DF Running Damage control for the XBO again.

So after gamespot article about resolution don't matter crap just a few days latter guess who show up with an article similar.?

Yeah Eurogamer.

It all makes for fascinating reading. In an era where the relevancy of the specialist press is under scrutiny, we find that coverage of the resolution issue not just made it into the general public's consciousness - but also defined buying intentions, to the point where it was stillconsidered an issue a whole year after the release of the current-gen consoles. Obviously this is our own personal interpretation, but our take on it is that resolution became a way of quantifying the technological capabilities of PlayStation 4 and Xbox One - a relatable metric, if you like. We're not sure if 'console A is more powerful than console B' was one of Nielsen's 30 reasons, but resolution is a parameter by which the differing power levels of the machines can be addressed, and was certainly the way the specialist press - ourselves included - went about it.

In some ways it's a grim state of affairs - especially for Microsoft - because as 2014 progressed, resolution as a meaningful, differentiating issue of the gameplay experience between multi-platform titles became less important. The amount of visually compromised 720p/792p titles appearing on Xbox One dwindled as the year progressed, while the 900p/1080p differential turned out to be much less pronounced than the raw maths suggested. Indeed, as the major titles rolled out in Q4, we saw resolution parity in key titles such as GTA 5, FIFA 15, Destiny and Assassin's Creed Unity. On other tentpole games like Far Cry 4 and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, PS4 maintained a resolution advantage, but raw pixel count wasn't the most crucial element of image quality (though it played much more of a role in the multiplayer portion of COD).

What's crucial in this case is that not only are both COD and Far Cry 4's res reductions well-handled on Xbox One, they also have performance profiles equivalent to or even better than their PS4 counterparts - and we're firmly of the belief that frame-rate difficulties have much more of an impact on the overall experience than resolution.

"The industry status quo is to push ultra-high display resolution, ultra-high texture resolution, and ultra sharpness. In my opinion, a more interesting next-generation metric is, can an engine on an ultra high-end PC rendering at 720p look as real as a DVD quality movie?"

It's not impossible. In fact, it's happening. With titles like 2013's Ryse on Xbox One and the more recent efforts of Ready at Dawn with PlayStation 4's The Order: 1886, we have working examples of a similar kind of approach. These titles are both a clear evolution visually, and the good news is that they didn't need to drop down to DVD quality or even 720p. The Order uses around 74 per cent of the raw resolution found in a native 1080p framebuffer (using a 2.4:1 aspect ratio to avoid upscaling) while Ryse achieves its excellent visual results with just 69 per cent of a full HD pixel count. There's a strong argument that both of these titles represent the pinnacle of the visual arts on each of the current-gen console systems, despite the resolution trade-off.

What you're seeing below is compressed video of course, but image quality on Xbox One holds up, as you can also see in our previous coverage. By far the biggest difference between the two streams comes down to performance, not image quality. Xbox One not only runs at a slower frame-rate, but its imagery is delivered in an inconsistent manner, resulting in further judder. However, Crytek's approach to filmic, more realistic rendering produces the most compelling evidence yet that it's not the amount of pixels you're rendering that matters, but rather what you do with them.

There's still a long way to go. In the greater scheme of things, it's still early days in the current console generation, and while progress in the visual arts has moved on significantly since Xbox One and PS4 launched, mitigating the resolution difference has mostly come about through improved scaling on Xbox One and heavier post-processing effect pipelines on certain titles. We've seen some promising results, but we're not out of the woods yet. Battlefield Hardline launches later this month with a 720p Xbox One resolution and unimpressive image quality as a result, while we suspect we'll see the same situation with Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain later on in the year, if the Fox Engine titles released to date are any indication.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-does-resolution-really-matter

This is by far one of the worse examples of damage control ever for a freaking weak platforms,all this article in its complete form is dedicated to do nothing but damage control the xbox one getting the short end of the stick resolution wise.

