Bungie Says It Loves Xbox and PlayStation Fans Equally

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#51 Edited by Jynxzor (9307 posts) -

Developer: We love everyone who buys our games.

News at 11.

#52 Posted by silversix_ (14242 posts) -

@mems_1224 said:

Kinda does seem like Bungie is turning their back on the fanbase that made them.

LOL

And it's just the opposite. Without Bungie, there would be no lemmings.

If there is anyone to blame, it's M$ for not allowing them the creative freedom they wanted.

This precisely. Bungie game their sperm and a lems were born. Without them there would be no such things as a lemming.

#53 Edited by SolidTy (42772 posts) -

@Zaibach said:

@SolidTy said:

That's nice Bungie said that and I don't suspect PR at all /S. Activision sunk over half a billion dollars on this series...

Now that Bungie said those nice words, go reserve their game, get ready to Beta test their game, and eventually buy their game.

It should be noted their stated goal is graphical parity as well. After the PS4 Alpha looking like a PS360 game, I'm not surprised.

are you in the beta, Ty?

Yes indeed on July 17th. I wasn't a fan of the Alpha and I'm not expecting much, but it was a solid little game for what they were trying to do and what I witnessed. I'll give Destiny another go since the asking price was free...heh.

Once in the Destiny Beta, Bungie asks the Platform. The PS4 gets more time than the Xbone, so that's the Beta I'm going to do.

"The online beta for Destiny will arrive on Xbox One and Xbox 360 starting July 23rd and run until 2:59AM ET on July 28th.

Those in the PlayStation camp are still getting a better deal; on PS3 and PS4, the upcoming beta kicks off July 17th. Bungie and Activision will take everything offline for two days of maintenance starting July 21st, but Sony's customers will ultimately have more time to put the game through its paces."

#54 Posted by PapaTrop (817 posts) -

With how often Bungie states this it seems pretty apparent that what they've been doing with Destiny has been rustling the jimmies of their community for quite a while.

Oh well I guess.

#55 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (25137 posts) -

Kinda sad they'll only be known as "The Halo devs".

#56 Posted by Desmonic (13739 posts) -

@LegatoSkyheart: Depends on how good or well received Destiny is. If they manage to turn it into a bigger franchise they'll be known as the Halo AND Destiny devs :P

But most of their Halo fanbase was/is too young to even know what Myth or Marathon were so....

#57 Posted by CrownKingArthur (4633 posts) -
@Desmonic said:

@LegatoSkyheart: Depends on how good or well received Destiny is. If they manage to turn it into a bigger franchise they'll be known as the Halo AND Destiny devs :P

But most of their Halo fanbase was/is too young to even know what Myth or Marathon were so....

iirc marathon was the first game where one could look up and down as well as left and right.

#58 Posted by clr84651 (5405 posts) -

Bungie was in bed with MS for many years. MS pissed them off & now they're seeing Sony too. LOL!

#59 Posted by lawlessx (46634 posts) -

@Desmonic said:

@LegatoSkyheart: Depends on how good or well received Destiny is. If they manage to turn it into a bigger franchise they'll be known as the Halo AND Destiny devs :P

But most of their Halo fanbase was/is too young to even know what Myth or Marathon were so....

iirc marathon was the first game where one could look up and down as well as left and right.

and duel wield pistols i think

#60 Edited by santoron (7717 posts) -

@mems_1224 said:

Kinda does seem like Bungie is turning their back on the fanbase that made them. Whether it was their decision or not, Destiny is being pushed as a PS4 exclusive in all the ads and its alienating their Xbox fanbase. Cant really blame people for being upset at them.

Personally, I dont really care. Destiny doesn't even look that interesting to me right now.

Yeah, the game doesn't look that great. But in no way is it "being pushed as a PS4 exclusive" and a trip to any game store makes that obvious with preorders being pushed for four (4!!!!) consoles and the platforms listed CLEARLY on any promotional material. What we have here is XBox fanboys flipping out over a practice that is both old and from which they have repeatedly been the beneficiary, and it's almost as sad as it is hilarious.

It wasn't that long ago that we were seeing Fallout DLC announced as exclusive to the 360 with absolutely no information on a possible release on other platforms for what? 6 months? Now XB1ers already know the details and they're still acting like spoiled children.

A last point: Bungie didn't make this agreement. Activision did, and it almost certainly has to do with Kotick's displeasure with MS going crazy with their Titanfall tie in. Kotick viewed MS as an ally (from years of these very types of agreements) and the heads of Respawn as enemies. This promotional agreement is a warning to MS that Activision has options, pure and simple.

