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#1  Edited By deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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Graphics are fine at first, and KZSF has a tiny edge in very small places, but RYSE look like a damn movie, it's graphics are almost CGI like.

The bland bore fest is tired, it is time to RYSE.

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Its true, there is something about the visual quality of Ryse that makes it look very cinematic, like a movie. KZ has great graphics no doubt but its the way that the picture comes together in Ryse that gives it the advantage.

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#3  Edited By Netherscourge
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Because Launch Trailers aren't touched up or anything...

BTW - there's a REASON RYSE looks like a movie.

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#4 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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@Netherscourge said:

Because Launch Trailers aren't touched up or anything...

BTW - there's a REASON RYSE looks like a movie.

Cry.

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@Crypt_mx said:

Its true, there is something about the visual quality of Ryse that makes it look very cinematic, like a movie. KZ has great graphics no doubt but its the way that the picture comes together in Ryse that gives it the advantage.

Now the lems love movies! Great!.

Anyways it's a crytek game. Shiny Shiny Graphics. Terrible gameplay.

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#6 Dreams-Visions
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Huh.

Gameplay footage

vs

cinematic cutscenes and QTE's + 3 seconds of gameplay.

Ryse is the prettier game, but the intellectual dishonesty betrays any discussion that could be had. Why not post gameplay footage of Ryse and compare it to gameplay footage of Killzone? Or, why not compare scripted events directly with scripted events? It's like showing gameplay of Forza Horizon while showing replay footage of Gran Turismo 6 and using it to suggest GT6 looks better.

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@Animal-Mother said:

@Crypt_mx said:

Its true, there is something about the visual quality of Ryse that makes it look very cinematic, like a movie. KZ has great graphics no doubt but its the way that the picture comes together in Ryse that gives it the advantage.

Now the lems love movies! Great!.

Anyways it's a crytek game. Shiny Shiny Graphics. Terrible gameplay.

Crysis has terrible gameplay?

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#8 Chutebox
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Actual gameplay footage with cut scenes. Bravo

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@Netherscourge said:

Because Launch Trailers aren't touched up or anything...

BTW - there's a REASON RYSE looks like a movie.

Im not just speaking from that video, I've been watching Ryse footage since it was announced. Even the actual gameplay has a certain look to it. Crytek has done very well optimizing their engine to run that well on an X1.

This is also good for the future because they now have experience coding on the X1, the next Crytek game will look so much better.

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Its a Crytek game, post Crysis. We all know what it will be like.

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#11  Edited By deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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Updated with both trailers.

RYSE bones KZSF.

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#12 Netherscourge
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@Crypt_mx said:

@Netherscourge said:

Because Launch Trailers aren't touched up or anything...

BTW - there's a REASON RYSE looks like a movie.

Im not just speaking from that video, I've been watching Ryse footage since it was announced. Even the actual gameplay has a certain look to it. Crytek has done very well optimizing their engine to run that well on an X1.

This is also good for the future because they now have experience coding on the X1, the next Crytek game will look so much better.

It's not appearances that need to be upgraded in RYSE.

It's the 2-button gameplay that needs an upgrade.

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can't you leave kz alone?

it has one thing.

why you gotta take that away?

remember the hundreds of topics on killzones gameplay?

no, you don't, because nobody wants to talk about the gameplay.

remember the hundreds on its gfx?

yes, you do, because that was as deep as the conversation about kz has ever gotten.

can't we just let kz have that one little thing?

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#14 StriateEnd
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Crytek gonna Crytek. Pretty graphics shit game

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#15  Edited By Crypt_mx
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@Animal-Mother said:

@Crypt_mx said:

Its true, there is something about the visual quality of Ryse that makes it look very cinematic, like a movie. KZ has great graphics no doubt but its the way that the picture comes together in Ryse that gives it the advantage.

Now the lems love movies! Great!.

Anyways it's a crytek game. Shiny Shiny Graphics. Terrible gameplay.

Im always something new. On some websites im a lem, others im a hermit, sometimes im a cow. Whatever man, I said one nice thing about the graphics and you got insecure it seems. I own and enjoy all consoles, I just think Ryse has the best graphics between console games. And have you seen Ryse gameplay recently? its changed a lot since E3.

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#16 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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@Riverwolf007 said:

can't you leave kz alone?

it has one thing.

why you gotta take that away?

remember the hundreds of topics on killzones gameplay?

no, you don't, because nobody wants to talk about the gameplay.

remember the hundreds on its gfx?

yes, you do, because that was as deep as the conversation about kz has ever gotten.

can't we just let kz have that one little thing?

It has nothing to me, it is just homefront with a new engine.

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Crytek games look great, but Killzone is no slouch. They both look pretty good for launch games, guess it's too hard for people to give credit to both.

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#18 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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@-RPGamer- said:

Crytek games look great, but Killzone is no slouch. They both look pretty good for launch games, guess it's too hard for people to give credit to both.

