Consolites are too young to know it, BUT PC dominated since SNES

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#301 Posted by LazySloth718 (2345 posts) -

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

And you wont provide proof for your stupid claims.  It's about the same

clyde46

Proof of what?

That console games routinely sell 5+ mil?

If you think that's not true then you're delusional. Nobody can help you.

To determine whether that claim is true, you have to provide evidence to back up your claim... Debating 101.

It's not my job to provide a baseline knowledge that everyone should already have.

Do your own homework.

#302 Posted by clyde46 (47475 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

Proof of what?

That console games routinely sell 5+ mil?

If you think that's not true then you're delusional. Nobody can help you.

LazySloth718

To determine whether that claim is true, you have to provide evidence to back up your claim... Debating 101.

It's not my job to provide a baseline knowledge that everyone should already have.

Do your own homework.

Again, you have to back up claim up regardless of "how well known" you think it is. All you are doing currently use trying to use an opinion and pass it off as a fact. Its not my problem to dig up links to prove whether your claim is true or not as I see no evidence presented by yourself to support your claim.
#303 Posted by lostrib (42208 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

Proof of what?

That console games routinely sell 5+ mil?

If you think that's not true then you're delusional. Nobody can help you.

LazySloth718

To determine whether that claim is true, you have to provide evidence to back up your claim... Debating 101.

It's not my job to provide a baseline knowledge that everyone should already have.

Do your own homework.

Um actually it is, that's how arguments work

#304 Posted by LazySloth718 (2345 posts) -

Either way, he still needs to provide proof. And, please oh please, do not link VGChartz.

Primordialous

VGChartz is about as credible as "PC Gaming Alliance" to pretend PC gaming is growing.

Where's the Steam numbers?

#305 Posted by lostrib (42208 posts) -

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

Depends on what he's referring to- popular games like CoD, Battlefield, etc OR just console games in general.

 

Either way, he still needs to provide proof. And, please oh please, do not link VGChartz.

clyde46

Also, if we're talking exclusives then it's not routine either.  I think most PS3 exclusives struggle to  1 million +

 

http://metalgearsolid.nl/?p=3028

 

I think most PS3 exclusives sell well, its PS3 multiplats that bomb.

Yeah, but I dont think they're selling 5 million + routinely

#306 Posted by lundy86_4 (44210 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

Proof of what?

That console games routinely sell 5+ mil?

If you think that's not true then you're delusional. Nobody can help you.

LazySloth718

To determine whether that claim is true, you have to provide evidence to back up your claim... Debating 101.

It's not my job to provide a baseline knowledge that everyone should already have.

Do your own homework.

Link.

#307 Posted by clyde46 (47475 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

Also, if we're talking exclusives then it's not routine either.  I think most PS3 exclusives struggle to  1 million +

lostrib

 

http://metalgearsolid.nl/?p=3028

 

I think most PS3 exclusives sell well, its PS3 multiplats that bomb.

Yeah, but I dont think they're selling 5 million + routinely

Some do, some don't.
#308 Posted by LazySloth718 (2345 posts) -

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] To determine whether that claim is true, you have to provide evidence to back up your claim... Debating 101. clyde46

It's not my job to provide a baseline knowledge that everyone should already have.

Do your own homework.

Again, you have to back up claim up regardless of "how well known" you think it is. All you are doing currently use trying to use an opinion and pass it off as a fact. Its not my problem to dig up links to prove whether your claim is true or not as I see no evidence presented by yourself to support your claim.

Did Halo 4 sell over 5 mil?

Did UC 3 sell over 5 mil?

Did MW3 sell over 5 mil?

Did FIFA sell over 5 mil?

Did Gears 3 sell over 5 mil?

I'm not going to run down links for every argument, I might have to get those links again for the next jackass who needs "proof."

As I said, if you can't accept these basic facts then there is nothing to really talk about as you prefer to waste time instead of have a real argument.

#309 Posted by clyde46 (47475 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

It's not my job to provide a baseline knowledge that everyone should already have.

Do your own homework.

