DA: Inquisition vs D: Original Sin

One more gripe I have for PC version is the 8 button action bar. Why do we have to limit ourselves to 8 abilities at same time?

One more gripe I have for PC version is the 8 button action bar. Why do we have to limit ourselves to 8 abilities at same time?

terrible rant post...

I had to use the Tactical camera on dragon fights consistently on normal. The rest is easy... but then so was DA Origins.... DA2 was a mess of a game lets ignore it existed.

Divinty was a nice

"No auto attack" OHHHH NOOOOO ... ffs

10x better in this than DA1.

DA Origins was a "MEH" high budget nod to games past.... DA: Inq is the best in the series by far... regardless of what friggin genre it is.

Its not good, the companion suck and the story is simply has no sense of identity.

And while Divinty does have the better combat system, DAI beats it everywhere else. In fact, Divinity is a good tactical combat game...it is a bad RPG. Baldur's Gate this is not.

How is the game like Skyrim? Sorry, but DAI is its own series formula blown up to a massive scale.

Sorry, but old school RPGs do not age well. As much as I love Ultima when I was a kid, its outdated and a chore to play now. The genre evolved, get over it.

Inquisitions companions are far better, outside Sera, who doesn't fit the game. they are far more nuanced and human, and less clichéd. Varric, Cassandra, and Leliana (who was the only character in DAO I find great) are the series best characters, and Vivenne is a great new character. Less talking codex entry and far more character development than Origins as well.

You can set them to "hold" a position....

Dragon Age: Inquistion is an "action" game. Divinity is what we call a "CRPG" (computer role playing game).

ROLE PLAYING GAME you know what role means? ofc you don't you are ignorant. Anyway people, classify them any way you want, in the end dragon age isition is by far the superior gam

It seems aside from ripping off Skyrim and betraying the games roots cynical, like; it's a console designed MMO in without other players in which kill 10 X return to NPC. Waste of time.

Appearance seem to make me inclined to agree - Divinity being significantly better. Being a pc designed title (as opposed to a console EA) this is understandable, as well as logical.

He is talking about tactics from Origin , not just asking them to hold their position .

Havent played Inquisition, but Divinity OS is one of the best RPGs I have played I a while.

Same here, and I don't plan to play Inquisition. Every other Dragon Age game was complete shit (and yes I include Origins! The battle system was great, but the world and environment were generic and boring as ****!) and this seems no different.

@Cloud_imperium Gold Rush has been bitching about Divinity's story since it first came out, and from the sound of it, he never actually beat the game--pretty fucking stupid to comment on the overarching story of a game you've never actually completed. Just ignore him; he's a fucking moronic Bioware lackey. Usually they stick to their shithole Bioware forums, but every once in a while they emerge to shit on anything not Bioware. He's just upset that a small little company with Kickstarter money was able to best Bioware.

Biggest issue in DAI is that it doesn't allow player to customize the tactics AI party members use. One of the most hyped features in Origins and it was great. You could tell what skills/spells to use, when and against who without constant micromanaging. I don't understand why my mages just love to rush into melee to get killed. In Origins and DA2 I could tell them to run away if enemy gets too close.

In Origins I could go through whole game controlling only my character, but in DAI I'm constantly switching between party members

@Cloud_imperium Gold Rush has been bitching about Divinity's story since it first came out, and from the sound of it, he never actually beat the game--pretty fucking stupid to comment on the overarching story of a game you've never actually completed. Just ignore him; he's a fucking moronic Bioware lackey. Usually they stick to their shithole Bioware forums, but every once in a while they emerge to shit on anything not Bioware. He's just upset that a small little company with Kickstarter money was able to best Bioware.

Wrong, not only did I beat the game, I have all the achievements. Its not well written. The companions are boring and the game's story wants to be wacky instead of meaningful. I find no real identity other than this wackiness.

Once again, Divinity has great combat, but bad role playing. Outside one instance (where in the third "chapter", you have the humans find out about the orc betrayal), choices do not matter in Divinity. No alternate endings, nothing. Take also a ridiculous speechcraft system, and a inferior leveling system to the Fallout games, and inventory clutter. Also, very plastic world, far more so than DAI. Those idiots in Divinity do not know that I completed their quest for them, while in DAI, the area can change.

