Consoles that are inflated by nostalgia.

N64. The controller was a total nightmare, the catalog was really small, third-party was almost non-existant. You can name the 10 best games it has (Ocarina, Banjo, Mario 64, etc.) but that's it. Gamecube and SNES both had much more diverse first and third party both.

Dreamcast. It died for a reason. It was too weak to compete against the PS2, et al, but lacked the install base of older consoles.

Genesis. It was brilliantly marketed, but it was, contrary to popular opinion, weaker than SNES and relied on hardware expansions to stay alive.

Game Boy Color. It only lasted 3 years. Was only a marginal upgrade and only had a few good exclusive games for it.

Xbox. When online shut off, this console's library took a huge hit.

The NES and SNES are a MUCH worse case of being inflated by nostalgia than the N64, to the point that hypocrisies start,

CDi. When Phil Hartman died, so did this forward thinking console for casuals.

Nonsense, NES and SNES had the best libraries of any console until the PS1/PS2.

I'd say any Sony console after PS2.

PS3.

DC died because Sega was broke, Sony was huge and wealthy even making sure EA didn't support DC which at that time with no Madden and all their other titles was a death blow. Though NFL & NBA 2K pooped all over EA's sports games... that's the fact Jack. Still. if Sega had partnered with say MS back at that time they would have had all the cash to market and compete and we would likely be playing the DC4. :P

For their time, they were the best consoles on the market.

Save the library arguments. It means nothing considering that those are the first two consoles people cling to when it comes to Nintendo. Nevermind the fact that era of games was when Nintendo was business wise, at their worst, with their dictatorial ways of business from limiting game releases (which prompted companies like Konami to find a workaround) to censorship (Mortal Kombat and Wolfenstein 3D). Remember, that was dubbed Nintendo's best era and to this day, last I checked, everyone hates when Nintendo alienates third party devs.

Take it away, Ron:

Plus, like I said before, the hypocrisies.

The N64 easily. Some of those games are fucking garbage for starters, and it was so outclassed by the PS1.

Dreamcast

Very ambitious console with some cool games. However, it only lasted two years before it kicked the bucket. It was much better to simply wait and pick up a PS2.

For gameplay the snes, nes, and genesis are all better than modern consoles. Better designed games. It is why there is such a following to this day.

N64 also has some classics on pacman level.

N64. Loved it at the time and it's games were fun. I'd still argue that I enjoyed more games on it than on the Gamecube. But it wasn't this shit that knocked the competition into the water like some people would say. PS1 had more good games like PS consoles always have done. But I'd aslo say PS1 is another inflated console by nostalgia. That start up sound alone is extremely nostalgia enducing. Best console start up ever still.

I don't like this opinion.

N64 for sure. Never saw the appeal.

There's no popular opinion of that sort, the actual popular opinion is that the SNES was better in terms of hardware and software. Which i disagree with, they're roughly equal and excell at different genres of video games.

Works both ways sunshine.

@bobrossperm:

The best n64 games outclassed anything on psx

I agree. PS1 still had far more games I enjoyed the hell out of. And I consider the Spyro trilogy a tighter platforming experience than Rares games. And the levels had more scope. No Mario 64, but better than Banjo, know what I'm saying? It's fact. No argueing with me, no point.

@jg4xchamp:

Yes, but the PS1 was mediocore.

Megadrive, Snes and Playstation 1. While it's not a console, i would add Amiga 500 too.

Okay bud, let's just forget the library arguments in a thread that's about nostalgia for the consoles. I don't even know why you're trying to bring up this stuff about how Nintendo operated back in the NES/SNES days when it really has no relevance. It's like you just decided this'd be the place to drop your whole rant.

A system that had more games worth a damn is mediocre in comparison to a system with less games.

Only on System Wars.

N64

It was the PS1's lame ass cousin.

Overrated library and one of the goofiest fucking controller designs in history.

Not everything is bad in the N64, it came in a bunch of fun colors and editions ya know and has much more collector´s value than PS1.

Actually I´m trying to get a jungle green ( DK edition ) with a good looking box for the DK collection I´m creating ( one of my favorite Ninty characters ), I found one but the box looks like shit.

Yet, the PS1 had barely any games worth a damn.

Had the largest, most diverse library just to have 3 or 4 games that weren't awful.

Spyro was boring, I laugh at anyone who says otherwise. FF7 was garbage in comparison to FF6. Crash Bandicoot was merely decent. The only genuinely good games on that platform were MGS, Castlevania and Xenogears, everything else was plain bad.

N64 had a larger quantity of quality games.

I find many psx games I enjoyed to be quite mediocre today. I never understood the praise Final Fantasy 7 received. Even upon release the controls were very clunky and the directional design relating to the backgrounds was all over the place.

