Console gamers are you terrified?

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Edited 2 years, 9 months ago

Poll: Console gamers are you terrified? (65 votes)

Yes 31%
No 69%

I know many of you here love arguing on witch of the new consoles have better GPU, etc. But are you terrified with the upcoming GPU's from AMD and nvidia?

Note: All GPUs are from AMD so specs can be directly compared.

Wii U - GPUXBOX ONE - GPUPS4 - GPU
550MHz853MHz800MHz
5 CUs (320 ALUs)12 CUs (768 ALUs)18 CUs (1152 ALUs)
8 ROPS16 ROPS32 ROPS
16 TMUs48 TMUs72 TMUs
0.35 TFLOPS1.31 TFLOPS1.84 TFLOPS
4.4 GPix/s13.6 GPix/s25.6 GPix/s
8.8 GTex/s40.9 GTex/s57.6 GTex/s

12.8GB/s DDR3

(2GB shared with CPU)

(1GB reserved for OS)

68GB/s DDR3

(8GB shared with CPU)

(?GB reserved for OS)

176GB/s GDDR5

(8GB shared with CPU)

(?GB reserved for OS)

2x70GB/s eDRAM (32MB)2x109GB/s eSRAM (32MB)N/A

VS

R9 390X (high-end)R9 380X (mid-range)R9 290X (high-end now)
1000MHz920MHz1000MHz
66 CUs (4224 ALUs)48 CUs (3072 ALUs)44 CUs (2816 ALUs)
96 ROPs72 ROPs64 ROPs
264 TMUs192 TMUs176 TMUs
8.44 TFLOPS5.65 TFLOPS5.63 TFLOPS
96.0 GPix/s66.2 GPix/s64.0 GPix/s
264.0 GTex/s176.6 GTex/s176.0 GTex/s
448GB/s GDDR5 (4GB)288GB/s GDDR5 (3GB)320GB/s GDDR5 (4GB)

Total annihilation in to the console land.

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#1 Edited by Spartan070 (16402 posts) -

Nope.

I'll be too busy playing Destiny to care...

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#2 Posted by SolidTy (49937 posts) -

This happens every generation...PCs get new parts, consoles remain static. *yawn*

No, I'm not scared. Plus, I have four gaming PCs, but this news doesn't impact me at all if I had been a console only gamer.

It will be forgotten by morning...probably in the next two minutes.

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#3 Posted by j2zon2591 (2871 posts) -

Nope. Not a console-only gamer tho.

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#4 Posted by MK-Professor (4131 posts) -

Lets see if a R9 390X with a nice OC can reach around 10 TFLOPS. Becasue I am planing to get 2 390X overclock them and get 20 TFLOPS.

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#5 Edited by GrenadeLauncher (6843 posts) -

I'd welcome a short generation this time around tbh.

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#6 Posted by jake44 (2085 posts) -

@j2zon2591 said:

Nope. Not a console-only gamer tho.

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#7 Posted by zeeshanhaider (5251 posts) -

Of course they are. They are pissing their pants already and the funny thing is maxwell haven't even released yet.

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#10 Posted by Nightflash28 (2281 posts) -

Yeah, i'll be terrified of playing all those great exclusives in the next 5-7 years while not caring for fanboys measuring their e-peens and justifying spending more money on a graphics card alone than console.

Look, I've spent quite some money on gaming rigs in the past 20 years. 2 years ago I built a new PC which was pretty for its time. the only game I ever played that came close to maxing it out was Crysis 2, which was a really boring game. I know people here are ragging on Killzone for whatever silly graphics debate. Truth is I had much more fun with that title on the PS4 than with Crysis 2 on my PC at max settings.

The games I've played the most on my PC recently were Dota, Counter Strike GO, Starcraft 2, Starbound... none of them are graphically demanding in any way, so I wonder more and more why I needed an i7 and a GTX680 when it just came out?

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#11 Edited by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -

this or maxwell.

and yeah with all those tflops i'm going hoping i'll be terafied.

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#12 Posted by KillzoneSnake (2057 posts) -

Not at all. I think KZSF was the graphics king last year and this year will be The Order 1886.

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#13 Posted by Evo_nine (2166 posts) -

@KillzoneSnake said:

Not at all. I think KZSF was the graphics king last year and this year will be The Order 1886.

30fps lol

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#14 Posted by KillzoneSnake (2057 posts) -

@Evo_nine said:

@KillzoneSnake said:

Not at all. I think KZSF was the graphics king last year and this year will be The Order 1886.

30fps lol

Actually 30+.

