Dear Lems, Explain your Titan Fall praise.

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#1 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

What exactly is TitanFall doing that's new? What is it doing that CoD, StarHawk, WarHawk, MAG, Gundam, and other games haven't done. I'm not asking to troll but I actually sincerely want to know. I seriously don't get it. And I don't think I'm the only one who shares in the confusion.

That first gameplay reveal offered a futuristic look at Mech combat, but seemed to share DNA with Activision’s reigning king of online multiplayer. But according to the developer, looks can be deceiving.

Speaking with OXM, Respawn’s Community Manager Abbie Heppe gives her firsthand impressions of what happens when players jump into Titanfall as if it were any standard shooter on the market:

“I still watch everybody come in and play it like they’re playing a less vertical shooter… They come in, they hide behind cover, they pop out and shoot a dude, they run for the next cover. When we play we’re immediately on the walls and roofs, running around like crazy."

“You have to break people in a bit… And then I see them jump into a wall and they’re like ‘oh, I just ran along it’ – and by the end of the match they’re going crazy and playing more like how I would play.

“Even if you tell them, ‘No no no, you should do this’, it takes them doing it themselves to realise that – ‘oh, you really can! Even after seeing the trailers and the gameplay videos we’ve released, you’d think [people would know], but it’s about breaking people out of how they’ve always been playing.”

“I see people walk down the corridors. And it’s like: ‘You’re going to get run over by a Titan. I mean, he’s going to stomp on you if you keep doing that.’ So you want to get in the paths, in the buildings, on the routes the designers have left for you.”

“You’ll say ‘Oh I love playing with the R1 Sidewinder, I love playing with the Smart Pistol’ – and then you build out from there. You’re not going to have an overwhelming amount with you on the battlefield, it’s about keeping the things that you love, the loadout that you want to play, and making it so that you can try everything.”

....I STILL DON'T GET IT...WHAT'S SO DIFFERENT?

#2 Posted by clyde46 (46551 posts) -

Looks fun to play?

#3 Posted by lundy86_4 (43514 posts) -

Maybe you should ask the gaming industry first...

#4 Posted by stereointegrity (10731 posts) -

Its not on ps4

#5 Posted by lostrib (37484 posts) -

looks like fun? It's made by COD4 developers?

"Titanfall took over 60 awards at its E3 2013 reveal,[32] including a record-breaking six E3 Critics Awards: Best in Show, Best Original Game, Best Console Game, Best PC Game, Best Action Game, and Best Online Multiplayer.[33] The game also won Best in Show from IGN,[34]Destructoid,[35]Game Informer,[36] and Electronic Gaming Monthly."

#6 Edited by casharmy (6833 posts) -

@stereointegrity said:

Its not on ps4

#7 Posted by lamprey263 (24130 posts) -

looks good to everyone without cow goggles, since they're the oddballs on that one they should have to explain why they don't think it looks good

#8 Posted by magicalclick (22779 posts) -

Because it hasn't come out like GT6 scoring a 7 on Gamespot. So, there is still room to dream.

#9 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

I'm not a lemming but the game just looks fun. Plus that type of game looks perfect for PC where speed and precision is everything.

The game just looks damn fun, that's it and Mechs are ALWAYS cool. ALWAYS!!

#10 Edited by Muffin2020 (527 posts) -

Going PS4 (been PS3 last Gen) but it looks fun so picked up a second hand £50.00 360 to play it on.

#11 Posted by shawn30 (4367 posts) -

@lostrib said:

looks like fun? It's made by COD4 developers?

"Titanfall took over 60 awards at its E3 2013 reveal,[32] including a record-breaking six E3 Critics Awards: Best in Show, Best Original Game, Best Console Game, Best PC Game, Best Action Game, and Best Online Multiplayer.[33] The game also won Best in Show from IGN,[34]Destructoid,[35]Game Informer,[36] and Electronic Gaming Monthly."

John, if the above post doesn't explain the hype for this game then you will never get it. Here is a longer list.

http://www.titanfall.com/news/titanfall-awards

TITANFALL AWARDS

The votes are in from E3, Gamescom, PAX Prime, and Tokyo Game Show and the Titanfall team is proud to be the recipient of these prestigious gaming awards. Thank You!