Frankly a couple months ago I would've said this was a complete waste of time and money. But the fanboy whining has given both Sony and Activision exactly the response they dreamed of. Unbelievable.

#61 Posted by lawlessx (46634 posts) -
@santoron said:

@mems_1224 said:

Kinda does seem like Bungie is turning their back on the fanbase that made them. Whether it was their decision or not, Destiny is being pushed as a PS4 exclusive in all the ads and its alienating their Xbox fanbase. Cant really blame people for being upset at them.

Personally, I dont really care. Destiny doesn't even look that interesting to me right now.

Yeah, the game doesn't look that great. But in no way is it "being pushed as a PS4 exclusive" and a trip to any game store makes that obvious with preorders being pushed for four (4!!!!) consoles and the platforms listed CLEARLY on any promotional material. What we have here is XBox fanboys flipping out over a practice that is both old and from which they have repeatedly been the beneficiary, and it's almost as sad as it is hilarious.

It wasn't that long ago that we were seeing Fallout DLC announced as exclusive to the 360 with absolutely no information on a possible release on other platforms for what? 6 months? Now XB1ers already know the details and they're still acting like spoiled children.

A last point: Bungie didn't make this agreement. Activision did, and it almost certainly has to do with Kotick's displeasure with MS going crazy with their Titanfall tie in. Kotick viewed MS as an ally (from years of these very types of agreements) and the heads of Respawn as enemies. This promotional agreement is a warning to MS that Activision has options, pure and simple.

Frankly a couple months ago I would've said this was a complete waste of time and money. But the fanboy whining has given both Sony and Activision exactly the response they dreamed of. Unbelievable.

The game is being marketed more towards the PS4 than the other platforms. It a smart move for bungie since they would need to give ps3/ps4 owners enough reason to pick up the game. Giving them first shot at alpha/beta and exclusive DLC is all just to help give them a good first impression. Personally for me the DLC doesn't appear to be anything worth bragging or crying about as opposed to the Fallout 3 and GTA4 DLC

You claim this all has something to do with Microsoft's relationship with Respawn and that they're somehow punishing them and making a statement ..yet Call of duty:AW's DLC will land on the xbox360 and xbox one first. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-dlc-will-come-to-xbox-first/1100-6419394/

a good reminder that this game of "the console wars" is only a game that fanboys play

#62 Posted by Sagemode87 (927 posts) -

@mems_1224: Welcome to last gen for Playstation fans. PS fans had to sit back as Resident Evil, Ace Combat, Final Fantasy, and Tomb Raider get pushed as 360 exclusives. In addition, 360 wasn't even as dominant as PS4 looks to be. Get over it, PS4 is the money maker this gen.

#63 Posted by lawlessx (46634 posts) -

@mems_1224: Welcome to last gen for Playstation fans. PS fans had to sit back as Resident Evil, Ace Combat, Final Fantasy, and Tomb Raider get pushed as 360 exclusives. In addition, 360 wasn't even as dominant as PS4 looks to be. Get over it, PS4 is the money maker this gen.

final fantasy 13,RE,and tomb raider weren't pushed as 360 titles..

#64 Posted by Sagemode87 (927 posts) -

@lawlessx: After those series built their fanbase on PS1 and PS2, those games were only advertised as 360 games in America. Not sure about Europe.

#65 Posted by lostrib (35674 posts) -

@lawlessx: After those series built their fanbase on PS1 and PS2, those games were only advertised as 360 games in America. Not sure about Europe.

prove it

#66 Posted by lawlessx (46634 posts) -
@lostrib said:

@Sagemode87 said:

@lawlessx: After those series built their fanbase on PS1 and PS2, those games were only advertised as 360 games in America. Not sure about Europe.

prove it

I think he's strictly talking about TV ads.

#67 Edited by AdobeArtist (22845 posts) -

@uninspiredcup said:

My friends, Bungie single handedly ruined the FPS genre. Retract the emotionally transparency regarding perceived betrayal, since, if you like Halo, chances are you never liked FPS in the first place. PC for FPS.

That's fascinating. Tell us more.

For mercies sake, do NOT encourage him :o

#68 Posted by Sagemode87 (927 posts) -

@lostrib: How cute, antagonizing me just to do it. Did I say something you didn't like?

#69 Posted by Sagemode87 (927 posts) -
#70 Edited by santoron (7717 posts) -

@lawlessx said:

You claim this all has something to do with Microsoft's relationship with Respawn and that they're somehow punishing them and making a statement ..yet Call of duty:AW's DLC will land on the xbox360 and xbox one first. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/e3-2014-call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-dlc-will-come-to-xbox-first/1100-6419394/

Of course, I don't think anyone around here DOESN'T know about the continuing CoD relationship, but that doesn't negate my point. Kotick isn't an idiot and craves money like an addict his fix. He's not going to cancel a long standing and lucrative partnership with MS when he can use his new franchise to send this message. And look around: it's working. Of course you're right that CEOs aren't playing "console wars" but if you think there's nothing personal between Kotick and Respawn I've got a bridge to sell you.

