Did the 360 fall? What was the biggest mistake microsoft made?

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#51 Posted by Phreek300 (236 posts) -
There are a few that come to mind. 1. The RROD debacle. 2. Going the Wii route with Kinect. 3. Charging more for Xbox Live with ads. With that I still enjoy my 360 from time to time. I actually have been playing co-op Resident Evil 6 with my friends. Thats the only way the game is enjoyable.
#52 Posted by The_Game21x (26342 posts) -

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I just love how delusional Cows have gotten these days. :lol:

A+ entertainment they're delivering. For free! :)

kuraimen

It is pretty pathetic to say the least... how do i get to make up my own facts and pretend that theyre real?

Not as pathetic as lems trying to end the gen ASAP :lol:

The PS3/360/Wii are no longer "current gen" consoles now that the Wii U has launched. 360 fans didn't make that up, that's how it's always been.

Deal With It

#53 Posted by TheEroica (14501 posts) -
  • Going casual
  • Using the DVD
  • Using a non-upgradeable hard drive
  • Stupid battery design for the controller
  • Xbox Live fees
  • Awful dashboard UI
GamerwillzPS
Sony tried to go casual and failed... so obviously hate ms. Dvd had zero effect on the industry and is just a stupid point. Ms offered several different hd offerings, though they were mighty pricey.. although adding a 32gb stick is pretty nice. Id MUCH prefer having batteries charging when i game rather than have to plug my controller in across the room... another stupid point. Xbl fees = 4 bucks a month. Get over it. Thank you ms for giving us a nice fresh coat of paint and a feature rich dashboard every year... the ps3 and wii feel archaic by comparison
#54 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
[QUOTE="Zeviander"]It more than doubled it's userbase from the original Xbox. I think Microsoft succeeded. Their choice to cheap out on parts and use adhesive instead of solder was a bad one, but they saved themselves quite well.

more than lost half of it's first party support too from original xbox.
#55 Posted by TheEroica (14501 posts) -
[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I just love how delusional Cows have gotten these days. :lol:

A+ entertainment they're delivering. For free! :)

kuraimen
It is pretty pathetic to say the least... how do i get to make up my own facts and pretend that theyre real?

Not as pathetic as lems trying to end the gen ASAP :lol:

Cows dont worry about sales though kuri so why do u care when the gen is over?
#56 Posted by Eddie-Vedder (7805 posts) -
  • Biggest Failure rate in the History of the Industry
  • Terrible Hardware
  • Old junk Disc Tray that scratches discs
  • Outdated DvD format
  • Forced and failed the Format War rendering HD DvD a useless paperweight
  • Paid online fee's, the biggest rip off scam in the history of mainstream gaming
  • Raising Live fee's
  • Constant nickel and dime mentality
  • Ads all over a paid service
  • Controllers run on batteries
  • Overpriced Proprietary Acessories
  • Focus on Timed Exclusive contracts instead of exclusive games
  • Leaving Core gamers behind and going casual
  • Kinect Focus
  • Second half of the generation almost no games released apart from multiplats/kinect/arcade games

Now that I think about it the 360 really did fail hard this gen. As soon as the PS3 released it was all downhill for the 360.

#57 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
No more mech assault? A game that sold a million copies?
#59 Posted by ccagracing (819 posts) -

I dont think they made many mistakes bar the rrod and to be fair they introduced the 3 year warranty to cover it. They trebled the amount of consoles they sold from the previous generation, made a sizeable profit and made xbox live a known/brand name outside the gaming community. In my opinion the 360 should now be £99 for the 4GB model and £139.99 for the 250GB model. I would have liked to see more new quality IPs from Microsoft to be honest but to even remotely claim the 360 was a failure is, well failure itself.

If they announce the new Console at CES 2013, promote at E3 2013 for launch next November/December I think they have a great chance to win next generation.

#60 Posted by FPSfan1985 (2174 posts) -
There biggest mistake is easily the RROd stuff. Outside of that however the 360 has been great for pushing the xbox brand. The xbox brand is huge not only in gaming but in all media entertainment right now.
#61 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
original xbox will always own xbox360. it had so many new ip's trying to establish a franchise.
#62 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
about only new ip for 360 first party published was gears of war. Compared to like 30 new ips on original xbox.
#63 Posted by The_Game21x (26342 posts) -

Oh Eddie and his tryhard ways. :lol:

So adorable.