And do not get me started on the final boss killing the goddess before I even have my turn.

He is talking about tactics from Origin , not just asking them to hold their position .

Apples and Oranges.

And you obviously made this thread just to bash DA instead of actually comparing it to anything.

Thats a b!tch move right there.

DAI no contest.

OS is boring outdated trash funded on nostalgia alone.

@Cloud_imperium said:

@MBirdy88 said:

@Icarian said:

Biggest issue in DAI is that it doesn't allow player to customize the tactics AI party members use. One of the most hyped features in Origins and it was great. You could tell what skills/spells to use, when and against who without constant micromanaging. I don't understand why my mages just love to rush into melee to get killed. In Origins and DA2 I could tell them to run away if enemy gets too close.

In Origins I could go through whole game controlling only my character, but in DAI I'm constantly switching between party members

You can set them to "hold" a position....

He is talking about tactics from Origin , not just asking them to hold their position .

To me this is one MAJOR flaws of inquisition, Dear good the tactics option is pure sh**********t on nightmare you die mainly because ur AI is stupid like a mage attacking a boss right up in his FACE...seriously bioware give us some better tactics options. , no idea why they removed the above options WHY BIOWARE WHHHHY!!!!!

To me this is one MAJOR flaws of inquisition, Dear good the tactics option is pure sh**********t on nightmare you die mainly because ur AI is stupid like a mage attacking a boss right up in his FACE...seriously bioware give us some better tactics options. , no idea why they removed the above options WHY BIOWARE WHHHHY!!!!!

I respect your opinion .

Blackwall: Follow himself, prioritize taunt/guard abilities.

Sera: Defend Blackwall, prioritize poison abilities

Dorian: Defend Blackwall, prioritize spirit abilities (barrier especially).

The complaints about the difficulty of DA:I is kind of confusing. They're kind of saying two different, incompatible things here. So is the game too noobish and easy (since Bioware allegedly "dumbed it down"), or too hard since many are admitting to dying even on Normal? (who is the noob now?)

First of all, if you consider yourself a classic cRPG fan, you should be playing this on Hard and above. No way a seasoned aficionado should be playing the exact same difficulty as the "filthy casuals/mainstream consolites," if we go by what you say. Most of the reviewers even said Normal was kind of closer to Normal-Easy and that tactics were almost not needed save for 2-3 encounters.

I guarantee you'll be dying more on Hard/Nightmare (there's one brutal encounter about 20 hours in where I just want to watch how complainers allegedly breeze through it on Hard/Nightmare - that should be good entertainment to see the party wipe outs). And this is why you have to up your game and use better positioning and combos this time around. While DA:O was great, we actually got away with a few safer, even lazier, tactics in DA:O if you really think about it.

This time, you cannot have your Tank play multiple roles and be a dual-wielder and archer on the side (you can but they'll be ineffective), or move around where he pleases. You can't randomly split the team up as much - or be my guest and do it anyways, and witness a faster party death with some of the more intense battles. Same goes for your Rogue Archer and Mage. In fact, I never understood why people complain about Mages dying so fast when you need to play them more defensively and positioned in the back behind the tanks, who should NOT always be randomly slashing and taking dmg and trading hits, praying the other guy goes down first. You need to block and build up guard, which means a second Warrior or Mages and Rogues intensify their focus damage on that one troublesome target. Some of this stuff is kind of RPG 101 stuff here.

I'm starting to wonder if people are complaining that the automated stuff isn't making life easier, when you should be more involved on your own in timing your attacks (that would be tactics). Winter's Grasp first, then detonate with a Rogue's Twisted Fang + flanking from Stealth = major damage. If you don't set this up properly, Twisted Fang does considerably less and is almost worthless at times. Same exact move, but two different setups depending on player knowledge. So are you blaming the game because it didn't read your mind in how to set up this incredible combo attack (and many others), which you should always be employing on tougher enemies?

