Can the Xbox 360 4gb console play original Xbox games?

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#1 Posted by arkephonic (6560 posts) -

I have the 360 Slim 360 4gb console without a harddrive in it. I just bought Halo and Halo 2 from Best Buy, and the cashier guy told me he was 90% sure that you need a 250 gig harddrive inside the console in order to play original Xbox games. Before I open them up, I wanna know for sure because I can still return them if they are unopened.

#2 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43208 posts) -
I am nearly 100% sure you need a Hard Drive (In this case the 250GB HDD) in order to play original Xbox games.
#3 Posted by peterw007 (3653 posts) -

He's right. You need the hard drive to emulate the original Xbox hardware.

#4 Posted by arkephonic (6560 posts) -

Does backwards compatibility for original Xbox games only work on the Xbox that comes with the 250gb harddrive already installed? Or can you use a 4gb console, add a 250gb harddrive and still be able to play original Xbox games?

#5 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43208 posts) -

Or can you use a 4gb console, add a 250gb harddrive and still be able to play original Xbox games?

arkephonic

Yes, so long as you have a HDD installed, you will be able to play original Xbox games.

#6 Posted by kuu2 (7846 posts) -

Hopefully Msoft drops the price on the 250gig 360 to $199 this E3. The 4gig is nice but if you can't play the best games fully what is the point.

#7 Posted by Filthybastrd (7124 posts) -

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]Or can you use a 4gb console, add a 250gb harddrive and still be able to play original Xbox games?

Stevo_the_gamer

Yes, so long as you have a HDD installed, you will be able to play original Xbox games.

So you specifically not the 250 one?

#8 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43208 posts) -

So you specifically not the 250 one?

Filthybastrd

Hmm? Specifically need? Yes, you need the 250GB HDD, because the other HDDs won't fit in the newer Slim models.

#9 Posted by Filthybastrd (7124 posts) -

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

So you specifically not the 250 one?

Stevo_the_gamer

Hmm? Specifically need? Yes, you need the 250GB HDD, because the other HDDs won't fit in the newer Slim models.

Thanks, that clears up my thoughts about 360 B/C. There is'nt much of it and it's rather system specific.

#10 Posted by kuu2 (7846 posts) -

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

So you specifically not the 250 one?

Filthybastrd

Hmm? Specifically need? Yes, you need the 250GB HDD, because the other HDDs won't fit in the newer Slim models.

Thanks, that clears up my thoughts about 360 B/C. There is'nt much of it and it's rather system specific.

Much of it compared to what?

#11 Posted by Filthybastrd (7124 posts) -

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Hmm? Specifically need? Yes, you need the 250GB HDD, because the other HDDs won't fit in the newer Slim models.

kuu2

Thanks, that clears up my thoughts about 360 B/C. There is'nt much of it and it's rather system specific.

Much of it compared to what?

Uhh, nothing really. If you really want some SW material then it's pathetic compared to PC.

#12 Posted by arkephonic (6560 posts) -

Lol, Microsoft is such a scam. There are so many hidden fees when it comes to their stuff. To play a game with backwards compatibility, it requires like a few hundred KBs of data to download, and they require you to have a 250 gig harddrive to download it, you can't just download it to your 4gb flash drive.

Scam artists.

#13 Posted by Stevo_the_gamer (43208 posts) -

Lol, Microsoft is such a scam. There are so many hidden fees when it comes to their stuff. To play a game with backwards compatibility, it requires like a few hundred KBs of data to download, and they require you to have a 250 gig harddrive to download it, you can't just download it to your 4gb flash drive.

Scam artists.

arkephonic
I really don't like the 4GB Model. Why Microsoft can't just have all their SKUs have Hard Drives is beyond me.
#14 Posted by Heirren (18645 posts) -

Lol, Microsoft is such a scam. There are so many hidden fees when it comes to their stuff. To play a game with backwards compatibility, it requires like a few hundred KBs of data to download, and they require you to have a 250 gig harddrive to download it, you can't just download it to your 4gb flash drive.

Scam artists.

arkephonic

Yeah, how important is the BC to you though, really? For the price of a 360 harddrive you could buy yourself an original xbox and Nintendo 3DS. Go for the latter.

#15 Posted by Filthybastrd (7124 posts) -

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, Microsoft is such a scam. There are so many hidden fees when it comes to their stuff. To play a game with backwards compatibility, it requires like a few hundred KBs of data to download, and they require you to have a 250 gig harddrive to download it, you can't just download it to your 4gb flash drive.

Scam artists.

Heirren

Yeah, how important is the BC to you though, really? For the price of a 360 harddrive you could buy yourself an original xbox and Nintendo 3DS. Go for the latter.

Personally, I never cared but you should know that BC has been a major SW issue. Especially the ps3 has take heat due to the lack of this but the 360 has'nt actually been all that great either.

In fact, if you love B/C, get a PC and *censored*

#16 Posted by vashkey (33766 posts) -

Lol, Microsoft is such a scam. There are so many hidden fees when it comes to their stuff. To play a game with backwards compatibility, it requires like a few hundred KBs of data to download, and they require you to have a 250 gig harddrive to download it, you can't just download it to your 4gb flash drive.