Does 60fps make graphics look better? lol nice try :)

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#15 Edited by freedomfreak (49034 posts) -

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#16 Posted by BattleSpectre (7989 posts) -

@MK-Professor said:

Lets see if a R9 390X with a nice OC can reach around 10 TFLOPS. Becasue I am planing to get 2 390X overclock them and get 20 TFLOPS.

Could you please tell me where you live? So I can come and rob you, thank you.

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#17 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (4648 posts) -

Why am I supposed to be terrified?

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#18 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1454 posts) -

And still the majority of all PC games will be developed with console hardware in mind.

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#19 Posted by BattleSpectre (7989 posts) -

Also how much will these cards cost? Here in Australia the 390x will be over $1000. Thanks, but no thanks I'll stick to a GTX 780 ;)

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#20 Edited by Evo_nine (2166 posts) -

@KillzoneSnake said:

@Evo_nine said:

@KillzoneSnake said:

Not at all. I think KZSF was the graphics king last year and this year will be The Order 1886.

30fps lol

Actually 30+.

Does 60fps make graphics look better? lol nice try :)

so....what is it....32fps???

no I guess it doesn't make the graphics "look" better, but it plays a hell of a lot better. You can have a great looking game running at 1fps using that logic.

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#21 Posted by PinkieWinkie (1454 posts) -

@Evo_nine: A locked 30 fps game runs and plays perfectly fine.

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#22 Posted by BattleSpectre (7989 posts) -

@Evo_nine said:

@KillzoneSnake said:

@Evo_nine said:

@KillzoneSnake said:

Not at all. I think KZSF was the graphics king last year and this year will be The Order 1886.

30fps lol

Actually 30+.

Does 60fps make graphics look better? lol nice try :)

so....what is it....32fps???

no I guess it doesn't make the graphics "look" better, but it plays a hell of a lot better. You can have a great looking game running at 1fps using that logic.

No you can't. The game would crash at 1fps and there'd be nothing "great" to look at. Come at me bro (lol).

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#23 Edited by kipsta77 (1119 posts) -

Console gamers, you guys should be shitting bricks.

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#24 Posted by thehig1 (5577 posts) -

@SolidTy: if you a console gamer why on earth do you have 4 gaming PC's.

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#25 Edited by MK-Professor (4131 posts) -
@BattleSpectre said:

Also how much will these cards cost? Here in Australia the 390x will be over $1000. Thanks, but no thanks I'll stick to a GTX 780 ;)

I can find a r9 290x with a triple fan cooler for €430 or €20-30 cheaper with the standard cooler. I don't see a reason on why the r9 390x will be different, after all it is replacing the 290x.

Also if the trend remain the same the r9 390 should be only 15% slower and 25-30% cheaper than the r9 390x, making the r9 390 a better buy.

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#26 Posted by LJS9502_basic (158427 posts) -

Oh for fucks sake....it's the games that matter.

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#27 Posted by Kinthalis (5502 posts) -

Of course they are. They certianly aren't going to say so in system wars though.

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#28 Edited by Blabadon (32767 posts) -

Yawn

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#29 Posted by LJS9502_basic (158427 posts) -

@Kinthalis said:

Of course they are. They certianly aren't going to say so in system wars though.

That's a stupid comment. I still play games on old consoles and have fun doing it.

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#30 Edited by BattleSpectre (7989 posts) -

@MK-Professor said:
@BattleSpectre said:

Also how much will these cards cost? Here in Australia the 390x will be over $1000. Thanks, but no thanks I'll stick to a GTX 780 ;)

I can find a r9 290x with a triple fan cooler for €430 or €20-30 cheaper with the standard cooler. I don't see a reason on why the r9 390x will be different, after all it is replacing the 290x.

Also if the trend remain the same the r9 390 should be only 15% slower and 25-30% cheaper than the r9 390x, making the r9 390 a better buy.

Like I said here in Australia it's not worth it. $699 for the R9 290x or you can have the lightning edition for $889. The 390x will easily be $1000 if not more when it launches here. GTX 780 all the way baby.

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#31 Posted by finalstar2007 (27850 posts) -

Couldnt care less, i'll be too busy playing the games on the PS4/PS3/Vita to care what AMD is producing.

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#32 Posted by MK-Professor (4131 posts) -
@LJS9502_basic said:

Oh for fucks sake....it's the games that matter.

We kind of playing the same games, aren't the 95% of games multiplats?

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#33 Posted by LJS9502_basic (158427 posts) -

@MK-Professor said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Oh for fucks sake....it's the games that matter.