LazySloth718

Again, you have to back up claim up regardless of "how well known" you think it is. All you are doing currently use trying to use an opinion and pass it off as a fact. Its not my problem to dig up links to prove whether your claim is true or not as I see no evidence presented by yourself to support your claim.

Did Halo 4 sell over 5 mil?

Did UC 3 sell over 5 mil?

Did MW3 sell over 5 mil?

Did FIFA sell over 5 mil?

Did Gears 3 sell over 5 mil?

I'm not going to run down links for every argument, I might have to get those links again for the next jackass who needs "proof."

As I said, if you can't accept these basic facts then there is nothing to really talk about as you prefer to waste time instead of have a real argument.

They are baseless claims. What you are doing is passing off assumptions as facts. This is a real argument and in a real argument both sides have to provide evidence to support their claims.
#310 Posted by LazySloth718 (2345 posts) -

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Again, you have to back up claim up regardless of "how well known" you think it is. All you are doing currently use trying to use an opinion and pass it off as a fact. Its not my problem to dig up links to prove whether your claim is true or not as I see no evidence presented by yourself to support your claim. clyde46

Did Halo 4 sell over 5 mil?

Did UC 3 sell over 5 mil?

Did MW3 sell over 5 mil?

Did FIFA sell over 5 mil?

Did Gears 3 sell over 5 mil?

I'm not going to run down links for every argument, I might have to get those links again for the next jackass who needs "proof."

As I said, if you can't accept these basic facts then there is nothing to really talk about as you prefer to waste time instead of have a real argument.

They are baseless claims. What you are doing is passing off assumptions as facts. This is a real argument and in a real argument both sides have to provide evidence to support their claims.

Proof is provided daily.

And re-asked for daily.

I'm not playing the "waste your time" game.

Waste your own time.

#311 Posted by lostrib (42208 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

It's not my job to provide a baseline knowledge that everyone should already have.

Do your own homework.

LazySloth718

Again, you have to back up claim up regardless of "how well known" you think it is. All you are doing currently use trying to use an opinion and pass it off as a fact. Its not my problem to dig up links to prove whether your claim is true or not as I see no evidence presented by yourself to support your claim.

Did Halo 4 sell over 5 mil?

Did UC 3 sell over 5 mil?

Did MW3 sell over 5 mil?

Did FIFA sell over 5 mil?

Did Gears 3 sell over 5 mil?

I'm not going to run down links for every argument, I might have to get those links again for the next jackass who needs "proof."

As I said, if you can't accept these basic facts then there is nothing to really talk about as you prefer to waste time instead of have a real argument.

thats 5 games, how is that routine

#312 Posted by Jankarcop (10701 posts) -

Lazysloth is trolling.

#313 Posted by clyde46 (47475 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

Did Halo 4 sell over 5 mil?

Did UC 3 sell over 5 mil?

Did MW3 sell over 5 mil?

Did FIFA sell over 5 mil?

Did Gears 3 sell over 5 mil?

I'm not going to run down links for every argument, I might have to get those links again for the next jackass who needs "proof."

As I said, if you can't accept these basic facts then there is nothing to really talk about as you prefer to waste time instead of have a real argument.

LazySloth718

They are baseless claims. What you are doing is passing off assumptions as facts. This is a real argument and in a real argument both sides have to provide evidence to support their claims.

Proof is provided daily.

And re-asked for daily.

I'm not playing the "waste your time" game.

Waste your own time.

Then you have not a leg to stand on in this argument. All your opinions in this and any future thread are null and void.
#314 Posted by LazySloth718 (2345 posts) -

Show me proof that PC gaming is actually growing.

And don't use "PC Gaming Alliance" statistics.

Show numbers.

There, now we waste each others time.

#315 Posted by LazySloth718 (2345 posts) -

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] They are baseless claims. What you are doing is passing off assumptions as facts. This is a real argument and in a real argument both sides have to provide evidence to support their claims.clyde46

Proof is provided daily.

And re-asked for daily.

I'm not playing the "waste your time" game.

Waste your own time.

Then you have not a leg to stand on in this argument. All your opinions in this and any future thread are null and void.

My impact is already made.

See even Jangar is crying.

