Dear Xbox owners: Help me understand

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#1 Posted by MiguelNoche (161 posts) -

I've been a Playstation owner for years. For whatever reason, Xbox has never really sold me on anything. What keeps the Xbox fan base? We have these incredibly popular games...God of War, the Uncharted series, Ratchet and Clank, The Last of Us, Infamous and I LOVED Heavy Rain - and now Beyond: Two Souls (and there are many other exclusives not mentioned) Not to mention an amazing Blu-ray player. So, what does Xbox have that I'm missing out on? Or, am I? I just don't understand this.

#2 Edited by TheKingIAm (985 posts) -

The 360 was popular due to it being cheaper, having all the multiplats, and being comparable to the ps3 in graphics. The original xbox was better IMO

#3 Posted by evildead6789 (6733 posts) -

Party chat (with 8 chatting), it really makes gaming a lot more sociable, i play fight night a lot and then we get with people in parties challenging each other or talking about life. I can't imagine gaming without party chat anymore, If this didn't existed I would probably not game that much anymore.

The playstation may have more exclusives of triple a titles, but the xbox released cheaper and had near flawless service (which wasn't the case with sony, it may be good now, but it wasn't like that in the past).

I also think the controller is a lot better than sony's.

Enough reason for me to choose the xbox360, allthough i have bought a ps3 recently for a move game 'the fight'. Paid 100$ used. Only use the ps3 for that move game (and blue ray). Don't forget xbox had some nice exclusives too, I know sony got more of them, but that's not enough to change me around, the ones I really like go multiplat anyway (like dark souls), I may have missed out on mgs4, but honestly the party chat and the controller are just too much fun. I already have the ps3 for a year, tried some games and went away.

This time around I'm probably not going to buy an xboxone, because of the mandatory kinect. But I'm not getting a ps4 either, I'm thinking the steambox and/or sticking with my pc and x360.

#4 Posted by clone01 (24087 posts) -

I've been a Playstation owner for years. For whatever reason, Xbox has never really sold me on anything. What keeps the Xbox fan base? We have these incredibly popular games...God of War, the Uncharted series, Ratchet and Clank, The Last of Us, Infamous and I LOVED Heavy Rain - and now Beyond: Two Souls (and there are many other exclusives not mentioned) Not to mention an amazing Blu-ray player. So, what does Xbox have that I'm missing out on? Or, am I? I just don't understand this.

Thean I guess its not for you. I like the games on it.

#5 Posted by Evo_nine (1559 posts) -

Titanfall!!!

and...Halo, GOW, Forza, dead rising, ryse etc.

Also, Kinect, better online and better controller.

This is all my opinion, but the games you just listed don't interest me whatsoever.

#6 Posted by Randolph (10325 posts) -

HALO: COMBAT EVOLVED. Then of course we got HALO 2: COMBAT EVOLVEDER. Which was naturally followed by HALO 3: COMBAT EVOLVEDEST and HALO 4: COMBAT HARDER. Xbone will get HALO 5: A GOOD DAY TO COMBAT EVOLVE. Which is more than enough reason to spend $500.

TSHBO, TCHBO, LAMLAMLAM!!!1

#7 Posted by CyberLips (1616 posts) -

I've been a Playstation owner for years. For whatever reason, Xbox has never really sold me on anything. What keeps the Xbox fan base? We have these incredibly popular games...God of War, the Uncharted series, Ratchet and Clank, The Last of Us, Infamous and I LOVED Heavy Rain - and now Beyond: Two Souls (and there are many other exclusives not mentioned) Not to mention an amazing Blu-ray player. So, what does Xbox have that I'm missing out on? Or, am I? I just don't understand this.

I was thinking the same thing. I guess it's not for everybody, personally i prefer the PlayStation family and i feel Xbox has nothing to offer me. :/

#8 Posted by kingoflife9 (1987 posts) -

better online. better controller. better shooters. the 360 was cheaper, and has better looking multiplats.

#9 Posted by Netret0120 (1863 posts) -

So xbox owners

With the PS4 being stronger and likely having better looking multiplats and being cheaper, Would you jump to Sony?

