DF Interviews Playground Games; Find out why Forza is "best-in-class."

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#1 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43223 posts) -

THREAD UPDATE:

The Making of Forza Horizon, Digital Founry Interviews the engineers and technical director of Forza Horizon.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-the-making-of-forza-horizon

"It has given us a great new lease of life to focus on a single-platform game; we can be a lot more aggressive and the freedom is refreshing. We found we can extract a lot more performance from the Xbox 360 and still feel like we could do more."


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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-forza-horizon

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Some important excerpts;

"Playground Games didn't take the obvious safe route and simply iterate on the existing formula using the established engine: instead the fledgling developer took that technology, retained its core attributes and then expanded upon them, taking the whole franchise in a new direction."

"The existing Forza engine is no slouch here - the image-based lighting of Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (a technique that "wraps" the environment around the cars) was impressive running at 30Hz, but it becomes a thing of beauty at twice the frame-rate. Gamma correct HDR is also implemented, ensuring that detail stands out in all lighting conditions."

"In an era where game developers are killing off the memory and bandwidth-intensive MSAA in favour of the much cheaper post-process equivalents, Playground's solution is comparatively lavish. Not only is 4x MSAA retained - in line with the replays and time trials of Forza Motorsport 4 - FXAA is added too."

"Somehow, Horizon manages to maintain its exceptional standards with a level of consistency we rarely see in modern gaming."

"A few minutes in the company of Forza Horizon makes you realise that this isn't strictly true: most console games target 30FPS - Playground's debut offering is remarkable in that it actually hits that target without fail, transforming the experience. We've been conditioned to accept that frame-drops and screen-tear are necessary evils: in this respect, Forza Horizon is refreshingly compromise-free."

"The overall look and feel of the game is almost untouchable, with an extremely high standard of production values applied to almost every visual element - everything meshes together beautifully, making for a best-in-class presentation."


Some pretty positive remarks for Forza Horizon's technical standing; I'm surprised they polished it so incredibly well even after going from 60Hz to 30Hz and considering it's a whole new developer working on this--granted in their defense, they were hardly run of the mill. Well done, Playground.

#2 Posted by Z-Fatalis (1058 posts) -

Arcade racer, no thanks.

#3 Posted by tagyhag (15867 posts) -
It looks great, but 30fps smh.
#4 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43223 posts) -

"But make no mistake - this is very much the "custom thoroughbred" described by Oli in the 9/10 Eurogamer review, a release where the developers hand over the simulation and difficulty controls to the player and actively invite them to make the game as arcade-like or as authentic as they wish. Out of the box, Horizon is as mainstream and as inviting as it could possibly be and to be frank, while it's immense fun, it's not particularly challenging. But for the purists, all the Forza engine DNA is still there - assists can be tweaked to taste and difficulty level of the opponents can be shifted on a race-by-race basis. Fittingly for a series built upon a foundation of customisation, it's a game that demands to be tuned to taste."

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#5 Posted by PhazonBlazer (11990 posts) -

Arcade racer, no thanks.

Z-Fatalis

So what do you call Little Big Planet Karting?

#6 Posted by The_Game21x (26342 posts) -

Huh...I guess that makes Forza Horizon the new console graphics king. :D

A label I wouldn't have a problem applying since Forza Horizon is absolutely gorgeous in every respect.

#7 Posted by carlisledavid79 (10503 posts) -
Best looking Forza hands down
#8 Posted by JohnnyCageMK (4365 posts) -
Yeah the game is amazing. I didn't expect it to turn out as great as it did.
#9 Posted by Rocker6 (13358 posts) -

I can hear them... roaring in the distance...

#10 Posted by DarthClark (458 posts) -

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Arcade racer, no thanks.

PhazonBlazer

So what do you call Little Big Planet Karting?

Thats a pure sim racer in cow land.
#11 Posted by JohnnyCageMK (4365 posts) -

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Arcade racer, no thanks.

PhazonBlazer

So what do you call Little Big Planet Karting?