We kind of playing the same games, aren't the 95% of games multiplats?

My point

Your head

Anyway most muliti plats are not a vast difference if the devs are any good. It's kind of a silly argument. Besides....for the cost of upgrading a console gamer can buy a shit load of games to play. While the PC gamer....has a higher end PC. I really find these arguments ridiculous. Play games....have fun. It's not like a console looks like an Atari and chugs. They look and play within the same basic era.

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#34 Edited by MK-Professor (4131 posts) -
@LJS9502_basic said:

@MK-Professor said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Oh for fucks sake....it's the games that matter.

We kind of playing the same games, aren't the 95% of games multiplats?

My point

Your head

Anyway most muliti plats are not a vast difference if the devs are any good. It's kind of a silly argument. Besides....for the cost of upgrading a console gamer can buy a shit load of games to play. While the PC gamer....has a higher end PC. I really find these arguments ridiculous. Play games....have fun. It's not like a console looks like an Atari and chugs. They look and play within the same basic era.

My point is that it is better to play games with "2560x1440, 60fps, max settings" than "1920x1080, 30fps, medium-high settings".

Also in 2-3 years is going to be "2560x1440, 60fps, max settings" VS "1920x1080, 30fps, low settings"

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#35 Posted by LJS9502_basic (158427 posts) -

@MK-Professor said:

My point is that it is better to play games with "2560x1440, 60fps, max settings" than "1920x1080, 30fps, medium-high settings".

Also in 2-3 years is going to be "2560x1440, 60fps, max settings" VS "1920x1080, 30fps, low settings"

No it's better to play games that are fun. Anyway by the end of console gens the devs make better looking games anyway because they've learned the hardware. And incremental increases really really aren't that important.

And being a PC gamer means you miss out on a lot of quality games. Your loss dude. *shrug*

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#36 Edited by miiiiv (899 posts) -

Damn, 8,44 tflops from a single gpu! That's even more than my dual gpu HD 7990, it's fun to see how fast things are progressing. But I don't think console gamers should be "terrified", they know (except maybe for a few delusional ones) that they will never have a technical graphics king. And most of them buy consoles for the exclusives, I believe.

Have you once played new games at high resolutions with great graphics and high frame rates, it's hard to only game on consoles. Which is why I buy consoles for the exclusives and have a gaming pc for everything else.

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#37 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

Terrified? As a patron of Xbox, the console that will be receiving a plethora of exclusives and features, I am overjoyed. The console that is beta tested in the future will sit high atop its throne and look down and smile.

I am terrified that Sony wont be around to see the end of 2015. A poor E3 line up will solidify this.

I am terrified that I will still only purchase 2-3 PC titles a year.

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#38 Posted by Evo_nine (2166 posts) -

@PinkieWinkie said:

@Evo_nine: A locked 30 fps game runs and plays perfectly fine.

fine....but not great.

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#39 Posted by Evo_nine (2166 posts) -

@BattleSpectre said:

@Evo_nine said:

@KillzoneSnake said:

@Evo_nine said:

@KillzoneSnake said:

Not at all. I think KZSF was the graphics king last year and this year will be The Order 1886.

30fps lol

Actually 30+.

Does 60fps make graphics look better? lol nice try :)

so....what is it....32fps???

no I guess it doesn't make the graphics "look" better, but it plays a hell of a lot better. You can have a great looking game running at 1fps using that logic.

No you can't. The game would crash at 1fps and there'd be nothing "great" to look at. Come at me bro (lol).

yeah but it would still look good....according to teh cow.

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#40 Posted by MK-Professor (4131 posts) -
@LJS9502_basic said:

No it's better to play games that are fun. Anyway by the end of console gens the devs make better looking games anyway because they've learned the hardware. And incremental increases really really aren't that important.

And being a PC gamer means you miss out on a lot of quality games. Your loss dude. *shrug*

Sure it is better to play games that are fun, but it will be even better to play this games with "2560x1440, 60fps, max settings, large fov, control scheme of your choice, mods, etc"

Quality games to your mean a few console exclusive? Because others might have a different opinion, Me for example I consider them as garbage, and the best games are pc exlusives and the superior version of multiplats. See? my opinion is different than yours. But the FACT is that multiplats look and play better on pc.

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#41 Posted by SamiRDuran (2758 posts) -

By the time ps4 is barely a year old there will be gaming PCs that are 12 times more powerful... This console generation is turning out to be the biggest joke in history of gaming and likely the last one.