Analysts say the PS4 controller is better too so the only thing left is online which Sony has been catching up in

#10 Posted by Evo_nine (1559 posts) -

So xbox owners

With the PS4 being stronger and likely having better looking multiplats and being cheaper, Would you jump to Sony?

Analysts say the PS4 controller is better too so the only thing left is online which Sony has been catching up in

Their flagship title, killzone, doesn't have dedicated servers.

Microsoft has been investing billions on infrastructure....how much has sony invested again?

How exactly are they catching up?

#11 Posted by Caseytappy (2109 posts) -

So xbox owners

Analysts say the PS4 controller is better too so the only thing left is online which Sony has been catching up in

What do market analysts know about controllers ?

LOL

#12 Edited by megaspiderweb09 (3652 posts) -

@Netret0120 said:

So xbox owners

Analysts say the PS4 controller is better too so the only thing left is online which Sony has been catching up in

What do market analysts know about controllers ?

LOL

LOL That is actually legit humour, but give the lad a break shall we, everyone has one of those days where the words do not align. On topic TC, the reason Xbox was able to gather an install base was due to the factors other posters have mentioned, early launch, price point, online infrastructure etc etc etc. Also most of that was Playstations fault, Sony was very cocky and basicly handed Microsoft a large chunk of its market share and now people have embedded themselves into the Xbox camp so moving back to Sony became very difficult and Sony is like that ex girlfriend that is trying so hard to look good even though the relationship ended

#13 Edited by Mkavanaugh77 (20730 posts) -

@Evo_nine:

Youre talking out your ass, please quit talking out your ass.

stronger doesnt mean **** at all

So xbox owners

With the PS4 being stronger and likely having better looking multiplats and being cheaper, Would you jump to Sony?

Analysts say the PS4 controller is better too so the only thing left is online which Sony has been catching up in

Im gonna own both eventually because they both look like good systems. with great games for their system.

WHich Multiplats look better on the Ps4? many people say the 360 controller is better including me(fits in the hand better, more comfortable, trigger buttons are easier to use, feel better.), it fits in the. Ms has much better onine service for the xbox than sOny has for the Playstation period.

#14 Posted by sebbi11 (1190 posts) -

Xbox has better games, better online. I personally find linear single player games unrewarding, i like the social and competitive aspect of multiplayer. The only game i liked on my PS3 was Infamous, Infamous 2 however got boring real fast.

#15 Edited by Samus3D (1675 posts) -

The great upcoming exclusives

Killer InstinctCrimson Dragon

Fable Anniversary

#16 Posted by always_explicit (2582 posts) -

Xbox was superior on price point, online infrastructure and launch lineup. When i made my purchasing decision the playstation was very expensive, poor launch lineup and a poor online. Why would I have chosen a PS3.

The only time I have ever play my PS3 is when Naughty God release a decent game. Hence why I have over 50 xbox games and 7 playstation games.

#17 Posted by casharmy (6790 posts) -

Xbox was superior on price point, online infrastructure and launch lineup. When i made my purchasing decision the playstation was very expensive, poor launch lineup and a poor online. Why would I have chosen a PS3.

The only time I have ever play my PS3 is when Naughty God release a decent game. Hence why I have over 50 xbox games and 7 playstation games.

You have 50 games on xbox because you buy all your multiplatform games on xbox not because it has more high quality games by itself (exclusives) than PS3.

#18 Posted by kungfool69 (2573 posts) -

@casharmy said:

@always_explicit said:

Xbox was superior on price point, online infrastructure and launch lineup. When i made my purchasing decision the playstation was very expensive, poor launch lineup and a poor online. Why would I have chosen a PS3.

The only time I have ever play my PS3 is when Naughty God release a decent game. Hence why I have over 50 xbox games and 7 playstation games.

You have 50 games on xbox because you buy all your multiplatform games on xbox not because it has more high quality games by itself (exclusives) than PS3.

if people bought consoles based on high quality games.................WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE OWN NINTENDO CONSOLES???? take a top 10 games list from any legit every-machine gamer (ie not a one console only person, someone who owns them all) i guarantee more then a few will be nintendo games......