Scam artists.

arkephonic
Better than taking away the feature entirely and then selling off the classic games as HD ports...
#17 Posted by Jonas008 (428 posts) -
You can always buy a xbox 360 20,60 or 120 hard drive from the old ones and crack open the case and put it in the slim just find it on youtube how to do it its pretty easy!
#18 Posted by arkephonic (6560 posts) -

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, Microsoft is such a scam. There are so many hidden fees when it comes to their stuff. To play a game with backwards compatibility, it requires like a few hundred KBs of data to download, and they require you to have a 250 gig harddrive to download it, you can't just download it to your 4gb flash drive.

Scam artists.

vashkey

Better than taking away the feature entirely and then selling off the classic games as HD ports...

I really don't care about the PS3 Slim not having PS2 BC. It has PS1 BC, and even though I have a fully BC PS3, a Slim PS3 and a PS2, at least you can still buy PS2s in stores. You haven't been able to buy Xbox in stores for like 5 years. I really am not that excited to buy an overpriced harddrive for my 360 when the only thing I would need it for is to play Halo CE and Halo 2. I am also not a big fan of buying used systems (Xbox), because 95% of people out there treat their stuff like absolute ****.

Edit: And I would have rather bought an HD port of Halo and Halo 2 on a stand alone 360 disc than buy the originals like I did and then have to buy a $120gb harddrive just to play them.

#19 Posted by Heirren (18645 posts) -

: And I would have rather bought an HD port of Halo and Halo 2 on a stand alone 360 disc than buy the originals like I did and then have to buy a $120gb harddrive just to play them.

arkephonic

HOly!!!! You're joking, right? There's no way they are selling that for more than $79. I just bought a 2TB external hardrive for just over $100.

#20 Posted by arkephonic (6560 posts) -

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]: And I would have rather bought an HD port of Halo and Halo 2 on a stand alone 360 disc than buy the originals like I did and then have to buy a $120gb harddrive just to play them.

Heirren

HOly!!!! You're joking, right? There's no way they are selling that for more than $79. I just bought a 2TB external hardrive for just over $100.

Yeah dude, M$ sells their 360 harddrive for $120 bucks. It's the only harddrive you can use on the console as well.

#21 Posted by Heirren (18645 posts) -

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]: And I would have rather bought an HD port of Halo and Halo 2 on a stand alone 360 disc than buy the originals like I did and then have to buy a $120gb harddrive just to play them.

arkephonic

HOly!!!! You're joking, right? There's no way they are selling that for more than $79. I just bought a 2TB external hardrive for just over $100.

Yeah dude, M$ sells their 360 harddrive for $120 bucks. It's the only harddrive you can use on the console as well.

How exactly do they get away with that? I mean really. I could buy a wii for almost the same price.

#22 Posted by -RocBoys9489- (6283 posts) -

250GB HDD for $46 NEW on Amazon, 71 reviews, 5 stars Eat your hearts out trolls

#23 Posted by Heirren (18645 posts) -

250GB HDD for $46 NEW on Amazon, 71 reviews, 5 stars Eat your hearts out trolls

-RocBoys9489-

Why would one want to void their warranty knowing that their system will RROD down the line?

#24 Posted by -RocBoys9489- (6283 posts) -

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]

250GB HDD for $46 NEW on Amazon, 71 reviews, 5 stars Eat your hearts out trolls

Heirren

Why would one want to void their warranty knowing that their system will RROD down the line?

Faulty hardware - 360 Slim; Does not compute.

Oh, and these don't void your warranty

#25 Posted by arkephonic (6560 posts) -

Do those cheap harddrives work? Are you sure they don't void warranty?

#26 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28474 posts) -

Hopefully Msoft drops the price on the 250gig 360 to $199 this E3. The 4gig is nice but if you can't play the best games fully what is the point.

kuu2

the 250 gig hard drive has been 129.99 for a long time and is currently on sale for the past 3 months for 99.99

#27 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28474 posts) -

Lol, Microsoft is such a scam. There are so many hidden fees when it comes to their stuff. To play a game with backwards compatibility, it requires like a few hundred KBs of data to download, and they require you to have a 250 gig harddrive to download it, you can't just download it to your 4gb flash drive.

Scam artists.

arkephonic

um actually every original xbox game uses a 2 gig parition for a cache...you dont need just a few hundred kb of data...

#28 Posted by sts106mat (20394 posts) -

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]: And I would have rather bought an HD port of Halo and Halo 2 on a stand alone 360 disc than buy the originals like I did and then have to buy a $120gb harddrive just to play them.

arkephonic

HOly!!!! You're joking, right? There's no way they are selling that for more than $79. I just bought a 2TB external hardrive for just over $100.

Yeah dude, M$ sells their 360 harddrive for $120 bucks. It's the only harddrive you can use on the console as well.

or just buy an original Xbox for £30 and play Halo 2 (since the MP is now gone, whats the big deal).

