Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 review is up FLOPPAGE

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#1 Edited by jhonMalcovich (4411 posts) -
#2 Posted by aroxx_ab (9204 posts) -

Oh i will buy many flopping games it seems:P

#3 Posted by finalstar2007 (24880 posts) -

Coudlnt care less about reviews, going to get this game and going to enjoy it!

the first castlevania game was the first castlevania game i played and it was fun as hell not only in terms of gameplay but also had a good story.

#4 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (8278 posts) -

So glad that I decided not to buy any last gen games. I also won't be getting The Evil Within, which will also most likely flop. The only remaning fairly new last gen game I'd buy is XCOM: Enemy Within.

#5 Posted by StriateEnd (497 posts) -

Oooooh. When IGN gives a game a 6.5/anything below a 7 you know something's seriously wrong.

#6 Edited by PrincessGomez92 (3332 posts) -

A great month for games.

#7 Edited by jg4xchamp (46974 posts) -

2 reviews

One being positive as a 7 out of 10 on this site is good, and should be considered good on a full 1-10 scale.

The other is slightly below good from a website that allowed someone to write the following

Dead Space 2 is an amazing game. I'm going to write about its scary moments, cool kills, and how much I dig the main character's internal struggle, but Dead Space 2 is about more than this. When I beat it for the first time, I sat on the couch with my heart racing and dissected the journey I had just taken. Then, I started my second playthrough, and when that was done, I jumped into a new game for the third time. Dead Space 2 is just that good.

and the following

The Verdict

Cortana once asked Master Chief what would happen if he missed his target, and in the single greatest line of dialogue in Halo history, Chief replied with the coolest, calmest confidence, "I won’t."

And the following

Yes, the gameplay still revolves around climbing walls and shooting bad guys, but refinement found those mechanics

the same site that allowed this into a review

When I rant about why Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception is better than just about anything on the market -- about why I think it's my new favorite game of all time -- I don't talk about the firefights, the new ability to throw grenades back at enemies or collecting the game's 101 well-hidden treasures. I talk about the heart-wrenching section where Drake is by himself and completely lost. He's on his last legs, he's desperate, and I'm right there with him. I'm pushing him through the journey at hand and it's clear that it's a game, but as he stumbles, seeks shelter and loses hope, my heart breaks.

So you know, I mean surely the game can be perfectly fine on its own merits.

#8 Edited by Newhopes (4468 posts) -

What surprise first lord of shadow was below average as well.

#9 Edited by silversix_ (13877 posts) -

this is the saddest sadness since the sad was invented. GT gave it a 8.3 or something so fuk da police n im buying in today.

#11 Posted by jg4xchamp (46974 posts) -

Okay so apparently it's doing lousy at a lot of places. Which I guess is semi surprising given that the original had a fair reception if not anything impressive. Never enjoyed the original, probably won't try the sequel. Still stand by dismissing the game based on a good score(7) and a ign review(they suck) is silly.

#12 Posted by kalipekona (2296 posts) -

I'm with finalstar2007, I really don't care much about reviews. Everybody has their opinion and I personally think a lot of people have stupid opinions, or at least opinions I strongly disagree with. The game has had plenty of higher scores in the 8s and 9s as well. Why do some of you take the lower scores, or even the average, as gospel truth?

#13 Posted by bobbetybob (19110 posts) -

Not surprising really. The demo was decent enough but it felt so stale and the combat wasn't intricate enough to hold up the game.

#14 Posted by MlauTheDaft (3172 posts) -

Seems like Kevin did a nice review this time IMO.

That's not to say that He's usually bad of course.

#15 Edited by jhonMalcovich (4411 posts) -

Seems like Kevin did a nice review this time IMO.

That's not to say that He's usually bad of course.

The game is reviewed by Peter Brown, not Kevin.

#16 Posted by ShepardCommandr (2263 posts) -

Again i didn't have any expectations

#17 Edited by StrongBlackVine (8418 posts) -

So glad that I decided not to buy any last gen games. I also won't be getting The Evil Within, which will also most likely flop. The only remaning fairly new last gen game I'd buy is XCOM: Enemy Within.

The Evil Within is cross-gen and why would think the guy behind Resident Evil 4 would make a flop? If it is 75 percent of RE4 it will be great.

#18 Posted by MlauTheDaft (3172 posts) -
#19 Edited by finalfantasy94 (26228 posts) -

It seems alot of the problems stem from the city stealth aspect.Ill get it down the line. It would have been day 1 if there was some sort of CE.