And why would any racing game fan limit themselves to only 1 kind lol. Cows have nothing to say anymore other than to claim they hate genres now.
#12 Posted by Blabadon (28272 posts) -
The tech behind this game really shows off.
#13 Posted by clone01 (25246 posts) -

Arcade racer, no thanks.

Z-Fatalis
Considering your sig, 0/10 trolling attempt. Keep practicing, though, you'll get better.
#14 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43223 posts) -

Huh...I guess that makes Forza Horizon the new console graphics king. :D

A label I wouldn't have a problem applying since Forza Horizon is absolutely gorgeous in every respect.

The_Game21x
No such thing as a console graphics king, silly game. Forza is "best in class" though.
#15 Posted by JohnnyCageMK (4365 posts) -
MS should go ahead and buy Playground Games and hand them the PGR or Rallisport series now that they have proven themselves.
#16 Posted by The_Game21x (26342 posts) -

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Huh...I guess that makes Forza Horizon the new console graphics king. :D

A label I wouldn't have a problem applying since Forza Horizon is absolutely gorgeous in every respect.

Stevo_the_gamer

No such thing as a console graphics king, silly game. Forza is "best in class" though.

Are you sure? I mean, Sony fanboys keep insisting there is so I decided to roll with it. :P

But yeah, Forza Horizon looks amazing. Easily the best looking racing game on a console in my opinion.

#17 Posted by Z-Fatalis (1058 posts) -

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Arcade racer, no thanks.

clone01

Considering your sig, 0/10 trolling attempt. Keep practicing, though, you'll get better.

What does that have anything to do with LBP Karting?

Arcade racers are not my thing.

Sim racers are.

Fun racing games that don't take themselves too seriously like Mario Kart, LBP Karting and Crash racing are.

I'm actually far from trolling.

#18 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43223 posts) -

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Arcade racer, no thanks.

clone01

Considering your sig, 0/10 trolling attempt. Keep practicing, though, you'll get better.

I doubt that.

#19 Posted by JohnnyCageMK (4365 posts) -

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Arcade racer, no thanks.

Z-Fatalis

Considering your sig, 0/10 trolling attempt. Keep practicing, though, you'll get better.

What does that have anything to do with LBP Karting?

Arcade racers are not my thing.

Sim racers are.

Fun racing games that don't take themselves too seriously like Mario Kart, LBP Karting and Crash racing are.

I'm actually far from trolling.

So you hate Motorstorm right?
#20 Posted by Z-Fatalis (1058 posts) -

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Arcade racer, no thanks.

Stevo_the_gamer

Considering your sig, 0/10 trolling attempt. Keep practicing, though, you'll get better.

I doubt that.

Again read into what you will, I'm expressing my opinion, but feel free to rage more cause I don't like your precious Horizon :)

#21 Posted by Z-Fatalis (1058 posts) -

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] Considering your sig, 0/10 trolling attempt. Keep practicing, though, you'll get better.JohnnyCageMK

What does that have anything to do with LBP Karting?

Arcade racers are not my thing.

Sim racers are.

Fun racing games that don't take themselves too seriously like Mario Kart, LBP Karting and Crash racing are.

I'm actually far from trolling.

So you hate Motorstorm right?

A. Motorstorm is an offroad racer, you can't put it in the same catagory as say, NFS, Burnout or Horizon

B. No, it's not really my thing

#22 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43223 posts) -

Are you sure? I mean, Sony fanboys keep insisting there is so I decided to roll with it. :P

But yeah, Forza Horizon looks amazing. Easily the best looking racing game on a console in my opinion.

The_Game21x

Sony fans insist on a lot of things, it's best to normally ignore their drivel. :P

#23 Posted by RR360DD (13033 posts) -
Ouch, more salt to rub in the cows' wounds
#24 Posted by GhettoBlastin92 (1231 posts) -

Arcade racer, no thanks.

Z-Fatalis
LOL self ownage.
#25 Posted by idill23 (1135 posts) -
Yeah the game is amazing. I didn't expect it to turn out as great as it did.JohnnyCageMK
same here.
#26 Posted by GhettoBlastin92 (1231 posts) -

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

What does that have anything to do with LBP Karting?

Arcade racers are not my thing.

Sim racers are.