The main point was that it's moronic for fanboys to blame any of this on Bungie, because this decision has nothing to do with the dev. It's a publishing move, and one you'd think people would be used to by now, especially around here. I'd be happy to see these deals go away, but I'm not going to act like a child when one comes along.

#71 Posted by lostrib (35674 posts) -

@lostrib: How cute, antagonizing me just to do it. Did I say something you didn't like?

Like what?

#72 Posted by lostrib (35674 posts) -

@speedfreak48t5p said:

That's fascinating. Tell us more.

For mercies sake, do NOT encourage him :o

You guys should make the term "My friends" a bannable offense :P

#73 Posted by AdobeArtist (22845 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@AdobeArtist said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

That's fascinating. Tell us more.

For mercies sake, do NOT encourage him :o

You guys should make the term "My friends" a bannable offense :P

I've been tempted before, lol :P

#74 Posted by lostrib (35674 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@AdobeArtist said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

That's fascinating. Tell us more.

For mercies sake, do NOT encourage him :o

You guys should make the term "My friends" a bannable offense :P

I've been tempted before, lol :P

I did like your comment about his self-aggrandizing when you locked his last thread

#75 Posted by StormyJoe (5101 posts) -

@freedomfreak: They may say that, but they sure have positioned Destiny to be a PS4 game that is "also" available on XBox platforms. Kind of like what Ubisoft did with Splinter Cell.

#76 Edited by coasterguy65 (5920 posts) -
@ziggy-mandias said:

I don't see what the fuss is all about with all this complaining!

So what PS4 gets Exclusive TIMED content which means it will be out on Xbox at some point. You don't see Playstation gamers complaining that Microsoft paid for the Battlefield and CoD DLC to appear on xbox first. Also if I remember rightly it was Xbox gamers several years ago using in arguments "PS3 was rubbish they have no games. We got Forza, Fable, Gears of War and Halo."

Now I was a 360 Gamer pretty much 99% of last generation of gaming. Didn't really look into Playstation games has I saw the PS3 as a glorified Blu-Ray player. Hell I still do think its that.. But I own one. As well as a Xbox 360.

Now bungie came out last year at E3 stating that this exclusive content was coming to PS4 and yet those people who are complaining and bitching are now stating Bungie screwed them? If that tiny bit of content for Destiny is what you call being screwed and it was that important. I have one question. Why did you buy an Xbox One knowing that bit of content for Destiny is going to be on PS4 and NOT XboxOne. Hello... you have sunset overdrive, dead rising 3, ryse, killer instinct... HALO do I need to continue. Your purchase was based upon the games you wanted on that system not whether or not you got some extra content on Destiny.

It's not the exclusive content per say. It's the fact that they are basically crapping on the fanbase that supported them, and helped them to grow into the company they are.

To put it into perspective for PS people. Imagine Naughty Dog going multi-platform with their next big game. Then offering exclusive DLC for it for Xbox only. It wouldn't go over well right?

Personally I don't really care since I'm not getting Halo on Mars anyway, and if I were I would be able to get it for my PS4. However, I do get what the fanbase is pissed off over.

#77 Edited by Heil68 (43921 posts) -

and by golly that's all that matters.

#78 Posted by Zaibach (13444 posts) -

@SolidTy said:

@Zaibach said:

@SolidTy said:

That's nice Bungie said that and I don't suspect PR at all /S. Activision sunk over half a billion dollars on this series...

Now that Bungie said those nice words, go reserve their game, get ready to Beta test their game, and eventually buy their game.

It should be noted their stated goal is graphical parity as well. After the PS4 Alpha looking like a PS360 game, I'm not surprised.

are you in the beta, Ty?

Yes indeed on July 17th. I wasn't a fan of the Alpha and I'm not expecting much, but it was a solid little game for what they were trying to do and what I witnessed. I'll give Destiny another go since the asking price was free...heh.

Once in the Destiny Beta, Bungie asks the Platform. The PS4 gets more time than the Xbone, so that's the Beta I'm going to do.

"The online beta for Destiny will arrive on Xbox One and Xbox 360 starting July 23rd and run until 2:59AM ET on July 28th.