A site which for years have dedicated to find even the smallest resolution differences now say resolution doesn't matter and tries to downplay it. Casualty.? Not at all since the article is made taking into notice the latest survey from Nielsen's.

Not only this site which in other instances has refer to a 1080p vs 900p difference as a massive difference now want to pretend is nothing,worse is Richard Leadbetter the one who call the difference between 1080p on PC and 900p on PS4 massive.

The results are clear enough. The 270/270X mostly delivers the 1080p60 experience we crave, but under stress both cards fall behind the PS4 performance. Bearing in mind that the AMD cards are still delivering a massive 44 per cent boost in resolution over the PS4 game

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-the-next-gen-digital-foundry-pc

Not this is the same Richard Leadbetter which when is 1080p vs 900p or even worse 720p vs 1080p downplays it for PS4,but when is PC versus PS4 or the xbox one winning a few frames is a massive blow.

What he describe is what consoles have done for year,the Xenos on xbox 360 was capable of 1080p and most games were sub 720p because developers traded resolution for visuals it has always been like that on consoles always,just like frames are given up to for the same reason visuals basically any game can run at 60FPS on xbox 360,but quality would be compromise.

Ryse and The Order are also example of ultra linear not much to do cramped gameplay,they can't deliver those kind of visuals on a Open world like GTA,so even the mild consideration that games should imitate those 2 games is a joke.

And that last part in bold you can taste the tears DF just damage control the next battlefield been 720p on xbox one,how the fu** do they know that is it based on the beta,or they were told in advance than BF on xbox one again would be 720p.?

Then he damage control the even further MGS5 which we know its engine has problem on xbox one,do to be heavily deferred.

Trying to change the public opinion on something like resolution is a joke,if you don't care for it play your games in 480p and get 200FPS with ultra blur image,the original xbox had higher resolution than the PS2,the xbox 360 mostly had games with higher resolution in multiplatforms,and is when the xbox one get the short end of the stick that resolution doesn't matter.

Tell that to Hermit playing in 1440p or 4k,hell why buy 4k,stay in 720p for ever because well the whole industry most mover around the weakest link.

I wonder what Hermits think about this article as i already know how lemming will claim it doesn't matter.

Wow, talk about overreacting and damage control. Holy shit you've gone off the deep end tomatoes, way off.

Why are you upset?

For an xbox apologist like your self probably..

Go to GA and see how poster are making fun of Richard left and right..hahaha

I am not this is how i always post...hahaha..

Why aren't you debating that resolution doesn't matter is a better question.

u maaaad u maaaaaad

I'm not an Xbox apologist where do you keep getting this shit from, starting to get slightly irritating having a fanboy making shit up and telling lies about me constantly, grow up.

What's a GA and why should i give a shit?, your overreaction to this very benign article is just absurd, i'll be honest i didn't even read your whole post because i nearly slapped myself silly facepalming after your first paragraph.

@tormentos: Because this should have become apparent when the Playstations best looking game/movie isn't in 1080p. You think that was an accident?

@Snugenz: If you don't praise Playstation 400 times a day and receive Kaz as your lord and savoir then you're an xbox apologist according to El Tomato.

This is a good day. Tormentoes getting feed the very crap he praises the PS4 for.

The only Damage Control being done here is you @tormentos. Stay mad and delusional.

Pipe down Tomatoes, no conspiracy nonsense necessary here.

Leadbutter's an odd egg, yes- quesitoning the relevance of the site he writes for again; other DF authors keep things objective and factual.

This is what happens when you play resolution instead of playing games. The side effects are butthurt, nausea, and delusion.

Thank god, I just play games on my Ps4, XB1 and Wii U and not give a shit about any of this stuff.

Everyone is wrong. Only Tormentos is right.

Opened with an instant MELDOWN WOW!

Think you need a break maybe a holiday.

Gamespot proved most people cant tell the difference and DF is half agreeing with them by show the two best looking games so far The Order and Ryse don't run a full 1080p display yet look arguable the best games out there.

