deus Ex HR wasn't that good, but with all the praise how would they know how to improve things without honest feedback. If anything a disappointing Thief run the risks of humbling them, letting them know to try harder.

HR is what the original deus ex should have been.

#14 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (13366 posts) -
#15 Edited by texasgoldrush (9124 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

Is that Fredrick Andersen? Jonas Hiller? Was it this year?

My Ducks better not be saying this right now, they just lost first place.

#16 Edited by hrt_rulz01 (5750 posts) -

Nope because it was developed by a different team within the same studio.

Yeah this... I'm assuming the same team that made Human Revolution will make the next one, so I'm not worried.

#17 Posted by thehig1 (1353 posts) -

Human Revolution was fantastic, I really enjoyed it and have played it several times.

I think they new Thief was not up to standard but didn't care, they kept the areas small and linear to save on time and cost.

Thief to the games industry is what Robocop 2014 is to the movie industry, a reboot that only exists to make money of the original

#18 Edited by mariokart64fan (19377 posts) -

are we talkin about thief on ps4 if so ya that game is heck -boring, so easy to beat thus far , ive played through 4 levels already

#19 Posted by freedomfreak (39059 posts) -
@wis3boi said:

*video*

Okay, that line has been stuck in my head for 3 HOURS NOW.

#20 Edited by ArisShadows (22615 posts) -
#21 Edited by marcheegsr (2513 posts) -

@wis3boi said:

Most interesting thing in this thread.

#22 Edited by dethtrain (384 posts) -

Nope because it was developed by a different team within the same studio.

This. I believe Thief 4 and Deus Ex: HR were done concurrently. Just 2 different teams. If they can take the best from both teams and focus on 1 title at a time, they can really make some beautiful games. Eidos Montreal has some real talent behind it. I can't say that for most other old/big studios

#23 Posted by killatwill15 (845 posts) -

weird, I thought human revolution looked like garbage,

yet thief 4 appeals to me.

i can only discern once i play both

#24 Posted by wis3boi (31102 posts) -

Glad I could salvage this thread into something worth reading

#25 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3449 posts) -

Love that video.

#26 Posted by cfisher2833 (1570 posts) -

No. Thief wasn't made by the same team that did Human Revolution. Eidos Montreal is a very big studio. I actually just got done playing through Deus Ex with that New Vision mod, and I have to say, Human Revolution really was an amazing sequel. Eidos Montreal did an amazing job at recapturing what made the first game in the series so great, while also getting rid of some of the more annoying elements from the original.

#27 Posted by uninspiredcup (7779 posts) -

Nope.

#28 Edited by foxhound_fox (87620 posts) -

I haven't played the new Thief, nor do I want to after hearing how shitty it is.

#29 Posted by glez13 (8663 posts) -

I haven't played the new Thief, nor do I want to after hearing how shitty it is.

This. I was mildly interested to begin with, will only touch if gifted or super cheap sale.

#30 Posted by Icarian (1473 posts) -

Is that Fredrick Andersen? Jonas Hiller? Was it this year?

My Ducks better not be saying this right now, they just lost first place.

He is the one and only Ilya Bryzgalov.

#31 Posted by texasgoldrush (9124 posts) -

@Icarian said:

@texasgoldrush said:

Is that Fredrick Andersen? Jonas Hiller? Was it this year?

My Ducks better not be saying this right now, they just lost first place.

He is the one and only Ilya Bryzgalov.

Yeah, I figured it out....

No wonder why he bounces around teams.....

#32 Posted by adamosmaki (9447 posts) -

No because

1. different dev team

2. The new thied was actually quite good ( not as good as DX HR but much better than the 6 most sites gave it )

#33 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16294 posts) -

@SNIPER4321: Hey SNIPER, could you please check out Deus Ex: The Fall. It's the hardcore Deus Ex game you have been waiting 4 (see how leet I wrote that, that's because the game is just that hardcore)

@wis3boi said:

Brilliant

#34 Posted by lundy86_4 (42978 posts) -

No. DIfferent teams. HR was very good. I have yet to play Thief.

#35 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16294 posts) -

weird, I thought human revolution looked like garbage,

yet thief 4 appeals to me.

i can only discern once i play both

Jump on the SW bandwagon and judge games without playing them.

it saves you lots of cash !!!!

"I haven't played but Thief is shit"

"I haven't played but Titanfall is a COD clone"

#36 Posted by killatwill15 (845 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@killatwill15 said:

weird, I thought human revolution looked like garbage,

yet thief 4 appeals to me.

i can only discern once i play both

Jump on the SW bandwagon and judge games without playing them.

it saves you lots of cash !!!!

"I haven't played but Thief is shit"

"I haven't played but Titanfall is a COD clone"

no it was the initial demo of human revolution, were they detailed where you could go,

how many path branches, but each of em were immediately obvious and stuck out of the map like a sore thumb,

it irked me that they made it so noticeable as opposed to people having to think it through.

I haven't said I wont play it,

but what I had seen of it so far has been a disappointment,

I am going to get it one day,

since futuristic aesthetics appeal to me immensely.

#37 Edited by fend_oblivion (6113 posts) -

Human Revolution is a fantastic game. Everything from the color palette to the music was great.

Thief, however, is an extremely boring game. HR had decent size hubs that allowed you to move from one place to another with zero loading times. But Thief has its loading times masked by a QTE where you have to pry open windows. I don't know about you guys but when I'm trying to explore what is supposed to be a sandbox world, I do not like loading times when I'm moving around in the game. Placing a QTE on it is insult to injury.

#38 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16294 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@killatwill15 said:

weird, I thought human revolution looked like garbage,

yet thief 4 appeals to me.

i can only discern once i play both

Jump on the SW bandwagon and judge games without playing them.

it saves you lots of cash !!!!

"I haven't played but Thief is shit"

"I haven't played but Titanfall is a COD clone"

no it was the initial demo of human revolution, were they detailed where you could go,

how many path branches, but each of em were immediately obvious and stuck out of the map like a sore thumb,

it irked me that they made it so noticeable as opposed to people having to think it through.

I haven't said I wont play it,

but what I had seen of it so far has been a disappointment,

I am going to get it one day,

since futuristic aesthetics appeal to me immensely.

You misunderstood what I said.

You said 'i can only discern once i play both' which I applaud. Many people here on SW just judge without playing, and you don't :)

#39 Posted by AcidTango (529 posts) -

Who really knows what the new DE will be like but DE:HR and the recent Thief were made from other teams.

#40 Posted by AdamPA1006 (6417 posts) -

DEHR was awesome, Thief being bad and made by a different team doesnt concern me. Mobile crap (now on PC) like The Fall are more concerning

#41 Posted by BattleSpectre (5963 posts) -

Not really mang.