Tokyo Game Show 2013

Tokyo Game Show Future Game of Show Award

PAX 2013

Destructoid Editor's Choice
GamesRadar Best of PAX 2013 - #1

Gamescom 2013

Destructoid Best of Gamescom Editors Choice
Gamescom Awards Best Console Game, Microsoft Xbox
Gamescom Awards Best Next Generation, Console
Gameswelt Best of Show
Jeuxvideo.com France Best Xbox One Game
Jeuxvideo.com France Best FPS
NWTV Gametip Gamescom 2013
PC Games Editor's Choice X360/Xbox One Award
PC Games X360 Games Editor's Choice PC Award
Play3 Editor's Choice PS3/PS4 Award
XGN Best of Show

E3 2013

@Gamer Most Valuable Game
Atomix Best Xbox One Game
CNET 12 Most Exciting Games of E3 2013
CV Games Best of E3 2013
Destructoid Game of Show
Digital Spy Best Shooter
Digital Trends Best Microsoft Exclusive
EGM Now Best Game of E3 2013
EGM Now Best Shooter
Electric Playground Best of E3
Electric Playground Best of E3 (Shooter)
EW.com Most Exciting Games at E3 2013
Game Critics Awards Best of Show
Game Critics Awards Best Original Game
Game Critics Awards Best Console Game
Game Critics Awards Best PC Game
Game Critics Awards Best Action Game
Game Critics Awards Best Online Multiplayer
Game Informer Best in Show
Game Informer Best Multiplayer Game
Game Informer Best Shooter
Game Informer Best Multiplatform Game
Game One Best Multiplayer Game
Game Revolution Best of E3
Game Shampoo Best Shooter
GamerNode Best of E3
Gamers Game of Show
GameSpot Best of E3 (Editor's Choice)
GamesRadar Most Valuable Game
GamesRadar Best Call of Duty Game
GameTrailers Best New IP
Gaming Excellence Best Console Exclusive
Gaming Excellence Best Shooter
Gaming Trend Best of Show
Gaming Trend Best Shooting Game
GryOnline Best New Brand
GryOnline Best Action Game
Hardcore Gamer Best Xbox One Game
Hardcore Gamer Best Xbox 360 Game
IGN Best Overall Game
IGN Best Xbox One Game
IGN Best PC Game
IGN Best Shooter
IGN Australia Top 21 Games of E3 2013
IGN Italy Best Multiplayer Game Xbox One
Lazy Gamer Best Multiplayer
Machinima Game of Show
Machinima Best Shooter
Official Xbox Magazine Most Valuable Game
PC Gamer Most Valuable Game
PC Gamer Best FPS
Polygon Editor’s Choice
Pop.com.br Best PC Game
RadioTimes 10 best games of E3 2013
Rev3 Games Favorite Games of E3 2013
Techno Buffalo Top 5 Games from E3 2013
The Nerdist Best in Show
The Telegraph UK Top 15 Best Games of E3 2013
USA Today Top 10 Favorites from E3 (#1)
VentureBeat Game of Show
Worthplaying Best of E3 2013
Xbox 360 Achievements Best Shooter of the Show
Yahoo! Games Best of E3 2013

#12 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16617 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin said:

I'm not a lemming but the game just looks fun. Plus that type of game looks perfect for PC where speed and precision is everything.

The game just looks damn fun, that's it and Mechs are ALWAYS cool. ALWAYS!!

Yeah, the game does look like pure fun. But I'm wondering if I should get Titanfall or wait for the BF4 premium edition, because I only want to focus on one MP shooter.

Both look pretty great...

#13 Posted by StormyJoe (5475 posts) -

@John_Matherson:

COD, Battlefield, etc. are all XY games. True, there are buildings you can go into, helicopters you can pilot, but essentially they are XY axis games.