XBOX 360 brought high res games sooner then PS3 did with a better controller and a better experience IMO. AU launch of xbox 360 $598, PS3 $998 and a year later!i even bought the HD DVD addon too!! now i own over 70 xbox games since day 1 and only 9 PS3 games since the slim 120gb (needed a cheap blu ray player and wanted to catch some ps3 exclusives). Also IMO, sony games feel and play clunky compared to similar games on xbox. I have my XBOX ONE ready for pickup on day one, and before the PS4 gets released, my Wii U collection will surpass my PS3 collection.....

#19 Edited by Shewgenja (7776 posts) -

I don't know why people keep saying the 360 is cheaper. I bought my PS3 on launch day back in 2006 for the $600. That being said, had I bought an XBox 360 that same day, I would have ended up spending $750 up to this point to have the console and play games online. No BluRay player and I'd have to kit up the controllers I buy on top of that. All for a machine that more or less plays PC ports arguably better than another console and has had exclusives slow to a trickle since 2009 when MS lost the plot over Kinect.

Yesterday, someone tallied up the AAAEs on the XBox 360 over the course of the generation and it was all Halo/Gears/Forza after 2007. For a discriminating gamer (read that as one with sophisticated taste, not a fanboy) who owns a nice gaming PC, the 360 didn't honestly offer a whole lot. I agree with the OP. Of course, I wouldn't buy a console for multiplats, either. I have PC for that.

#20 Posted by -Snooze- (7304 posts) -

I've had all three consoles and a gaming PC since release and the 360 was by far my favourite console... A lot of the PS3 exclusives don't interest me, besides that it's always been a hassle to do anything on the PS3, the Xbox just does it all better, easier and faster. A simple thing like opening up the market place takes ages on the PS3, when it's instant on the Xbox. Then there's slow arse downloads and updates, not to mention installs. All these things, not to mention the superiority of Xbox Live meant that any multiplat game release was always going to be purchased on the Xbox, limiting my time as much as possible with the awful PS3 UI.

When a good exclusive title was released on the PS3, like inFAMOUS, Disgaea etc, I always felt I would have enjoyed them more on the Xbox, due to the aforementioned reasons, and the controller. I remember playing KZ2 and being shocked how it expected me to use the awful bumpers to shoot, instead of the triggers ... Until I realized the triggers were even worse. All this just made what could have been an excellent multiplayer title, just average to me.

#21 Edited by Wickerman777 (1110 posts) -

Whatever. You guys can puzzle over it all you want but there were things about Xbox and Xbox 360 that were better than PS2 and PS3. But I'll be the first to admit they've screwed up bigtime with Xbox One.

#22 Edited by LJS9502_basic (149337 posts) -

Xbox was superior on price point, online infrastructure and launch lineup. When i made my purchasing decision the playstation was very expensive, poor launch lineup and a poor online. Why would I have chosen a PS3.

The only time I have ever play my PS3 is when Naughty God release a decent game. Hence why I have over 50 xbox games and 7 playstation games.

Most of those 50 games you could have gotten on the PS3 though. So it's not much of an argument.

I have both consoles (along with Nintendo's) because that way I don't miss any game. But as far as MS only games.....they aren't that interesting to me for the most. Thus if I had to pick between the two...I'd go Sony.

#23 Posted by PAL360 (26520 posts) -

As someone who had a PS1, PS2, Xbox and 360, and soon a PS4, i would say it's just a matter of opinion.

Sony does have amazing first party devs, but Xbox and 360 also had great exclusives (Halo, Forza, PGR, Gears...), and many PC games (Half Life 2, Doom 3, KOTOR series, The Witcher 2...), not found on Playstation consoles. I still have to play a Sony shooter as fun as Halo, or a driving game as good as Forza or PGR (Loved the first 3 GT games, though). There are many other factors of preference, like the controller design, the online services, etc...

Then again, i prefer Sony as a company, but those are reason enough for people to support the Xbox systems.

#24 Posted by dvalo9 (1269 posts) -

I much prefered the original xbox over the ps2. It was leagues ahead of it. But as someone posted the cheapest console tends to sell well. The 360 is popular dues to its low price, year early release. and it has the whole mountain dew/doritos brah image associated with it ( why it sells well in USA) as for games, well halo is amazing, gears is trash and forza is great.

#25 Edited by always_explicit (2582 posts) -

I only have 7 games on the PS3 because it isnt as good as the 360.

