Creative Assembly targets 4th gen intel processor for Total War Rome 2

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#1 Posted by NoodleFighter (7804 posts) -

thank you intel

#2 Posted by SAGE_OF_FIRE (15589 posts) -
Isn't Haswell just a 10% improvement over Ivy Bridge.
#3 Posted by FPSfan1985 (2174 posts) -
Isn't Haswell just a 10% improvement over Ivy Bridge. SAGE_OF_FIRE
No way to know until they are released.
#4 Posted by arto1223 (4404 posts) -

Can't wait. Total War series is fantastic. Taking advantage of new hardware is a good thing. That's what continues the progression of the industry.

#5 Posted by Mr_BillGates (3186 posts) -

Current highend hardwares already obsolete. applause.gif

#6 Posted by SAGE_OF_FIRE (15589 posts) -

Current highend hardwares already obsolete. applause.gif

Mr_BillGates
Yep, my i5 2500k at 4.5ghz is obsolete.
#7 Posted by Mr_BillGates (3186 posts) -

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"] Yep, my i5 2500k at 4.5ghz is obsolete. SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Current highend hardwares already obsolete. applause.gif

SAGE_OF_FIRE

Yep, my i5 2500k at 4.5ghz is obsolete.


$1000+ PC already irrelevant. About 2 generations obsolete.applause.gif
#8 Posted by Magescrew (532 posts) -
Lol, any dual core CPU made since 2008 will serve you well even today unless you are hardcore.
#9 Posted by NoodleFighter (7804 posts) -

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Current highend hardwares already obsolete. applause.gif

Mr_BillGates


Yep, my i5 2500k at 4.5ghz is obsolete.


$1000+ PC already irrelevant. About 2 generations obsolete.applause.gif

Still significantly ahead of the PS4 :P :lol::cool:

#10 Posted by ChubbyGuy40 (26233 posts) -

My rig is not ready. Must upgrade to Haswell now. Thank you based Intel.

#11 Posted by Slow_Show (2018 posts) -

Uh, not only is this standard marketing bullsh*t, it's standard marketing bullsh*t for Intel's on-die GPUs. Nice if you're trying to run Rome 2 on a laptop or super cheap desktop and all, but totally irrelevant in terms of proper PC gaming rigs. 

#12 Posted by ronvalencia (15421 posts) -

thank you intel

NoodleFighter

It's similar to AMD's zero copy function on APUs.

#13 Posted by ronvalencia (15421 posts) -

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]That's just an euphemism for being too lazy to optimize the game :PChubbyGuy40

Nuh uh. It's teh power of teh Haswell and 16GB DDR3 + 4GB GDDR5! :P

Intel extensions only works with Intel Haswell IGP.

Intel InstantAccess is similar to AMD's zero copy function on it's APUs. PS4's AMD APU also has zero copy functions.

AMD's Order Independent Transparency example http://developer.amd.com/resources/documentation-articles/samples-demos/gpu-demos/ati-radeon-hd-5000-series-graphics-real-time-demos/

AMD's Order Independent Transparency whitepaper http://www.amd.com/la/Documents/CreoOIT_white_paper.pdf

AMD's single pass Order Independent Transparency (without sorting or multiple rendering passes) http://gamerendering.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/single-pass-order-independent.html

#14 Posted by tionmedon (468 posts) -

bac n july when i bought my alienware r-4 my system was top line 3960x,512 samsung ssd,and a sweet 690gtx, with the new hazwell coming out witch suppose 2 b better by 10% that means bioshock inf. @ 111 fps to 100 fps it`s not worth upgrading @ my age my eyes will not c the difference.............

#15 Posted by Sushiglutton (5426 posts) -
That's just an euphemism for being too lazy to optimize the game :P
#16 Posted by ChubbyGuy40 (26233 posts) -

That's just an euphemism for being too lazy to optimize the game :PSushiglutton

Nuh uh. It's teh power of teh Haswell and 16GB DDR3 + 4GB GDDR5! :P

#17 Posted by StrongBlackVine (9467 posts) -

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]
Yep, my i5 2500k at 4.5ghz is obsolete. NoodleFighter


$1000+ PC already irrelevant. About 2 generations obsolete.applause.gif

Still significantly ahead of the PS4 :P :lol::cool:

Not saying much...upgrade you pauper.

#18 Posted by bobbetybob (19296 posts) -

Uh, not only is this standard marketing bullsh*t, it's standard marketing bullsh*t for Intel's on-die GPUs. Nice if you're trying to run Rome 2 on a laptop or super cheap desktop and all, but totally irrelevant in terms of proper PC gaming rigs. 