TitanFall is an XYZ axis game. Players are flying around in jet packs, climbing walls, etc. The Z axis is not the exception or gimmick, it is the norm. That's never really been done before. And, the game play changes based on what you want to do in battles. No "perk" is going to do that in CoD.

It's like they played Halo: Reach,Halo 4, Call of Duty, and MechWarrior; then thought "Hey, what would happen if we made a game that tightly integrated something like the jet pack armor in Halo with game play? Ya know, taking it beyond a gimmick and making it integral to the game play? What if we then added the best of old school games like MechWarrior and let our players hop into mechs? What if we then took all that, and made the game play as fast paced as something like Call of Duty?"

I guess, if you want to say "that has been done before", then you could say something like: "TitanFall looks like a cross between a modern FPS and MechAssault 2", you'd have a superficial, but valid, argument. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caiIamHIzBY

#14 Posted by treedoor (7648 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

I'm not asking to troll

#15 Posted by Heil68 (45080 posts) -

IT's a mulit plat, no explanation needed.

#16 Posted by lawlessx (46765 posts) -

"What exactly is TitanFall doing that's new? What is it doing that CoD, StarHawk, WarHawk, MAG, Gundam, and other games haven't done"

be in an first person shooter and not suck. You're asking what it's doing that is so different when the answer is pretty clear

#17 Posted by ohgeez (910 posts) -

The gameplay looks very solid, quick, and responsive for a game of that nature.

I'm pretty bummed out about it not having single player though and will probably wait until reviews.

#18 Posted by bobbetybob (19286 posts) -

I absolutely hate when people say stuff like this. "What does this game do that all these other separate games don't already do?" Well gee, maybe it's combining good elements from all those individual properties into a single game that looks like a shit ton of fun?

You can make any game sound boring or unoriginal by breaking it down into it's parts and influences, "What's so special about The Last of Us, it's just The Road meets Uncharted, snooze, boring!" If you're not excited for Titanfall that's fine but acting like it's is just a rip off of a bunch of different things with no thought put into it is ridiculous.

#19 Edited by Zelda187 (937 posts) -

@lamprey263 said:

looks good to everyone without cow goggles, since they're the oddballs on that one they should have to explain why they don't think it looks good

I don't think it looks like a bad game, I just fail to see anything "revolutionary" here. What, so I can jump in a mech suit from time to time and run up walls? Whoopty shit.

Hell, the game doesn't even feature a single player campaign to play through, which tells me there is absolutely ZERO chance to experience a decent storyline or somewhat interesting characters.

The only games in the FPS genre that seeming have any originality to them is the Bioshock series.

I honestly couldn't care less about games like CoD, Battlefield, etc.

It's just the same old shit. Run around the same handful of tiny ass levels while you shoot at the first opposing player to run across the screen. I just find it extremely repetitive and boring.

#20 Posted by TheEroica (13690 posts) -

Speaking as a gamer, who loves great games, any game that won that many awards and garnered that much hype following e3 including several major game of show awards, deserves to be on EVERY gamers radar. I feel bad for the fanboys who would deny a games potential based on the piece of plastic it runs on... Shouldn't we be asking cows to state a legit reason why they're acting like children over a game that has garnered so much positive press and excitement... Tis a sad behavior.

#21 Edited by clr84651 (5485 posts) -

@stereointegrity said:

Its not on ps4

That's not something it's doing different. And it's multi-player only. And if it scores lower than expected like Ryse did, then you've got nothing. So praise it when it scores high and boast about it when it's actually something to boast about.

#22 Edited by Snugenz (11889 posts) -

@stereointegrity said:

Its not on ps4

No you're confused, that would be the reason it gets so much shit.

#23 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

holy shit this thread blew up quick

#24 Posted by TheEroica (13690 posts) -

@John_Matherson: that's because it's an easy target...

#25 Posted by The_Last_Ride (72239 posts) -

i don't get the hype at all, personally i think the hype it gets is very overrated. There are other games that i think look way better like Destiny

#26 Posted by stereointegrity (10731 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@stereointegrity said:

Its not on ps4

No you're confused, that would be the reason it gets so much shit.

or the reason why lems praise it so high

#27 Posted by eNT1TY (1031 posts) -

It's like tribes, hawken, and 2142 rolled into one (to me atleast); those games rock so why not praise something similar. ...bu bu bu cod with mechs, well yeah, i love cod and i love mechs. Not a lem btw.

