Bravely Default Outsells Lightning Returns FF13

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#1 Posted by charizard1605 (60796 posts) -

Bwahahahahaha! In the month of January, Bravely Default ended up selling more in the US than Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII. bravely Default has also outsold Lightning Returns in Japan.

This is amazing because:

Bravely Default is a new IP on a handheld which is turn based and was discarded by Square Enix as being too Japanese and so old school that it would not be successful, and was passed over for localization until Nintendo picked it up and brought it here

Lightning Returns is a mainline Final Fantasy game, with all the power of the brand, which is on multiple platforms, got a whole lot more advertising, and has shiny graphics and new gameplay systems and shit.

Maybe this will finally show Square Enix that what we want isn't more Lightning crap or bullshit re-invention of the series, but just the same old old school Final Fantasy games that made the brand so big in the first place.

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#2 Posted by Pffrbt (6596 posts) -

Still going to buy Lightning Returns before I get Bravely Default. Just waiting for the price to go down more while I finish 13-2.

#3 Edited by Crazyguy105 (9513 posts) -

You need to cool down with the threads. You aren't going to get any more popular.

That said, both games are great. One is old school while another tried and succeeded pretty well with the combat+time limit.

#4 Posted by Newhopes (4661 posts) -

To be expected FF13 sucks.

#5 Edited by bbkkristian (14967 posts) -

Square Enix of America must be in complete shock right now. Maybe now their localization team will open their eyes to games that have a market here in the states (HANDHELD GAMING ISNT DEAD, they haven't come to this realization).

Isn't it funny? Before the Operation Rainfall trio, I would have never thought of Nintendo to be the one to localize niche japanese games and Square to pass them down. Times sure have changed.

#6 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10383 posts) -

i just hope these crappy FF games bankrupt SE some day soon.

#7 Posted by LJS9502_basic (152270 posts) -

Will def buy Lightening Returns....maybe Bravely Default.

#8 Posted by Jag85 (5245 posts) -

Wow, that's pretty unexpected...

In my other Silicon Studio graphics engine thread, when the suggestion came up of a next-gen HD Bravely game using that engine, I was doubting it for a moment... But with its unexpected success, Square Enix might consider it after all.

#9 Posted by Shmiity (5299 posts) -

How is anyone surprised by this? Bravely Default was fucking great. FF13-3 was absolutely poopy. This should not be a shock to anyone. Especially after FF13-3's negative critical reaction. I kept saying how Bravely was the best FF in 10 years.

#10 Posted by silversix_ (15799 posts) -

If art style wasn't as mediocre i'd buy a 3ds to play BD. I really hate it when they're forcing you to play as a loli...

#11 Posted by charizard1605 (60796 posts) -

@silversix_ said:

If art style wasn't as mediocre i'd buy a 3ds to play BD. I really hate it when they're forcing you to play as a loli...

The artstyle is beautiful! It evokes Final Fantasy IX.

#12 Posted by Allicrombie (25514 posts) -

take that, inferior Final Fantasy game !

#13 Posted by Shewgenja (10672 posts) -

YES!!!! Go Bravely Default!

#14 Posted by Bigboi500 (30951 posts) -

Good. Lightning Returns is total garbage.

#15 Posted by Kaze_no_Mirai (11603 posts) -

Isn't LR a spin off and not a mainline game? Anyway, good for BD, a lot of people seem to really like it. I'm about 20 hours in and pretty bored honestly. The story is just not entertaining.

#16 Posted by PsychoLemons (2344 posts) -

In your face Final Sci-Fi Fantasy!

#17 Posted by Pffrbt (6596 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@silversix_ said:

If art style wasn't as mediocre i'd buy a 3ds to play BD. I really hate it when they're forcing you to play as a loli...

The artstyle is beautiful! It evokes Final Fantasy IX.

The environments and character art are great, it's just the in game models are creepy and gross. They look like dead-eyed doll children with thunder thighs and no feet.

#18 Posted by Basinboy (11373 posts) -

To the gaming community: good on ya.

#19 Posted by nini200 (10379 posts) -

@Bigboi500 said:

Good. Lightning Returns is total garbage.

#20 Edited by silversix_ (15799 posts) -

@Pffrbt said:

@charizard1605 said:

@silversix_ said:

If art style wasn't as mediocre i'd buy a 3ds to play BD. I really hate it when they're forcing you to play as a loli...

The artstyle is beautiful! It evokes Final Fantasy IX.

The environments and character art are great, it's just the in game models are creepy and gross. They look like dead-eyed doll children with thunder thighs and no feet.

pretty much this

#21 Edited by Sphire (2074 posts) -

Lightning Returns has a pretty damn good combat system. Shit story, but it's the only place I'll get a battle system like it, so I'll take it. At its best, the battle system is just, wow. Too bad people want to just jump on the hate.