Its my opinion and its valid. Hate Hate Hate the UI.

#26 Edited by starwolf474 (379 posts) -

I definitely think that Sony has the better first party games, which is why I also end up buying the PlayStation consoles later on in the gen just to play those exclusives, but the main two reasons why I still prefer the Xbox brand and always buy the Xbox consoles first are:

1. Xbox has the best controller ever and I absolutely hate the PlayStation controller.

2. Xbox Live is the best online service. Now that I'm an adult with all of my gamer friends living over 50 miles away, it is rare that I'm able to get together in the same house with friends to play games, so it is very important that we can have the same great multi-player experience playing games online. Xbox Live has always and continues to lead the way in providing the best online multi-player experience while Sony is always playing catch-up in this area.

#27 Posted by sukraj (21470 posts) -

@Samus3D said:

The great upcoming exclusives

Some real big hitters on the xbox one.

#28 Edited by casharmy (6790 posts) -

@casharmy said:

@always_explicit said:

Xbox was superior on price point, online infrastructure and launch lineup. When i made my purchasing decision the playstation was very expensive, poor launch lineup and a poor online. Why would I have chosen a PS3.

The only time I have ever play my PS3 is when Naughty God release a decent game. Hence why I have over 50 xbox games and 7 playstation games.

You have 50 games on xbox because you buy all your multiplatform games on xbox not because it has more high quality games by itself (exclusives) than PS3.

if people bought consoles based on high quality games.................WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE OWN NINTENDO CONSOLES???? take a top 10 games list from any legit every-machine gamer (ie not a one console only person, someone who owns them all) i guarantee more then a few will be nintendo games......

All AAAE games from consoles this gen (excluding Ninja gaiden sigma and MLB 2009 which were both AAA PS3 games)

PS3 (36)Wii (35)360 (34)

Metal Gear Solid 4

SMG2Halo 3
Uncharted 2SSB. BrawlForza 3
InfamousSMGGears of War 3
Killzone 2WarioWareHalo Reach
Demons SoulsLast StoryForza 2
Uncharted 3Xenoblade

GRAW

LBP2

PD0

God of War 3

Halo 4

Resistance 2

Gears of War 2

LBP Halo 3 ODST
Ni No Kuni
Puppeteer
Beyond: Two Souls
#29 Edited by Floppy_Jim (25367 posts) -

Xbox and Xbox 360 had loads of things to offer over the Sony counterparts. Xbone....ok, that has fuck all.

#30 Posted by superfluidity (2163 posts) -

I bought a 360 because it has less online lag in SF4 as well as more competition. I play that game as a serious hobby, so it was a major consideration.

I feel no sense of loyalty to the platform and plan on going with PS4.

#31 Posted by Tadgerot (103 posts) -

Online gaming.

#32 Edited by XxR3m1xInHDn3D (1967 posts) -

Better online and better online games

Better games in general

Comfortable controller

Better price (Wouldn't have been a big deal if the PS3 had a decent launch)

XBox Live Arcade

Achievements were like crack in 2005 - 2007

Sony's systems always age better because the best Sony games are always single player. In 10 years from now someone could pick up the PS3 for the first time and experience its best games without missing out on anything whereas with games like Halo you had to experience the best part of the game in 2007 - 2009. It's partly why people say the Original XBox is awful because most people didn't get to play the games on Live so they just wouldn't know.

I'm strictly talking about pre 2009 as the PS3 has dominated the 360 since then

#33 Posted by lundy86_4 (42548 posts) -

People have different preferences. You should just move on.

#34 Posted by ShoTTyMcNaDeS (1840 posts) -

So xbox owners

With the PS4 being stronger and likely having better looking multiplats and being cheaper, Would you jump to Sony?

Analysts say the PS4 controller is better too so the only thing left is online which Sony has been catching up in

Already have. Switched my Xbox One preorder at Gamestop to buy games and gear for my PS4 preorder which is at another retailer. The reason I am getting PS4 as a previous XBOX fan? Better hardware, better controller(based off of what EVERYONE is saying" and of course $100 less. Plus, I just feel like starting new with a new bunch of games.