#28 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

I'm not a lemming but the game just looks fun. Plus that type of game looks perfect for PC where speed and precision is everything.

The game just looks damn fun, that's it and Mechs are ALWAYS cool. ALWAYS!!

Yeah, the game does look like pure fun. But I'm wondering if I should get Titanfall or wait for the BF4 premium edition, because I only want to focus on one MP shooter.

Both look pretty great...

I'd say it depends on your style. Both have VERY different styles of gameplay.

Are you more tactically minded and enjoy a slower overall pace

or are you more of the CoD mindset where you get a lot of kills and have more of a speed driven gameplay atmosphere

#29 Edited by R4gn4r0k (16617 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin said:

I'd say it depends on your style. Both have VERY different styles of gameplay.

Are you more tactically minded and enjoy a slower overall pace

or are you more of the CoD mindset where you get a lot of kills and have more of a speed driven gameplay atmosphere

Tactical and teamplay above all else. But taking control over a mech looks way cooler than all the vehicles in BF.

I'd really like to play a demo of Titanfall if they ever make one, it looks great but am not 100% convinced yet. On the other hand I know exactly how BF4 plays by playing all the older ones and the beta.

#30 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (8748 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

Looks fun to play?

Does not compute.

#31 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

I still don't hage an aswer to my question. What does it do differently from other games? Because for every factor given there has been previous games that have done it and those games did it quite well so what exactly new does it bring to the table? Yes, I'm aware of the awards and the press attention but that doesn't answer my questions.

Boy you guys really need to learn the difference between popularity and quality. Holy shit.

#32 Posted by cainetao11 (17692 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

Looks fun to play?

that's it. never said it recreates the wheel. TLOU didn't do anything I hadn't done before over the years but it was fun. Titanfall looks like a lot of fun.

#33 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

I'd say it depends on your style. Both have VERY different styles of gameplay.

Are you more tactically minded and enjoy a slower overall pace

or are you more of the CoD mindset where you get a lot of kills and have more of a speed driven gameplay atmosphere

Tactical and teamplay above all else. But taking control over a mech looks way cooler than all the vehicles in BF.

I'd really like to play a demo of Titanfall if they ever make one, it looks great but am not 100% convinced yet. On the other hand I know exactly how BF4 plays by playing all the older ones and the beta.

I hope for a Titanfall beta too.

#34 Posted by MdBrOtha04 (1822 posts) -

I doubt we will see any bashing of this game when the sequels are release on the ps4 as well as the One.

#35 Edited by clone01 (24828 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

holy shit this thread blew up quick

Yes, when the TC is an idiot that often happens.

#36 Posted by k2theswiss (16599 posts) -

looks fun

looks refreshing

no other game is like titanfall

the press as yet to say anything bad

#37 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@John_Matherson said:

holy shit this thread blew up quick

Yes, when the TC is an idiot that often happens.

Do you want to go on a date with me?

#38 Posted by lostrib (37484 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

I still don't hage an aswer to my question. What does it do differently from other games? Because for every factor given there has been previous games that have done it and those games did it quite well so what exactly new does it bring to the table? Yes, I'm aware of the awards and the press attention but that doesn't answer my questions.

Boy you guys really need to learn the difference between popularity and quality. Holy shit.

why does it have to do something differently? It looks like fun, and it continuously gets praised as one of the best games when it is shown at conventions like E3.

#39 Posted by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@cainetao11 said:

@clyde46 said:

Looks fun to play?

that's it. never said it recreates the wheel. TLOU didn't do anything I hadn't done before over the years but it was fun. Titanfall looks like a lot of fun.

