Console/PC Gamers whats your thoughts on the Steam Box?

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#1 Edited by ProtossX (476 posts) -

is it good enough to be a console next to your ps4/xbox one?

is it good enough to be a PC in your living room pc gamers?

or is it just meh and u dont want it

is the steambox hurting micrsofot or nah?

#2 Edited by jhcho2 (4372 posts) -

The Steambox is nothing more than a PC packaged as a console. It even shares the disadvantage of somewhat requiring the buyer to study various graphics cards to know the best value for money option. The best example is a GTX 780 vs GTX Titan. One was $600 and the other $1000, for only a meager 10% difference in power. I'll feel like a sucker if I bought the Titan version, since for $200 extra, I could possibly explore a GTX 780 SLI setup, which is so much more powerful than a single Titan.

Bottom line, I already have a PC for that, and I like choosing my parts based on my OEM preference. There's really no need for me to spend money to get a duplicate of my PC for my living room. I'll instead use that money to get the PS4 AND X1, and have the opportunity to play any game on any platform

#3 Posted by millerlight89 (18347 posts) -

It has no place.

#4 Posted by MonsieurX (29455 posts) -

Why would it be hurting M$?

#5 Posted by Muffin2020 (527 posts) -

It's just a PC running Linux? Or am I missing something?

#6 Posted by Basinboy (11046 posts) -

The model is a good idea. Getting the modding community, developers, and mainstream consumers is going to be tough without exclusive offerings.

#7 Posted by megaspiderweb09 (3686 posts) -

Its entry may be rocky but its potential could be realized 5yrs down the line. Overall i think its a potential disrupter for the console market especially

#8 Posted by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -

It's just a PC running Linux? Or am I missing something?

LOL, others have stated the same thing for Android 1.x...

#9 Posted by farrell2k (5785 posts) -

I think it is great and hopefully it convinces more of the big time publishers to make their games for Linux.

#10 Posted by syztem (7703 posts) -

It seems like it could be an upgrade for console gamers, but it's hard to say until somebody gets their hands on that controller.

#11 Edited by trugs26 (5285 posts) -

For me personally, it has no use. I already have a decent desktop computer which is dual screening with the lounge room TV. So if I really wanted to, I could play games on the bigger TV. But I sit so close to the monitor, that a 23" is big enough.

For the general consumer, sure. Sounds like a sneaky way of getting people into PC gaming. But whatever makes you happy. I'd personally recommend people to get a regular PC though, although I'd need to take a closer look at the specs and price point before I make that recommendation.

#12 Edited by curiousarman (70 posts) -

My current PC sucks, so, yea, i would like to buy a steambox than ugrading it myself

#13 Posted by CrumUnderMe (195 posts) -

i want to see it overtake windows but it looks like it will take years for that to happen. if you ask me they should have made the steambox in 2008-2009

#14 Edited by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

As a PC Gamer it makes me happy that more desktop peasants will get to experience the pinnacle of gaming bliss which is Home Theater Gamimg

#15 Edited by -RPGamer- (34283 posts) -

Wish it had windows, maybe it could actually run my games then.

#16 Posted by AdrianWerner (27982 posts) -

As a PC gamer I feel it's very meh. It's bassicaly crippled gaming pc with fraction of Windows's gaming library and pad, that while nice idea, will suck in PC-centric titles compared to mouse and KB and suck in console centric titles compared to 360 pad.

Even if I would want to put my PC in a living room I would just make my own build and just throw Windows Steam in Big Picture Mode, at most buying just the Steambox pad. Makes much more sense.

#17 Posted by CrumUnderMe (195 posts) -

As a PC Gamer it makes me happy that more desktop peasants will get to experience the pinnacle of gaming bliss which is Home Theater Gamimg

lmao pesants when hermits buy bmw's with their dad's cash and eat tacos that resemble STD books

#18 Posted by Maddie_Larkin (6318 posts) -

No real feelings towards it, it is a good solution for people WHO are intimidated by PC gaming, and it might be a good solution for those used to the console envioment.

The way I see it, the steambox might be the prototype of the NeXT kind of Console, where each former console maker simply has a service, and 3rd party will stand for the hardware, as the current console status is so unsustainable that it is not even funny. The lack of "walled gardens" will also be a benefit only wished for by those WHO are either insecure about choice.