No need for meltdown damage control. I don't read it as having a go at the ps4 in general, pc is involved in this topic too and it also gets confused with other platforms proving that some cant really tell a difference.

Public opinion or the opinion of a group of enthusiasts? They aren't the same. I can't even say it's the core gamers opinion, because there's still a huge selection of gamers who play a lot but care less about the resolution then the enthusiasts past a certain standard. I'm not saying they should use your ridiculous extreme examples of 'well go **** yourself and play at 480p and 20fps'. But I don't think they really care about the difference between 1080p upscaling and native. Last gen everyone was happy gaming with upscaled graphics. Have you tried to say this stuff to someone outside of SWs? They kind of shrug and look at you funny.

Honestly in my opinion, I think I'd chose to sacrifice some of that resolution to get higher framerates in games. I'd rather let upscaling pick up the slack and not play everything at 30fps.

Also you can't claim to want to have an open discussion but brand people who disagree with you as "apologists" and "lemmings". Do you really want to talk about this or just make a point? If it's the latter then it's just a blog isn't it.

You grow first and stop trolling my thread,then i will.

The game isn't 1080 because at 2.40:1 ratio you need a resolution far bigger than 1080p to fill the screen dude.

Also the PS4 uses MSAA x4 which isn't a simple performance free process.

At least The order isn't upscale and its performance is solid unlike Ryse,but both Ryse and the Order are example of heavily enclosed games were you can almost go no where,you can see a city you can't barely explorer,they have great graphics because they are build like a fighting game,which impact a small area by having great graphics,in games like GTA the PS4 or xbox one can't deliver those kinds of visual Ryse or The order has.

Look at how great Tekken 5 looked on PS2 it looked like a damn xbox game,that is what happen when you target a small area and put all of your resources on a single area.

no you have a soft spot for the xbox one and is undeniable.

So much that you are attacking me here instead of been a TRUE hermit and calling this article shit,after all the crap you have pull about PC having higher resolution than consoles,.

@deadline-zero0 said:

Now ill say this once last time i make a thread it was close by a mod because you people didn't stop attacking me and trolling,he also warned poster who were making attacks on my thread about been ban if you have nothing to say just get the fu** out and troll else where.

Now i say this to you because well you have defend the xbox one countless time,but when then hide on PC pretending to be a Hermit,if you don't have anything to add don't post and stop ruining the thread.

Is incredible that several hermit are already on my thread and they focus on attacking me and not attack this article,but is ok since most hermits here are wannabe Hermit like you,in the end who need 4k when 640p is more than enough upscale...

Again, da fuq did i just read?

Will continue to bump this and ensure Tornametoes completes a full cycle of meltdowns.

"Bu, but it was bad code on Resident Evil!!!!" - Tormentos De La Cajones

"bu, but I could always tell the difference between 720p and 792p!!!!!" - Tormentos

Wow, never seen a topic created with a meltdown.

Soony should put black bars on all their games to ensure cinematic greatness.

So Leadbetter is basically saying that his job doesn't matter, he didn't think things through. His apologism is making him impulsively irrational.

@tormentos: I agree here ...

2 gens ago ... Xbox was a beast and this and that

Last gen was ... X360 superiority over most ( not all ) platforms and how better it is with minor technical differences on most games

This gen ... Who cares for lighting , shadows , resolutions ... lol ... Its so pathetic ... I would love to know how much MS paying for those articles ...

Hahaha damn man i am spot on,on this thread not a single poster have argue about the article it self and even so call ""Hermits"" are ignoring what this article claims.

Yeah resolution doesn't matter THIS GEN...hahahaa

On PS2 on it matter on the PS3 one when the 360 had the upper hand in most multiplatforms it did,suddenly this one it doesn't..lol

Ryse and the Order are 2 of the most enclosed games not only this gen from all gens since 3D took over.

If you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p you have a problem one is certainly sharper.

Now 900p vs 1080p is a closer gap.