Oh please, Titanfall is a glorified brogame on steroids. If that game is as successful as its hyped we'd have to worry about dumb developers tacking on stupid mechs and wall climbing elements on games that have no business having stupid mechs and wall climbing, just so they can tap into the dumb trend demographic. That, my friend, is the unfortunate business cycle gaming has turned into nowadays. BOOM

#40 Posted by Snugenz (11889 posts) -

@stereointegrity said:

@Snugenz said:

@stereointegrity said:

Its not on ps4

No you're confused, that would be the reason it gets so much shit.

or the reason why lems praise it so high

Only a cow would think that.

#41 Posted by inb4uall (5806 posts) -

One word.

Desperation.

#42 Posted by lostrib (37484 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

@cainetao11 said:

@clyde46 said:

Looks fun to play?

that's it. never said it recreates the wheel. TLOU didn't do anything I hadn't done before over the years but it was fun. Titanfall looks like a lot of fun.

Oh please, Titanfall is a glorified brogame on steroids. If that game is as successful as its hyped we'd have to worry about dumb developers tacking on stupid mechs and wall climbing elements on games that have no business having stupid mechs and wall climbing, just so they can tap into the dumb trend demographic. That, my friend, is the unfortunate business cycle gaming has turned into nowadays. BOOM

So someone gives you a legitimate reason why they are looking for the game and you just spew your biased bullshit all over it? You are a worthless troll, at best a blind fanboy

#43 Edited by lawlessx (46765 posts) -
@John_Matherson said:

@cainetao11 said:

@clyde46 said:

Looks fun to play?

that's it. never said it recreates the wheel. TLOU didn't do anything I hadn't done before over the years but it was fun. Titanfall looks like a lot of fun.

Oh please, Titanfall is a glorified brogame on steroids. If that game is as successful as its hyped we'd have to worry about dumb developers tacking on stupid mechs and wall climbing elements on games that have no business having stupid mechs and wall climbing, just so they can tap into the dumb trend demographic. That, my friend, is the unfortunate business cycle gaming has turned into nowadays. BOOM

people are giving you legitimate reasons as to why the game is getting praised and YOU keep discrediting them. What exactly do you hope to gain from this thread? who said a game needs to reinvent the wheel to get praise?

#44 Edited by John_Matherson (2031 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@John_Matherson said:

@cainetao11 said:

@clyde46 said:

Looks fun to play?

that's it. never said it recreates the wheel. TLOU didn't do anything I hadn't done before over the years but it was fun. Titanfall looks like a lot of fun.

Oh please, Titanfall is a glorified brogame on steroids. If that game is as successful as its hyped we'd have to worry about dumb developers tacking on stupid mechs and wall climbing elements on games that have no business having stupid mechs and wall climbing, just so they can tap into the dumb trend demographic. That, my friend, is the unfortunate business cycle gaming has turned into nowadays. BOOM

So someone gives you a legitimate reason why they are looking for the game and you just spew your biased bullshit all over it? You are a worthless troll, at best a blind fanboy

No, idiot, the OP is objective but i'm still entitled to my opinion. Dude, you're seriously creepy, you know that? You're actually seriously obsessed with me. Seriously go to all my threads or any thread I've commented on. You literally follow me around the forums just nitpicking and nagging at me. Do you want to come with Clone1 and me on our date? LMAO.

And no what I said isn't an opinion, but a speculation based on something that's actually happening and has happened in the past. If you take your creeper and secret crush goggles off for one second you'll see that what I said is a fact, and a game like TF being influential on other games can either be good or really bad, with really bad being the more likely!

#45 Posted by lostrib (37484 posts) -

@lawlessx said:
@John_Matherson said:

@cainetao11 said:

@clyde46 said:

Looks fun to play?

that's it. never said it recreates the wheel. TLOU didn't do anything I hadn't done before over the years but it was fun. Titanfall looks like a lot of fun.