I never dissed KZSF's graphics, it still looks very generic like any game before though, but visually, it is nice.

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#19 PernicioEnigma
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Ryse was destined to be the best looking launch title, it's made by Crytek after all...

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#20  Edited By Crypt_mx
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@AMD655 said:

@-RPGamer- said:

Crytek games look great, but Killzone is no slouch. They both look pretty good for launch games, guess it's too hard for people to give credit to both.

I never dissed KZSF's graphics, it still looks very generic like any game before though, but visually, it is nice.

Only the Sony fanboys in here are bashing games, most of us talking about Ryse never shit on KZ.

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@chikenfriedrice said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@Crypt_mx said:

Its true, there is something about the visual quality of Ryse that makes it look very cinematic, like a movie. KZ has great graphics no doubt but its the way that the picture comes together in Ryse that gives it the advantage.

Now the lems love movies! Great!.

Anyways it's a crytek game. Shiny Shiny Graphics. Terrible gameplay.

Crysis has terrible gameplay?

Crysis 2 and 3 are shite. Crysis is great.

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#22 TheTruthIsREAL
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@AMD655: please tell me what unique shooter you have played? Also, I thought games shouldn't be like movies? You have been salty these past couple of days. Js

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@TheTruthIsREAL said:

@AMD655: please tell me what unique shooter you have played? Also, I thought games shouldn't be like movies? You have been salty these past couple of days. Js

Salty? or just using my brain?

The last shooter to change anything for me was the original Crysis, and maybe Far Cry.

Call of Duty 4 gave us a great multiplayer.

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#24 Crypt_mx
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@Animal-Mother said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@Crypt_mx said:

Its true, there is something about the visual quality of Ryse that makes it look very cinematic, like a movie. KZ has great graphics no doubt but its the way that the picture comes together in Ryse that gives it the advantage.

Now the lems love movies! Great!.

Anyways it's a crytek game. Shiny Shiny Graphics. Terrible gameplay.

Crysis has terrible gameplay?

Crysis 2 and 3 are shite. Crysis is great.

C2 and C3 are just decent. I wouldn't say "shite" or actually bad. They are perfectly functional shooters, that use the unique nano suit to create interesting gameplay. Story is meh, online is decent, gameplay is good. Thats Crysis 2/3 imo.

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#25  Edited By deactivated-59b71619573a1
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lolCrytek

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Ryse "looks like movie" because that's exactly what a pre-rendered cutscene is.

The trailer for KZ did not look pre-rendered but I could be wrong.

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@ZombieKiller7 said:

Ryse "looks like movie" because that's exactly what a pre-rendered cutscene is.

The trailer for KZ did not look pre-rendered but I could be wrong.

Neither are.

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#28  Edited By TheTruthIsREAL
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@AMD655: You need a break off the forums to cook l down. Btw, I don't agree with your answers. Crysis to me looks like a generic sci-fi shooter.

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#29  Edited By lglz1337
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cant wait for uncharted ps4 you ready for a huge beatdown lemmings ?

and

cutscenes =/= gameplay

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#30  Edited By deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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@TheTruthIsREAL said:

@AMD655: You need a break off the forums to cool down. Btw, I don't agree with your answers.

Well i am in a normal mood, i am sipping irn bru with some music on, why would i need a break to cool down?

Listening to this currently...

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#31 kraken2109
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'Ryse is like a movie'

Yes, that's the problem.

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@lglz1337 said:

cant wait for uncharted ps4 you ready for a huge beatdown lemmings ?

and

cutscenes =/= gameplay

Same can be said for KZSF trailer.

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@AMD655 said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

Ryse "looks like movie" because that's exactly what a pre-rendered cutscene is.

The trailer for KZ did not look pre-rendered but I could be wrong.

Neither are.

There isn't more than 3 seconds of "gameplay" in that whole Ryse trailer (even if the whole gameplay is QTE, not much more than pre-rendered cutscenes anyway)

I know you console people make careers out of lying to fans about "next gen graphics" but don't try to snow me.

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@ZombieKiller7 said:

@AMD655 said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

Ryse "looks like movie" because that's exactly what a pre-rendered cutscene is.

The trailer for KZ did not look pre-rendered but I could be wrong.

Neither are.

There isn't more than 3 seconds of "gameplay" in that whole Ryse trailer (even if the whole gameplay is QTE, not much more than pre-rendered cutscenes anyway)

I know you console people make careers out of lying to fans about "next gen graphics" but don't try to snow me.

Because i am a console player.

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@Crypt_mx said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@Crypt_mx said:

Its true, there is something about the visual quality of Ryse that makes it look very cinematic, like a movie. KZ has great graphics no doubt but its the way that the picture comes together in Ryse that gives it the advantage.

Now the lems love movies! Great!.