Fun racing games that don't take themselves too seriously like Mario Kart, LBP Karting and Crash racing are.

I'm actually far from trolling.

Z-Fatalis

So you hate Motorstorm right?

A. Motorstorm is an offroad racer, you can't put it in the same catagory as say, NFS, Burnout or Horizon

B. No, it's not really my thing

Motorstorm is an arcade racing game in an offroad setting.
#27 Posted by Z-Fatalis (1058 posts) -

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Arcade racer, no thanks.

GhettoBlastin92

LOL self ownage.

sigh, an Illiterate

#28 Posted by Blabadon (28272 posts) -
[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] So you hate Motorstorm right?GhettoBlastin92

A. Motorstorm is an offroad racer, you can't put it in the same catagory as say, NFS, Burnout or Horizon

B. No, it's not really my thing

Motorstorm is an arcade racing game in an offroad setting.

It's also fricking great, although I only got far in the PSP one.
#29 Posted by Z-Fatalis (1058 posts) -

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] So you hate Motorstorm right?GhettoBlastin92

A. Motorstorm is an offroad racer, you can't put it in the same catagory as say, NFS, Burnout or Horizon

B. No, it's not really my thing

Motorstorm is an arcade racing game in an offroad setting.

So would you put Wipeout in the same category as them too? you know considering "it's an arcade racer"

#30 Posted by DarthClark (458 posts) -

[QUOTE="GhettoBlastin92"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Arcade racer, no thanks.

Z-Fatalis

LOL self ownage.

sigh, an Illiterate

lol, god youre getting embarrassed in this thread.
#31 Posted by GhettoBlastin92 (1231 posts) -

[QUOTE="GhettoBlastin92"][QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

Arcade racer, no thanks.

Z-Fatalis

LOL self ownage.

sigh, an Illiterate

Sigh, a person who clearly has no idea what they are talking about. What you said in your original post was hilarious, considering your sig and avatar. Also Motorstorm can be placed with burnout.
#32 Posted by Z-Fatalis (1058 posts) -

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="GhettoBlastin92"]LOL self ownage. GhettoBlastin92

sigh, an Illiterate

Sigh, a person who clearly has no idea what they are talking about. What you said in your original post was hilarious, considering your sig and avatar. Also Motorstorm can be placed with burnout.

ok not Illiterate, just selective reading

#33 Posted by Z-Fatalis (1058 posts) -

[QUOTE="Z-Fatalis"]

[QUOTE="GhettoBlastin92"]LOL self ownage. DarthClark

sigh, an Illiterate

lol, god youre getting embarrassed in this thread.

By morons who can't read, like yourself it seems :lol:

#34 Posted by Jonwh18 (9350 posts) -
Lol at both lems and cows in this thread. To cows :lol: at you excepting LBP karting ad the 15 steps back it takes from mod nation racers. For a LBP game the sack boy creation tools are pathetic compared to MNR, also judging from the beta the track editor has taken the best parts of MNR and done away with them. As for lems praising FH :lol: at this. The is just a prettier version of burnout paradise with out the burnout magic. Criterion is the king of arcade racers with actual cars instead of karts. With criterion developing the new NFS, this game is going to be forgotten by all but lems super quick.
#35 Posted by JohnnyCageMK (4365 posts) -
[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]Lol at both lems and cows in this thread. To cows :lol: at you excepting LBP karting ad the 15 steps back it takes from mod nation racers. For a LBP game the sack boy creation tools are pathetic compared to MNR, also judging from the beta the track editor has taken the best parts of MNR and done away with them. As for lems praising FH :lol: at this. The is just a prettier version of burnout paradise with out the burnout magic. Criterion is the king of arcade racers with actual cars instead of karts. With criterion developing the new NFS, this game is going to be forgotten by all but lems super quick.