Oh please, Titanfall is a glorified brogame on steroids. If that game is as successful as its hyped we'd have to worry about dumb developers tacking on stupid mechs and wall climbing elements on games that have no business having stupid mechs and wall climbing, just so they can tap into the dumb trend demographic. That, my friend, is the unfortunate business cycle gaming has turned into nowadays. BOOM

people are giving you legitimate reasons as to why the game is getting praised and YOU keep discrediting them. What exactly do you hope to gain from this thread? who said a game needs to reinvent the wheel to get praise?

if this was a PS4 exclusive he would probably be creaming his jeans about how great and revolutionary it is

#46 Posted by lawlessx (46765 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@lawlessx said:
@John_Matherson said:

@cainetao11 said:

@clyde46 said:

Looks fun to play?

that's it. never said it recreates the wheel. TLOU didn't do anything I hadn't done before over the years but it was fun. Titanfall looks like a lot of fun.

Oh please, Titanfall is a glorified brogame on steroids. If that game is as successful as its hyped we'd have to worry about dumb developers tacking on stupid mechs and wall climbing elements on games that have no business having stupid mechs and wall climbing, just so they can tap into the dumb trend demographic. That, my friend, is the unfortunate business cycle gaming has turned into nowadays. BOOM

people are giving you legitimate reasons as to why the game is getting praised and YOU keep discrediting them. What exactly do you hope to gain from this thread? who said a game needs to reinvent the wheel to get praise?

if this was a PS4 exclusive he would probably be creaming his jeans about how great and revolutionary it is

If this was a PS4 exclusive you'll be seeing tons of sony fanboys praising sony for allowing such revolutionary games like titianfall on the PS4.

#47 Posted by mrintro (1354 posts) -

John Matherson - you are too good for this forum

#48 Posted by lostrib (37484 posts) -

@John_Matherson said:

@lostrib said:

@John_Matherson said:

@cainetao11 said:

@clyde46 said:

Looks fun to play?

that's it. never said it recreates the wheel. TLOU didn't do anything I hadn't done before over the years but it was fun. Titanfall looks like a lot of fun.

Oh please, Titanfall is a glorified brogame on steroids. If that game is as successful as its hyped we'd have to worry about dumb developers tacking on stupid mechs and wall climbing elements on games that have no business having stupid mechs and wall climbing, just so they can tap into the dumb trend demographic. That, my friend, is the unfortunate business cycle gaming has turned into nowadays. BOOM

So someone gives you a legitimate reason why they are looking for the game and you just spew your biased bullshit all over it? You are a worthless troll, at best a blind fanboy

No, idiot, the OP is objective but i'm still entitled to my opinion. Dude, you're seriously creepy, you know that? You're actually seriously obsessed with me. Seriously go to all my threads or any thread I've commented on. You literally follow me around the forums just nitpicking and nagging at me. Do you want to come with Clone1 and me on our date? LMAO.

And no what I said isn't an opinion, but a speculation based on something that's actually happening and has happened in the past. If you take your creeper and secret crush goggles off for one second you'll see that what I said is a fact, and a game like TF being influential on other games can either be good or really bad, with really bad being the more likely!

So that's all you got? no legitimate comeback, just some lame delusions. You are just another whiny, fanboy troll.

#49 Edited by lostrib (37484 posts) -

@lawlessx said:

@lostrib said:

@lawlessx said:
@John_Matherson said:

@cainetao11 said:

@clyde46 said:

Looks fun to play?

that's it. never said it recreates the wheel. TLOU didn't do anything I hadn't done before over the years but it was fun. Titanfall looks like a lot of fun.

Oh please, Titanfall is a glorified brogame on steroids. If that game is as successful as its hyped we'd have to worry about dumb developers tacking on stupid mechs and wall climbing elements on games that have no business having stupid mechs and wall climbing, just so they can tap into the dumb trend demographic. That, my friend, is the unfortunate business cycle gaming has turned into nowadays. BOOM

people are giving you legitimate reasons as to why the game is getting praised and YOU keep discrediting them. What exactly do you hope to gain from this thread? who said a game needs to reinvent the wheel to get praise?

if this was a PS4 exclusive he would probably be creaming his jeans about how great and revolutionary it is

If this was a PS4 exclusive you'll be seeing tons of sony fanboys praising sony for allowing such revolutionary games like titianfall on the PS4.

Them fanboy goggles.

#50 Posted by lawlessx (46765 posts) -

you expect too much from him lostrib