Anyways it's a crytek game. Shiny Shiny Graphics. Terrible gameplay.

Crysis has terrible gameplay?

Crysis 2 and 3 are shite. Crysis is great.

C2 and C3 are just decent. I wouldn't say "shite" or actually bad. They are perfectly functional shooters, that use the unique nano suit to create interesting gameplay. Story is meh, online is decent, gameplay is good. Thats Crysis 2/3 imo.

Functional does not =/= fun I know they scored well. But I found them hard to play and have fun with. I tried really hard.

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#36 ReadingRainbow4
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you call KZ a bland borefest, and then mention Ryse? lol.

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#37  Edited By SuddenlyTragic
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Why are so many of you hating on Crytek? You clearly didn't play the original Far Cry (PC only, not that Far Cry Insticts bullshit that came out on consoles) or Crysis which were revolutionary in terms of gameplay and graphics. Sure Crysis 2 wasnt nearly as revolutionary as it's predecessors but it was still a great game that received great reviews. The only "bad" game they made was Crysis 3, although it wasn't necessarily bad in my opinion, just really should have been called Crysis 2.5 or come out as some sort of expansion.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

you call KZ a bland borefest, and then mention Ryse? lol.

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I like FPS shooters, just the usual COD ones.... no.

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Why are so many of you hating on Crytek? You clearly didn't play the original Far Cry or Crysis

Yeah that was ages ago.

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@AMD655:

I don't care what the haters say, I am really, really looking forward to Ryse.

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#41  Edited By Chutebox
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@StormyJoe said:

@AMD655:

I don't care what the haters say, I am really, really looking forward to Ryse.

Good, you shouldn't care what others say.

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#42  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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@Animal-Mother said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@Crypt_mx said:

Its true, there is something about the visual quality of Ryse that makes it look very cinematic, like a movie. KZ has great graphics no doubt but its the way that the picture comes together in Ryse that gives it the advantage.

Now the lems love movies! Great!.

Anyways it's a crytek game. Shiny Shiny Graphics. Terrible gameplay.

Crysis has terrible gameplay?

Crysis 2 and 3 are shite. Crysis is great.

Warhead was great also

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Insecure Fanboys. Always gotta Post Videos,or Screen shot.

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Serisouly? Another trailer with TSFH music? Its kinda getting cliche now

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@chikenfriedrice said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@Crypt_mx said:

Its true, there is something about the visual quality of Ryse that makes it look very cinematic, like a movie. KZ has great graphics no doubt but its the way that the picture comes together in Ryse that gives it the advantage.

Now the lems love movies! Great!.

Anyways it's a crytek game. Shiny Shiny Graphics. Terrible gameplay.

Crysis has terrible gameplay?

Crysis 2 and 3 are shite. Crysis is great.

Warhead was great also

Indeed it was. I have a tendency to forget about that title as I played through it once. But yeah the first two crysis games great.

the other 2 while ok pale in comparison.;

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@Animal-Mother said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@Crypt_mx said:

Its true, there is something about the visual quality of Ryse that makes it look very cinematic, like a movie. KZ has great graphics no doubt but its the way that the picture comes together in Ryse that gives it the advantage.

Now the lems love movies! Great!.

Anyways it's a crytek game. Shiny Shiny Graphics. Terrible gameplay.

Crysis has terrible gameplay?

Crysis 2 and 3 are shite. Crysis is great.

Warhead was great also

Indeed it was. I have a tendency to forget about that title as I played through it once. But yeah the first two crysis games great.

the other 2 while ok pale in comparison.;

I agree

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I bought Crysis 2, played 40 hours of it, but just fealt rather shallow and restricted, Crysis, and Warhead were miles better.

My lady absolutely loved Warhead :)

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IGN eurogamer and gamespot all agree Ryse had the best graphics lol

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@Animal-Mother said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@Crypt_mx said:

Its true, there is something about the visual quality of Ryse that makes it look very cinematic, like a movie. KZ has great graphics no doubt but its the way that the picture comes together in Ryse that gives it the advantage.

Now the lems love movies! Great!.

Anyways it's a crytek game. Shiny Shiny Graphics. Terrible gameplay.

Crysis has terrible gameplay?

Crysis 2 and 3 are shite. Crysis is great.

Warhead was great also

Indeed it was. I have a tendency to forget about that title as I played through it once. But yeah the first two crysis games great.

the other 2 while ok pale in comparison.;

Well that's what happens when you have to "consolize" a franchise designed for PC's. You have to compromise the open world approach to compensate for their limited processing power and VRAM. It's the only way to maintain a certain minimum level of graphical quality and fidelity. It's a zero sum game with consoles.

Crytek went for the console money with Crysis 2 and 3. Not sure if it was worth it to gut the open world feel of the franchise, but yea.

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I was watching heaps of vids on this last night, the seems to have an incredibly high level of production.