Not surprising coming from a fake hermit..lol

Maybe if you lower you PC resolution to 720p you will be able to read it better..hahaha

There is no meltdown i always write in this same stile is stupid to pretend other wise..

Again not a single poster have argue the actual merits of this thread and all i see if attacks after attacks..

hahahaa

It's a Tomato thread.

Exactly and the fun part is that MS is desperately trying to change the notion of the xbox one been weaker,killing reservations,unlocking the 7 core even in broken state,anything that help the notion that the game has been close,meanwhile BF again will be 720p on xbox one,and probably MGS5 to,and the Witcher would probably face a resolution difference.

Is like lemming don't get the PS4 is porting higher resolution than the xbox one because it can,but if by any change developer instead of searching for 1080p lock both version at 900p in most games the PS4 will own the xbox one visual and frame wise because irrelevant of the PS4 not using 1080p the resources are there if they don't to go higher IQ or frames or both.

As we go deeper into the gen and sony drop the 1080p shit i am sure both consoles getting the same resolution will result in the xbox one been even further behind,they may argue that they can't tell resolution,but more effects,better IQ and faster frames are easy to see,alto we have some blind fanboys as well who claim can't see the difference from 30 to 60FPS either.

Damage control isn't needed at this point. No titles should be released at anything under 1080p, its f*cking 2015, come on now. This goes to ps4 and its 900p titles as well.

Geez man, wow, take it easy.

The article is just saying its better to have a game run at a lower resolution if it can't run 1080p efficiently on consoles basically. Which is true. high resolution is great...but a game functioning properly is what's really important.

But only in system wars is it about the competitiveness between the machines when it comes to this topic. These guys are talking about in general, in the real world.

On the PS2 it didn't matter because everything was at low resolutions. On the 360 and PS3 resolution mattered to a standard, but I don't think outside of system wars anyone actually cared about any differences between the 360 and PS3 and both were upscaling anyway a lot of the time.

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Also a general point to cows, who keep mentioning "true hermits" and "fake hermits". A hermit isn't someone who bangs on about hardware all the time, it's someone who chooses to game primarily on the PC. We bring up frame rates etc as a standard we have and it's what consoles often lack. We don't need to talk about that, but it seems important to console gamers here. I only have a decent GTX 750Ti, yet it allows me to play what I want at high plus settings on a single monitor and I'm happy. But my benefit is that in a year I can upgrade it, which is why I'm cool with its performance.

This term "fake hermit" seems like something used by cows because they are unhappy all gamers haven't automatically fallen at Sony's feet this gen. Like anyone who decided to go PC gaming this gen is some glory hunting fake. So are the gamers who went from the Xbox 360 to the PS4 this gen glory hunting "fake cows"? Why is it okay for a gamer to jump ship to Playstation and not anywhere else? What is the criteria for deciding to jump ship to another platform exactly? Is there some sort of cult ritual to be done?

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@AzatiS said:

@tormentos: I agree here ...

2 gens ago ... Xbox was a beast and this and that

Last gen was ... X360 superiority over most ( not all ) platforms and how better it is with minor technical differences on most games

This gen ... Who cares for lighting , shadows , resolutions ... lol ... Its so pathetic ... I would love to know how much MS paying for those articles ...

Its a reality ... As tormentos saying MS trying so hard to say "" We are equal " to Ps4 ...

No that cant happen .. DX12 wont make things even ... A small boost to CPU speed wont do it either ... Removal of Kinect wont either ... Patching and more patching wont too...

In a year MS trying again and again to prove they are equals to PS4 ... That cant be nor will ever happen . So its up to developers and them alone if they want to take advantage of PS4s power or not ... 1080p >> 900p - 60fps >> 30fps etc etc ... Its not that magically X1 is on par with PS4 ..

Bottom line is ... why the hell to pay for the very same game the very same price to have the inferior version of it? Give me a single reason.

So ... MS trying to convince consumers thru pathetic claims ( Dx12-removal of kinect-patches etc ) that they are similar to a PS4 and they have paid ( or not ) some sites/editors or whatever to defend it.

