Can so many upcomming gaming platforms coexist?

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#1 Posted by nameless12345 (15125 posts) -

I've been thinking that the game industry is in interesting times.

Not only some developer are making big bucks while others get the "door sign" (not necessarily because their games would be bad - usually the opposite, actually), it also seems that we will have quite many different gaming-capable platforms in the near future.

Besides the existing ones (PC (+ Mac), 360, PS3, WiiU, Vita, 3DS, IOS, Android), which will get continued support, there are also Steam Box, PS4, next Xbox, Ouya and Nvidia Shield comming up. (and perhaps some other, yet unannounced system)

This makes a total of 13 different gaming platforms which is quite the number in these, supposedly, economically unstable times.

There is also an emerging market of stream services which may becomme a big player in in the future and potentially increase the audience tenfold.

So the question that pops up in my head is if there will be a market for all these systems.

If we look in the past, we can see that the market behaved unpredictable.

Former big players like Atari and Sega were forced to leave the console race, Commodore went bankrupt, 3dfx was bought by Nvidia and all the different home computers from the 80s were reduced just to the modern day (Windows) PC. (+ Mac, which survived thanks to an audience that insisted on Apple products)

To just have good games may not be enough.

A system must also have good advertising, good support, affordable price point and do non-gaming related things too. (some platforms, like for example the PC and mobile devices, can survive just on the non-gaming aspects)

So things may not look so bright for some of these systems.

But I also have a theory that could be called "backing by other system" which basically means that a less popular or less established system could be backed by another, more popular and established one.

For example, the PS4 could be backed by PS3, the WiiU by 3DS, Steam Box by Steam, Nvidia Shield by Nvidia graphics cards, ect.

It would also be possible to find a particular niche for some of these systems that would be willing to support them, despite the high price tag. (which is probably what Valve and Nvidia are counting on with the prediced high price tags for their upcomming systems)

The systems could also share games and ports with other, more popular ones.

And while such a strategy would not create a big audience, it could still be worth it due to generating income from what could be called "2nd pillar" systems.

 

So what does SW think - is there a market for all these systems or could we see some stuggle?

Discuss.

 

#2 Posted by MonsieurX (30425 posts) -
Ouya won't be much of a problem
#3 Posted by _Matt_ (8924 posts) -

Interesting and original topic, have a cookie.

On topic, I think they can, as a lot of the emerging platforms are finding gaps in the market. Yes there is of course overlap, and sales will to an extent be shared, but I don't think it will impact too much.


For instance, next gen I will have a gaming pc and next Xbox/PS4, but Project Shield would also appeal to me because it gives a different way of accessing games, same as the Steambox.

#4 Posted by Nintendo_Ownes7 (30917 posts) -

It depends on how the market handles it.

4th Generation there were 7 consoles and 8 handhelds.
5th Generation there were 11 consoles and 10 handhelds.
6th Generation there were 4 consoles and 2 handhelds.
7th Generation there were 3 consoles and 6 handhelds.

I didn't include redesigns I only included the first iteration of all the handhelds. For Consoles I didn't even include add-ons.

#5 Posted by nameless12345 (15125 posts) -

It depends on how the market handles it.

4th Generation there were 7 consoles and 8 handhelds.
5th Generation there were 11 consoles and 10 handhelds.
6th Generation there were 4 consoles and 2 handhelds.
7th Generation there were 3 consoles and 6 handhelds.

I didn't include redesigns I only included the first iteration of all the handhelds. For Consoles I didn't even include add-ons.

Nintendo_Ownes7

 

I think current-gen was kinda optimal because no systems dropped out like in the past gens.

Wii had a market all to itself while PS360 eventually evened out. (after the initial problems PS3 had)

DS dominated the handheld market with PSP getting a decent success (far 2nd place tho) and PC existed a seperate existance like the whole time despite the "consolization" and "PC gaming dying" thing going on.

There was even a market for Wii knock-offs and the like.

I think things could change a little in the future but I can't predict what exactly will happen.

#6 Posted by mariokart64fan (19522 posts) -

lol ouya is just andriod for home, no thanks i got a phone already

  , shield just a pc inside a small box same for  that  other one ,   

i think the main 3 will still be the main players except microsoft might have a problem on their hands in terms of market next gen ,  -if they so much as do what many rumors suggest theyll have to do what sony did and that is grit their teeth and hope to come up later in the gen ,  wiiu wont have a problem because once the main line selling nintendo games come in abundance there wont be a         reason why it will sell this low,   its feb was slightly better without new games ,  so im sure once new games start pumping out , it will reach ps3 360 territory -50-60 million , when the dust settles, and im n ot to  sure whos go ing to pick up wiis numbers 

#7 Posted by Joedgabe (5115 posts) -

I think it's safe to say that people that play games for a Hobby won't really be interested in OUYA and probably most don't trust buying the Wii U so i have a feeling the Wii U isn't going to be as lucky as the Wii. As for Sony and M$ I have always suspected they are owned by the same man so i have no doubt if anything they'll probably be even more similar in the next generation than what they are already... So I see success in M$ and Sony depending on their price ( has to be around 400 for success ) while I see Nintendo still getting away with putting mario loggo and selling millions w/o breaking a sweat. If i had to guess probably less than 10% of all the people that work on video games get a pay check from nintendo so if anything should die would probably be safest for most if it was them. 

#8 Posted by KungfuKitten (21130 posts) -

Nope they cannot and it's going to be a slaughterfest.

#9 Posted by Ly_the_Fairy (8652 posts) -

It's not as if every single platform is targeting the exact same market.

#10 Posted by KungfuKitten (21130 posts) -

It's not as if every single platform is targeting the exact same market.

Ly_the_Fairy
OMG poor you. Did you lose a bet?
#11 Posted by lundy86_4 (43526 posts) -

Are there that many? How many compete within the same market?

#12 Posted by Ly_the_Fairy (8652 posts) -

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

It's not as if every single platform is targeting the exact same market.

KungfuKitten

OMG poor you. Did you lose a bet?

Yah :P I said Tomb Raider would score a 7.5

#13 Posted by NathanDrakeSwag (5127 posts) -

The next xbox won't be a gaming platform.

#14 Posted by MonsieurX (30425 posts) -

The next xbox won't be a gaming platform.

NathanDrakeSwag
It plays games Just like the PS4 will be a social media platform,right?
#15 Posted by ryangcnx-2 (1240 posts) -

Pretty much Sony, Nintendo and probobly MS will stay. iOS/Android phones will get casual gaming support. PC will always be there. Personally, I see the Steambox failing hard, along with Ouya or whatever it's called. Dedicated gamres won't care about Ouya, Steambox and iOS/Android. They will stick to PC, PS4, 720 and Wii-U as well as continue to support the 3ds and Vita for portable gaming. If anything, the phone/tablet market is going to be the first to go since it's a fad. Ultimately tablets are for old people who like to play their casual casino games and aren't intellegent enought to actually own a PC to play those games. And gaming on phone is pretty much run by games like angry birds and bejeweled (games that are good for standing in line for, but nothing you would sit at home and play. 

So for true gaming, we have Sony, MS and Nintendo, PC. All the others are still trying to go after those casual gamers and others that are misfit products.

#16 Posted by campzor (34932 posts) -
its oversaturated, cut all the fat (iOS,Android, Wii U) and it would be economically better.
#17 Posted by Gue1 (10197 posts) -

just buy PlayStation and forget about the rest. They are irrelevant.