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#51 humanistpotato
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lol

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#53  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@scottpsfan14 said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

Gtx 980 can't play it at 1080p/60, which I doubt a lot, meanwhile cows can NOT play it at all. So whose dreams are crushed, those of hermits who have thousands of games to play, or cows that have no games to play. LMAO.

Cows are grasping at straws.

Oh shit no. You mean... cows can't play Ryse? Such a loss lol.

I know, right. It seems to continue bothering cows since one of them made this thread. It´s amazing how easily they get themselves in butthurt mood when they are missing out on a game, even a bad one.

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#54 HaloinventedFPS
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@7mdma: They also said Watch Dogs on PS4 looked the same as E3 2012, when everyone knows E3 2012 looked way better

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#55 clyde46
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Graphics threads are getting as bad as sales threads.

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#56 parkurtommo
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@Tighaman said:

@parkurtommo: its already working on the xbox one the cut scene uses SSAA

lol

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#58 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@clyde46 said:

Graphics threads are getting as bad as sales threads.

Or resolution threads.

But to be fair, console gamers aren't exactly swiming in high quality exclusives to talk about these days.

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#59 faizan_faizan
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@scottpsfan14 said:
@faizan_faizan said:

@scottpsfan14 said:
@faizan_faizan said:

@tormentos said:

and Ryse still has lower resolution than The order while lacking MSAAx4 which the order has.

I would argue that the SMAA 1Tx used in Ryse is leagues above 4x MSAA. I'm expecting RAD to come up with another AA solution that is working in conjunction with 4x MSAA, otherwise the game will be horribly aliased. But, yes. The Order will certainly look more sharper than Ryse.

Nope. 4x MSAA > SMAA. Infamous SS uses SMAA 2Tx and it does look good, but it's post processed while MSAA is actual antialiasing which is processed before the pixels are drawn to screen.

Its process is irrelevant when the end result is poor. There are comparisons out there that show how significantly better temporal SMAA is than MSAA.

Here is why SMAA is better than MSAA:

  • Shader/specular anti-aliasing
  • smoothening of alpha textures
  • More samples

I'm sure there's more to it, I can't list them all. Regarding the difference between SMAA 2Tx and 1Tx, I don't know a lot. But I do know that all ghosting issues were fixed with 1Tx. So, technically, 1Tx is better than 2Tx.

SMAA is amazing, really. I'd say that this is the main reason behind Infamous' clean as crystal image quality.

Yep. SMAA looks fantastic. AND it's performance cost is significantly lower than MSAA. Of course nothing beats TXAA I'd say, but SMAA is just far superior to say FXAA while not taking much more performance.

Yeah. I'm glad that it's being featured in all new PC multiplatform games.

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#61  Edited By Tighaman
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Its the benchmark on consoles and pc by the end of 2014 its still going to be the the best looking game on any system. If they had more than 11 months it wouldnt even been a contest. The most powerful console is the xbox one and it shows in the tech that it is using.

SSAA, 2k and 4k textures, GI, SMAATx1, Caustics, multiplayer, all in one game (ryse)

rayleigh scattering, GI,4xMSAA, Physical Based Rendering, open world multiplayer, all in one game(horizion2)

Xbox one is pushing the limits it take power to run these features

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#62 MlauTheDaft
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@faizan_faizan said:

From the article:

'Crytek says that the press build is not representative of the final build performance-wise, and pretty much the only exercise it prohibited on the build it released was benchmarking.'

And the 'very high' graphics option from this build is missing.

http://www.crytek.com/sites/default/files/wysiwyg/images/6afdcf032d148bceeb95d07b5caa3106.png

#rekt

If that's anything to go by, even low looks better than the Xbone version.

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#63  Edited By pyro1245
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@ps4hasnogames said:

hermits am cry.

your $3,000 rigs are worthless. might as well get an xbox one and actually have some fun games to play.

go start another petition while playing rock simulator and dreaming of a 5 year old Rockstar game to finally come out.

bums.

nice try but the xbone doesn't have any good games just like ps4hasnogames so real gamers have no choice but to play PC games, regardless of how awesome PCs are. I know it's hard to accept, go make a thread about how all PCs cost thousands of dollars, it'll make you feel better.

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#64  Edited By OhSnapitz
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@jhonMalcovich said:

Gtx 980 can't play it at 1080p/60, which I doubt a lot, meanwhile cows can NOT play it at all. So whose dreams are crushed, those of hermits who have thousands of games to play, or cows that have no games to play. LMAO.