#316 Posted by Jag85 (5285 posts) -

Funny seeing how PC gamers demand proof, but refuse to give any proof themselves... Hypocrisy at its best.

#317 Posted by lundy86_4 (44210 posts) -

Show me proof that PC gaming is actually growing.

And don't use "PC Gaming Alliance" statistics.

Show numbers.

There, now we waste each others time.

LazySloth718

Did anybody claim that here?

Learn what "burden of proof" is, and get out of your six year old mentality of, "No, you!"

#318 Posted by lundy86_4 (44210 posts) -

Funny seeing how PC gamers demand proof, but refuse to give any proof themselves... Hypocrisy at its best.

Jag85

Stop generalizing. In this instance, proof is required, as Burden of Proof rest with Lazysloth.

#319 Posted by lostrib (42208 posts) -

Show me proof that PC gaming is actually growing.

And don't use "PC Gaming Alliance" statistics.

Show numbers.

There, now we waste each others time.

LazySloth718

the fact that steam concurrent useres continues to increase each year, and the number of steam accounts.  And that Steam continues to grow year over year: http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverchiang/2011/02/15/valve-and-steam-worth-billions/

#320 Posted by Jag85 (5285 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

Funny seeing how PC gamers demand proof, but refuse to give any proof themselves... Hypocrisy at its best.

lundy86_4

Stop generalizing. In this instance, proof is required, as Burden of Proof rest with Lazysloth.

Honestly, I've lost count how many times I've demanded proof for some of the outrageous claims made by PC gamers in this thread... yet not a single one of them ever provided any evidence. How disappointing.

#321 Posted by clyde46 (47475 posts) -

Show me proof that PC gaming is actually growing.

And don't use "PC Gaming Alliance" statistics.

Show numbers.

There, now we waste each others time.

LazySloth718

 

Where do you see the PC gaming industry in five years?
I think PC gaming is going to explode. Battlefield was founded on PC, so we feel very close to the PC community. With Battlefield 3, we've chosen to make our main SKU the PC version. Not that we're giving any less love to the console version, but the PC version needs to be true to its PC roots, and that's why we have PC-specific features, like 64 players. That in combination with the rise of e-sport community is something that we strongly believe in as well. This is the future. We have e-sports on consoles as well. I'm not dissing that in any way, but PC is probably the major platform for the e-sports community. And this is just starting to grow from being a subculture to becoming something much, much bigger. That's definitely going to be a kick-starter for PC gaming.

There's also the fact that the PC gaming platform itself is getting so powerful that you can do a lot more on it than the consoles. I'm not saying the console cycle is ending in any way, but it's getting toward the end. We're getting close to the limit of what we can do. We know that there's more power to find when we do more optimizations and when we have smarter solutions. We know by the end of console cycles that the games that were shipped at that time looked a lot better than games that were launched at the beginning of the cycle, and we're going to see that here as well. The closer we get to the end of the cycle, the games are going to run smoother, look prettier, and sound better. The fact that the PC platform can do so much more nowin five to 10 years, it's hard to imagine what you can do on the PC.

I would also argue that Apple is a force to be reckoned with because of their platforms. We don't have such a big core following there because they sell a lot of machines, but not all of them are powerful iMacs or the higher-grade machines. But I definitely think they are really catching up here, and I think we're going to see increased sales of their powerful machines. And when they get into a state where people want to play not ported games but ones that are native to their platform, I think that's going to help diversify this kind of gaming. For us, as developers [working on] the PC and Apple platforms, the Apple platform is actually easier because you have the same input device. Naturally, it's going to be a big challenge for us to get it running on a different operating system, but that aside, it's the same input devices.

There's one other thing I will point out as well, and it's a reason why I believe in the PC's future, and it's what I like to call the rise of the indie developer. I work for DICE, and we're a part of EA, but I'm really happy to see that there are so many indie developers that grow from being in a garage with one to two guys into a proper developer. The power that they now have to self-publish and do all of these kinds of things means the diversity of games on the PC is going to grow exponentially. It's going to explode. You might even argue it already has exploded. And this goes for the PC and Apple's platform too. This will probably happen more on the console as well, but it's a bit harder for a new developer to get in there and start doing things. The rise of the indie developer on the PC is definitely going to lead the way for this as wellto gain more people and accumulate more players on the PC platform.