#35 Posted by StormyJoe (4474 posts) -

So xbox owners

With the PS4 being stronger and likely having better looking multiplats and being cheaper, Would you jump to Sony?

Analysts say the PS4 controller is better too so the only thing left is online which Sony has been catching up in

Why would the PS4 have better looking multiplats? Even if the PS4 has this mythic "hardware advantage" (seriously, 30-40% isn't sh*t), multiplat studios write games to the lowest common denominator. So, even if you are right, that LCD wold be the XBox one. So, multiplats would look the same across all three (XB1, PC, PS3).

#36 Edited by StormyJoe (4474 posts) -

I've been a Playstation owner for years. For whatever reason, Xbox has never really sold me on anything. What keeps the Xbox fan base? We have these incredibly popular games...God of War, the Uncharted series, Ratchet and Clank, The Last of Us, Infamous and I LOVED Heavy Rain - and now Beyond: Two Souls (and there are many other exclusives not mentioned) Not to mention an amazing Blu-ray player. So, what does Xbox have that I'm missing out on? Or, am I? I just don't understand this.

Better multiplayer, better social online system, better controller, bigger online community, and I like Halo, Gears, Fable, Forza better than Killzone, Uncharted, Infamous, and Gran Turismo.

I like Sony exclusives. But, I don't like them enough to switch to PlayStation and give up what the 360 gave me and the XB1 will give me.

#37 Posted by Lucianu (9287 posts) -

XBOX 360 brought high res games sooner then PS3 did with a better controller and a better experience IMO.

The OG Xbox had 720p support (no upscale, if that's what you're thinking) for a good chunk of games actually, like Soul Calibur II.

#38 Edited by Lucianu (9287 posts) -

@casharmy said:

All AAAE games from consoles this gen (excluding Ninja gaiden sigma and MLB 2009 which were both AAA PS3 games)

PS3 (36)Wii (35)360 (34)

Metal Gear Solid 4

SMG2Halo 3
Uncharted 2SSB. BrawlForza 3
InfamousSMGGears of War 3
Killzone 2WarioWareHalo Reach
Demons SoulsLast StoryForza 2
Uncharted 3Xenoblade

GRAW

LBP2

PD0

God of War 3

Halo 4

Resistance 2

Gears of War 2

LBP Halo 3 ODST
Ni No Kuni
Puppeteer
Beyond: Two Souls

You're missing out on a lot of great Wii games, man.

#39 Posted by Nonstop-Madness (9466 posts) -

When the 360 launched nearly a full year ahead of the PS3, it allowed Microsoft to create a core group of gamers that were social/online centric. That along with a more mature online platform as well as more developer friendly hardware allowed Microsoft to take charge of core multiplats like Call of Duty. Not to mention releasing exclusives like Gears of War and Halo. That core audience continued to grow and was the driving force of the 360's popularity through most of the generation. The 360's done so well because it managed to capture groups of friends, especially in the States. The 360 and XBL simply created a unique and appealing experience.

#40 Edited by fadersdream (3153 posts) -

Bait thread.

Why can't there be a sticky on this so we don't have to keep wasting band width?

#41 Posted by cainetao11 (15601 posts) -

@MiguelNoche:

Halo. I am a big fan, books, comics, games. Fable, loved 1&2, liked 3. Kameo, Gears. Now there are games it shares with PC, but my laptop cant run them. Witcher2, L4D 1&2, among others. I also play some original Xbox titles on my 360 from time to time. I prefer the controller.

#42 Posted by always_explicit (2582 posts) -

When the 360 launched nearly a full year ahead of the PS3, it allowed Microsoft to create a core group of gamers that were social/online centric. That along with a more mature online platform as well as more developer friendly hardware allowed Microsoft to take charge of core multiplats like Call of Duty. Not to mention releasing exclusives like Gears of War and Halo. That core audience continued to grow and was the driving force of the 360's popularity through most of the generation. The 360's done so well because it managed to capture groups of friends, especially in the States. The 360 and XBL simply created a unique and appealing experience.

Totally agree with this. My 360 is just a seamless and enjoyable experience. I buy a game a take it home and I play it knowing that the online community for said game is going to be great and the features are in place to support it. Achievements, voice chat, parties etc. This was all easy from day one on the 360.