I'd have played Bravely Default if could bring myself to play RPGs on handhelds. After Valkyria Chronicles 2, I just felt so underwhelmed by how much is sacrificed in handheld games/RPGs over a console version. What's the point really, just for the story? That's always massively subjective. For instance I'd have gotten 999 too, but after seeing a mate play it, I couldn't care less about that series now.

#22 Posted by Animal-Mother (27136 posts) -

@Crazyguy105 said:

You need to cool down with the threads. You aren't going to get any more popular.

That said, both games are great. One is old school while another tried and succeeded pretty well with the combat+time limit.

Well said. Lightening returns is so-so. It's ok and it's got it's quirks but it's fun ( to me nonetheless)

Glad to see a new IP doing so well though.

#23 Posted by ConanTheStoner (7202 posts) -

Great news of course... just not sure if it'll change the thought process over at SE.

"Oh people didn't really like anything about FFXIII? It was one of the worst received games in the series? Let's make two direct sequels!... People don't like Lightning you say? Fuck that, she's the greatest character ever!" <--- Their mindset for an entire generation.

All the while leaving their fanbase starving for the resurrection of old IPs, or even the revisiting of FF titles they actually liked.

SE lives in their own universe. They don't seem to care about pleasing fans and it seems they're actually scared of making money.

#24 Edited by lamprey263 (25250 posts) -

I got Bravely Default but have yet to play it, still working on Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, but that's next on my list.

I'd still want to play Lightning Returns though, I actually enjoyed both the other FFXIII games, they weren't great but they were enjoyable; I think people have way too high expectations. I'll pick it up when it gets cheaper.

#25 Posted by treedoor (7648 posts) -

Good to see JRPG fans getting some sense.

#26 Posted by Gargus (2147 posts) -

And call of duty outsells them both. See I can pick a random game and play that game also.

But really, it doesn't matter.

#27 Posted by Pffrbt (6596 posts) -

@Gargus said:

And call of duty outsells them both. See I can pick a random game and play that game also.

Call of Duty isn't a JRPG or made by Square so it isn't even relevant.

#28 Edited by charizard1605 (60796 posts) -

@Gargus said:

And call of duty outsells them both. See I can pick a random game and play that game also.

But really, it doesn't matter.

Your insecurities whenever someone or something not associated with Sony do well are very cute

#29 Posted by VendettaRed07 (14012 posts) -

Good.

To Square, and JRPG developers in general...*ehem*

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH TURN BASED BATTLE SYSTEMS. PEOPLE STILL LIKE THEM.. AND GENERALLY PREFER THEM TO ALL THE NONSENSE BROKEN BATTLESYSTEMS YOU HAVE TRIED TO REPLACE THEM WITH FOR THE PAST DECADE.

So PLEASE. Stop it.. Just stop.... With all the nonsense. Give us a solid battle system. It doesn't need to be anything weird or super different. Some minor tweaks to an ATB system is fine. Focus on story, setting, world, pacing, character design, level design, magic, leveling systems, jobs, classes.. etc. Work and focus on all that.

#30 Posted by Jag85 (5245 posts) -

@silversix_ said:

If art style wasn't as mediocre i'd buy a 3ds to play BD. I really hate it when they're forcing you to play as a loli...

It's called "chibi"... "loli" is something completely different.

@Pffrbt said:

The environments and character art are great, it's just the in game models are creepy and gross. They look like dead-eyed doll children with thunder thighs and no feet.

Reminds me of when I first played FFVII. I remember how incredible the artwork, CGI and environments looked... until I saw those "chibi" character models.

#31 Posted by Pffrbt (6596 posts) -

@Jag85 said:

Reminds me of when I first played FFVII. I remember how incredible the artwork, CGI and environments looked... until I saw those "chibi" character models.

I don't mind chibi character models, these ones are just really off-putting though.

#32 Posted by Bangerman15 (1978 posts) -

It's honestly a shame what SE has done to the FF franchise and 15 is looking to Butcher it even more. They keep trying all this crouching tiger jumping all over the place anime action game play and that's not what FF is about. Just stick to ATB or turn based for FF and try the other crap on new IP's. Look at pokemon, has been turn based since it started and is still loved and sells millions of copies like crazy. Anyways, can't wait to play bravely default, just waiting for a drought since I'm playing multiple different games right now. As for FF 13LR, I'll get that when it's in the bargain bin.

#34 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (3766 posts) -

C'mon Square, give me another Lightning game.

#35 Posted by silversix_ (15799 posts) -

@Jag85 said:

@silversix_ said:

If art style wasn't as mediocre i'd buy a 3ds to play BD. I really hate it when they're forcing you to play as a loli...