Cows are grasping at straws.

Ryse: Son of Rome / Xbox One

THE GOOD
Wonderful visuals
Some fantastic vocal performances
THE BAD
Combat is shallow and repetitive
Lays the gore on so thick that a severed limb quickly becomes yawn-worthy
Often laughable script
Bland multiplayer modes
Tightly controlled paths stop you from exploring the beautiful scenery
4
POOR
Kill yourself!
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#65 Ben-Buja
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@kuu2 said:

X1 showing its a beast in the hands of competent developers.

Still don't understand why Hermits are begging for bad console games.

No one has ever asked for Ryse to be ported to PC -.-

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#66  Edited By OhSnapitz
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@jhonMalcovich said:

Gtx 980 can't play it at 1080p/60, which I doubt a lot, meanwhile cows can NOT play it at all. So whose dreams are crushed, those of hermits who have thousands of games to play, or cows that have no games to play. LMAO.

Cows are grasping at straws.

Ryse: Son of Rome / Xbox One

THE GOOD
Wonderful visuals
Some fantastic vocal performances
THE BAD
Combat is shallow and repetitive
Lays the gore on so thick that a severed limb quickly becomes yawn-worthy
Often laughable script
Bland multiplayer modes
Tightly controlled paths stop you from exploring the beautiful scenery
4
POOR
Kill yourself!
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#67  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@OhSnapitz said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Gtx 980 can't play it at 1080p/60, which I doubt a lot, meanwhile cows can NOT play it at all. So whose dreams are crushed, those of hermits who have thousands of games to play, or cows that have no games to play. LMAO.

Cows are grasping at straws.

Ryse: Son of Rome / Xbox One

THE GOOD
Wonderful visuals
Some fantastic vocal performances
THE BAD
Combat is shallow and repetitive
Lays the gore on so thick that a severed limb quickly becomes yawn-worthy
Often laughable script
Bland multiplayer modes
Tightly controlled paths stop you from exploring the beautiful scenery
4
POOR
Kill yourself!

Wow, another butthurt cow. The more butthurt you cows are, the more agresive you (cows) become. The same thing happened when Titanfall had skipped on PS4, you, cows, filled all SW with your buthurt threads. Why would I kill myself, PC has thousands of games to live for :D I will get Ryse from a bargin bin in the winter Steam sale for benchmark purposes, meanwhile poor cows will still have nothing to play.

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#68 tormentos
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@faizan_faizan said:

@tormentos said:

and Ryse still has lower resolution than The order while lacking MSAAx4 which the order has.

I would argue that the SMAA 1Tx used in Ryse is leagues above 4x MSAA. I'm expecting RAD to come up with another AA solution that is working in conjunction with 4x MSAA, otherwise the game will be horribly aliased. But, yes. The Order will certainly look more sharper than Ryse.

No is not even better let alone leagues better,but is good enough while not having the performance hit MSAA has,but doesn't deliver quite the same effect which is why some developers use it.

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#69 faizan_faizan
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@tormentos said:

@faizan_faizan said:

@tormentos said:

and Ryse still has lower resolution than The order while lacking MSAAx4 which the order has.

I would argue that the SMAA 1Tx used in Ryse is leagues above 4x MSAA. I'm expecting RAD to come up with another AA solution that is working in conjunction with 4x MSAA, otherwise the game will be horribly aliased. But, yes. The Order will certainly look more sharper than Ryse.

No is not even better let alone leagues better,but is good enough while not having the performance hit MSAA has,but doesn't deliver quite the same effect which is why some developers use it.

LOL? Do you have proof for that or?

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#70  Edited By OhSnapitz
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@jhonMalcovich said:

@OhSnapitz said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Gtx 980 can't play it at 1080p/60, which I doubt a lot, meanwhile cows can NOT play it at all. So whose dreams are crushed, those of hermits who have thousands of games to play, or cows that have no games to play. LMAO.

Cows are grasping at straws.

Ryse: Son of Rome / Xbox One

THE GOOD
Wonderful visuals
Some fantastic vocal performances
THE BAD
Combat is shallow and repetitive
Lays the gore on so thick that a severed limb quickly becomes yawn-worthy
Often laughable script
Bland multiplayer modes
Tightly controlled paths stop you from exploring the beautiful scenery
4
POOR
Kill yourself!