So basicly, Take a look Lems and Cows, the steambox is what your beloved console makers are trying to make, just more advanced. Sheep are not really part of this given the consoles Nintendomakes does not try to imitate pcs to begin with, and Hermits take a look at what the possabilities exists here. A console/PC hybrid with pretty much all the advantages of a PC, yet made to go for those not willing to spend too much time and effort.

All in all it is a good exercise in testing new venues, I do not think it will change the World. I do fee llike it will Lead to what will change the World of gaming though. And no side of the fence is going to like it very much.

#19 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

Lol HH mad

#20 Edited by CrumUnderMe (195 posts) -
#21 Edited by millerlight89 (18347 posts) -

@Basinboy said:

The model is a good idea. Getting the modding community, developers, and mainstream consumers is going to be tough without exclusive offerings.

It needs exclusives.

#22 Edited by Grey_Eyed_Elf (3691 posts) -

I don't get it.

  1. PC gamers have a gaming PC that they can already hook up to TV's if they wanted to... Most don't because they would rather have a higher resolution monitor or a faster monitor over a TV.
  2. Console gamers already think PC's are expensive... Why would a expensive steam box appeal to them?

Personally I think they are just wasting their time and I am not even going to get into the marketing they would need to use in order to catch enough momentum to get the attention of publishers.

If they had a big launch press conference with 2-3 SKU's for different budgets, have developers talk about the benifits and so on... With gaming and non gaming press attending I and many other's could be swayed into the hype to buy something that you can already do.

Unfortunately its announcement was... Erm poor and has 0% of a chance of actually being a choice or enough of one that would catch the attention of average joe.

Its a waste of time.

Valve need to give us HL3 and shut the f*** up.

No one wanted this.

Anyone want a Steam box?... ever used lego?... Buy some parts and put it together and install a OS. Then install Avast and then install Steam. Connect it to your TV... Buy a 360 controller then sit on your couch and play a game.

#23 Posted by CrumUnderMe (195 posts) -

i dont install avast or any anti virus. it makes me feel rebellious. like going to a bar during happy hour and proud to be carrying no condom

#24 Edited by -Unreal- (24535 posts) -

My thoughts?

It's not called a Steam box.

It'll provide a nice, powerful pre-built system option for people who are not familiar with PC hardware and in a small size.

It'll encourage PC chasis engineers to create new designs based on small form-factors.

It'll encourage new ways of fitting PCI-E devices.

#25 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -
#26 Edited by jhcho2 (4372 posts) -

@-Unreal- said:

My thoughts?

It's not called a Steam box.

It'll provide a nice, powerful pre-built system option for people who are not familiar with PC hardware and in a small size.

It'll encourage PC chasis engineers to create new designs based on small form-factors.

It'll encourage new ways of fitting PCI-E devices.

Those who are not familiar with PC hardware will be hard pressed to decide which Steam Box variant to buy.

Points 2 and 3 apply to any console, not just the Steam Box. It's motivated by the fact that you're not using off-the-shelf products.

#27 Posted by lostrib (34153 posts) -

As a PC Gamer it makes me happy that more desktop peasants will get to experience the pinnacle of gaming bliss which is Home Theater Gamimg

...they can already do that

#28 Edited by soulitane (13429 posts) -

@jhcho2 said:

@-Unreal- said:

My thoughts?

It's not called a Steam box.

It'll provide a nice, powerful pre-built system option for people who are not familiar with PC hardware and in a small size.

It'll encourage PC chasis engineers to create new designs based on small form-factors.

It'll encourage new ways of fitting PCI-E devices.

Those who are not familiar with PC hardware will be hard pressed to decide which Steam Box variant to buy.

Points 2 and 3 apply to any console, not just the Steam Box. It's motivated by the fact that you're not using off-the-shelf products.

Not really, people will go with the normal thing of "the most expensive is the best", hence why Alienwares still sell.

On topic, I see no real benefit for it of present, but it may help push linux as a viable OS for gaming.

#29 Posted by CrumUnderMe (195 posts) -

can pc gamers also stop being conceited and get in a shower?