The complaints about the difficulty of DA:I is kind of confusing. They're kind of saying two different, incompatible things here. So is the game too noobish and easy (since Bioware allegedly "dumbed it down"), or too hard since many are admitting to dying even on Normal? (who is the noob now?)

First of all, if you consider yourself a classic cRPG fan, you should be playing this on Hard and above. No way a seasoned aficionado should be playing the exact same difficulty as the "filthy casuals/mainstream consolites," if we go by what you say. Most of the reviewers even said Normal was kind of closer to Normal-Easy and that tactics were almost not needed save for 2-3 encounters.

I guarantee you'll be dying more on Hard/Nightmare (there's one brutal encounter about 20 hours in where I just want to watch how complainers allegedly breeze through it on Hard/Nightmare - that should be good entertainment to see the party wipe outs). And this is why you have to up your game and use better positioning and combos this time around. While DA:O was great, we actually got away with a few safer, even lazier, tactics in DA:O if you really think about it.

This time, you cannot have your Tank play multiple roles and be a dual-wielder and archer on the side (you can but they'll be ineffective), or move around where he pleases. You can't randomly split the team up as much - or be my guest and do it anyways, and witness a faster party death with some of the more intense battles. Same goes for your Rogue Archer and Mage. In fact, I never understood why people complain about Mages dying so fast when you need to play them more defensively and positioned in the back behind the tanks, who should NOT always be randomly slashing and taking dmg and trading hits, praying the other guy goes down first. You need to block and build up guard, which means a second Warrior or Mages and Rogues intensify their focus damage on that one troublesome target. Some of this stuff is kind of RPG 101 stuff here.

I'm starting to wonder if people are complaining that the automated stuff isn't making life easier, when you should be more involved on your own in timing your attacks (that would be tactics). Winter's Grasp first, then detonate with a Rogue's Twisted Fang + flanking from Stealth = major damage. If you don't set this up properly, Twisted Fang does considerably less and is almost worthless at times. Same exact move, but two different setups depending on player knowledge. So are you blaming the game because it didn't read your mind in how to set up this incredible combo attack (and many others), which you should always be employing on tougher enemies?

DAI is far more balanced, the only hiccup is that you can make Knight Enchanters of Vivienne with God barriers by combo of the specialization and the Spirit magic tree. Look for Bioware to patch that. Bioware nerfed ridiculous assassin builds in DA2.

Haha yeah I thought this was a bug. You can literally kill any boss or dragon by running up and just holding the designated 'soul blade' button down.

A game just needs production values and 95% of the gaming population with be clapping it's hands like seals.

First of all, if you consider yourself a classic cRPG fan, you should be playing this on Hard and above. No way a seasoned aficionado should be playing the exact same difficulty as the "filthy casuals/mainstream consolites,"

The game was designed for consoles and thus; thinking is removed.

My friend, everything required is explained in my post Reading other posts is a waste of time. Younger gamers these days do not understand what an RPG is.

what is this Divinity game and how come I never heard of it?

Haha...no.

If you consider yourself a classic cRPG fan, you'd be playing games like Original Sin, Wasteland 2, Shadowrun: Dragonfall, Grimrock 2, Lords of Xulima, Expeditions: Conquistador, Banner Saga...(as far as recent releases go)

Not AAAwesome action/cinematic newshit like Dragon Turds.

get over yourself cup.... your the biggest fakeboy around.

Dragon Age : Origins was a P*ss easy game even without using the tactics (which you can look at as a double edged sword.... as the lack of micromanagement made most fights automated and simple) ... sorry do you think your smart for setting basic a.i behaviours?

Divinity Original Sin is an isometric turn-based RPG with over 70hrs of content, all of which can be played co-op or solo. It currently has a metacritic rating avg of 87 (it's amazing), is a GOTY contendor on Gamespot, and the likely reason you've never heard of it is because it's a PC exclusive that is very, very unlikely to ever be released on consoles (the controls and the way you interact with the world would have to be thoroughly revamped), so it didn't get a ton of attention from sites like IGN.

It's 20% atm on steam , and it's also available on GOG if you don't like DRM.