Dice

http://uk.gamespot.com/features/the-state-of-pc-gaming-6333387/

#322 Posted by LazySloth718 (2345 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

Funny seeing how PC gamers demand proof, but refuse to give any proof themselves... Hypocrisy at its best.

lundy86_4

Stop generalizing. In this instance, proof is required, as Burden of Proof rest with Lazysloth.

I'll run down proof if you do.

Deal?

Show me proof that PC gaming is a viable platform.

I want to see sales numbers, including Digital Download, boxed, MMO, you name it.

If you do that, I will run down numbers for the last 20 console games that sold over 5 mil.

#323 Posted by lundy86_4 (44210 posts) -

Honestly, I've lost count how many times I've demanded proof for some of the outrageous claims made by PC gamers in this thread... yet not a single one of them ever provided any evidence. How disappointing.

Jag85

Haven't seen it. Also, if it isn't the individuals asking for proof, it isn't your issue. They are in the right. Burden of proof lies with Lazysloth, end of story. 

#324 Posted by lundy86_4 (44210 posts) -

I'll run down proof if you do.

Deal?

Show me proof that PC gaming is a viable platform.

I want to see sales numbers, including Digital Download, boxed, MMO, you name it.

If you do that, I will run down numbers for the last 20 console games that sold over 5 mil.

LazySloth718

I have nothing to run down proof for. I made no claims. Learn how the game is played, yo.

#325 Posted by LazySloth718 (2345 posts) -

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

I'll run down proof if you do.

Deal?

Show me proof that PC gaming is a viable platform.

I want to see sales numbers, including Digital Download, boxed, MMO, you name it.

If you do that, I will run down numbers for the last 20 console games that sold over 5 mil.

lundy86_4

I have nothing to run down proof for. I made no claims. Learn how the game is played, yo.

Then you have nothing to say.

Go bark at cars.

#326 Posted by lundy86_4 (44210 posts) -

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

I'll run down proof if you do.

Deal?

Show me proof that PC gaming is a viable platform.

I want to see sales numbers, including Digital Download, boxed, MMO, you name it.

If you do that, I will run down numbers for the last 20 console games that sold over 5 mil.

LazySloth718

I have nothing to run down proof for. I made no claims. Learn how the game is played, yo.

Then you have nothing to say.

Go bark at cars.

Lazysloth:

  1. Makes claim.
  2. Can't provide evidence.
  3. Attempts to troll.

areyouseven.gif

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Stop acting like a baby, yo.

#327 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

If PC wasn't a viable platforme, then why would there still be games on it...

#328 Posted by Primordialous (1313 posts) -

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I have nothing to run down proof for. I made no claims. Learn how the game is played, yo.

lundy86_4

Then you have nothing to say.

Go bark at cars.

Lazysloth:

  1. Makes claim.
  2. Can't provide evidence.
  3. Attempts to troll.

areyouseven.gif

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Stop acting like a baby, yo.

#329 Posted by xOMGITSJASONx (2634 posts) -

I started gaming when consoles made PC games look and sound like crap. I am 36 BTW. Point is who cares.

#330 Posted by Jag85 (5285 posts) -

Based on Wikipedia's best-selling games list (which appears to be reliably sourced), the number of 5 million+ sellers on each system this gen are:

Wii - 15

360 - 9

PC - 5

PS3 - 3

In other words, the Wii and 360 both had more 5 million+ sellers than the PC, while the PS3 appears to have had fewer 5 million+ sellers than the PC.

EDIT:

Slight correction... Change that to 5 for the PS3. The Wikipedia list doesn't take into account the total sales for MGS4 or Uncharted 2 (both of which exceeded 5 million), which was posted in this thread a few pages earlier. In other words, the PS3 and PC appear to be on par in terms of 5 million+ sellers.

#331 Posted by lawlessx (47147 posts) -

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

I'll run down proof if you do.

Deal?

Show me proof that PC gaming is a viable platform.

I want to see sales numbers, including Digital Download, boxed, MMO, you name it.