On topic: Of course the 360 didn't fail. It nearly tripled its predecessor's install base, has the best games library on a console in terms of quality and quantity, has created the best console online gaming service that Sony and Nintendo are still playing catch up to and has made the Xbox brand a household name.

Fanboys will try as hard as they can to paint the 360 as a failure but anyone in the real world can see through their delusional ramblings.

#64 Posted by GunSmith1_basic (9891 posts) -

There biggest mistake is easily the RROd stuff. Outside of that however the 360 has been great for pushing the xbox brand. The xbox brand is huge not only in gaming but in all media entertainment right now. FPSfan1985
yup. If it werent for rrod ms would be fighting for first place instead of second. The 360 was synonymous with poor quality for years

#65 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
bloodwake mech assault halo fable amped brute force all new ips on original xbox
#66 Posted by FPSfan1985 (2174 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"]about only new ip for 360 first party published was gears of war. Compared to like 30 new ips on original xbox.

Gears isn't first party...
#68 Posted by FPSfan1985 (2174 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"]bloodwake mech assault halo fable amped brute force all new ips on original xbox

It's obvious by how well 360 games sell that most people don't care about new IPs. They just want more of the same.
#69 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="checkoff"]bloodwake mech assault halo fable amped brute force all new ips on original xbox

It's obvious by how well 360 games sell that most people don't care about new IPs. They just want more of the same.

which is why 360 is boring compared to original xbox.
#70 Posted by FPSfan1985 (2174 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="checkoff"]about only new ip for 360 first party published was gears of war. Compared to like 30 new ips on original xbox.

Gears isn't first party...

gears of war is published by microsoft it's considered first party.

No, it's considered 2nd party. Like the original Halos.
#71 Posted by Badosh (12741 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"] gears of war is published by microsoft it's considered first party.

Third Party Exclusive, nope.
#72 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] Gears isn't first party...

gears of war is published by microsoft it's considered first party.

No, it's considered 2nd party. Like the original Halos.

second party is game not published by the console maker.
#73 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] gears of war is published by microsoft it's considered first party.

Third Party Exclusive, nope.

any game published by microsoft will not be on another console it's considered first party.
#74 Posted by FPSfan1985 (2174 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="checkoff"]bloodwake mech assault halo fable amped brute force all new ips on original xbox

It's obvious by how well 360 games sell that most people don't care about new IPs. They just want more of the same.

which is why 360 is boring compared to original xbox.

As long as a I get my Halo and Gears fix I really couldn't care less about a new IP. Out of all the new IPs released by Sony the only one I care even a little about is Uncharted. I'm a firm believer in if it ain't broke don't fix it. And MS's current lineup don't need fixing.
#76 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] It's obvious by how well 360 games sell that most people don't care about new IPs. They just want more of the same.

which is why 360 is boring compared to original xbox.

As long as a I get my Halo and Gears fix I really couldn't care less about a new IP. Out of all the new IPs released by Sony the only one I care even a little about is Uncharted. I'm a firm believer in if it ain't broke don't fix it. And MS's current lineup don't need fixing.

i bought halo in 2001 it's boring
#77 Posted by Badosh (12741 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"] any game published by microsoft will not be on another console it's considered first party.

No, it's not. First Party means they are owned by Microsoft.
#78 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] any game published by microsoft will not be on another console it's considered first party.

No, it's not. First Party means they are owned by Microsoft.

If the games published by microsoft they own the ip.
#79 Posted by FPSfan1985 (2174 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] gears of war is published by microsoft it's considered first party.

Third Party Exclusive, nope.

any game published by microsoft will not be on another console it's considered first party.

No it really isn't. It would be considered a 2nd party product. 1st party products are not only published, but also developed by MS or a MS owned studio.
#81 Posted by Badosh (12741 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"] If the games published by microsoft they own the ip.

MS does not own the Gears IP, so that's not true.
#82 Posted by FPSfan1985 (2174 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="checkoff"] which is why 360 is boring compared to original xbox.