Those in the PlayStation camp are still getting a better deal; on PS3 and PS4, the upcoming beta kicks off July 17th. Bungie and Activision will take everything offline for two days of maintenance starting July 21st, but Sony's customers will ultimately have more time to put the game through its paces."

I went into the alpha with zero expectations and came out really liking it and wanting to play more, I even went and pre-ordered just to get into the beta.

Hope to see you on the battlefield, fellow guardian

#79 Posted by SolidTy (42772 posts) -

@Zaibach said:

@SolidTy said:

@Zaibach said:

@SolidTy said:

That's nice Bungie said that and I don't suspect PR at all /S. Activision sunk over half a billion dollars on this series...

Now that Bungie said those nice words, go reserve their game, get ready to Beta test their game, and eventually buy their game.

It should be noted their stated goal is graphical parity as well. After the PS4 Alpha looking like a PS360 game, I'm not surprised.

are you in the beta, Ty?

Yes indeed on July 17th. I wasn't a fan of the Alpha and I'm not expecting much, but it was a solid little game for what they were trying to do and what I witnessed. I'll give Destiny another go since the asking price was free...heh.

Once in the Destiny Beta, Bungie asks the Platform. The PS4 gets more time than the Xbone, so that's the Beta I'm going to do.

"The online beta for Destiny will arrive on Xbox One and Xbox 360 starting July 23rd and run until 2:59AM ET on July 28th.

Those in the PlayStation camp are still getting a better deal; on PS3 and PS4, the upcoming beta kicks off July 17th. Bungie and Activision will take everything offline for two days of maintenance starting July 21st, but Sony's customers will ultimately have more time to put the game through its paces."

I went into the alpha with zero expectations and came out really liking it and wanting to play more, I even went and pre-ordered just to get into the beta.

Hope to see you on the battlefield, fellow guardian

Right on! :)

#80 Posted by cainetao11 (17281 posts) -

Is it PR? Of course. But does that mean Bungie doesn't like gamers that game on Xbox? Say that out loud........................its so effin stupid.

#81 Edited by cainetao11 (17281 posts) -

@remiks00 said:

@freedomfreak said:

@k2theswiss said:

U do know Activision is one whos paying all the bills. Even though bungie owns ip, I bet they have some sort agreement lets them make businesses decissions like this.

And who really cares.... ooo little extra dance moves and mission that won't mean nothing to the a story.

Oh yeah, but (not all) people aren't really lashing out at Activision for this. I've seen a lot of Bungie hatred, so I decided to roll with that.

I honestly don't care, since I have no interested in this, but it does remind me of situations like FF13 for 360. Death threats and everything. Classy stuff.

Exactly, same shit. Different day. Both fanboy factions are idiots that need to realize that most of these publishers don't love you lol; and you're not entitled to shit. Bungie's owners (Activision) love whoever is throwing the most money their way, the devs don't really have a voice. Sony paid for exclusive content. This is just PR, nothing more; nothing less.

quoted for truth

#82 Edited by blackace (20548 posts) -

Nobody could love lemmings.

Same could be said for the childish hypocritical Cows on here as well. lol!!

Now sure why anyone even cares about this since Namco, Capcom, SquareEnix and another 1/2 developers turned their backs on Sony last gen when they mades exclusive games like Ace Combat 6, Tales of Vesperia, Naruto: Rise of the Ninja, Lost Odyssey, Ridge Racer 6, Infinite Undiscovery, etc.. for the XBox 360 only. At least Destiny is multiplat. If gamers are that angry, just don't buy it. Voice your opinion with your wallets.

#83 Posted by ziggy-mandias (12 posts) -

@ziggy-mandias said:

I don't see what the fuss is all about with all this complaining!

So what PS4 gets Exclusive TIMED content which means it will be out on Xbox at some point. You don't see Playstation gamers complaining that Microsoft paid for the Battlefield and CoD DLC to appear on xbox first. Also if I remember rightly it was Xbox gamers several years ago using in arguments "PS3 was rubbish they have no games. We got Forza, Fable, Gears of War and Halo."

Now I was a 360 Gamer pretty much 99% of last generation of gaming. Didn't really look into Playstation games has I saw the PS3 as a glorified Blu-Ray player. Hell I still do think its that.. But I own one. As well as a Xbox 360.

Now bungie came out last year at E3 stating that this exclusive content was coming to PS4 and yet those people who are complaining and bitching are now stating Bungie screwed them? If that tiny bit of content for Destiny is what you call being screwed and it was that important. I have one question. Why did you buy an Xbox One knowing that bit of content for Destiny is going to be on PS4 and NOT XboxOne. Hello... you have sunset overdrive, dead rising 3, ryse, killer instinct... HALO do I need to continue. Your purchase was based upon the games you wanted on that system not whether or not you got some extra content on Destiny.

