Cancel your preorder: Thief 4 looks terrible (live stream)

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#51 Edited by ShadowDeathX (10525 posts) -

Meh...I got a free copy from AMD.

#52 Edited by Timstuff (26817 posts) -

I don't preorder games. I wait until they're out, and if they are good I buy them. I'm watching the stream and it doesn't look bad, though as always I will not commit until after I have seen some reviews and player feedback (after all, we can't exactly trust the gaming press to protect us from lemons anymore).

#53 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16033 posts) -

I can't believe they added sex scenes to thief, lmao. Is that the current trend? Everything needs a sex scene. I mean Metro was bad enough.

Metro had a sex scene ? How did I miss that :O

#54 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (12759 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

I can't believe they added sex scenes to thief, lmao. Is that the current trend? Everything needs a sex scene. I mean Metro was bad enough.

Metro had a sex scene ? How did I miss that :O

Yeah with Anna in last light, although the stripper was ten times worse.

What ever happened to subtlety.

#55 Edited by Syn_Valence (1327 posts) -

Blame God Of War for the sex scenes in video games lol

#56 Edited by Kinthalis (5251 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

Game looks great. Day one !

@sts106mat said:

@Kinthalis said:

And consoles ruin another PC franchise. Thanks.

PC pirates bring another franchise to consoles.. thanks

Both of your comments are equally stupid.

WTF? My comment was supposed to have a winky smile on it. I was being tongue and cheek about it! Stupid forum.

#57 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16033 posts) -

Yeah with Anna in last light, although the stripper was ten times worse.

What ever happened to subtlety.

Oh yeah, now I remember. It was so stupid I forgot. Totally unnecessary yeah. A sex scene could make sense where there is actually a romantic relationship or anything. But game developers going: right, so the player shot some people so it's time to mix it up a bit and have a sex scene. Is pretty embarrasing.

Best sex scene EVER in a game though: Ride To Hell.

WTF? My comment was supposed to have a winky smile on it. I was being tongue and cheek about it! Stupid forum.

I think this works best for a sarcastic/tongue in cheek post:

:p

#58 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (12759 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Yeah with Anna in last light, although the stripper was ten times worse.

What ever happened to subtlety.

Oh yeah, now I remember. It was so stupid I forgot. Totally unnecessary yeah. A sex scene could make sense where there is actually a romantic relationship or anything. But game developers going: right, so the player shot some people so it's time to mix it up a bit and have a sex scene. Is pretty embarrasing.

Best sex scene EVER in a game though: Ride To Hell.

@Kinthalis said:

WTF? My comment was supposed to have a winky smile on it. I was being tongue and cheek about it! Stupid forum.

I think this works best for a sarcastic/tongue in cheek post:

:p

Ah yes, Ride to hell the game that came with Syphilis and Gonorrhea as pre-order bonuses.

#59 Edited by R4gn4r0k (16033 posts) -

Ride to hell came with Syphilis and Gonorrhea as pre-order bonuses.

Really ? I bought the edition of the game where the devs came to my house and kicked me in the balls.

It was more pleasant than the actual game.

#60 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (12759 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Ride to hell came with Syphilis and Gonorrhea as pre-order bonuses.

Really ? I bought the edition of the game where the devs came to my house and kicked me in the balls.

It was more pleasant than the actual game.

You got off easy, they tied me to the end of a motorcycle and drove me around the block.

I never played it, but holy crap it looked awful.

#61 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16033 posts) -

You got off easy, they tied me to the end of a motorcycle and drove me around the block.

I never played it, but holy crap it looked awful.

Nobody should play it, it sucks so bad. It's just a hilariously bad attempt in every single way.

Like how the 1% on the cover is a reference to what the motorcycle gangs use, but it could also point at how well the game scored.

Or how you save women from rape, and they instantly want to have sex with you in what could be the worst sex scene ever put on screen.

If you haven't seen it, go give Angryjoe's review a watch, it's very funny.

#62 Posted by Jankarcop (8827 posts) -

seems like a consolized mess, atleast its still best on PC

#63 Posted by 67gt500 (4620 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k: Stupid? Numerous formerly pro-PC developers have stated that rampant piracy was the main impetus driving their decision(s) to go multi-platform...

#64 Posted by kalipekona (2296 posts) -

@67gt500 said:

@R4gn4r0k: Stupid? Numerous formerly pro-PC developers have stated that rampant piracy was the main impetus driving their decision(s) to go multi-platform...

Most third party developers are going multi-platform due to rising development costs. Lots of formerly console exclusive franchises are coming to PC. There used to be lots of games that consoles would get that PC wouldn't, but now almost the only exclusives left on consoles are funded by the console makers themselves.

All the main platforms are similar enough these days that building versions of a game for each of those platforms isn't too difficult or expensive and increases your odds of making back your development costs and hopefully make a profit.