NFS is being sent out to die against AC3. Nobody cares about it.
#36 Posted by PAL360 (27263 posts) -

Another great looking game that 360 is not powerful enough to handle :(

Wait.... :o

#37 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43223 posts) -
Criterion is the king of arcade racers with actual cars instead of karts. With criterion developing the new NFS, this game is going to be forgotten by all but lems super quick. Jonwh18
That must explain why Codemasters keeps getting more nods over Criterion--oh wait. :]
#38 Posted by Z-Fatalis (1058 posts) -

Lol at both lems and cows in this thread. To cows :lol: at you excepting LBP karting ad the 15 steps back it takes from mod nation racers. For a LBP game the sack boy creation tools are pathetic compared to MNR, also judging from the beta the track editor has taken the best parts of MNR and done away with them. As for lems praising FH :lol: at this. The is just a prettier version of burnout paradise with out the burnout magic. Criterion is the king of arcade racers with actual cars instead of karts. With criterion developing the new NFS, this game is going to be forgotten by all but lems super quick. Jonwh18

You're laughing at cows/lems for praising a certain game, how ignorant is that?

#40 Posted by Jonwh18 (9350 posts) -
[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]Criterion is the king of arcade racers with actual cars instead of karts. With criterion developing the new NFS, this game is going to be forgotten by all but lems super quick. Stevo_the_gamer
That must explain why Codemasters keeps getting more nods over Criterion--oh wait. :]

code masters? Anyway back to ripping this game, people talk about Sony copying or Nintendo copying? Look at this! They copied almost everything right down to the radio announcer.
#41 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43223 posts) -
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"]Criterion is the king of arcade racers with actual cars instead of karts. With criterion developing the new NFS, this game is going to be forgotten by all but lems super quick. Jonwh18
That must explain why Codemasters keeps getting more nods over Criterion--oh wait. :]

code masters?

Is that a question? My statement is pretty clear.
#42 Posted by Blabadon (28272 posts) -
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"]Criterion is the king of arcade racers with actual cars instead of karts. With criterion developing the new NFS, this game is going to be forgotten by all but lems super quick. Jonwh18
That must explain why Codemasters keeps getting more nods over Criterion--oh wait. :]

code masters? Anyway back to ripping this game, people talk about Sony copying or Nintendo copying? Look at this! They copied almost everything right down to the radio announcer.

Except this game looks fun unlike Burnout Paradise. That was a terrible game.
#43 Posted by Chemical_Viking (2145 posts) -

It's great, looks amazing, really interesting concept, but get rid of that filthy rewind button. UGH.

#44 Posted by CanYouDiglt (7607 posts) -
A person should not win the same car more then once from multiplayer. I won that Ford 150 Raptor 4 times from online leveling, won it once for beating Romona and then gifted it once from Playground.
#45 Posted by DarthClark (458 posts) -
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"]Criterion is the king of arcade racers with actual cars instead of karts. With criterion developing the new NFS, this game is going to be forgotten by all but lems super quick. Jonwh18
That must explain why Codemasters keeps getting more nods over Criterion--oh wait. :]

code masters? Anyway back to ripping this game, people talk about Sony copying or Nintendo copying? Look at this! They copied almost everything right down to the radio announcer.

This game has really lit a fire inside you eh? Haters gon hat *shrugs*
#46 Posted by CanYouDiglt (7607 posts) -

It's great, looks amazing, really interesting concept, but get rid of that filthy rewind button. UGH.

Chemical_Viking
I do not see why they should get rid of something you do not have to use. Before the race turn it off and you will recieve more credits also. I have mine turned off but no reason not to have it in the game so others can not use it.
#49 Posted by Gue1 (11257 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]That must explain why Codemasters keeps getting more nods over Criterion--oh wait. :]DarthClark
code masters? Anyway back to ripping this game, people talk about Sony copying or Nintendo copying? Look at this! They copied almost everything right down to the radio announcer.

This game has really lit a fire inside you eh? Haters gon hat *shrugs*

make more pics, you were more funny with those as ispeakfact.

#50 Posted by Jonwh18 (9350 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]That must explain why Codemasters keeps getting more nods over Criterion--oh wait. :]Blabadon
code masters? Anyway back to ripping this game, people talk about Sony copying or Nintendo copying? Look at this! They copied almost everything right down to the radio announcer.

Except this game looks fun unlike Burnout Paradise. That was a terrible game.

well BP was editors choice and a 9.0. This? nope!