So.. Did the SNES. From day one.

Anyway NES/Dreamcast/2600 (As more time goes by people more and more don't know there were other consoles, such as colecovision, the console arguably more important for different reasons of course.)

Ah yes, "gameplay" like having horribly badly designed games with a "challenging" sticker on them to trick people into thinking those games are good. Good lord, really? Better than modern consoles?

This is an opinion.

Well, it's sure relevant in the modern era now (so much that it's affecting Nintendo to this day) and considering people love to bring modern crap into retro games (considering the games that have aged badly go on full blast) here.

LOOOOOOOOOL

Anyway cry all you want, N64 was the beginning of the end for Nintendo. U still mad N64 lost?

But yes N64 and SNES are inflated by nostalgia. (DC too...)

Putting it mildly. I owned a ps1 back in the day but give no shits about it today aside from a couple games. Saturn is awesome though.

@Suppaman100:

Must be hard being a cow when the PS2 was the only good console sony ever made.

@TigerSuperman: @TigerSuperman:

By far. There wasn't all this overblown cinematic or need to disconnect the player from the game every few minutes. The experience was the gameplay and the players ability to build skill at the given mechanic. There's crap on all consoles but the good stuff back then is far better designed from a gameplay standpoint.

Me neither, I remember selling mine to buy another PSX because my old one died.

LOL no it didn't.

The N64 had around 8-10 heavy hitters (Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Mario Kart 64, Star Fox 64, GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie).

And it had literally NOTHING else

@frank_castle: that's more than Xenogears, Castlevania and MGS

Thus the whole "larger quantity of quality games."

Fodderstation1 seems like an appropriate name.

N64. So many good games, so many good memories and it was my first home console. N64 is my nostalgia central.

does this really belong here?

Great Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were turd stains being paraded around by console players who didn't have access to the vastly superior first person shooters that were on the PC around that time.

The Banjo games and DK64 were boring ass rare collect-a-thons that weren't worthy of Mario 64's spit, much less the high praise they got. Smash Bros was a bare bones fighting game for children at the time, Mario Kart 64 is a racing game built entirely around design decision to mitigate that advantages of being the better player. Ocarina for all its land mark status is a celebration of tedious ass gameplay from the lame shallow combat to these dull unsatisfying puzzles that only seemed special because we were kids.

More or less if we both want to flaunt our opinions around we can both rip apart a bunch of games, more to it, I don't like Final Fantasy 7, I think it's a bad game. Mario 64, Paper Mario 64, Starfox, even Rogue Squadron are pretty rad, but I'd rather play Symphony of the Night, Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill, Resident Evil 2, Vagrant Story, Tekken 3 (before Tekken became super lame), Twisted Metal, Ape Escape, Suikoden 2, Final Fantasy Tactics, Valkyrie Profile, Darkstalkers 3 and the like. You would rather play games I didn't care for, which brings us right back to we share opinions the other one isn't fond of, sunshine.

So Aki wrestlers, superior Star Wars (Rogue Squadron, Shadows of the Empire, Episode I Racer, Battle for Naboo) games in comparison to PlayStation (Masters of Teras Kasi, Jedi Power Battles, Episode I: Phantom Menace, Demolition, and a horrible Dark Forces port), and the Turok games (namely 1 and 2) no longer count now?

It had more heavy hitter AAA-type games, but more QUALITY games?

LOL, no...just no.

The PS1 had a gigantic library of games that were at least solid, the N64's library was complete dogshit outside of the handful of Nintendo flagships like Mario and Zelda.

The N64 and Dreamcast.

Spyro was better than Crash Bandicoot. By a long shot. Liked them both though.

And no, the PS1's quantity of quality games was far far higher.

Agreed with bold.

I was still primarily a PC gamer around that time, I was playing games like AoE, CS, BG and Starcraft. I didn't care for Banjo or any console shooter myself either. I felt that OoT, FF7 and spyro, despite all the mindless praise, were actually terrible games.

Regardless of the size of the overall library, I just found that I liked a couple handful of games on one system over the other handful. MM, F-zero, starfox, mario 64 vastly outweighed Castlevania and MGS. In the end, that's all the "which system was better" argument boils down to.

You're using what is 25% give or take of the gaming market and generalizing it across like it's 80%. There's not that many of those games then what you keep thinking of. Your nostalgia is blcoking you.

To be fair a number of those games are forgotten, have aged badly and are now considered bad, or where bad in the first place, just went with the wow factor.

Alternative opinions don't interest me. Being objective, the PS1 had more shit worth playing. Don't care how it holds up today.

No this is subjective.