Can Wii run it? Part. 4

Another day brings another "Can Wii run it" thread. I decided to take a short brake from PS2 and Xbox games and decided to step it up a little bit. Todays game is Portal on the PS3, Xbox360, and PC. This awsome game was part of the orange box and now it sells on its own for pc. The Conduit(spelling?) looks pretty impressive in the graphics department for a wii game so im sure the graphics wouldnt be a problem. If this game were to come out on wii the way it is would it need a downgrade or run nicely? Can the wii tech run it? etc, etc. Let the debate begin. have fun. heres some pics. (I would also like to thank the people giving me ideas for my threads)

Portal would run quite well on Wii. The primary mechanic is maintaining velocity with respect to the relative planes of portal entrances/exits, and the implications of being able to teleport and change the axis of your velocity or that of an object or projectile in a standard gravity. As brilliant and profound as this is in a design sense, it boils down to three quick calculations.

1. Replace the "location" value of the player with the location of the destination portal.

2. Compare the plane angle of the surfaces that the entry/exit portals are embedded in to derive a value for axial rotation.

3. Transform the "velocity" value of the player by the axial rotation.

None of this is really performance intensive. Now, drawing the view through the portals is a slightly more demanding trick, but the Wii is more than capable - see for example the jumbotron display in the Pokemon stadium stages in Melee and Brawl, which will frequently display itself nested at least twice at a solid 60fps.

tl;dr - Portal doesn't have enough in-game objects to really slow down the Wii, and its portals are accomplished with straightforward math that is completely within Wii's capabilities.

Portal would run quite well on Wii. The primary mechanic is maintaining velocity with respect to the relative planes of portal entrances/exits, and the implications of being able to teleport and change the axis of your velocity or that of an object or projectile in a standard gravity. As brilliant and profound as this is in a design sense, it boils down to three quick calculations.

1. Replace the "location" value of the player with the location of the destination portal.

2. Compare the plane angle of the surfaces that the entry/exit portals are embedded in to derive a value for axial rotation.

3. Transform the "velocity" value of the player by the axial rotation.

None of this is really performance intensive. Now, drawing the view through the portals is a slightly more demanding trick, but the Wii is more than capable - see for example the jumbotron display in the Pokemon stadium stages in Melee and Brawl, which will frequently display itself nested at least twice at a solid 60fps.

tl;dr - Portal doesn't have enough in-game objects to really slow down the Wii, and its portals are accomplished with straightforward math that is completely within Wii's capabilities.

Iyethar

and with that i claim /thread

Portal would run quite well on Wii. The primary mechanic is maintaining velocity with respect to the relative planes of portal entrances/exits, and the implications of being able to teleport and change the axis of your velocity or that of an object or projectile in a standard gravity. As brilliant and profound as this is in a design sense, it boils down to three quick calculations.

1. Replace the "location" value of the player with the location of the destination portal.

2. Compare the plane angle of the surfaces that the entry/exit portals are embedded in to derive a value for axial rotation.

3. Transform the "velocity" value of the player by the axial rotation.Iyethar

I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.ukillwegrill

Proof? So far other then specs, we have not seen it.

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.lolkie_81

Proof? So far other then specs, we have not seen it.

Huh?

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.lolkie_81

Proof? So far other then specs, we have not seen it.

[QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.loco145

Proof? So far other then specs, we have not seen it.

Huh?

I was talking about being more powerful then the xbox1.

Portal would run quite well on Wii. The primary mechanic is maintaining velocity with respect to the relative planes of portal entrances/exits, and the implications of being able to teleport and change the axis of your velocity or that of an object or projectile in a standard gravity. As brilliant and profound as this is in a design sense, it boils down to three quick calculations.

1. Replace the "location" value of the player with the location of the destination portal.

2. Compare the plane angle of the surfaces that the entry/exit portals are embedded in to derive a value for axial rotation.