#20 Edited by Crossel777 (5593 posts) -

Anyone remember when castlevania got near perfect scores all around? I do. Go back to the 2D style please and give it to a developer that knows what the fuck they're doing.

#21 Edited by finalfantasy94 (26228 posts) -

@Crossel777 said:

Anyone remember when castlevania got near perfect scores all around? I do. Go back to the 2D style please and give it to a developer that knows what the fuck they're doing.

Well this is their last game so you dont have to worry about them messing things up anymore *rolls eyes*

#22 Edited by R4gn4r0k (16249 posts) -

Coudlnt care less about reviews, going to get this game and going to enjoy it!

the first castlevania game was the first castlevania game i played and it was fun as hell not only in terms of gameplay but also had a good story.

Same here. I'm definitely getting this along with Thief, couldn't care less about scores. The games look very enjoyable to me.

#23 Posted by PyratRum (561 posts) -

Meh, reviews...

Loved the first LoS so I'll definitely be getting this one as well.

#24 Edited by musalala (2111 posts) -

@jhonMalcovich:

LOL polygon gave it 5 , now I am definitely buying this game

#25 Posted by FireEmblem_Man (8558 posts) -

I'm calling GS HipsterSpot, but netherless I have enjoyed the Lords of Shadow series. MercuryStream has a lot of good ideas, but they tend to over-think on executing their games.

#26 Posted by jsmoke03 (12600 posts) -

7 is a flop? do you only play 8+ scoring games? i didnt see hype threads about this

#27 Posted by LustForSoul (5825 posts) -

I'm getting it anyway, if it's any good as the last.

#28 Posted by Desmonic (13180 posts) -

CastleFlop: Lords of Flop 2

Shame. The first one was pretty entertaining.

#29 Edited by Sushiglutton (5191 posts) -

And I rather play this than "Dear Esther" or "Gone Home" any day in the week. I allready knew the game would score badly because it's not innovative, or mature, or sets a new standard for story telling, or any of those things. I still think it will be a blast to play and indeed all the reviewers I've read have praised the combat system.

#30 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16249 posts) -

@jsmoke03 said:

7 is a flop? do you only play 8+ scoring games? i didnt see hype threads about this

Yes, a lot of people on here consider anything below an 8.0 not worth playing. Titles like Thief that score a 6.0 are trash that only deserve a place in the trashbin. Heck, some go ever further and only mention games that get GOTY.


Meanwhile, there are other people that don't let their enjoyment be dictated by meaningless scores.

#31 Edited by Pikminmaniac (8690 posts) -

I disagree, tis a very good month. I just bought a game that's fighting to be the very best of an entire genre. A 10/10 if I ever played one.

In any case, I was looking forward to Lords of Shadow 2 because of the open world talk. I loved the Darksider's games for having decent combat and a huge world to explore. I'll have to check out why the reviewers weren't to keen on it and see if it still might be worth a pick up sometime down the line.

#32 Posted by Ghost120x (3680 posts) -

Still getting. Mercury steam makes some good games and they will only get better. Going from the gamespot review it seems they make have been forced to add things to make the game longer and the game suffered for it.

My copy of this and tales of hd should be delivered by this week, I'm so excited!

#33 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (24529 posts) -

2D castlevania is dead. -Mercury Stream

Both Harmony of Despair and Lords of Shadow Mirror of Fate scored better than both Lords of Shadow 1 & 2.

#34 Posted by Stringerboy (6922 posts) -

2 reviews

One being positive as a 7 out of 10 on this site is good, and should be considered good on a full 1-10 scale.

The other is slightly below good from a website that allowed someone to write the following

Dead Space 2 is an amazing game. I'm going to write about its scary moments, cool kills, and how much I dig the main character's internal struggle, but Dead Space 2 is about more than this. When I beat it for the first time, I sat on the couch with my heart racing and dissected the journey I had just taken. Then, I started my second playthrough, and when that was done, I jumped into a new game for the third time. Dead Space 2 is just that good.

and the following

The Verdict

Cortana once asked Master Chief what would happen if he missed his target, and in the single greatest line of dialogue in Halo history, Chief replied with the coolest, calmest confidence, "I won’t."

And the following

Yes, the gameplay still revolves around climbing walls and shooting bad guys, but refinement found those mechanics

the same site that allowed this into a review

When I rant about why Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception is better than just about anything on the market -- about why I think it's my new favorite game of all time -- I don't talk about the firefights, the new ability to throw grenades back at enemies or collecting the game's 101 well-hidden treasures. I talk about the heart-wrenching section where Drake is by himself and completely lost. He's on his last legs, he's desperate, and I'm right there with him. I'm pushing him through the journey at hand and it's clear that it's a game, but as he stumbles, seeks shelter and loses hope, my heart breaks.