Wow, another butthurt cow. The more butthurt you cows are, the more agresive you (cows) become. The same thing happened when Titanfall had skipped on PS4, you, cows, filled all SW with your buthurt threads. Why would I kill myself, PC has thousands of games to live for :D I will get Ryse from a bargin bin in the winter Steam sale for benchmark purposes, meanwhile poor cows will still have nothing to play.

lol.. me a cow? lol (you must be new to the sw's)

btw, I'm a Demi-God.. mortal peasant.

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#71  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@OhSnapitz said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@OhSnapitz said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Gtx 980 can't play it at 1080p/60, which I doubt a lot, meanwhile cows can NOT play it at all. So whose dreams are crushed, those of hermits who have thousands of games to play, or cows that have no games to play. LMAO.

Cows are grasping at straws.

Ryse: Son of Rome / Xbox One

THE GOOD
Wonderful visuals
Some fantastic vocal performances
THE BAD
Combat is shallow and repetitive
Lays the gore on so thick that a severed limb quickly becomes yawn-worthy
Often laughable script
Bland multiplayer modes
Tightly controlled paths stop you from exploring the beautiful scenery
4
POOR
Kill yourself!

Wow, another butthurt cow. The more butthurt you cows are, the more agresive you (cows) become. The same thing happened when Titanfall had skipped on PS4, you, cows, filled all SW with your buthurt threads. Why would I kill myself, PC has thousands of games to live for :D I will get Ryse from a bargin bin in the winter Steam sale for benchmark purposes, meanwhile poor cows will still have nothing to play.

lol.. me a cow? lol (you must be new to the sw's)

btw, I'm a Demi-God.. mortal peasant.

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#72 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Cloud_imperium said:

Ryse was already best looking game on consoles . Now , with the enhancements and higher resolution, Super Sampling etc , it is even better . It was always better looking game than any Playstation 4 exclusive currently available . And now it is better than original Xbox version as well (let alone PS4 games) . Don't know what's the point of this thread .

I think Ryse looks good...but it's no Infamous.

Sorry.

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#73 BldgIrsh
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@mr_huggles_dog: Interesting insight. Should give infamous a credible reputable reward for best graphics then. Call it the "Huggles" reward.

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#74 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@bldgirsh: I see my opinion still makes you wet.

Thats good....very good.

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#75  Edited By BldgIrsh
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@bldgirsh: I see my opinion still makes you wet.

Thats good....very good.

The only thing that got me wet, due to tears of laughter, was your old avatar.

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#76  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@bldgirsh: Really...wet from laughter?

What a dumb comeback.

Still...it doesn't negate the fact that everytime I post you and lostrib have to chime in....it's good to know you guys hang on my every comment.

You're like little girls getting wet over a boy band.

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#77  Edited By silversix_
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wow this game looks insanely blurry on xbone. So even on low this looks better than x1 version? lolxbone.

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#78  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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So...

  • Pre-release copy
  • No drivers for the game
  • Port with no new settings
  • Running at a higher resolution
  • Running at twice the frame rate

... This is considered a fail?...

I don't think some of you guys here especially the TC know what and how performance scaling is.

For example to run a game on the same settings at a higher resolution and a higher frame rate would require you to have a GPU two to three times the power... Look below:

Ryse running at 1600x900 on a 7790 at 25-30FPS on X1... To get it to run on the same settings at 1920x1080 at 50-60FPS you would need basically a GTX 980.

This isn't fail... Its pretty much how scaling works, want to run the same game at twice the framerate?... You will need twice the power or more.

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#79  Edited By leandrro
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@7mdma said:

Didnt DF say Dead Rising 3 maxed on PC was the equivalent of X1? Because I've seen it on X1 and it looks way better running on my PC at max settings. I'll be taking DF's analysis with a pinch of salt.

they also said that 7770 can run constant 30fps "like the X1's version" but their own analisis back in december said X1 is 20-30fps mostly 20s

they are clearly trying to protect X1, they are doing it since early 2013 when they did a stupid comparison between 2 graphics cards and arguing that ps4 x1 gap would be minimal

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#80  Edited By leandrro
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@ps4hasnogames said:

hermits am cry.

your $3,000 rigs are worthless. might as well get an xbox one and actually have some fun games to play.

go start another petition while playing rock simulator and dreaming of a 5 year old Rockstar game to finally come out.

bums.

or you can buy a 300 dollar PC with a HD7770 and play it with superior performance

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#81  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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A port that the Xbox One run on low settings .... our dreams crushed.