Its for a reason why in every single GAMESPOT survey ( supposedly to make the site better ) there are question like " why you wont buy this " , " what do you think of X1 " , " Do you like X1 without kinect " ? How such questions making Gamespot site better is beyond me.

Conspiracy or not , we know all media or some media or few editors ( you name it ) are favoring one side over the other or even worse some out there ( im not pointing anyone ) got paid to take a side. Its common sense it happens everyday. So call it conspiracy , call it reality... It happens.

PS4 is better hardware , 1080p > 900p and 60fps > 30fps let alone higher graphical settings overs >> lower ones. Its common sense and i dont care if some people dont care or are blind enough to accept it. I value my money , every single penny of em and my money will go to the better product / version / best hardware / value overall product. Thats PS4 console speaking. period

Resolution has never been as important as you Cows are making out this gen, Hell, last gen when Games on the 360 where consistently higher resolutions all you cows said Resolution didn't matter

'Trying to change the public opinion on something like resolution'

they are not trying to change public opinion on anything simply because the general public don't actually give a **** about game resolutions in the real world, the only people that care about that shit are people who visit board like this.

dude, you need to get the idea out of your head that System wars is somehow a reflection of the wider world, it isn't.

You need to Sort your head out mate, you see demons and Conspiracy theories every time some one ventures forward an opinion that you don't like.

Bottom line, just because you don't like there opinion doesn't mean there is a conspiracy or they are wrong or they are damage controlling.

You are just Paranoid and you need to get help or at least a very good quality Tin foil hat to make yourself feel better.

@AzatiS said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@AzatiS said:

@tormentos: I agree here ...

2 gens ago ... Xbox was a beast and this and that

Last gen was ... X360 superiority over most ( not all ) platforms and how better it is with minor technical differences on most games

This gen ... Who cares for lighting , shadows , resolutions ... lol ... Its so pathetic ... I would love to know how much MS paying for those articles ...

Its a reality ... As tormentos saying MS trying so hard to say "" We are equal " to Ps4 ...

No that cant happen .. DX12 wont make things even ... A small boost to CPU speed wont do it either ... Removal of Kinect wont either ... Patching and more patching wont too...

In a year MS trying again and again to prove they are equals to PS4 ... That cant be nor will ever happen . So its up to developers and them alone if they want to take advantage of PS4s power or not ... 1080p >> 900p - 60fps >> 30fps etc etc ... Its not that magically X1 is on par with PS4 ..

Bottom line is ... why the hell to pay for the very same game the very same price to have the inferior version of it? Give me a single reason.

So ... MS trying to convince consumers thru pathetic claims ( Dx12-removal of kinect-patches etc ) that they are similar to a PS4 and they have paid ( or not ) some sites/editors or whatever to defend it.

Its for a reason why in every single GAMESPOT survey ( supposedly to make the site better ) there are question like " why you wont buy this " , " what do you think of X1 " , " Do you like X1 without kinect " ? How such questions making Gamespot site better is beyond me.

Conspiracy or not , we know all media or some media or few editors ( you name it ) are favoring one side over the other or even worse some out there ( im not pointing anyone ) got paid to take a side. Its common sense it happens everyday. So call it conspiracy , call it reality... It happens.

Inferior version? You mean you are one of those that goes by what Digital Foundry tells you? A machine needs to point out that this games frames dropped or this game is running such and such in the background? There is no such thing as a inferior version when a machine needs to point out the differences in most cases. Still the game isn't broken if it isn't the best version. So your comment is stupid by saying a game at the same price for a lesser version. There is no noticeable differences like I said. Sure you can argue grass in GTAV but I can come back and say that the PS4 stutters in CPU heavy games. Both have their advantages and weak points. None should make one version cost different.

Also stop talking about DX12. You have no idea what it will do as do others.

Ps4 hasn't won every face off. So don't act like they clean house with dat 50% more powa.