Slow_Show
Yeah was gonna say, maybe people should actually watch the video, they're talking about the new integrated graphics not the power of the actual CPU's themselves.
#19 Posted by wis3boi (31830 posts) -

dat marketing

#20 Posted by CwlHeddwyn (5314 posts) -

so when are these new CPUs coming out then and will they make much difference compared to what's on the market right now?

#21 Posted by ronvalencia (15421 posts) -

so when are these new CPUs coming out then and will they make much difference compared to what's on the market right now?

CwlHeddwyn
Note that Intel Haswell is an "APU".
#22 Posted by CwlHeddwyn (5314 posts) -
[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]

so when are these new CPUs coming out then and will they make much difference compared to what's on the market right now?

ronvalencia
Note that Intel Haswell is an "APU".

and what difference will that make? surely the games will need a dedicated GPU to run?
#23 Posted by kraken2109 (13182 posts) -

I hope they're optimising better these days, not impressed that empire total war is only using 1 core of my cpu...

#24 Posted by RaZoR500 (349 posts) -

$1000+ PC already irrelevant. About 2 generations obsolete.applause.gifMr_BillGates

I love it when people like you mention the $1000+ PC and make sound like a bad thing. Most of you don't realise that some people easily afford a $1000+ PC every couple of years so I don't know what the problem is. Sure you can get a console and last an entire generation but why bother when most PC gamers afford the $1000 dollar price tag

#25 Posted by Kinthalis (5339 posts) -

Cool to see Creative Assembly pushing the envelope forwards and providing newer hardware with things to do. They also appear to be creating an engine that can scale down to intel APU's. Which is pretty impressive.

 

PS4 is already irrelevant, it seems.

 

Also, at 1:40... is that Patrick Stewart?!

#26 Posted by ShadowriverUB (5515 posts) -
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]

so when are these new CPUs coming out then and will they make much difference compared to what's on the market right now?

CwlHeddwyn
Note that Intel Haswell is an "APU".

and what difference will that make? surely the games will need a dedicated GPU to run?

No? APU's GPU is still good to run games and they running Rome II on it in video
#27 Posted by CwlHeddwyn (5314 posts) -
[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"][QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Note that Intel Haswell is an "APU".

and what difference will that make? surely the games will need a dedicated GPU to run?

No? APU's GPU is still good to run games and they running Rome II on it in video

interesting but will the GPU on the APU function when a graphics card is installed? or will it turn itself off?
#28 Posted by darksusperia (6943 posts) -
[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"][QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"] and what difference will that make? surely the games will need a dedicated GPU to run?

No? APU's GPU is still good to run games and they running Rome II on it in video

interesting but will the GPU on the APU function when a graphics card is installed? or will it turn itself off?

http://lucidlogix.com/product-virtu-mvp.shtml.
#29 Posted by bobbetybob (19296 posts) -
[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"][QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"] and what difference will that make? surely the games will need a dedicated GPU to run?

No? APU's GPU is still good to run games and they running Rome II on it in video

interesting but will the GPU on the APU function when a graphics card is installed? or will it turn itself off?

The AMD APU's can do hybrid crossfire with certain graphics cards (only up to like a 6670 I think, so nothing impressive). No idea about the Intel ones, it might have something similar.
#30 Posted by CwlHeddwyn (5314 posts) -
[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"] No? APU's GPU is still good to run games and they running Rome II on it in video

interesting but will the GPU on the APU function when a graphics card is installed? or will it turn itself off?

The AMD APU's can do hybrid crossfire with certain graphics cards (only up to like a 6670 I think, so nothing impressive). No idea about the Intel ones, it might have something similar.

all im saying is there's no point having a powerful GPU component of the APU sitting there doing nothing when you have a dedicated graphics card installed.
#31 Posted by adamosmaki (9763 posts) -

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Current highend hardwares already obsolete. applause.gif

Mr_BillGates

Yep, my i5 2500k at 4.5ghz is obsolete.


$1000+ PC already irrelevant. About 2 generations obsolete.applause.gif

the only think obsolete are those $2000 non upgradeable Apples. Oh wait you can upgrade but you need to spend $400 for a 3 year old gtx570. Thank you Apple for the huge choices
#32 Posted by adamosmaki (9763 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

http://www.evga.com/articles/00730/

There are other options for Mac cards. It's just an EFI firmware. Sapphire has a 7950 available as well.