#29 Posted by PurpleMan5000 (7814 posts) -

[QUOTE="kuu2"]

Hopefully Msoft drops the price on the 250gig 360 to $199 this E3. The 4gig is nice but if you can't play the best games fully what is the point.

WilliamRLBaker

the 250 gig hard drive has been 129.99 for a long time and is currently on sale for the past 3 months for 99.99

I think he was talking about the 250 gig Xbox 360, not just the standalone hard drive.
#30 Posted by Rockman999 (7232 posts) -

Do those cheap harddrives work? Are you sure they don't void warranty?

arkephonic
Just buy an old phat 360 20 gig HDD for $30 and rip the casing off the HDD or you can just buy a regular 250 gig laptop HDD that you'll have to format to the 360's file system which is tricky but you can google a guide that will walk you through the process.
#31 Posted by snowrider09 (1 posts) -
Hello everyone, sorry I know this is an old topic but I was wondering if anyone could help me out with a problem I've been having. I have an Xbox 360 Slim 4GB model and I am looking to get a hard drive that will allow me to play original xbox games. However, I don't have a lot of extra cash and all that Xbox and Microsoft are selling is the 320GB Hard drive for $130, which is right around what I paid for my second hand system. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if either of the hard drives on either of these links will allow me to play original xbox games on my 360? Unless anyone has a 360 slim hard drive they are willing to sell and send to Colorado? Any help would be greatly appreciated! http://www.sears.com/ce-compass-120gb-hard-drive-disc-for-xbox/p-SPM6445016808?prdNo=24&blockNo=274&blockType=G274 http://www.sears.com/ce-compass-60gb-hard-drive-disc-for-xbox/p-SPM6445017008?prdNo=9&blockNo=9&blockType=G9
#32 Posted by lamprey263 (25213 posts) -
you can't install them to the HDD, it runs off the disc, so only space you'd need is the BC update for that game which would be next to nothing, you would need a HDD of course if you download them from the online store, wherever they're hidden not sure about 4GB models, is that memory reserved for future system updates or does it allow for game updates and saves? because if it allows you to store something it should be enough for the BC update
#33 Posted by MstaPrimeMnista (1042 posts) -
:lol: Cant believe you didnt buy a hard drive when you bought the batteries, xbl, wireless adaptor and cooling fan right when you bought the system....
#34 Posted by kitty (114976 posts) -
Wow super old topic. @snowrider09: Just buy a usb flash drive, you can get 32 gigs for like $20.
#35 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28474 posts) -

Wow 3 year old topic...lol ark like he ever owned a 360.

but yeah a note you no longer need an HDD just use a usb stick the 360 supports up to 64 gigs on two 32 gig usb sticks now and you can easily find cheap ones that meet the 360 speed reccomend so the stuff you put on it loads real quick.

#36 Posted by TommyBarban (653 posts) -

this is such a system wars thread..

#37 Posted by delta3074 (18749 posts) -

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"]

250GB HDD for $46 NEW on Amazon, 71 reviews, 5 stars Eat your hearts out trolls

Heirren

Why would one want to void their warranty knowing that their system will RROD down the line?

the new S models are extrmemly reliable, theres no 'knowing' your system will get RROd down the line at all with the New S models, Try harder dude. @arkophonic- Serves you rigt for buying a 4GB, like i said the other day, any gamer worth there salt would not touch the 4GB with a ten foot barge pole
#38 Posted by tenaka2 (17040 posts) -

There are no xbox games that could be classed as 'original'

#39 Posted by delta3074 (18749 posts) -
[QUOTE="MstaPrimeMnista"]:lol: Cant believe you didnt buy a hard drive when you bought the batteries, xbl, wireless adaptor and cooling fan right when you bought the system....

360 S model comes with built in wireless adapter which is actually better than the one in the Ps3 now and it doesn't need a cooling Fan, muppet, there is no such thing as RROD issues with the S model.
#40 Posted by Wickerman777 (1512 posts) -

If you can find one you're better off getting an original Xbox to play Xbox games. There's lots of them that aren't supported on Xbox 360 and the ones that are don't play perfectly on Xbox 360, weird graphical glitches here and there.

#41 Posted by Mcspanky37 (1695 posts) -

250GB HDD for $46 NEW on Amazon, 71 reviews, 5 stars Eat your hearts out trolls

-RocBoys9489-
That HDD doesn't play original xbox games tho
#42 Posted by StormyJoe (6441 posts) -

I have the 360 Slim 360 4gb console without a harddrive in it. I just bought Halo and Halo 2 from Best Buy, and the cashier guy told me he was 90% sure that you need a 250 gig harddrive inside the console in order to play original Xbox games. Before I open them up, I wanna know for sure because I can still return them if they are unopened.

arkephonic

You need "a" HDD, not the 250 GB drive because you will have to download the emulator. I think the emulator is 200MB or so. So, you can play one with a 4GB 360.

My 360 is a "core" that was a launch unit (yep - a launch Core 360), and I bought the 10GB HDD. I played a lot of original XBox games on my 360 when I first got it.