That's what's actually happening. Not your bullshit analysis.

#65 Posted by Pffrbt (6355 posts) -

@jsmoke03 said:

@Sushiglutton said:

@Locutus_Picard said:

-Mini-maps, objective markers, hand-holding eagle view

As I predicted the elitists are way too stupid to navigate a simple menu.

so its like ac game? why is that bad?

Because AC is unbearably boring and bad and mindless.

#66 Posted by Shielder7 (4601 posts) -

@silversix_ said:

Bad sex scenes? Cancelled.

I second this. I can forgive bad level design and AI. But it's the sex scenes that make or break this game.

Ba common guys it can't be as bad as Dragon Age Origins sex scenes............... Could it?

#67 Edited by Pffrbt (6355 posts) -

"Seen so far:

-Compass icons on guards telling you their alertness, which stay on your UI even if they're not on your line of sight anymore.

-Tiny levels, constant loading screens.

-Guard AI non-existent.

-Horribly blurry screen. I guess this is for indicating your visibility but it's just like someone smeared vaseline all over.

-Terribly designed NuGarett.

-Horrible swooping action.

-Godawful voice acting.

-Horrible Jason Bourne wubwub music playing on top of each other/doesn't know when to cue properly.

-Garett stands in closet with guard next to it --> opens closet, pushing guard out of the way. Guard oblivious.

-Constant close-ups of whatever he's doing. Lockpicking, opening windows,...

-Third person cutscenes in the midst of a level.

-No need for stealth, you can just pummel multiple guards in their face, and finish them with execution moves.

-Max Payne dream sequences.

-I think I saw an enemy stand there, Mortal Kombat style, waiting for the fatality after some blackjack pummeling.

-BLOODY SCREEN, so real. Even comes with damage direction indicators.

-"I want you to steal the key to THE TRUTH, Garrett!"

-UI compass direction icon, with distance indicator.

-You can hear conversations from miles away and they repeat.

-Every level looks the same.

-Spying on people having sex, CreepyGarrett

-Garrett sees flashbacks of dead people or whatever.

-Instant kill traps, but focus mode shows you which button to press by highlighting the whole trap in red and blue.

-I've seen little or no use of the old thief elements. No noisy floors, no moss arrows, no rope arrows, no water arrows. It's just mostly running around and fighting guards

Basically it seems even worse than everyone was expecting."

Game sounds like diluted mainstream crap.

#68 Edited by kalipekona (2296 posts) -

Sorry to go off topic, but my ability to quote or reply to others seems to not be working. Does anybody have any ideas about why that might be?

#69 Edited by Shielder7 (4601 posts) -

@kalipekona said:

@67gt500 said:

@R4gn4r0k: Stupid? Numerous formerly pro-PC developers have stated that rampant piracy was the main impetus driving their decision(s) to go multi-platform...

Most third party developers are going multi-platform due to rising development costs. Lots of formerly console exclusive franchises are coming to PC. There used to be lots of games that consoles would get that PC wouldn't, but now almost the only exclusives left on consoles are funded by the console makers themselves.

Same things could be said about PCs, you get very little or no games that are exclusive to the PC that aren't RTS or indie. Even most MMO's now are making the leap to consoles.

#70 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (5450 posts) -

@aroxx_ab said:

Dont care about sex scenes in games, if i want watch stuff like that i just watch some porn movie. The game does not look that terrible from what i seen. I keep my pre-order thank you.

Yeah same here. I haven't seen anything so far that is making me want to cancel my pre-order.

#71 Posted by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

@kalipekona said:

@67gt500 said:

@R4gn4r0k: Stupid? Numerous formerly pro-PC developers have stated that rampant piracy was the main impetus driving their decision(s) to go multi-platform...

Most third party developers are going multi-platform due to rising development costs. Lots of formerly console exclusive franchises are coming to PC. There used to be lots of games that consoles would get that PC wouldn't, but now almost the only exclusives left on consoles are funded by the console makers themselves.

Same things could be said about PCs, you get very little or no games that are exclusive to the PC that aren't RTS or indie. Even most MMO's now are making the leap to consoles.

ok at this time the entire MMO industry is a 'PC exclusive' except for what? one crappy one?

besides, exclusives really are not important.

#72 Posted by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

@Pffrbt said:

"Seen so far:

-Compass icons on guards telling you their alertness, which stay on your UI even if they're not on your line of sight anymore.

-Tiny levels, constant loading screens.

-Guard AI non-existent.

-Horribly blurry screen. I guess this is for indicating your visibility but it's just like someone smeared vaseline all over.

-Terribly designed NuGarett.

-Horrible swooping action.

-Godawful voice acting.

-Horrible Jason Bourne wubwub music playing on top of each other/doesn't know when to cue properly.