It's called "chibi"... "loli" is something completely different.

ewwwwww chibi or loli it looks like shit, worst ever, my eyes are melting ewwwwwwwww.

#36 Edited by DJ-Lafleur (34263 posts) -

I actually like that SE tries to reinvent FF, and I like it when devs change gameplay within a series, even if sometimes it is drastic. Sounds better than a series becoming NSMB levels of redundant and stake. that and I thought how SE reinvented the ATB in the original XIII was actually great.

that being said, I never really wanted a sequel to FFXIII, let alone 2, since really the battle system was really the only thing FFXIII had going for it in the gameplay department. I can kind of understand why they made a second game, what with FFXIII selling incredibly well between both the PS3 and 360 and being well-received by critics, though I do question them going as far as making a third game. They probably should have noticed the loss of interest in FFXIII-2, since if I recall correctly that game sold much worse in comparison, though maybe I'm wrong.

#37 Posted by blamix99 (2551 posts) -

Just finished lightning returns last week, the entire game is just like a side quest of previous final fantasy games. Hopefully we'll get back on track with FFXV. Gonna pick up bravely default when im done with dark souls 2

#38 Edited by widdowson91 (1238 posts) -

Having played both games I can safely say the better one has sold more. Bravely Default has scratched a Final Fantasy itch that none of the recent games main series games have. It's just a blast.

#39 Edited by yokofox33 (30266 posts) -

As it should be. Bravely Default is actually good.

#40 Posted by Gue1 (11175 posts) -

@Sphire said:

Lightning Returns has a pretty damn good combat system. Shit story, but it's the only place I'll get a battle system like it, so I'll take it. At its best, the battle system is just, wow. Too bad people want to just jump on the hate.

I'd have played Bravely Default if could bring myself to play RPGs on handhelds. After Valkyria Chronicles 2, I just felt so underwhelmed by how much is sacrificed in handheld games/RPGs over a console version. What's the point really, just for the story? That's always massively subjective. For instance I'd have gotten 999 too, but after seeing a mate play it, I couldn't care less about that series now.

if all you care about is combat then play any Grandia or Shadow Hearts games. Both series have combat that is light years ahead of that shit and in overall the games are much better JRPG's too.

#41 Posted by nintendoboy16 (27884 posts) -

@Gargus said:

And call of duty outsells them both. See I can pick a random game and play that game also.

But really, it doesn't matter.

Your point?

#43 Edited by Crossel777 (5712 posts) -

The entire FFXIII series was just one big cluster fuck of poorly made JRPGs. Hopefully FFXV can redeem the FF franchise again but I doubt it. It looks kind of boring in all honesty.

#44 Edited by da_illest101 (7667 posts) -

I have no doubt that bravely default is a better made game, but I would rather play LR than bd. I cannot stand chibi characters and turned based is boring to me. I could handle turn based when I was younger, now it puts me to sleep. With that said I doubt I will ever play LR, I'll only play it if it's free on ps+, I wouldn't even spend $10 for it

#45 Posted by finalfantasy94 (26853 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

@silversix_ said:

If art style wasn't as mediocre i'd buy a 3ds to play BD. I really hate it when they're forcing you to play as a loli...

The artstyle is beautiful! It evokes Final Fantasy IX.

BD character modles are freaking horrible. One of the reasons I stood away from it. Anywho I bought LR instead of BD.IM having a good time.

#46 Edited by fend_oblivion (6209 posts) -

@charizard1605 said:

Lightning Returns is a mainline Final Fantasy game, with all the power of the brand, which is on multiple platforms, got a whole lot more advertising, and has shiny graphics and new gameplay systems and shit.

Maybe this will finally show Square Enix that what we want isn't more Lightning crap or bullshit re-invention of the series, but just the same old old school Final Fantasy games that made the brand so big in the first place.

SOURCE

Exactly.

Fuck Lightning. A boob job and a dress-up system isn't gonna make this unappealing and boring character any better.

#47 Posted by freedomfreak (42877 posts) -

I'll pick up Lightning Returns when it's cheaper.

BD is cool.

#48 Posted by silversix_ (15799 posts) -

This is as bad looking as it gets, almost creepy, actually it is creepy...

#49 Posted by finalstar2007 (25842 posts) -

Wait what? is this mainly in the US? because according to NPD lighting Returns was #8 in the top chart while Bravely default was #10 so how on earth does that mean a number 10 beats number 8 again? if bravely default did 200K then Lighting returns did much higher than that.

im a little lost its either TC got too excited or didnt see the NPD top 10 yet

but yes 200k in a month is pretty nice i hope we seen it coming console wise but i'll wait till it gets cheaper.

#50 Edited by Seabas989 (10888 posts) -

So far BD is great. Like a continuation of FFV.

lol at Lightning Returns.