#30 Edited by ronvalencia (15109 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@GioVela2010 said:

As a PC Gamer it makes me happy that more desktop peasants will get to experience the pinnacle of gaming bliss which is Home Theater Gamimg

...they can already do that

Out of the box, Xbox 360 controller can NOT control Windows 8.1's metro/modern UI.

#31 Posted by lostrib (34153 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@GioVela2010 said:

As a PC Gamer it makes me happy that more desktop peasants will get to experience the pinnacle of gaming bliss which is Home Theater Gamimg

...they can already do that

Out of the box, Xbox 360 controller can NOT control Windows 8.1's metro/modern UI.

whoopty doo

#32 Posted by lostrib (34153 posts) -

can pc gamers also stop being conceited and get in a shower?

what are you talking about?

#33 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@GioVela2010 said:

As a PC Gamer it makes me happy that more desktop peasants will get to experience the pinnacle of gaming bliss which is Home Theater Gamimg

...they can already do that

No shit? I do it myself. I'm part of the pinnacle of gaming.

I'm just glad more desktop peasants will join me thanks to Valve

#34 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@CrumUnderMe said:

can pc gamers also stop being conceited and get in a shower?

what are you talking about?

I think he's saying you smell

#35 Posted by -Unreal- (24535 posts) -

@jhcho2 said:

@-Unreal- said:

My thoughts?

It's not called a Steam box.

It'll provide a nice, powerful pre-built system option for people who are not familiar with PC hardware and in a small size.

It'll encourage PC chasis engineers to create new designs based on small form-factors.

It'll encourage new ways of fitting PCI-E devices.

Those who are not familiar with PC hardware will be hard pressed to decide which Steam Box variant to buy.

Points 2 and 3 apply to any console, not just the Steam Box. It's motivated by the fact that you're not using off-the-shelf products.

It's fairly self explanitory. Price to performance. Not only that but it doesn't differ from the current market of users who buy pre-built systems with a lack of PC hardware knowledge.

Points 2 and 3 are related to PC gaming, not console gaming. If someone wants to play console games on a console, they won't buy a Steam OS based system so bringing that up isn't relevant.

It's not called a Steam Box.

#36 Posted by CrumUnderMe (195 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@CrumUnderMe said:

can pc gamers also stop being conceited and get in a shower?

what are you talking about?

I think he's saying you smell

he smells like a mexican apartment building and someone is cooking

#37 Edited by jhcho2 (4372 posts) -

@jhcho2 said:

@-Unreal- said:

My thoughts?

It's not called a Steam box.

It'll provide a nice, powerful pre-built system option for people who are not familiar with PC hardware and in a small size.

It'll encourage PC chasis engineers to create new designs based on small form-factors.

It'll encourage new ways of fitting PCI-E devices.

Those who are not familiar with PC hardware will be hard pressed to decide which Steam Box variant to buy.

Points 2 and 3 apply to any console, not just the Steam Box. It's motivated by the fact that you're not using off-the-shelf products.

Not really, people will go with the normal thing of "the most expensive is the best", hence why Alienwares still sell.

On topic, I see no real benefit for it of present, but it may help push linux as a viable OS for gaming.

Alienwares do sell. But I thought only suckers buy Alienware.

#38 Posted by Cobra_nVidia (1434 posts) -

As a PC Gamer ...

Why make a claim no one is stupid enough to believe?

I don't even have my consoles hooked up to a TV. Why would I? I have an ASUS 144 Hz 1 ms gaming monitor...there's no such thing as a gaming TV

#39 Posted by Kenny789 (10215 posts) -

I like the idea only because I have no idea how to build a PC. I always seek the PC Boards whenever I plan on upgrading :p

#40 Posted by NFJSupreme (5146 posts) -

If I didn't have a PC i'd buy this over the xbone no doubt and it would a tough choice between this and the PS4.

#41 Posted by GoldenElementXL (2747 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@GioVela2010 said:

As a PC Gamer it makes me happy that more desktop peasants will get to experience the pinnacle of gaming bliss which is Home Theater Gamimg

...they can already do that

No shit? I do it myself. I'm part of the pinnacle of gaming.

I'm just glad more desktop peasants will join me thanks to Valve

You aren't part of the pinnacle of anything if you are still running a single 670. Or does the Plasma TV turn that card into a 3 way 780ti setup?