It's not the exclusive content per say. It's the fact that they are basically crapping on the fanbase that supported them, and helped them to grow into the company they are.

To put it into perspective for PS people. Imagine Naughty Dog going multi-platform with their next big game. Then offering exclusive DLC for it for Xbox only. It wouldn't go over well right?

Personally I don't really care since I'm not getting Halo on Mars anyway, and if I were I would be able to get it for my PS4. However, I do get what the fanbase is pissed off over.

I do get why people are complaining. Personally I don't care about DLC has its not the full game. Plus its only Timed Exclusive therefore its going to be coming out on Xbox Eventually anyhow. Besides that from what we hear its only a map and few bits like weapons and clothing so its nothing major. Also Xbox Gamers liked to rub it in PSGamers faces when Titanfall came out exclusively on Xbone as am sure they will do when Sunset overdrive comes out. So in a way its WTF they kicking off for when they got EXCLUSIVE games coming out.

A final note Bungie did state at last years E3 that PS had the extra DLC content deal... BEFORE the consoles were released. If not having armour or whatever TIMED DLC is what your (meaning the gamers in question) complaining about then and is so important then why buy the XBONE when you knew before both consoles were released.

#84 Posted by Legend500 (128 posts) -

Bungie is a company. The aim of a company is to make money. If you feel "betrayed" or "stabbed in the back" by a company then it is time to readjust your thought process.

#85 Posted by rrjim1 (876 posts) -

IMO Bungie / ACTIVISION made a mistake with there DLC, they should have sold both Sony and MS a DLC deal. That way everyone would have been happy and they wouldn't have lost some X1 sales.

#86 Posted by stuff238 (618 posts) -

All I read is "Multiplatform with PS4 as the superior version is best for business".

#87 Posted by vashkey (33722 posts) -

@Desmonic said:

@LegatoSkyheart: Depends on how good or well received Destiny is. If they manage to turn it into a bigger franchise they'll be known as the Halo AND Destiny devs :P

But most of their Halo fanbase was/is too young to even know what Myth or Marathon were so....

I think it has more to do with the fact that Myth and Marathon weren't run away successes like Halo than age. I don't know anyone of any age who were aware of Myth or Marathon prior to Halo bringing Bungie to the spotlight.

#88 Edited by vashkey (33722 posts) -

@UnbiasedPoster said:

@mems_1224 said:

Kinda does seem like Bungie is turning their back on the fanbase that made them.

LOL

And it's just the opposite. Without Bungie, there would be no lemmings.

If there is anyone to blame, it's M$ for not allowing them the creative freedom they wanted.

The creative freedom to do what? Turn Halo into into Borderlands? I doubt Microsoft would have minded, cheaper than creating a brand new studio from scratch.

The reason Bungie left was money. They wanted to sell their games on more systems and they wanted to reap more from their ip, which is fine, but lets not turn this into anything more. Bungie isn't delivering some sort of artistic vision not possible at Microsoft, Destiny isn't a risky proposition. They just wanted more money and their partnership with Activision should make that glaringly obvious.

Working with Sony or Nintendo wouldn't have made that desire any different, which by the way, is why Bungie is offering exclusive content on Sony platforms. Money. From Sony.

If Bungie were concerned with putting this on the best platform it'd be on PC. Bungie offering exclusive content on Playstation has everything to do with money and not with their beliefs on systems

#89 Posted by ccagracing (795 posts) -

@vashkey:

I agree with you. I'm a big Halo fan and I'm not sure about Destiny. When Bungie left Microsoft I was hoping we where going to get some bold new IP from them but it looks like we have a Halo/borderlands mashup that could potentially not be as good as either. It's very similar in style to Halo, enemies look similar, even a homage to guilty spark 343 in the game lol.

#90 Posted by hiphops_savior (7874 posts) -
  1. Bungie wants to make an ambitious game.
  2. Activision agrees to fund it, but needs to find the biggest market.
  3. Last gen, the Wii had the biggest market, but Xbox 360 and PS3 combined is bigger.
  4. The trend is similar, except PS4 is now in the lead and Xbox One dead last.
  5. PS4 and Xbox One uses the same architecture now, while the Wii U opts for PowerPC according to Engadget.
  6. Going by Engadget's argument, it doesn't matter how badly Xbox One sells. It can piggyback off of PS4 due to similar architecture.
  7. PS4 and Xbox shares the same market in that regard.
  8. Thus, Bungie comes out and says "it loves Xbox and Playstation fans equally".

It's good PR, it's accurate according to them, and it eases sentiments.