Kinthalis

 

That GTX 680 is going to be $200+ overpriced by the time you can actually purchase it.

More like $150, judging from the aforementioned 7950, but such is the nature of not using the most common platform. I merely pointed it out because adam's assertion was wrong.

My assertion was not that modern GPU's arent available on MAC. I was pointing out that they are overpriced compared to what you get on pc ( since that known apple fanboy that lurks here he always goes "pc's are overpriced ) .

#33 Posted by GarGx1 (3020 posts) -

Nice to know Rome 2 will run well on Haswell powered laptops. Makes no difference to me, I'll be playing it on my desktop.

As for the 'APU' thing. AMD and Intel would both like to see the death of the dedicated graphics adaptor and get back to way it was pre 3d days. Eventually they may get there and we'll see a merger of Intel and Nvidia. However CPU's with the ability to do graphics like a high end dedicated card are still a long way off.

#34 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]
Yep, my i5 2500k at 4.5ghz is obsolete. adamosmaki


$1000+ PC already irrelevant. About 2 generations obsolete.applause.gif

the only think obsolete are those $2000 non upgradeable Apples. Oh wait you can upgrade but you need to spend $400 for a 3 year old gtx570. Thank you Apple for the huge choices

http://www.evga.com/articles/00730/

There are other options for Mac cards. It's just an EFI firmware. Sapphire has a 7950 available as well.

#35 Posted by Kinthalis (5339 posts) -

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]
$1000+ PC already irrelevant. About 2 generations obsolete.applause.giflowe0

the only think obsolete are those $2000 non upgradeable Apples. Oh wait you can upgrade but you need to spend $400 for a 3 year old gtx570. Thank you Apple for the huge choices

http://www.evga.com/articles/00730/

There are other options for Mac cards. It's just an EFI firmware. Sapphire has a 7950 available as well.

 

That GTX 680 is going to be $200+ overpriced by the time you can actually purchase it.

#36 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"] the only think obsolete are those $2000 non upgradeable Apples. Oh wait you can upgrade but you need to spend $400 for a 3 year old gtx570. Thank you Apple for the huge choices Kinthalis

http://www.evga.com/articles/00730/

There are other options for Mac cards. It's just an EFI firmware. Sapphire has a 7950 available as well.

 

That GTX 680 is going to be $200+ overpriced by the time you can actually purchase it.

More like $150, judging from the aforementioned 7950, but such is the nature of not using the most common platform. I merely pointed it out because adam's assertion was wrong.
#37 Posted by Kinthalis (5339 posts) -

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

http://www.evga.com/articles/00730/

There are other options for Mac cards. It's just an EFI firmware. Sapphire has a 7950 available as well.

lowe0

 

That GTX 680 is going to be $200+ overpriced by the time you can actually purchase it.

More like $150, judging from the aforementioned 7950, but such is the nature of not using the most common platform. I merely pointed it out because adam's assertion was wrong.

 

Well, he was only half wrong then. More modern GPU available, but still overpriced.

#38 Posted by kraken2109 (13182 posts) -

[QUOTE="Kinthalis"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

 

That GTX 680 is going to be $200+ overpriced by the time you can actually purchase it.

adamosmaki

More like $150, judging from the aforementioned 7950, but such is the nature of not using the most common platform. I merely pointed it out because adam's assertion was wrong.

My assertion was not that modern GPU's arent available on MAC. I was pointing out that they are overpriced compared to what you get on pc ( since that known apple fanboy that lurks here he always goes "pc's are overpriced ) .

I guess it's for mac pros too, doubt that would fit in an imac which is what most mac users own.
#39 Posted by JangoWuzHere (17150 posts) -

Lol, any dual core CPU made since 2008 will serve you well even today unless you are hardcore. Magescrew

 

That's not true, and I'm talking from experience. My old E8400 isn't going to do well with the games today and the future.

#40 Posted by savagetwinkie (7981 posts) -
[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"] No? APU's GPU is still good to run games and they running Rome II on it in video

interesting but will the GPU on the APU function when a graphics card is installed? or will it turn itself off?

The AMD APU's can do hybrid crossfire with certain graphics cards (only up to like a 6670 I think, so nothing impressive). No idea about the Intel ones, it might have something similar.

intel doesn't have dedicated cards to pair with, the best you'll get is the virtu gpu software which basically makes any GPU be able to be used.
#41 Posted by millerlight89 (18641 posts) -
My i7 hexa will eat this game up.