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#42 Posted by BattleSpectre (7989 posts) -

@Evo_nine said:

@BattleSpectre said:

@Evo_nine said:

@KillzoneSnake said:

@Evo_nine said:

@KillzoneSnake said:

Not at all. I think KZSF was the graphics king last year and this year will be The Order 1886.

30fps lol

Actually 30+.

Does 60fps make graphics look better? lol nice try :)

so....what is it....32fps???

no I guess it doesn't make the graphics "look" better, but it plays a hell of a lot better. You can have a great looking game running at 1fps using that logic.

No you can't. The game would crash at 1fps and there'd be nothing "great" to look at. Come at me bro (lol).

yeah but it would still look good....according to teh cow.

Only if you stand still lol. Trying to pan the camera around would be such a mess with all that stutter.

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#43 Posted by LJS9502_basic (158427 posts) -

@MK-Professor said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

No it's better to play games that are fun. Anyway by the end of console gens the devs make better looking games anyway because they've learned the hardware. And incremental increases really really aren't that important.

And being a PC gamer means you miss out on a lot of quality games. Your loss dude. *shrug*

Sure it is better to play games that are fun, but it will be even better to play this games with "2560x1440, 60fps, max settings, large fov, control scheme of your choice, mods, etc"

Quality games to your mean a few console exclusive? Because others might have a different opinion, Me for example I consider them as garbage, and the best games are pc exlusives and the superior version of multiplats. See? my opinion is different than yours. But the FACT is that multiplats look and play better on pc.

Again those little increments don't detract from the game experience. And as I said in one of the threads....for the cost of upgrading one can buy a hell of a lot of games.

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#44 Edited by OhSnapitz (19107 posts) -

lol

The RX280 is like $400 (the cost of a PS4). I can only imagine what the next line will cost... $600-$800?... and this is after most have spent upwards of $1000 for their rig? That's not worth bragging about in my book.

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#45 Edited by SolidTy (49937 posts) -

@thehig1 said:

@SolidTy: if you a console gamer why on earth do you have 4 gaming PC's.

I never said I was a console only gamer. Read my post again (the one you are referring but did not quote):

"Plus, I have four gaming PCs, but this news doesn't impact me at all IF I had been a console only gamer."

"IF I had been..."

"IF"

IF was the operative word you skipped over. I am clearly NOT a console only gamer as I still recall the Shareware Doom and 1992's Wolfenstein 3D early days of FPS gaming. I remember when MYST, Riven, Hexen, and more came out. You can read more about me here in this PC thread from earlier today.

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#46 Posted by MK-Professor (4131 posts) -
@LJS9502_basic said:

Again those little increments don't detract from the game experience. And as I said in one of the threads....for the cost of upgrading one can buy a hell of a lot of games.

There are big increments not small. As for the cost argument PC gaming is cheaper in the long run, because of the cheap games.

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#47 Posted by tormentos (25100 posts) -

I will be when you get games that like this..

http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/652686-the-last-of-us/index.html

When was the last time PC go something relevant.?

Well at least you have the power..lol

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#48 Posted by MonsieurX (35562 posts) -

@tormentos said:

I will be when you get games that like this..

http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/652686-the-last-of-us/index.html

When was the last time PC go something relevant.?

Well at least you have the power..lol

http://www.gamerankings.com/pc/938072-out-of-the-park-baseball-2007/index.html > TLOU

Still in last gen

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#49 Edited by zeeshanhaider (5251 posts) -

@MK-Professor said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:

It's disappointing that out of all the sperm, you were the one that had to win the race.

Resorting to insults for no reason, I only ask you to tell me how you're feeling.

Not only that, he has started to steal comments from other users. Sony drones have really hit a new low.

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#50 Posted by tdkmillsy (2251 posts) -

Real opportunity this generation for PC's games to wipe the floor with consoles. The difference in graphics will be a lot more this generation. The sheer difference in power now even at a greater cost is evidence of that. But what they need is someone getting the games for PC's. Both Sony and Microsoft are pushing developers for games on their consoles, whos doing it for PC. You get lucky that some games come out on PC and Xbox (like Titanfall) and there are some developers focussing on PC. But at conferences like E3 its all about the consoles. Hopefully the likes of steam machine in a few years will make PC gaming cost effective and easy to get into.

Lets not be stupid if you buying 10+ games a year and you can get those games on PC and that matters is performance. PC is the way to go, the savings you make buying the games can easily pay for the upgrades. I bought 10+ games already for Xbox One. In the summer (possibly later) I think I'll start building a PC cos its obviously the way to go.