#42 Edited by Grey_Eyed_Elf (3691 posts) -

@GoldenElementXL said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@lostrib said:

@GioVela2010 said:

As a PC Gamer it makes me happy that more desktop peasants will get to experience the pinnacle of gaming bliss which is Home Theater Gamimg

...they can already do that

No shit? I do it myself. I'm part of the pinnacle of gaming.

I'm just glad more desktop peasants will join me thanks to Valve

You aren't part of the pinnacle of anything if you are still running a single 670. Or does the Plasma TV turn that card into a 3 way 780ti setup?

Scientifically it has been proven that the number is roughly 1337% better than other forms of display so you would essentially need a GPU 1337% faster than a GTX 670 in order to get the same experience as that on any other form of display.

For example if you you were running a game on low settings on a LCD it would look bad but if you were running it on low settings on a plasma what you would be experiencing is essentially what you would get if you were playing a game on ultra settings on a LCD.

Science.

#43 Edited by starwolf474 (548 posts) -

I don't understand what audience the Steam Machine is supposed to appeal to. I can't see many console gamers choosing it over the Xbox One and PS4, and I can't see PC gamers buying it over just building their own gaming PC.

The only audience I can see it selling to are people that are much more interested in PC exclusive games than console exclusive games, but have no idea how to build their own PC, which I think is a very small audience. I'm expecting it to flop.

#44 Posted by Headfcuk (20 posts) -

I'll echo what I said in another thread. The controller is certainly interesting, but the hardware does nothing to entice the console gamer. Its still a case of fragmentation being a major issue, IMO one of a consoles strengths is not having varied strengths and powers of system. A game on a console will play exactly as intended, with the Steambox you have the same issue as a normal PC, with regard to differing specs. Then the upgrading etc begins. I just see the Steambox as a completely pointless product.

#45 Posted by Cyberdot (3518 posts) -

I think it's a great move as it will attract people who don't want to open the hardware and figgle with the innards and the operating system, aka console gamers (lulz), and it could encourage developers to make their games compatible with Linux which is also a great move considering how many dicks Windows is sucking right now.

#46 Edited by Wasdie (49600 posts) -

It don't really effect me at all. I can count on one hand the amount of times in the past 3 years I really wanted to play my PC games in my living room.

It's not a game console and it's not trying to compete against the PS4/Xbox One/WiiU. In order to get the most out of it you need to already own a gaming PC and then have a decent home network. Even if you get a super powerful Steam Machine, for the first few years you'll be extremely limited on what you can play natively on the device.

Furthermore the controller is an interesting concept, but the goal of having steam controller players play with mouse and keyboard users is just a fantasy. Even if the new controller allows for a higher degree of accuracy than a standard analog stick based controller, it will still lack the responsiveness of a mouse and keyboard and will be lacking in competitive environments.

#47 Edited by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -

I already have a PC, so I have no use for it.

#48 Edited by Jamex1987 (2186 posts) -

Sales wise the steam box is going to be a major flop. People are buying laptops and tablets these days not desktop computers.

#49 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

As a PC Gamer ...

Why make a claim no one is stupid enough to believe?

I don't even have my consoles hooked up to a TV. Why would I? I have an ASUS 144 Hz 1 ms gaming monitor...there's no such thing as a gaming TV

meh my Home THeater setup is better. 60" Plasma and 5k Dollar audio System, which includes a $1600 subwoofer which shakes the whole house when firing shotguns and throwing grenades.

#50 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

@GioVela2010 said:

@lostrib said:

@GioVela2010 said:

As a PC Gamer it makes me happy that more desktop peasants will get to experience the pinnacle of gaming bliss which is Home Theater Gamimg

...they can already do that

No shit? I do it myself. I'm part of the pinnacle of gaming.

I'm just glad more desktop peasants will join me thanks to Valve

You aren't part of the pinnacle of anything if you are still running a single 670. Or does the Plasma TV turn that card into a 3 way 780ti setup?

That's your opinion. It is of my opinion that your setup is shit unless you have high end speakers, and a subwoofer capable of shaking the house. (12hz @ 100db is amazing)

60 FPS @ 1080p on the best TV for your money of 2013 gets the job done visually. But the audio is always just as important.