So you know, I mean surely the game can be perfectly fine on its own merits.

#35 Posted by King_Allant (16 posts) -

wow, I am sad that both this and thief got pretty bad reviews.But i'll still see what ppl's general conscious is and might pick up one of them

#36 Edited by dommeus (9187 posts) -

I'm calling GS HipsterSpot, but netherless I have enjoyed the Lords of Shadow series. MercuryStream has a lot of good ideas, but they tend to over-think on executing their games.

By the way folks, at the first signs of a mercury stream, please seek emergency medical attention

#37 Posted by Joedgabe (5091 posts) -

I'll wait for the Rev3Review but so far is definitely a yes from the info i've been getting from the reviews. It kinda makes me want it more reading most of their complaints... i see some of them as a plus.

#38 Posted by lostrib (32942 posts) -

Were people actually hyping this?

#39 Posted by Animal-Mother (26301 posts) -

I'll still grab it. I really enjoyed the first one and am not having fun with lego marvel. I rarely go against my trade in rule. But I blame eroica for that one.

#40 Posted by RossRichard (2329 posts) -

Exactly who was hyping it?

#41 Posted by shawn30 (4361 posts) -

Damn, those are atrocious scores. Wow.

#42 Edited by cainetao11 (16446 posts) -

What was official Hype? Or do we just call any game not scoring a 9 a FLOP now?

#43 Posted by glez13 (8545 posts) -

Apparently it's like Darksiders 2, trying to do a lot of things at once.

#44 Posted by Randolph (10418 posts) -

2D castlevania is dead. -Mercury Stream

Both Harmony of Despair and Lords of Shadow Mirror of Fate scored better than both Lords of Shadow 1 & 2.

They only said that because they tried to make one, and it was terrible. :P

#45 Posted by StrifeDelivery (1318 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@jsmoke03 said:

7 is a flop? do you only play 8+ scoring games? i didnt see hype threads about this

Yes, a lot of people on here consider anything below an 8.0 not worth playing. Titles like Thief that score a 6.0 are trash that only deserve a place in the trashbin. Heck, some go ever further and only mention games that get GOTY.

Meanwhile, there are other people that don't let their enjoyment be dictated by meaningless scores.

I mean was there official hype for this? Also, seems people forget the idea that flop does not equal a bad game.

#46 Posted by texasgoldrush (9117 posts) -

Actually, the European reviewers have scored this game a lot better. Even some 9 out of 10's.

#47 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (13040 posts) -

Forcing stealth elements into castlevania when you play as freaking Dracula, is beyond stupid.

The prince of darkness, c'mon people this isn't a difficult concept. Thankfully this will be their last game in the castlevania franchise.

The only thing I'm really interested in is how Alucard fits into all this. Was that just them trying to pander to the SOTN audience for more sales or what?

#48 Edited by texasgoldrush (9117 posts) -

Forcing stealth elements into castlevania when you play as freaking Dracula, is beyond stupid.

The prince of darkness, c'mon people this isn't a difficult concept. Thankfully this will be their last game in the castlevania franchise.

The only thing I'm really interested in is how Alucard fits into all this. Was that just them trying to pander to the SOTN audience for more sales or what?

The stealth elements come in when Dracula is weak and not at full power...it makes sense. And the stealth sections are not as terrible as reviewers make it out to be. They are not good, but to suggest that they break the game is idiotic.

And really, fans are actually enjoying this game more than the first, unlike the reviewers.

As for Alucard, he is definitely plays a big role...and he will get a DLC.

#49 Edited by R4gn4r0k (16249 posts) -

I mean was there official hype for this? Also, seems people forget the idea that flop does not equal a bad game.

I don't think so. Thief had a hype thread though so that game flopped.

Yeah, but that's because flop has different meaning, be it commercial flop, critical flop or just a flop in general.

#50 Edited by StrifeDelivery (1318 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@StrifeDelivery said:

I mean was there official hype for this? Also, seems people forget the idea that flop does not equal a bad game.

I don't think so. Thief had a hype thread though so that game flopped.

Yeah, but that's because flop has different meaning, be it commercial flop, critical flop or just a flop in general.

You're right that flop can have multiple meanings, but if we take the general SW's meaning, of just not meeting the hype, that doesn't make it a bad game. Neither would it be if it was a commercial flop either.