DF - We'll take 60fps/900p over 1080p given the choice

Digital Foundry has been the source of fanboy ownage for years now.

Regarding Diablo 3 on Xbox One:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-diablo-3-xbox-one-1080p-patch-performance-analysis

"we now see frame-rates drop from the locked 60fps seen at 900p to the low 50s"

"But for a game of Diablo 3's action-focused design - and having played both iterations - we would probably take the locked 60fps at 900p over the less consistent 1080p, given the choice."

As of late it seems as if gamers and the industry are at a crossroads. 1080p has been a buzzword that has rustled the jimmies of many fanboys this generation. Is 1080p really worth it? If you had to choose, would you pick framerate or resolution?

1080p is just a number. Right?

Bu bu but based Phil said frame rate is more important than resolution. What's going on???

Oh the horror seldom drops to 55 fps on the X1....... DF trying to hard?

Whatever SONY can do with the world's most powerful video game console is fine with me.

"We did find it challenging early on to get it to 1080p. That's why we made the decision to drop to 900. That's what we demoed and were showing around E3 time. And Microsoft was just like, 'This is unacceptable. You need to figure out a way to get a better resolution.' So we worked with them directly, they gave us a code update to let us get to full 1080p."

Too fucking funny!!

He must be a lemming

55 fps........ This is unacceptable!!

Click bait DF...../idiots

@GoldenElementXL: 1080p is overrated. Look how good The Order and Ryse look - they are not 1080p.

TLOU re-mastered looking the way it does "OLD" drops lower than 55 fps.... A last gen game.

EDIT: Diablo 3 is less demanding though.

Lawl. 900p.

When you're looking for compromise, look no farther than the Xbox One.

Maybe next generation Microsoft will invest in a decent GPU instead of trying to cash on outdated waggle technology.

You seen the graphical fidelity and the linearity as trade offs?

PT looks better than all the shit out there right now and that's because it's only rendering one corridor. At 1080p more than likely, but even so.

I'd prefer a smooth framerate over visuals, but it's 2014. 1080/60 should be standard.

So it remains best on PC? Meh I wouldn't want to play it on fumblesticks anyways. Especially not Greater Rifts 30+, unless they tuned them to be easier on Consoles, which is likely.

I'd take eye candy and 1080p any day over 60fps.

LULZ.

I game at 1440p. Gaming at 900p would be laughable to me. I'm surprised Diablo can't game at 1080p at 60fps because I was just playing Starcraft II at 1440p at over 75fps.

Is this what console gaming is like? Or is this a fate that other PC gamers have to endure as well?

Yup, Sony is ruining gaming this gen. putting such a high emphasis on unimportant things because fanboys with feeble minds eat it up, SO now devs will be forced to make crappier games that meet certain numbers. If sony was for the gamers they would have said what MS did, which was we'll leave it up to the devs to decide whats best, instead of the sony mantra of we need to brag about how big our Ps are

If given the choice I'd rather keep 1080P and 60FPS and just lower the graphical settings.

PC master race inferiority complex with both consoles

Both sides have used their share of buzzwords. Microsoft does have "The Cloud." But Sony seemed to strike gold with "8GB GDDR5" and "native 1080p." The strange thing is the fanboys don't seem too upset when Sony's buzzwords dont ring true. The system only uses 4.5 GB of the ram for games and not all titles are native 1080p. But the circle jerk continues.

To be fair though it doesn't help Microsofts case when the games are sub 1080p AND sub 60 fps.

@Heil68: have you any idea how sad that sounds.

Not having both at once

#JustPeasantThings

atleast the framerate,by god.

its 2014,60fps locked should be standard.

*52 fps.

Lol your buthurt, how's it clickbait?

I agree with that.

Just the low 50s? Isn't that better than PS4 version still? Very surprising if it is.

WAIT A MINUTE!

Phil LIED???

How is this possible?!?!?¬?!?!

Hahaha another lem playing the victim.