PS3....I buy a game and cant play it for 30 mins because it needs to install updates. Immediately sours the gaming experience.

I also have a serious beef with the UI. Its ugly and unintuitive.

#43 Posted by X_CAPCOM_X (5994 posts) -

Whatever. You guys can puzzle over it all you want but there were things about Xbox and Xbox 360 that were better than PS2 and PS3. But I'll be the first to admit they've screwed up bigtime with Xbox One.

Xbox and PS2? That wasn't even a close competition; PS2 scraped the OG Xbox in every way.

#44 Edited by darkangel115 (1333 posts) -

@MiguelNoche:

I've been a Playstation owner for years. For whatever reason, Xbox has never really sold me on anything. What keeps the Xbox fan base? We have these incredibly popular games...God of War, the Uncharted series, Ratchet and Clank, The Last of Us, Infamous and I LOVED Heavy Rain - and now Beyond: Two Souls (and there are many other exclusives not mentioned) Not to mention an amazing Blu-ray player. So, what does Xbox have that I'm missing out on? Or, am I? I just don't understand this.

Alot of gamers especially xbox gamers don't like the PS exclusives. reason is they aren't good with game play, its more like an interactive movie. Personally i didn't like TLOU at all, i played the demo of beyond and have no clue how anyone could enjoy that game, I avoided heavy rain at all costs. Wasn't a fan of uncharted or God of war. This comes form someone who has both and is getting a PS4 and X1 but the 360 was my main this gen and all signs point to the X1 being my main this coming gen. Your too much based on your personal opinion. same could be said for xbox only people saying we have halo, gears, state of decay, DR3, Titanfall, Ryse, Project spark, etc etc

#45 Edited by Suppaman100 (3513 posts) -

@sukraj said:

@Samus3D said:

The great upcoming exclusives

Some real big hitters on the xbox one.

That's a fallacy.

Both line-ups are mediocre.

#46 Edited by GustavoDALBEN (15 posts) -

First of all sorry about my english, i hope you understand, still learning.

Better interface (dashboard).

Best Controller on the market.

(these are my fav exclusives)

Geow

Forza 3 4 and horizon (lvl 150 and still in love)

Halo

Ala Wake

The online experience is better on xbox live games, i also have an ps3 and i love uncharted, gt, resistance, god of war and heavy rain. Tlou, infamous, mgs4, killzone and beyond not so much.

Ps3 have better singleplayer/offline games, and xbox have better coop/competitive games. The only game that i felt diferent was demons souls, but now we have dark souls ( even on pc ).

Both systems are great, its really amusing how you kids fight over things like these.

#47 Edited by darkangel115 (1333 posts) -

@Wickerman777 said:

Whatever. You guys can puzzle over it all you want but there were things about Xbox and Xbox 360 that were better than PS2 and PS3. But I'll be the first to admit they've screwed up bigtime with Xbox One.

Xbox and PS2? That wasn't even a close competition; PS2 scraped the OG Xbox in every way.

Yup it did. the xbox was more powerful by alot, had way more features, a real online service, yet the PS2 outsold it 6 to 1. Why? because the PS3 had an amazing games library.

#48 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (5854 posts) -

You are what is called a blind fanboy. Nothing from MS interests you because you have never given one attempt to have a interest. I guess the other 78 million people that bought the 360 are just idiots.

#49 Posted by magicalclick (22170 posts) -

Hmmm.... It has awesome games you haven't played. If you find no interest in those games, you don't. Just like I have zero interest in the game you listed.

#50 Posted by Phazevariance (10887 posts) -

@casharmy said:

@always_explicit said:

Xbox was superior on price point, online infrastructure and launch lineup. When i made my purchasing decision the playstation was very expensive, poor launch lineup and a poor online. Why would I have chosen a PS3.

The only time I have ever play my PS3 is when Naughty God release a decent game. Hence why I have over 50 xbox games and 7 playstation games.

You have 50 games on xbox because you buy all your multiplatform games on xbox not because it has more high quality games by itself (exclusives) than PS3.

Which amkes sense since the ps3 versions of multiplats were often worse graphically, resolutions, or had graphics settings turned down/off to compensate. Thus, xbox had sales.