Edit: due to some people being slow in the head I edited this post accordingly, I want to explain a little more about why this is related to system wars. First, the Blu-ray player is in the PS3 guts, therefore it has Blu-blood molecules*AHEM*. Sorry that was a joke, but what I really wanted to say is that this could have somewhat of a positive effect on the PS3 sales. Because if the HD-DVD goes down the drain then that $200 dollar add on for the 360 would piss a lot of people, fanboys would run rampant, and wars will erupt. I don't know how much the Blu-ray add on will be, but we can imagine how much pissed the people who bought the other one would.
i dont know why everyone thinks this is ms vs sony with either of these formats!?
it has nothing to do with either.
daveg1
Sony spearheaded development on blu-ray and sits on the blu-ray board of directors. But you're right that this has little to do with Microsoft -- it's Sony vs. Toshiba. The only detrimental effect it could have on MS is if the potential victory for blu-ray will have a positive effect on PS3 sales.
i dont know why everyone thinks this is ms vs sony with either of these formats!?
it has nothing to do with either.
crude_darkness
It is Sony VS Microsoft. Just imagine what will happen to Microsoft's credibility if they offered an external Blu-ray player. it has nothing to do wit ms vs sony. blu-ray is compatible with vista is it not?
i dont know why everyone thinks this is ms vs sony with either of these formats!?
it has nothing to do with either.
crude_darkness
It is Sony VS Microsoft. Just imagine what will happen to Microsoft's credibility if they offered an external Blu-ray player. Yeah, that would be funny. I'm a Blu-ray supporter, so this is more good news :).
i dont know why everyone thinks this is ms vs sony with either of these formats!?
it has nothing to do with either.
fuzzysquash
Sony spearheaded development on blu-ray and sits on the blu-ray board of directors. But you're right that this has little to do with Microsoft -- it's Sony vs. Toshiba. The only detrimental effect it could have on MS is if the potential victory for blu-ray will have a positive effect on PS3 sales. once " if" blu-ray becomes mainstream the the ps3 as a player will be a very small amount of players in the market.
Now, is this Cow's newest attempt at gaining credibility for the PS3. To equate a gaming machine with watching movies on?
Soon they will be grasping at how sooo much more important it is to have 4 USB ports to 3 USB ports.
I guess fanboys will always be fanboys.
The PS3 will survive, and will have fun games to play, and will sell modestly well. But this HD-DVD vs BluRay thing is getting quite old. Yes, BluRay winning the format war will help sales of the PS3, we all know that and hear it a couple time a day in SW. We get it already.
i dont know why everyone thinks this is ms vs sony with either of these formats!?
it has nothing to do with either.
crude_darkness
It is Sony VS Microsoft. Just imagine what will happen to Microsoft's credibility if they offered an external Blu-ray player.
[QUOTE="daveg1"]
i dont know why everyone thinks this is ms vs sony with either of these formats!?
it has nothing to do with either.
crude_darkness
It is Sony VS Microsoft. Just imagine what will happen to Microsoft's credibility if they offered an external Blu-ray player. Not much really. They have nothing to do with the format war though they side with HDDVD at this moment. Only Sony can lose face as well its there business in blu-ray. I expect this format war will be very close. Blu-Ray could win by hardcore people supporting it and casuals not even involved. Usually the winners are the ones converting the casuals. I expected HDDVD to attract the casuals but looking at it closely I cant see casuals buying into HD(formats) for another 3-8 years. And by then Blu-Ray may have gathered word of mouth, film studio's, pc/console support and more retail support due to early hardcore adopters. It's on a knife edge for both formats. Truth be told more and more houses are getting hard-drives to record TV/Cable/Sky and soon that will be movies. But how soon...
[QUOTE="crude_darkness"] It is Sony VS Microsoft. First, Microsoft is just backing it up with their HD-DVD add-on. Second, there are over 300 Blu-ray movies announced for February ? http://www.hdtvuk.tv/2007/01/ces_2007_bluray.html
[QUOTE="crude_darkness"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]This is a GAMESforum. Try Filmspot.AhmedRazavi
last time I checked this was called "system wars".
yes exactly, system wars...not format wars
Ps3 Blu-ray PLAYER is a system and Xbox360 HD-DVD PLAYER is a system. I think the key word is PLAYER, which means we're talking about systems and not formats.
Ps3 Blu-ray PLAYER is a system and Xbox360 HD-DVD PLAYER is a system. I think the key word is PLAYER, which means we're talking about systems and not formats.crude_darkness
GAME SYSTEMS! not movie systems
We also don't discuss management systems, voting systems etc etc
[QUOTE="crude_darkness"]Ps3 Blu-ray PLAYER is a system and Xbox360 HD-DVD PLAYER is a system. I think the key word is PLAYER, which means we're talking about systems and not formats.cakeorrdeath
GAME SYSTEMS! not movie systems
We also don't discuss management systems, voting systems etc etc *first post edited*
In 2012 or whenever my local video store has replaced all it's DVD movies with whatever wins the format war and I'm forced to buy I player for them I might care.
i dont know why everyone thinks this is ms vs sony with either of these formats!?
it has nothing to do with either.
daveg1
Sony spearheaded development on blu-ray and sits on the blu-ray board of directors. But you're right that this has little to do with Microsoft -- it's Sony vs. Toshiba. The only detrimental effect it could have on MS is if the potential victory for blu-ray will have a positive effect on PS3 sales. once " if" blu-ray becomes mainstream the the ps3 as a player will be a very small amount of players in the market. I'll take Michael Pachter's hypothesis over yours.
Analysts have for sometime been saying Blu-ray will win this format war so this post doesn't surprise me in the least. The critics were quick to pass judgement on Sony when full details of PS3 were revealed, siting it as a "big risk" strategy. Of course the flip side to that was; if the risk paid off then the rewards would be grand. It's still too early to make any conclusions but as a long term strategy it's beginning to look increasingly like Sony's hardware may have been better put together.
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