-Garett stands in closet with guard next to it --> opens closet, pushing guard out of the way. Guard oblivious.

-Constant close-ups of whatever he's doing. Lockpicking, opening windows,...

-Third person cutscenes in the midst of a level.

-No need for stealth, you can just pummel multiple guards in their face, and finish them with execution moves.

-Max Payne dream sequences.

-I think I saw an enemy stand there, Mortal Kombat style, waiting for the fatality after some blackjack pummeling.

-BLOODY SCREEN, so real. Even comes with damage direction indicators.

-"I want you to steal the key to THE TRUTH, Garrett!"

-UI compass direction icon, with distance indicator.

-You can hear conversations from miles away and they repeat.

-Every level looks the same.

-Spying on people having sex, CreepyGarrett

-Garrett sees flashbacks of dead people or whatever.

-Instant kill traps, but focus mode shows you which button to press by highlighting the whole trap in red and blue.

-I've seen little or no use of the old thief elements. No noisy floors, no moss arrows, no rope arrows, no water arrows. It's just mostly running around and fighting guards

Basically it seems even worse than everyone was expecting."

Game sounds like diluted mainstream crap.

to be fair the customization on difficulty is pretty large. For example, you can turn alterness off and you can turn off the blue shadow around all interactive items which I am glad they had that as an option

#73 Posted by joel_c17 (2804 posts) -

I have a feeling this game is going to suck donkey balls

#74 Posted by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

I think what bothers me here is the amount of distaste for a sex scene while there is so much violence that people dont even blink an eye over.

Hell Microsoft doesnt even let your curse while killing people.....wtf?

#75 Edited by aroxx_ab (9120 posts) -

@SEANMCAD said:

I think what bothers me here is the amount of distaste for a sex scene while there is so much violence that people dont even blink an eye over.

Hell Microsoft doesnt even let your curse while killing people.....wtf?

The difference is violence is gameplay, you shoot things/people in games and it is fun...sex is not gameplay in games it is just some boring crap you watch.

#76 Posted by WiiMan21 (8147 posts) -

I'll check it out for sure, probably not right away since Dark Souls and InFamous Second Son is right around the corner.

#77 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16033 posts) -

@kalipekona said:

Most third party developers are going multi-platform due to rising development costs. Lots of formerly console exclusive franchises are coming to PC. There used to be lots of games that consoles would get that PC wouldn't, but now almost the only exclusives left on consoles are funded by the console makers themselves.

Same things could be said about PCs, you get very little or no games that are exclusive to the PC that aren't RTS or indie. Even most MMO's now are making the leap to consoles.

Yeah, very little exclusives for PC indeed... yet still more than Xbone, WiiU and PS4 combined.

Deal with it.

Most third party developers are going multi-platform due to rising development costs. Lots of formerly console exclusive franchises are coming to PC. There used to be lots of games that consoles would get that PC wouldn't, but now almost the only exclusives left on consoles are funded by the console makers themselves.

All the main platforms are similar enough these days that building versions of a game for each of those platforms isn't too difficult or expensive and increases your odds of making back your development costs and hopefully make a profit.

That's what's actually happening. Not your bullshit analysis.

No man, if he wants to believe bullshit marketing talk by companies, than he should go ahead.


I totally believe Crytek when they said Far Cry and Crysis were pirated to death and they needed to go to console gaming to make any money at all. Eventhough they apparently were able to purchase 2 game studios and opened 2 others. Game studios must've just been really cheap at that time.

And I totally believe Ubisoft when they said PC piracy is 97% so they HAD to include their broken DRM in all their games. Eventhough they came back on their decision and statement on the piracy number.

#78 Posted by Gaming-Planet (13703 posts) -

I expected this game to be pretty casual anyway.

#79 Posted by SEANMCAD (5464 posts) -

@aroxx_ab said:

@SEANMCAD said:

I think what bothers me here is the amount of distaste for a sex scene while there is so much violence that people dont even blink an eye over.

Hell Microsoft doesnt even let your curse while killing people.....wtf?

The difference is violence is gameplay, you shoot things/people in games and it is fun...sex is not gameplay in games it is just some boring crap you watch.

so its cutscene we dont like or just sex scene cut scenes?

#80 Edited by timbers_WSU (5753 posts) -

I think hermits forgot......this isn't the first Thief on consoles. And Deadly Shadows was a good game on XBOX. Hell I enjoyed Deus Ex IW on XBOX as well. It must really suck to be a PC only gamer. You guys hate everything. Sports, racing, shooters, fighters, outside, women , soap, platformers, controllers.

Why even exist? Or............

Why not enjoy a game for a change? It isn't like most of you pay for them.