These trolls are boring now.... can we ban wave the lot of them? everything is just an attempt to annoy.

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#82 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@leandrro said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

hermits am cry.

your $3,000 rigs are worthless. might as well get an xbox one and actually have some fun games to play.

go start another petition while playing rock simulator and dreaming of a 5 year old Rockstar game to finally come out.

bums.

or you can buy a 300 dollar PC with a HD7770 and play it with superior performance

Your $300 PC won't run anything at decent frames....don't lie.

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#83 leandrro
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@leandrro said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

hermits am cry.

your $3,000 rigs are worthless. might as well get an xbox one and actually have some fun games to play.

go start another petition while playing rock simulator and dreaming of a 5 year old Rockstar game to finally come out.

bums.

or you can buy a 300 dollar PC with a HD7770 and play it with superior performance

Your $300 PC won't run anything at decent frames....don't lie.

i agree, Xbox one 20fps is not decent, just like 7770's 30fps in Dead Rising 3

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#84  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@7mdma: Sure you will stay butthurt

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#85  Edited By Jankarcop
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A multiplat looking slightly better on PC with higher resolution and twice the FPS = PC owned.

I love how even when PC gets "owned" it still somehow involves how much PC is superior. God damn, only PC.

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#86 Jankarcop
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@MBirdy88 said:

A port that the Xbox One run on low settings .... our dreams crushed.

It only looks somewhat better, with double the fps and higher resolution. Only.

Christ they are really desperate this gen.

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#88 remiks00
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@leandrro said:

That upscaled 900p looks blurry as shit compared to native 1080p low settings.

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#89 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@leandrro said:

@mr_huggles_dog said:

@leandrro said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

hermits am cry.

your $3,000 rigs are worthless. might as well get an xbox one and actually have some fun games to play.

go start another petition while playing rock simulator and dreaming of a 5 year old Rockstar game to finally come out.

bums.

or you can buy a 300 dollar PC with a HD7770 and play it with superior performance

Your $300 PC won't run anything at decent frames....don't lie.

i agree, Xbox one 20fps is not decent, just like 7770's 30fps in Dead Rising 3

So are you saying you outright lied about a $300 PC being able to run games at good quality?

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#90 clyde46
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@mr_huggles_dog: I guess you missed his other threads where hermits ripped his $400 PC build apart.

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#91 miiiiv
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@leandrro said:

The shadows in xbone version look about as good as normal settings but overall it's much blurrier and there's no light reflections in the ground as well. It's strange that the xbone version is that much blurrier, it seem to be more than just lower resolution that differs.

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#92 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@clyde46 said:

@mr_huggles_dog: I guess you missed his other threads where hermits ripped his $400 PC build apart.

So was he being sarcastic?

I don't follow every person's moment like twitterers and facebookers.

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#93 killzowned24
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My god,what a blur fest!!!!

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#94 lostrib
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@clyde46 said:

@mr_huggles_dog: I guess you missed his other threads where hermits ripped his $400 PC build apart.

So was he being sarcastic?

I don't follow every person's moment like twitterers and facebookers.

No he's just full of shit

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#95 Jankarcop
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@killzowned24 said:

My god,what a blur fest!!!!

Bu bu hermits have been owned even though the DF article shows PC version looking better and running at twice the fps....

lol @m3dude1 is such a bad troll he makes PC look good while trolling.

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#96  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@Tighaman: Do you honestly believe the Shit you type?

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#97 Tighaman
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which part thats wrong? oh you still talking about resolution lol

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#99 deactivated-57d307c5efcda
Member since 2009 • 1302 Posts

Not surprised, unless the devs go back and actually improve poly counts, textures, effects will it look better. PC is only gonna get higher resolutions and higher FPS and thats only if the port is done well. I have Ryse on the X1, it's an ok game that was pretty, nothing about it is gonna make me want to rebuy it again on PC. Bioware and Bethesda games are really the only ones that I have repurchases again on PC after buying the console versions. Now I am looking forward to seeing how GTA V turns out. Especially because I have 2 MSI GTX 970's being delivered to me Tuesday.

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#100 CrownKingArthur
Member since 2013 • 5262 Posts

yes robocop is jesus. i read that somewhere.