I know about paid media. I see it happen everyday. My response was what I get when I try to point out the obvious to others.

@AzatiS said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@AzatiS said:

@tormentos: I agree here ...

2 gens ago ... Xbox was a beast and this and that

Last gen was ... X360 superiority over most ( not all ) platforms and how better it is with minor technical differences on most games

This gen ... Who cares for lighting , shadows , resolutions ... lol ... Its so pathetic ... I would love to know how much MS paying for those articles ...

Its a reality ... As tormentos saying MS trying so hard to say "" We are equal " to Ps4 ...

No that cant happen .. DX12 wont make things even ... A small boost to CPU speed wont do it either ... Removal of Kinect wont either ... Patching and more patching wont too...

In a year MS trying again and again to prove they are equals to PS4 ... That cant be nor will ever happen . So its up to developers and them alone if they want to take advantage of PS4s power or not ... 1080p >> 900p - 60fps >> 30fps etc etc ... Its not that magically X1 is on par with PS4 ..

Bottom line is ... why the hell to pay for the very same game the very same price to have the inferior version of it? Give me a single reason.

So ... MS trying to convince consumers thru pathetic claims ( Dx12-removal of kinect-patches etc ) that they are similar to a PS4 and they have paid ( or not ) some sites/editors or whatever to defend it.

Its for a reason why in every single GAMESPOT survey ( supposedly to make the site better ) there are question like " why you wont buy this " , " what do you think of X1 " , " Do you like X1 without kinect " ? How such questions making Gamespot site better is beyond me.

Conspiracy or not , we know all media or some media or few editors ( you name it ) are favoring one side over the other or even worse some out there ( im not pointing anyone ) got paid to take a side. Its common sense it happens everyday. So call it conspiracy , call it reality... It happens.

PS4 is better hardware , 1080p > 900p and 60fps > 30fps let alone higher graphical settings overs >> lower ones. Its common sense and i dont care if some people dont care or are blind enough to accept it. I value my money , every single penny of em and my money will go to the better product / version / best hardware / value overall product. Thats PS4 console speaking. period

This post is just a jumble of unproven, baseless assumptions mate

Assumptions are the mother of all **** ups mate

'we know all media or some media or few editors ( you name it ) are favoring one side over the other or even worse some out there ( im not pointing anyone ) got paid to take a side.'

You don't 'KNOW' jack mate, wheres you evidence?

'I value my money , every single penny of em and my money will go to the better product / version / best hardware / value overall product. Thats PS4 console speaking. period'

WRONG, when it comes to Actual Exclusive games the Ps4 is dead last mate and games are THE most important Factor when it comes to Determining which console has the most bang for your buck and BETTER product is subjective opinion, i think the Wii-U's a better product than the PS4 cos it's cheaper and it has more high rated Exclusives than the PS4.

'Bottom line is ... why the hell to pay for the very same game the very same price to have the inferior version of it? Give me a single reason.'

To play with friends who only have that system or because you only own that system so you don't have a choice, there are plenty of reasons mate even if they don't make much sense, stupid question to ask because 'I want to' is just as valid a reason as any other.

'So ... MS trying to convince consumers thru pathetic claims ( Dx12-removal of kinect-patches etc ) that they are similar to a PS4 and they have paid ( or not ) some sites/editors or whatever to defend it.'

Oh look, the somebody paid somebody Assumption, Pathetic, you have no proof anybody paid anyone, just another Lame baseless assumption to add to the rest of the Bullshit assumptions in your post.

Can you provide anything remotely Credible or are you just going to dribble on with your Baseless conspiracy Theories and unfounded conjecture?

@tormentos: Tormentos running damage control to mask how pathetic the PS4 has been so far.

resolutions do not matter when you have a small crappy TV.

@tormentos Hang on! Aren't you the guy that's been defending The Order's low resolution? So it's ok to use a low res on PS4 but not on Xbox One? The Order's low resolution is even mentioned in the article you posted.

