Destiny is exactly the same on X1 and PS4 at launch

Then we talk about it then? I'm just stating what's happening currently and what I predict. 1080p on both consoles, comparable frame rates (give or take a few) is what I'm calling for the future.

I'm at work. It's a mistake.

I dislike your opinion also.

Your lot were calling that for the future six months ago, and you'll keep at it until the generation ends.

Uhm yeah, the future doesn't happen that quickly...6 months is no time for a console to change. I said at launch that in 1-2 years we would no longer have sub 1080p games. I stand by that.

The GPU is 50% more powerful. So what? 50% more powerful really isn't that much. Is a 2 year old computer worthless for gaming?

By Moore's law, CPU's transistors double every two years. While complexity is not 1:1 with "speed", it usually is close. So, if you buy a high end gaming PC, it's worthless after 2 years because it cannot run top end games? Of course not - and that's a 100% increase, not 50%.

The PS4 is more powerful. That is a fact, but the difference in performance is not that big of a deal.

Yeah i will be pissed whole gen at Xboner to hold Ps4 multiplat back to the low xboner standard..

I don't think the API is true anymore. But, since I have not written any game code with either one, I really have no idea.

Dat forced parity. Too bad Destiny isn't visually impressive at all or you lems would have had something to cling on to. It looks like a PS3/360 game upscaled to 1080p.

Yeah, Watch Dogs happens when consoles hold PC back. Sucks, don't it. PS4 gamers complaining about parity.

Forced parity.

As far as I'm concerned, they're letting down their PS4 customers.

so ps4 version will look like crap? not important since its a past gen game anyway

Microsoft is just going to hold the Sony console back massively this Gen! Sony have no chance of getting 3rd party games up to full spec on the console due to that clause Microsoft have taken out. 1st party is where it will be at and Destiny has awful graphics to be honest.

Is a game this bad looking really running at 30 fps on both next gen twins? Why...i'm sure they can do better.....

Yeah maybe you should wait till launch before claiming anything just saying.

This would be news if Bungie hadn't already said this nearly two months ago. Whatever, I'm downloading my Xbox One beta now....so that's all I care about.

No sense in making a claim one way or another now. The game will be here in a few weeks and we'll all know for sure.

But getting Xbone to 1080 doesn't mean the versions will now be identical. Their are a whole mess of factors that could go one way or another. Resolution is just one part of overall performance. Which is why I'd advise against putting your own skin on the line and just let the game speak for itself.

Sounds like forced grasping at straws. I think it would make sense because of new June SDK, I've seen the latest Destiny video on X1 (from IGN) that wasn't beta and it was already running in 1080p.

Now lets wait and see what they stripped out and how Xbones frame rate holds up ;)

I can safely say that the beta plays like butter on Xbox One. Not one bit of slowdown and it feels so fluid and precise with the Xbox One controller. I hope it retains that at 1080p because it plays absolutely perfect right now. Oh, and this game is going to be huge. The hype is real for once.

The gpu isn't 50% more powerful it has 50% more cu cores. The GPGPU has 4 dedicated cores that does not make it better or worse GPGPU is just offloading calculations. It is a more capable GPU. I just had issues with the wording of those statements...carry on.

lol dat lem delusion

And how is this possible when X1 has an 7790 inside , a really low end GPU while games betting better and better ? Can you tell me ?

The X1 VS PS4 argument goes in circles.

More capable? Maybe, but only if a dev wants to take the time to exploit what differences there may be. Multiplats will never show a significant difference between consoles that are basically equal in base power. You Sony fanboys act as if the separation between the PS4 and X1 is equal to that of the 360 and Wii and it is just not!! I don't understand why you all feel the need to beat this dead horse! OK, we get it, the PS4 is a little stronger than the X1. Congratulations on your choice, but I'm telling you right now, multiplats Like Destiny are never, ever going to favor the PS4 over the X1 to the point that it has a direct effect on the game itself!!! The differences will be negligible!!!

Isn't it cross-platform? It's forced parity. They're keeping it at 30 fps for balance.

Also people really don't realize the difference it makes. Upscaling to improve performance makes the game look worse. You'd need a direct comparison to notice, but you would notice if you were to play it native and then do a second play through upscaled. I played Metro Last Light with 0.5s SSAO to have constant 60 fps but I'm playing it again now in native 1080p and the difference is huge.

dem crushed blacks on xbone

Another butthurt lem , all that is

If you think even for a split of second that a 7790 GPU is anywhere near to 7850 and you calling that identical in practise you are one of the most blind fanboys around. Period.

@scottpsfan14:

where's sony's cloud? oh yeah, they don't have one. hahahaha!

the PS4 power is nothing to brag about at all, its not even that much stronger... It's like the only thing sony fans use to hate on xbox, worst part is, it's not even impressive.

Ahh...destiny the fake mmo. Less players and smaller maps than coop games on PC that aren't even classified as MMOs.

rofl.

This is a whole load of bullshit. Yeah, the Xbone is harder to code for than the PS4 is, but that is more than compensated through the army of top coders that 3rd parties use to get their games up to snuff on the Xbone. 3rd parties let their shittiest 3 coders do a shit portjob on the PS4 and rely on the PS4's brute strength to bulldoze through their unoptimized code.

Devs use every single optimization trick to get the Xbone running "acceptably". The Xbone is already hitting its peak. The PS4 has barely begun utilizing its full power. When a 3rd party like Kojima studios tries to atleast utilize PS4's full power, THEN you'll see big differences. 720p on Xbone vs 1080p on PS4. PS4 runs at stable 60 FPS while Xbone runs at 30-60 variable FPS. Xbone has vastly lower graphical settings.

Until 3rd parties stop their parity bullshit, you'll never see the true power gap between the two consoles, and that's what MS would rather want. They rather you think the Xbone isn't that much weaker than the PS4 when the two are generations apart in power. It's sad, but all the more reason to cheer that Xbox is failing. MS is a bad influence on the gaming industry and it's best they leave.

And I believe that companies should use their money carefully. How could you spend $3 billion and create a vastly inferior machine than someone who spent $5 million in R&D. It makes no sense.

A former AMD employee already told us that MS spent $3 billion on just the APU. The total project including all the marketing and review bribing probably cost over $10 billion.

Microsoft is crying about it. They expected to sell 500 million consoles. LOL... Even SONY wasn't this delusional at the start of last gen.

Pretty much.

It's like the difference between a mid-range PC gpu, and a slightly better than mid-range PC gpu.

In the grand scheme of things, over the course of the next 5-6 years this gen lasts, it's not even worth mentioning. We're not even done with the first year, and we can already see PS4 struggling to reach 1080p with high-end games.

Yeah that's a bold faced lie. When the Iron Banner opens up, the lights are missing from the pinnacle structure in the Xbox One version entirely.

Big differences.

hehe101 damage controlling as usual.

@softwaregeek said:

@scottpsfan14:

where's sony's cloud? oh yeah, they don't have one. hahahaha!

That ultra powerful cloud doing Titanfall's duff AI and nothing else.

Hahaha holy shit. Explain that, lemmings.

I knew something had to be compromised to achieve so called parity. Not massive differences, but differences none the less.

Whether they are or not....the OP doesn't have any stats that this is the case. Thread fail.