3. Transform the "velocity" value of the player by the axial rotation.

None of this is really performance intensive. Now, drawing the view through the portals is a slightly more demanding trick, but the Wii is more than capable - see for example the jumbotron display in the Pokemon stadium stages in Melee and Brawl, which will frequently display itself nested at least twice at a solid 60fps.

tl;dr - Portal doesn't have enough in-game objects to really slow down the Wii, and its portals are accomplished with straightforward math that is completely within Wii's capabilities.

Iyethar

now this is what i like to see. a logical explanation

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.lolkie_81

Proof? So far other then specs, we have not seen it.

Huh?

I was talking about being more powerful then the xbox1.

[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.loco145

Proof? So far other then specs, we have not seen it.

Huh?

I was talking about being more powerful then the xbox1.

IMO, NGB looks better then both of those games.

IMO, NGB looks better then both of those games.

lolkie_81

Huh? You mean aesthetically? or Technically?

[QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

IMO, NGB looks better then both of those games.

loco145

Huh? You mean aesthetically? or Technically?

[QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

IMO, NGB looks better then both of those games.

loco145

Huh? You mean aesthetically? or Technically?

Technically, I loved SMG art style but it looked bad in some places.

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

IMO, NGB looks better then both of those games.

lolkie_81

Huh? You mean aesthetically? or Technically?

[QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

IMO, NGB looks better then both of those games.

loco145

Huh? You mean aesthetically? or Technically?

Technically, I loved SMG art style but it looked bad in some places.

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.lolkie_81

Proof? So far other then specs, we have not seen it.

Huh?

I was talking about being more powerful then the xbox1.

IMO, NGB looks better then both of those games.

vs

This is coming from soneone who has played both and has beaten both...SMG looks better.

Yes, Source runs on the Wii. However it wouldn't be able to run at maximum settings on the updated Source Engine.

At least this was a better question to ask, the others were all too obvious.
Saturos3091

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]Yes, Source runs on the Wii. However it wouldn't be able to run at maximum settings on the updated Source Engine.

At least this was a better question to ask, the others were all too obvious.
loco145

says who? lol (and i hope your not talking about that garbage EA port of orange box)

No way

;)

I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.ukillwegrill

First off the Source 2.0 engine is made for HI-DEF systems. The Wii is not that system. Second, the Source 2.0 engine was not run on the Xbox. Half Life 2 and Counterstrike Xbox was a DOWNGRADED VERSION OF SOURCE 1.0. Third, the Wii is not as powerful as the Xbox. Otherwise you would see games as technicaly demanding as KOTOR,Forza, Jade Empire,or Halo 2 on the Wii. But you don't. Just my opinion though.

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.BudsMcGreen

First off the Source 2.0 engine is made for HI-DEF systems. The Wii is not that system. Second, the Source 2.0 engine was not run on the Xbox. Half Life 2 and Counterstrike Xbox was a DOWNGRADED VERSION OF SOURCE 1.0. Third, the Wii is not as powerful as the Xbox. Otherwise you would see games as technicaly demanding as KOTOR,Forza, Jade Empire,or Halo 2 on the Wii. But you don't. Just my opinion though.

[QUOTE="BudsMcGreen"]

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.Shinobishyguy

First off the Source 2.0 engine is made for HI-DEF systems. The Wii is not that system. Second, the Source 2.0 engine was not run on the Xbox. Half Life 2 and Counterstrike Xbox was a DOWNGRADED VERSION OF SOURCE 1.0. Third, the Wii is not as powerful as the Xbox. Otherwise you would see games as technicaly demanding as KOTOR,Forza, Jade Empire,or Halo 2 on the Wii. But you don't. Just my opinion though.