Make your mind up man, either it's ok (The Order on PS4) or it's not (Ryse on Xbox). You can't defend and attack the same practice depending on your agenda or who is doing it.

Hahahahahaha, my god, new low for tormentos

only on system wars people claim meltdown and conspiracy with the evidence right there in front of their face.

Time to pick yourself up Tormy. Dust yourself off. Pick that cow shit out of your teeth. Fire up Resogun and call it a day.

And here comes the lems berating the poster instead of discussing the subject at hand. I guess when you don't have an argument, are on the losing side you have to deflect. It's sad how many times Toremntos makes well made posts only to have lemmos bash him instead of try to refute what is said... what's even sadder is these same people were boasting and ridiculing ps3 last gen for the things that ps4 is trouncing xbone on. Hypocrites...

And here come the cows calling anyone who doesn't fellate Sony a lem and defending one of the most ridiculous fanboys on the site.

There's nothing to refute in a tomatoes thread. The only thing any reasonable poster can do is be amazed at how stupid and fanboyish his posts and his supporters are.

Do one.

Hahahaha

First of all im not a cow , i dont even own a PS4 let alone a PS3. Im talking facts and those alone.

Your hypocrisy is that last gen few technical differences on multis did matter ... then all of a sudden resolutions/fps along with technical differences in graphics in many occasions dont.

Not only dont matter by your logic but are also irrelevant.

Explain me then why last gen it did matter when the gap was way tinier in graphic department and now is irrelevant or not as important to have even bigger gap than last gen ? Thats hypocrisy at its finnest.

Ill tell you why ... because now you are with the losers side. Thats the difference between you and me. I was one of the hardest and most harsh critics to PS3. You on the other hand ... you insist to hypocritically defend X1 and make resolutions/fps and graphical fidelity being a small matter when in the end of the day ... thats all you were laughing about for 8-9 straight years last gen ( way lesser graphical and performance difference to be exact )

This is not opinion , this is fact. I was here and in every big video gaming site around net and i know exactly what im talking about.

So if that makes me paranoid , so be it. But ill never be a blind fanboy let alone an hypocrite.

PS: And if you think media overall never get paid to favor a side over the other ( from politics , to brands , to trends , you name it ) then you living in a cave.

The Gamespot video was interesting, and I think that is a better gauge of differences than something like DF which is a bunch of graphs, blown up sections of images and pixel counting.

It happens in the audio world all the time audiophiles denounce iTunes AAC files as garbage and a stain on music quality, but whenever people actually do blind test they mostly fail vs cd quality and high res.

There is a difference between Xbone and PS4 games but the differences are exaggerated, and you will mostly need that side by side set up to tell. No one does that at home, so really same with last gen too with the PS3 vs 360 the differences are majorly overblown.

There are a lot of other factors I would take into consideration before I even begin thinking about performance differences.

A turd at 1080p is still a turd, tormentoes.

@AzatiS:

My thoughts exactly. The lemmings made this resolution war a reality last gen when it was only a few 5-10 pixels different. Apperently when they were on the winning team last gen that mattered. Now they are on the loosing side and its in the magnitude of 1000s of pixels difference... it all the sudden is "irrelevant" sure...lol Hypocrisy. the ones who aren't being hypocrites are the lems who switched to ps4 this gen, and didn't stick with ms. I don't know how MS had any supporters after their reveal and e3. 180ing aside, they stated their vision.... they didn't respect their consumers, yet hard core brand loyalists didn't care.

As for the media.. the media loves to bash sony just as much as the lems... Last gen was proof of that alone.

oh pfoey

he posted 2 links of DF.

One says resolution doesn't matter, that differences are small. On the second link they compare a tiny res gap saying that it is massive. On top of it, we had an entire gen worth of superior x360 multiplats but when it was Sony on the winning end all of a sudden none of it matters. After nearly 10 years of graphical comparisons now it doesn't matter.

There's definitely a case here. But that you're a butthurt fanboy with persecutory delusions of evil cows chasing you out, that's another issue.