That got fixed IIRC. Have to wait and see if it's totally resolved though.

Oooo, forgot they said it was a glitch. Wonder if it was fixed.

Downloaded D3 on my Smartglass app while at work. Should be ready to go when I get home.

@Heil68: Whatever SONY can do with the world's most powerful video game console is fine with me.

Yeah but you're a Manticore, not all will see it that way.

Well yeah. Performance is better.

\People get too caught up on resolution.

I am okay with either. I still love and play my PS1 games. I think I can handle whatever the PS4 (not interested in any other console) throws at me.

Meanwhile on pc...

That I play games that a dev puts out and I dont pass on games because of resolution or FPS? K.

I run Diablo 3 at 1080p/120fps. Consoles aren't even physically capable of this since they are limited to HDMI. Even if the details were turned down enough they still couldn't physically run 120fps at that resolution over HDMI, and at any rate, I don't know of a single display that will even accept 120hz over HDMI anyway.

Not really a comparison I like to draw against consoles though since most PC gamers are playing at 60hz anyway.

Diablo 3 is an old cross gen game on PCPS360. It's not really taking full advantage of the PS4/Xbone.

"In short, while Blizzard closes the gap between Xbox One and PlayStation 4 in terms of image quality, there are now performance issues that creep in at the game's extremes while at 1080p. They're not game-breaking, and many players may not even notice - but it's clear that a 44 per cent boost to resolution doesn't come for free: in the same scenarios, the 900p version proved smoother.

All of which opens up an interesting debate on frame-rate versus pixel-count. Hight's comments at Gamescom last week, along with reports that Microsoft sent engineers to Bungie to aid in pushing Destiny to 1080p, suggest that the platform holder is keen on reducing resolution differences in multi-platform games where possible. But if frame-rate takes a hit as a consequence, is this necessarily the best course of action?"

"Diablo 3 running at 900p on Xbox One may not boast the same, granular level of sharpness as its PS4 counterpart, but the difference is very subtle. It's a difficult one to call given that the patched Xbox One frame-rate dips don't make Diablo 3 any less enjoyable either. But for a game of Diablo 3's action-focused design - and having played both iterations - we would probably take the locked 60fps at 900p over the less consistent 1080p, given the choice."

It sounds like while Blizzard got the 1080p up on Xbone, they made sacrifices in other areas to achieve the goal on Xbone, but it's very slight and negligible as this is an old ported game. Still, getting the resolution up is not free as most of us should know. It's going to impact performance in other ways.

As I've said countless times before, I'm far more interested in true next gen only titles that PUSH the graphic envelop like Batman Arkham Knight, Witcher 3, GeoW4, Uncharted 4, The Order, and Halo 5 for instance.

Those future next gen only game breakdowns will be more interesting to read than looking at old, cross gen ported games like Diablo 3, Destiny, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Forza Horizons, Watch Dogs, Metro Redux, etc.

1080p60 should be standard, but i prefer 1080p at stable 30fps over 720/900p60.

black bars?

@GrenadeLauncher: I saw a ton of aliasing in the P.T. Demo. It looked quite good, don't get me wrong but there were definitely jaggies. Particularly around the window by the phone.

For reference I have a 1080p Samsung 60" F8500. I sit about 15 feet away from the tv. So the tv resolution and size shouldn't be the issue.

Lots of fools are obsessed with the order and cannot get over its black bars. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

what fucking black bars are you talking about? i know when I play a ps2 game on an hdtv I get back bars on the sides which don't bother me because at least the screen isn't stretched out.

Cool to know but gaming under 1080p in 2014 is just,,,,,,, going full r*tard. I'd take 1080p with fps drops from 60 to something like 45 over anything 900p or lower.

Smooth gameplay any day. Was playing Starfox 64 the other day and that game is not only 320x240 but is also better than any game on ps4, xone, and pc.

I really don't see how a dip to 50fps is that big of a deal.