If you do that, I will run down numbers for the last 20 console games that sold over 5 mil.

LazySloth718

I have nothing to run down proof for. I made no claims. Learn how the game is played, yo.

Then you have nothing to say.

Go bark at cars.

you can't make a claim when you yourself can't provide the proof to support it.

#332 Posted by Primordialous (1313 posts) -

Based on Wikipedia's best-selling games list (which appears to be reliably sourced), the number of 5 million+ sellers on each system this gen are:

Wii - 15

360 - 9

PC - 5

PS3 - 3

In other words, the Wii and 360 both had more 5 million+ sellers than the PC, while the PS3 appears to have had fewer 5 million+ sellers than the PC.

EDIT:

Slight correction... Change that to 5 for the PS3. The Wikipedia list doesn't take into account the total sales for MGS4 or Uncharted 2 (both of which exceeded 5 million), which was posted in this thread a few pages earlier. In other words, the PS3 and PC appear to be on par in terms of 5 million+ sellers.

Jag85

And once again, sales =/= quality.

#333 Posted by Jag85 (5285 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

Based on Wikipedia's best-selling games list (which appears to be reliably sourced), the number of 5 million+ sellers on each system this gen are:

Wii - 15

360 - 9

PC - 5

PS3 - 3

In other words, the Wii and 360 both had more 5 million+ sellers than the PC, while the PS3 appears to have had fewer 5 million+ sellers than the PC.

EDIT:

Slight correction... Change that to 5 for the PS3. The Wikipedia list doesn't take into account the total sales for MGS4 or Uncharted 2 (both of which exceeded 5 million), which was posted in this thread a few pages earlier. In other words, the PS3 and PC appear to be on par in terms of 5 million+ sellers.

Primordialous

And once again, sales =/= quality.

Then why make a big deal out of it?
#334 Posted by lundy86_4 (44210 posts) -

Based on Wikipedia's best-selling games list (which appears to be reliably sourced), the number of 5 million+ sellers on each system this gen are:

Wii - 15

360 - 9

PC - 5

PS3 - 3

In other words, the Wii and 360 both had more 5 million+ sellers than the PC, while the PS3 appears to have had fewer 5 million+ sellers than the PC.

EDIT:

Slight correction... Change that to 5 for the PS3. The Wikipedia list doesn't take into account the total sales for MGS4 or Uncharted 2 (both of which exceeded 5 million), which was posted in this thread a few pages earlier. In other words, the PS3 and PC appear to be on par in terms of 5 million+ sellers.

Jag85

Whilst you are proving that it happens -- which wasn't contested -- you aren't proving that it happens routinely. Of the, nigh on thousands, of titles released this gen... 27 does not really convey a "routine" or "regular" occurrence.

#335 Posted by Jankarcop (10701 posts) -

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

Funny seeing how PC gamers demand proof, but refuse to give any proof themselves... Hypocrisy at its best.

LazySloth718

Stop generalizing. In this instance, proof is required, as Burden of Proof rest with Lazysloth.

I'll run down proof if you do.

Deal?

Show me proof that PC gaming is a viable platform.

I want to see sales numbers, including Digital Download, boxed, MMO, you name it.

If you do that, I will run down numbers for the last 20 console games that sold over 5 mil.

Why the top 10 and top 20 lists? Why don't we just see everything...

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PC beats any single console.

#336 Posted by lostrib (42208 posts) -

Based on Wikipedia's best-selling games list (which appears to be reliably sourced), the number of 5 million+ sellers on each system this gen are:

Wii - 15

360 - 9

PC - 5

PS3 - 3

In other words, the Wii and 360 both had more 5 million+ sellers than the PC, while the PS3 appears to have had fewer 5 million+ sellers than the PC.

EDIT:

Slight correction... Change that to 5 for the PS3. The Wikipedia list doesn't take into account the total sales for MGS4 or Uncharted 2 (both of which exceeded 5 million), which was posted in this thread a few pages earlier. In other words, the PS3 and PC appear to be on par in terms of 5 million+ sellers.

Jag85

How did you only get 5 for PC? or did you only count exclusives?