#81 Posted by X_CAPCOM_X (5995 posts) -

It must really suck to be a PC only gamer. You guys hate everything. Sports, racing, shooters, fighters, outside, women , soap, platformers, controllers.

holy shit lmao

#82 Posted by donalbane (16135 posts) -

I watched the entire Rev3 live video and came away more excited. The language barriers resulting from the French developer made for some awkward discussion, but the game itself looks terrific from the perspective of a stealth fan.

#83 Posted by timbers_WSU (5753 posts) -

At least Gamefly the damn thing or play the demo. After all, The team did do Deus Ex justice.

#84 Posted by kozzy1234 (35125 posts) -

I'm still gonna buy it and play to make up my own mind on it

THIS

I am not expecting a 9 or 10/10 but right now I just feel like some stealthy action in between my Banished gaming and the upcoming South Park RPG and Titanfall :)

Not to mention I saw I could get it for $28 on green man gaming (With my $6 store credit) :)

#85 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38150 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin said:

I'm still gonna buy it and play to make up my own mind on it

THIS

I am not expecting a 9 or 10/10 but right now I just feel like some stealthy action in between my Banished gaming and the upcoming South Park RPG and Titanfall :)

Not to mention I saw I could get it for $28 on green man gaming (With my $6 store credit) :)

Yep, I got my key from them today too. Pre-loading now

#86 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16033 posts) -

Yep, I got my key from them today too. Pre-loading now

Same here. 19.7 GB pre-loaded.

Next week still seems so far away. I'm guessing you can play it from the 28th as well ?

#87 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38150 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

Yep, I got my key from them today too. Pre-loading now

Same here. 19.7 GB pre-loaded.

Next week still seems so far away. I'm guessing you can play it from the 28th as well ?

Well I for one am glad to have the week headstart, lord knows my internet needs it. I hope other upcoming games will be as generous

And yeah we're the 28th here in EU. NA gets to play on the 25th

#88 Posted by R4gn4r0k (16033 posts) -

Well I for one am glad to have the week headstart, lord knows my internet needs it. I hope other upcoming games will be as generous

And yeah we're the 28th here in EU. NA gets to play on the 25th

Yeah, it's nice to see. Most of the time reviewers get their version a week or so early, so it is possible for them to start the pre-load that soon.

I guess we can play some: Rambo: The Video Game to pass the time until next week :p

#89 Edited by Flubbbs (2788 posts) -

cancelled it a month ago..just doesnt look good to me. dammit Eidos Montreal, get your shit together and get working on the next Deus Ex

#90 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (8675 posts) -

Just so people are aware, it's the same studio behind Human Revolution, but it's an entirely different team.

#91 Edited by Animal-Mother (26186 posts) -

@Gargus: A game coming out the February after a next-gen launch is capitalizing on desperate gamers who have nothing to play (yes, I know it's coming to ps3 360). It's the same reason Tomb Raider DE wouldn't have been successful outside of January. If this game was something worth seeing, it would come out over the summer or later.

Games that are worth seeing do not come out over the summer.

#92 Edited by Kinthalis (5251 posts) -

It looks ok, and I got it for essentially 50% off form GMG.

I'm just sad that it's not looking to be as good as the Deus Ex reboot. :(

#93 Posted by Icarian (1462 posts) -

We already knew that it isn't a Thief game. It will be a disaster, but console kids will love it because they don't know any better.

#94 Posted by Master_ShakeXXX (13361 posts) -

I'll take this over Titanfall, thanks.

#95 Posted by IMAHAPYHIPPO (2534 posts) -

@Animal-Mother: Red Dead Redemption, Mario Galaxy 2, The Last of Us, Pikmin 3, Metal Gear Solid 4, Batman Arkham Asylum, and Deus Ex Human Revolution all came out between May and August, just to name a few off the top of my head.

#96 Posted by JohnF111 (14008 posts) -

Saw some live streams and saw the player dying a few times, can't be that bad. Just a stupid mistake can ruin your mission, looked okay if you ask me and AI not quite as dumb as people think.

Might still buy it even though there's lots of hate and scepticism.

#97 Posted by foxhound_fox (86821 posts) -

It's still been better to just get The Metal Age and dig through the compendium of community-made maps.

#98 Posted by timbers_WSU (5753 posts) -

@Icarian said:

We already knew that it isn't a Thief game. It will be a disaster, but console kids will love it because they don't know any better.

Another useless Hermit who's only sexual interaction was bumping againt his sister when they were in the free lunch line in grammer school.

#99 Posted by IMAHAPYHIPPO (2534 posts) -

@SEANMCAD: The reason people are more conservative about sexual content is because great deal more people will eventually have sex than brutally mutilate another human being. It's a lot easier to explain violence on the television as something that's not in the realm of the consumer's future behavior.

#100 Posted by Stringerboy (6887 posts) -

IT'S OGRE

STEALTH IS FINISHED