As long as a I get my Halo and Gears fix I really couldn't care less about a new IP. Out of all the new IPs released by Sony the only one I care even a little about is Uncharted. I'm a firm believer in if it ain't broke don't fix it. And MS's current lineup don't need fixing.

i bought halo in 2001 it's boring

Sucks to be you then.
#83 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
all that matters any game published by microsoft or sony doesnt matter if they own the developer or not it wont be on the other console.
#84 Posted by superclocked (5863 posts) -
It's considered 2nd party. Like the original Halos.FPSfan1985
lol, you do realize that Microsoft bought Bungie before the original XBox was released, right?
#85 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] If the games published by microsoft they own the ip.

MS does not own the Gears IP, so that's not true.

lol then why isnt epicgames bringing it to ps3
#86 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
microsoft published more games last generation meaning those franchises will never be on another console.
#87 Posted by Badosh (12741 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"] lol then why isnt epicgames bringing it to ps3

Microsoft is giving them tons of money. Stop
#88 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

These threads are getting annoying.

#89 Posted by clone01 (25332 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] If the games published by microsoft they own the ip.

MS does not own the Gears IP, so that's not true.

lol then why isnt epicgames bringing it to ps3

Because MS pays them money for exclusivity. But Epic owns the Gears IP http://www.vg247.com/2010/03/15/rein-epic-owns-gears-ip-can-do-what-we-want-with-it/
#90 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="checkoff"][QUOTE="Badosh"] Third Party Exclusive, nope.

any game published by microsoft will not be on another console it's considered first party.

No it really isn't. It would be considered a 2nd party product. 1st party products are not only published, but also developed by MS or a MS owned studio.

resistance fall of man developer insomniac isnt owned by sony but they published that game it will never be on 360. it's considered part of first party.
#91 Posted by NineTailedGoku (1977 posts) -

[QUOTE="PressXtoJump"]

It started this gen in 1st place (lems count it when other systems arent out yet), to 2nd, to last.

What was its biggest mistake?

StormyJoe

Xbox sales: 24 million

360 sales 70+ million

Yes, the 360 failed...:roll:

By that logic, the Dreamcast was a success seeing that it sold more than the Saturn. I like how Lems try to use previous gens to make PS3 look b@d and make 360 look good.To determine a consoles success you have to look at its games, infulenece, and sales milestone. The truth is both PS3 and 360 are a success.As you can see with the Wii,1st place is very overrated and doesnt make your console any better. No console has ever got by on its name alone, so bringing up the past Playstations to downplay PS3s successful comeback is bad damage control considering PS3 came later with more obstacles.

#94 Posted by Badosh (12741 posts) -
insomniac has yet to make 360 game yet lol they're part of second party now.checkoff
They have a game coming out for 360 next year.
#95 Posted by Bruce_Benzing (1731 posts) -

[QUOTE="StormyJoe"]

[QUOTE="PressXtoJump"]

It started this gen in 1st place (lems count it when other systems arent out yet), to 2nd, to last.

What was its biggest mistake?

NineTailedGoku

Xbox sales: 24 million

360 sales 70+ million

Yes, the 360 failed...:roll:

By that logic, the Dreamcast was a success seeing that it sold more than the Saturn. I like how Lems try to use previous gens to make PS3 look b@d and make 360 look good.To determine a consoles success you have to look at its games, infulenece, and sales milestone. The truth is both PS3 and 360 are a success.As you can see with the Wii,1st place is very overrated and doesnt make your console any better. No console has ever got by on its name alone, so bringing up the past Playstations to downplay PS3s successful comeback is bad damage control considering PS3 came later with more obstacles.

The Dreamcast was a success, trouble was it wasn't enough for Sega to pull out of the rut that they created for themselves beginning with the end of the 16 bit era and with the Saturn...

#97 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
the more games published by sony or microsoft will help them have more exclusive franchises.
#98 Posted by Badosh (12741 posts) -
[QUOTE="checkoff"] yea but right now they're still second party

No, they are developing a third party game, so they're third party.
#99 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="checkoff"] yea but right now they're still second party

No, they are developing a third party game, so they're third party.

its not released yet.
#100 Posted by checkoff (71 posts) -
name me one game published by sony on xbox or vice versa.