#337 Posted by mitu123 (154618 posts) -

Lazysloth is trolling.

Jankarcop

It's ZombieKiller's alt.

#338 Posted by wis3boi (31957 posts) -

This thread is cute.

#339 Posted by MakeMeaSammitch (4553 posts) -

u have been a virgin since the snes?

sad.

#340 Posted by KungfuKitten (21401 posts) -

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

PC games sold worse than console games tho.

The only PC games of the era that sold well were Doom (shareware version was much more popular than the "full" one) and Myst.

Unreal Tournament sold, like, 500k copies only.

Compare that to Halo which sold about 8 million copies on Xbox alone.

Also, I liked the SNES kiddy games more than PC games, at the time. (still do if I'm completely honest)

jhonMalcovich

Counter Strike was the most played game in the world when Halo was released.

Besides Halo was on PC too.

Ugh and Halo SUCKED! It sucked so bad. All this hype around it and it was so bad compared to other PC FPS's. I remember the level design and the controls of the buggy being especially bad.
#341 Posted by MBirdy88 (8999 posts) -

Settle down hermits.

You're supposed to entice people, not dry hump their leg.

"50 exclusives" and not one of them a system seller.

How sad.

LazySloth718
I don't think you know what a system seller is. Any game can be a system seller. alot of people upgraded to play Crysis, by NORMAL logical reasoning standards thats a system seller. MILLIONS have upgraded to keep up with world of warcraft's graphic enhancements, people have upgraded for guild wars 2, or even call of duties ect. You are comparing the standard definition of CONSOLEs to an OPEN SOURCE PLATFORM.... the fact that people are choosing PC over consoles means whatever game they are playing IS A SYSTEM SELLER. such a mis-used definition. 250k people currently playing DoTA 2 ... can't get that on consoles. or HoN or LoL, they are system sellers, people will play these religiously and in fact over the last 2-3 years HoN and DoTA's population has only INCREASED,.... yea, exactly, while everything except CoD on consoles dies off in 6 months. Those are system sellers. Those drag people away from call of consoles.
#342 Posted by theshadowhunter (2956 posts) -

I have never ran into anyone that thought that their xbox or ps3 looked better than PC IRL, maybe they game on it because their friends do and because they cant see past the price of the hardware for PC gaming ( they dont understand gaming is a lot cheaper in the long run for it because of digital sales)

 

Many of my friends that game on consoles love gaming on PC as well.. they prefer it but they just dont want to dedicate themselves to it.

#343 Posted by faizan_faizan (7868 posts) -

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="Jag85"] You serious? Ever heard of Nintendo before?Jag85

OK, NO X360 or PS3

In that case, why did you set the bar at 20 million for PS360 games but only 10 million for PC games?

You do know i did that for a reason? Stupid, The Sims 2 sold 20 Million, That's why.
#344 Posted by jhonMalcovich (5151 posts) -

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

 

So these titles are not system sellers. Dear god, then what is a system seller according to you, Mario in the Land of Rainbows RPG ?:roll:

  • Age of Wushu
  • Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs
  • Arma III
  • Company of Heroes 2
  • DayZ
  • Dont Starve
  • The Elder Scrolls Online
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Grim Dawn
  • Nuclear Union
  • Outlast
  • Path of Exile
  • Rise of the Triad
  • Scrolls
  • Slender: The Arrival
  • StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm
  • Survarium
  • Total War:
  • Trackmania 2 Valley
  • Wasteland 2

 

timbers_WSU

I'm more interested in The Last of Us and how Dust514 will work with Eve then any of those titles... PC is not the land of milk and honey yo make it out to be.

(This is coming from a HUGE starcraft fan who is kinda fed up with blizzard and as much as I want ESO to be good it dosnt look that way)

None of those titles are interesting to me either. I havent even heard of some of them. It is a bit flattering that Hermits care so much about console gaamers that we have to continuously check to see if they accidently inserted themselves directly into our butt canyons.

Jelly ? 

Amnesia and Slender are considered the scariest games of this gen. What horror games consoles have ? Resident Evil 6 ?:lol:

Rome Total War is considered by many as one the best games of all times. Many forecast the 2d installment to be immediate GOTY.