I wouldn't say easily, but it is debatable.

whats downgrade to you?

a downgraded version i think soNSR34GTR

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="BudsMcGreen"]

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.Il_Exile_lI

First off the Source 2.0 engine is made for HI-DEF systems. The Wii is not that system. Second, the Source 2.0 engine was not run on the Xbox. Half Life 2 and Counterstrike Xbox was a DOWNGRADED VERSION OF SOURCE 1.0. Third, the Wii is not as powerful as the Xbox. Otherwise you would see games as technicaly demanding as KOTOR,Forza, Jade Empire,or Halo 2 on the Wii. But you don't. Just my opinion though.

I wouldn't say easily, but it is debatable.

Metroid Prime 3 pretty much tries to be Nintendo's Halo but falls short. Auto-lock and fudged controls don't do it for me, though. Looks good for a last-gen game but lacks bump-mapping, where even Halo 1 excels at it. Oh, and the multiplayer in MP3 is poo.

[QUOTE="Il_Exile_lI"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="BudsMcGreen"]

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.BudsMcGreen

First off the Source 2.0 engine is made for HI-DEF systems. The Wii is not that system. Second, the Source 2.0 engine was not run on the Xbox. Half Life 2 and Counterstrike Xbox was a DOWNGRADED VERSION OF SOURCE 1.0. Third, the Wii is not as powerful as the Xbox. Otherwise you would see games as technicaly demanding as KOTOR,Forza, Jade Empire,or Halo 2 on the Wii. But you don't. Just my opinion though.

I wouldn't say easily, but it is debatable.

Metroid Prime 3 pretty much tries to be Nintendo's Halo but falls short. Auto-lock and fudged controls don't do it for me, though. Looks good for a last-gen game but lacks bump-mapping, where even Halo 1 excels at it. Oh, and the multiplayer in MP3 is poo.

Way to show that you never played the damn game :roll:

Errr this is thw wrost "Can the Wii run it" yet, just because there is no way in hell umless theres some CRAZY downgrade to the original game...RingX5

sorry to let you down. i felt like doing a change from last gen games but im going back to it.

yeah probably

hl2 was on xbox

[QUOTE="Il_Exile_lI"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="BudsMcGreen"]

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.BudsMcGreen

First off the Source 2.0 engine is made for HI-DEF systems. The Wii is not that system. Second, the Source 2.0 engine was not run on the Xbox. Half Life 2 and Counterstrike Xbox was a DOWNGRADED VERSION OF SOURCE 1.0. Third, the Wii is not as powerful as the Xbox. Otherwise you would see games as technicaly demanding as KOTOR,Forza, Jade Empire,or Halo 2 on the Wii. But you don't. Just my opinion though.

I wouldn't say easily, but it is debatable.

Metroid Prime 3 pretty much tries to be Nintendo's Halo but falls short. Auto-lock and fudged controls don't do it for me, though. Looks good for a last-gen game but lacks bump-mapping, where even Halo 1 excels at it. Oh, and the multiplayer in MP3 is poo.

hahahaha... I dont even know where to start...

[QUOTE="BudsMcGreen"][QUOTE="Il_Exile_lI"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="BudsMcGreen"]

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]I think the Wii can run the Source 2.0 engine. The Original Xbox could, and the Wii is somewhat more powerful.Shinobishyguy

First off the Source 2.0 engine is made for HI-DEF systems. The Wii is not that system. Second, the Source 2.0 engine was not run on the Xbox. Half Life 2 and Counterstrike Xbox was a DOWNGRADED VERSION OF SOURCE 1.0. Third, the Wii is not as powerful as the Xbox. Otherwise you would see games as technicaly demanding as KOTOR,Forza, Jade Empire,or Halo 2 on the Wii. But you don't. Just my opinion though.

I wouldn't say easily, but it is debatable.

Metroid Prime 3 pretty much tries to be Nintendo's Halo but falls short. Auto-lock and fudged controls don't do it for me, though. Looks good for a last-gen game but lacks bump-mapping, where even Halo 1 excels at it. Oh, and the multiplayer in MP3 is poo.

Way to show that you never played the damn game :roll:

Sorry, I confused it with the previous Metroid Prime. Yeah, no multiplayer is pretty weak IMO.