ARMA3 new engine will push PC graphics to the boundaries where Crysis 3 will look like an outdated game

Wasteland 2 is one of the most expected RPGs from which original Fallout took its inspiration.

The Elder Scrolls online. Who ever heard of Elder Scroll, right ? Totally unknown franchise.:lol: But I guess this is because consolites just don´t know what the word online means.:roll:

Nuclear Union, Fallout-style game but based on Moscow ruins. Doh, totally unexciting. ;)

Grim Dawn and Path of Exile, Diablo games made right, But, doh, Diablo is not system seller besides of those 10M who bought D3.

DayZ. Who likes Zombies anyway. 

I bet The Last of Us, 10-hour single player game, will totally make up for the lack of all those genres. :lol: 

#345 Posted by jhonMalcovich (5151 posts) -

Based on Wikipedia's best-selling games list (which appears to be reliably sourced), the number of 5 million+ sellers on each system this gen are:

Wii - 15

360 - 9

PC - 5

PS3 - 3

In other words, the Wii and 360 both had more 5 million+ sellers than the PC, while the PS3 appears to have had fewer 5 million+ sellers than the PC.

EDIT:

Slight correction... Change that to 5 for the PS3. The Wikipedia list doesn't take into account the total sales for MGS4 or Uncharted 2 (both of which exceeded 5 million), which was posted in this thread a few pages earlier. In other words, the PS3 and PC appear to be on par in terms of 5 million+ sellers.

Jag85

Honestly you just have lost all credibility. I went to wikipedia to check and found this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PC_video_games

There are a bit more than 5 games there.  We have a liar over here.

 

EDIT: Sales from digital distribution outlets such as Steam are not taken into account. So probably PC oversold any phisical copies consoles sales. Especially Skyrim.

#346 Posted by faizan_faizan (7868 posts) -
Crysis 3 will look like an outdated gamejhonMalcovich
Disagreed, As far as i know, Crysis 3 is the best looking vanilla game on earth
#347 Posted by jhonMalcovich (5151 posts) -

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Crysis 3 will look like an outdated gamefaizan_faizan
Disagreed, As far as i know, Crysis 3 is the best looking vanilla game on earth

In comparison to ARMA3, I mean. ARMA3 will be the most PC resources hungry game I know. Nobody wil be able to max it at launch, barring 2XGTX680 owners :D

#348 Posted by p4s2p0 (4167 posts) -
Sales from digital distribution outlets such as Steam are not taken into account. So probably PC oversold any phisical copies consoles sales. Especially Skyrim.jhonMalcovich
Consoles have digital distribution too though
#349 Posted by jhonMalcovich (5151 posts) -

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]Sales from digital distribution outlets such as Steam are not taken into account. So probably PC oversold any phisical copies consoles sales. Especially Skyrim.p4s2p0
Consoles have digital distribution too though

Did they have Skyrim with 60% off discount ? Or bundles of games for 5-10 bucks ?

#350 Posted by Jag85 (5285 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jag85"]

Based on Wikipedia's best-selling games list (which appears to be reliably sourced), the number of 5 million+ sellers on each system this gen are:

Wii - 15

360 - 9

PC - 5

PS3 - 3

In other words, the Wii and 360 both had more 5 million+ sellers than the PC, while the PS3 appears to have had fewer 5 million+ sellers than the PC.

EDIT:

Slight correction... Change that to 5 for the PS3. The Wikipedia list doesn't take into account the total sales for MGS4 or Uncharted 2 (both of which exceeded 5 million), which was posted in this thread a few pages earlier. In other words, the PS3 and PC appear to be on par in terms of 5 million+ sellers.

jhonMalcovich

Honestly you just have lost all credibility. I went to wikipedia to check and found this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PC_video_games

There are a bit more than 5 games there.  We have a liar over here.

 

EDIT: Sales from digital distribution outlets such as Steam are not taken into account. So probably PC oversold any phisical copies consoles sales. Especially Skyrim.

We are obviously talking about the current generation, not every single generation combined. Stop lying to yourself, mate.

EDIT:

By the way, the list I was referring to is this one here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games